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Old August 1st, 2013, 10:44 PM   #1151 (permalink)
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This phone is perfectly fine and capable. It comes down to price. Look at the S4, One, Ultra, G2, iPhone and any another new phone to come out and the specs they have and what the market puts the price of the phone at because of those specs. Now put the X next to those and they want to charge nearly the same price. Not in my book. I'd pay $400, tops, for the X. I'm sure someone can find a flaw in my logic but it's my opinion and I'm sticking to it
To me it's an S3 competitor, only a year late and $100 too expensive...

Now that I think about it, I wouldn't be surprised if that is actually what it was supposed to be but got put on hold while Google was trying to decide what to do with Motorola. Update the processor and release it a year late. Weren't the X phone rumors swirling about the same time as the S3 was rolling out, or was it just after it was released? It had to be in that timeframe because that was the last time I was researching phones...

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I don't remember hearing about this phone last year.

I'm not sure if they were joking but while watching The Verge earlier today one guy mentioned that Motorola was asked why the X is coming out the same time as the Ultra(s)? They're response was basically... because they happened to get done at about the same time.
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To me it's an S3 competitor, only a year late and $100 too expensive...

Now that I think about it, I wouldn't be surprised if that is actually what it was supposed to be but got put on hold while Google was trying to decide what to do with Motorola. Update the processor and release it a year late. Weren't the X phone rumors swirling about the same time as the S3 was rolling out, or was it just after it was released? It had to be in that timeframe because that was the last time I was researching phones...
Motorola's pipeline was full with no new designs allowed for nearly 18 months after the Google acquisition.

This is much like an SGS3 except for the superior processor, superior screen, superior camera, and without a removable battery or sd card.
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No one should be disappointed with the specs. We have known it for a while but the price is the problem plus the exclusives.

Sure apple charges for a premium but they can because they are the only ones making anything iOS related so if you want it you ha d to pay their price.

There are a ton if android oems and they are equally priced and good great experiences and are a lot better specd.

I would sound like a sheep to be happy about going with the x when there are better alternatives for the price.

My problem is why but this over a gs4, htc one, g2? The prices are the same, they are great experiences and are upgrades in most departments.

I really want the x but I'm not sure how anyone could justify the price
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Device manufacturers must be running scared. Every new phone that comes out only elicits groans and complaints nowadays

I firmly believe that we have hit the plateau with smartphones
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No one should be disappointed with the specs. We have known it for a while but the price is the problem plus the exclusives.

Sure apple charges for a premium but they can because they are the only ones making anything iOS related so if you want it you ha d to pay their price.

There are a ton if android oems and they are equally priced and good great experiences and are a lot better specd.

I would sound like a sheep to be happy about going with the x when there are better alternatives for the price.

My problem is why but this over a gs4, htc one, g2? The prices are the same, they are great experiences and are upgrades in most departments.

I really want the x but I'm not sure how anyone could justify the price

What I did was this...I watched every single you tube vid I could find about the X earlier this evening...And I have to say Pocket now's Michael Fisher said it best, this is a great phone...It's just really not for any of us (the geeks) And I gotta say I agree! Yes it's cool, yes it looks comfortable to hold and use, and yes it looks like it's made fairly well.

But I just can't justify spending upwards of $600 for a phone like the X, and from what's being reported that $600ish price tag looks to be real folks.

So I did the only logical thing I could...I ordered a GE GS4 from the Play Store. It's not that I think the S4 is a magical phone, but I feel like If I'm going to spend that dough I want a high range phone with some real kick ass specs. For me the S4 looks to be that phone at the moment. I'm just a little bit more concerned with taking great pics and running a totally clean version of android on a real speedy device then having a custom phrase appear when I boot my phone up.

Also does anyone see the creepiness in a phone that is always listening. How long until moto begins working with the FBI to listen in on all the owners of the X 24/7...creeeeeeeeepy!
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What I did was this...I watched every single you tube vid I could find about the X earlier this evening...And I have to say Pocket now's Michael Fisher said it best, this is a great phone...It's just really not for any of us (the geeks) And I gotta say I agree! Yes it's cool, yes it looks comfortable to hold and use, and yes it looks like it's made fairly well.

But I just can't justify spending upwards of $600 for a phone like the X, and from what's being reported that $600ish price tag looks to be real folks.

So I did the only logical thing I could...I ordered a GE GS4 from the Play Store. It's not that I think the S4 is a magical phone, but I feel like If I'm going to spend that dough I want a high range phone with some real kick ass specs. For me the S4 looks to be that phone at the moment. I'm just a little bit more concerned with taking great pics and running a totally clean version of android on a real speedy device then having a custom phrase appear when I boot my phone up.

Also does anyone see the creepiness in a phone that is always listening. How long until moto begins working with the FBI to listen in on all the owners of the X 24/7...creeeeeeeeepy!
I am not worried about the Nsa, I am surfing for a new device in my price range and nothing gives me that feeling the moto x gives gave. I am thinking of taking the plunge and jumping on t-mobile with it pay it off and return to my metro pcs with it in hand. its like i devoted so much time i'm not ready to discard it. I still want her lol
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Your phone is constantly listening for carrier and wifi and Bluetooth signals, button presses and internal process-to-process messages.

It's listening to everyone and everything else and the NSA is listening to all of that.

Isn't it about time that we get our turn?
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What I did was this...I watched every single you tube vid I could find about the X earlier this evening...And I have to say Pocket now's Michael Fisher said it best, this is a great phone...It's just really not for any of us (the geeks) And I gotta say I agree! Yes it's cool, yes it looks comfortable to hold and use, and yes it looks like it's made fairly well.

But I just can't justify spending upwards of $600 for a phone like the X, and from what's being reported that $600ish price tag looks to be real folks.

So I did the only logical thing I could...I ordered a GE GS4 from the Play Store. It's not that I think the S4 is a magical phone, but I feel like If I'm going to spend that dough I want a high range phone with some real kick ass specs. For me the S4 looks to be that phone at the moment. I'm just a little bit more concerned with taking great pics and running a totally clean version of android on a real speedy device then having a custom phrase appear when I boot my phone up.

Also does anyone see the creepiness in a phone that is always listening. How long until moto begins working with the FBI to listen in on all the owners of the X 24/7...creeeeeeeeepy!

Gota agree with that last part, the always on thing is just a little to invasive for me. I know in the grand scheme of things its probably no more invasive then our phones already are (we just don't fully realize it yet). And I know that sounds all tin foil hat sounding but with the recent NSA leaks it really would not surprise me.

the kicker is I really love the formfactor of the Moto X. 4.7" is ideal to me and the really small bezels is just perfect. Sure i can get superior specs in the 5" phones for the same money but thats just pushing the uncomfortable size barrier for me.
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Gota agree with that last part, the always on thing is just a little to invasive for me. I know in the grand scheme of things its probably no more invasive then our phones already are (we just don't fully realize it yet). And I know that sounds all tin foil hat sounding but with the recent NSA leaks it really would not surprise me.

the kicker is I really love the formfactor of the Moto X. 4.7" is ideal to me and the really small bezels is just perfect. Sure i can get superior specs in the 5" phones for the same money but thats just pushing the uncomfortable size barrier for me.
Size wise...Absolutely! It's on the money for a lot of people as far as one handed operation. I got pretty big paws but the S4 and ONE are as far as I'll go these days. The S4 is basically the same size as the S3 (just thinner) and to me that phone was fine. The ONE was ok IMO, after some time the power button placement and weight got a little annoying. But if I had to choose just on size I'd go with the X and it's small bezels. To this day my favorite sized phone out of all the god knows how many phones I've owned is still the Galaxy Nexus! Loved the size and feel of that phone. However Samsung did well IMO with making a 5 inch screen seem very user friendly.
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One last thing why was there still not a release date announced? Learn that from apple.
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To me, if you took away all the hype I don't think many of us would give this phone a second look. It's a sort of mid range moto phone with a 500 million dollar advertising budget and Google's backing. It just doesn't have enough to get me to consider it over the gs4 or the HTC one, let alone what will be coming out in the next few months. Should've been $100 on contract.
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1st thing I addressed after getting on here when news of the event broke!

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This end of the month, beginning of the next month after the following season is so old already.
I'm hoping that tomorrow more information will be out but I doubt it.
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Hardware customized phones would be nightmare. Every possible combination would have to go through the FCC. That would cost A LOT of money that would be passed on to the consumer and your next phone would cost a few bucks more. And by a few I mean a lot.
But with the GS4 did they have to send the 16, 32, and 64GB models through the FCC? Each has a different piece of hardware. What would be so different if each had a different screen, but the same radio hardware? Different processor?
Maybe I just don't understand why can't they just get the radio hardware cleared by the FCC, and then have that radio in multiple versions of the same phone.
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Maybe I just don't understand why can't they just get the radio hardware cleared by the FCC, and then have that radio in multiple versions of the same phone.
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I have to admit that a locked bootloader didn't stop me from buying the Galaxy Nexus. I had every intention of NOT rooting and ROMming it, but rather just being a blissful user. That is, until 6 months had passed, so had updates, and I wasn't blissful anymore.

By then a wonderful little tool had come out called Wug's Galaxy Nexus Toolkit. It unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. And I've been a blissful rooter/ROMmer ever since.

So what's not to say that there won't be a toolkit for the Moto X in a few months?
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I won't say I'm disappointed in the X. Heck, that would be unfair. I'm a bit put off by the price. I find myself wondering based on the praise it is receiving relative to slightly below cutting edge specs if they have created a device where the whole is better than the sum of the parts.

Ah, well. I think I have made up my mind. I have known that I will be paying full price for my next phone for the protection of my unlimited data. At this point, my GNex is still serving it purpose, and I'm just getting a tech itch. I'll grab an N72 now and wait until the LTE only (no CDMA) phones are released and see what's available unless something wows me before then.

It's nice not needing a phone or stressing about using my upgrade. I'm sitting in the catbird seat.
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Size for me on this phone is perfect. I would like to see some benchmarks but as my daily driver this phone should be fine. Would rather have had 1080P, but if this new Moto chip structure is effective I may still try it. Camera performance is important to me as well as I have two young boys. I do fine with the HTC One and iPhone cameras so hopefully this is okay. Moto has disappointed me here in the past so hopefully they have learned.
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It's a simple formula -

The CPU cores are the same as those found in the SGS4 (Snapdragon version) or HTC One. Those are superior to the Nexus 4 cores.

The GPU core is the same as the Nexus 4, SGS4 and One - and they're claiming more of them.

An rgb 720p screen has less than half the pixels to update compared to an rgb 1080p screen, and less processing to do than a Pentile 1080p screen.

That adds up to faster performance for the vast majority of things that people care about.

You lose 2 cores, but you also lose half of the screen processing, and lose double the power consumption and extra heat when the phone is running at full blast.

That's why this phone is going to win and that's why people are already saying that it performs well.

It's not a high end quad driving a 1080p display so we can't call it a top end phone.

But if the phone runs faster than the user and you don't see pixilated screens, then those things become theoretical differences to the user, not ones you care about.

In 2010 during our earlier processor arguments, I once said that I didn't care if the core was a hamster in a cage so long as it performed.

I still feel that exact same way.

PS - everyone tells me that the iPhone runs quickly because the software is optimized. Umm, OK. Ever notice how few pixels iPhones have traditionally had? And still do? They've yet to make a high def screen on a phone. They go for a top end GPU driving fewer pixels.
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In space no one can hear ice cream.
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Motorola's pipeline was full with no new designs allowed for nearly 18 months after the Google acquisition.

This is much like an SGS3 except for the superior processor, superior screen, superior camera and more sensors, without a removable battery or sd card.
What extra sensors does it have over the S3? Temp? no. Barometric? no. Gyro? no. Accelerometer? no... Not arguing the processor or screen, but wouldn't necessarily include lack of removable battery and SD card as pluses either.

I could be way off on when the first rumors of an "X phone" showed up tough. I might be recalling the Moto Fighter though... Seems like the older I get, the harder it is to differentiate last week from last year!
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I try to correct science myths whenever I can but I feel this requires study.
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Did I just read that 32GB is part of the customization so AT&T is the only carrier selling it until their exclusivity runs out? Seriously? Ridiculous.

And no photosphere. Whaaaat?
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Did I just read that 32GB is part of the customization so AT&T is the only carrier selling it until their exclusivity runs out? Seriously? Ridiculous.
I read that as well in one article. I'm hoping that's a fluke.
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What extra sensors does it have over the S3? Temp? no. Barometric? no. Gyro? no. Accelerometer? no... Not arguing the processor or screen, but wouldn't necessarily include lack of removable battery and SD card as pluses either.

I could be way off on when the first rumors of an "X phone" showed up tough. I might be recalling the Moto Fighter though... Seems like the older I get, the harder it is to differentiate last week from last year!
No kidding? Cool, I'll go edit that post, I thought those sensors came with the SGS4, many thanks!

Talk about not differentiating!

Fixed battery and no sd card slot, I think most of us generally hate that, but I see those as hardware usability features rather than what I'm (arbitrarily) calling performance features.

If you like/need to truck around dozens of GBs of data or media, or if you live/work in a reception fringe area guaranteed to eat batteries (plural) per day, yeah, this type of phone is all wrong for you, couldn't agree more, no matter what the processor or screen is about.
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Fair enough. The metaphor is weak but the consumption idea behind it was valid.

What would you recommend in its place?

How about, the battery is half charged?
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Fair enough. The metaphor is weak but the consumption idea behind it was valid.

What would you recommend in its place?

How about, the battery is half charged?
Nothing I just want to eat ice cream in space
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It really comes down to this. One of the reviewers said it best, this is the android I phone. This is a phone for the masses. It's comfortable, "right size", powerful enough for the lions share of tasks, it feels good, it's built good, it will function smoothly and flawlessly, it does neat things that the average person will appreciate (i.e. listen and respond to your personal assistant type needs), it's customizable, it's sexy, it will be a status sensation when you pull it out of your pocket in Starbucks. This is what it was designed for and built for.

I for one still really love the phone, and I will for some time grapple with if I should or shouldn't pay what I consider to be OUTRAGEOUS prices for it. That said for a moment consider this.

Iphone has NEVER been the spec leader in mobile phones, yet it was not until very recently it was overtaken by an android device for the phone in most consumers pockets. And now it's not one android phone but a fragmented bunch of android phones that out number the Iphone. if you were talking worldwide which phone maker has it's phone it's OS in peoples pocket the most, I think it's still apple. That said, Moto went to the drawing board to make a cross platform phone that worked for and spoke to the market. Not a small group of users but the greatest majority of users.

I think they did that well. And the pricing will not scare off the yuppies and designer kids they are hoping to win over.

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It really comes down to this. One of the reviewers said it best, this is the android I phone. This is a phone for the masses. It's comfortable, "right size", powerful enough for the lions share of tasks, it feels good, it's built good, it will function smoothly and flawlessly, it does neat things that the average person will appreciate (i.e. listen and respond to your personal assistant type needs), it's customizable, it's sexy, it will be a status sensation when you pull it out of your pocket in Starbucks. This is what it was designed for and built for.

I for one still really love the phone, and I will for some time grapple with if I should or shouldn't pay what I consider to be OUTRAGEOUS prices for it. That said for a moment consider this.

Iphone has NEVER been the spec leader in mobile phones, yet it was not until very recently it was overtaken by an android device for the phone in most consumers pockets. And now it's not one android phone but a fragmented bunch of android phones that out number the Iphone. if you were talking worldwide which phone maker has it's phone it's OS in peoples pocket the most, I think it's still apple. That said, Moto went to the drawing board to make a cross platform phone that worked for and spoke to the market. Not a small group of users but the greatest majority of users.

I think they did that well. And the pricing will not scare off the yuppies and designer kids they are hoping to win over.

Just my 2 cents

As far as the iphone...nobody is tackling apple anytime soon! ios is just way to strong with the masses and the Apple Eco system is just to huge and used by way to many people these days to even entertain Moto making a run at them or the X being mentioned in the same conversation as Apple.

This new android phone is an iphone killer or equal, that statement has been said so many times the last how many years? To many!

I respectfully disagree that this phone will be looked at as an iphone alternative, iphone customers won't entertain this phone IMO.

I'm an Android enthusiast, but I'm also an iphone user and can tell you right now, I won't be handing in my iphone for an X anytime soon. Why you ask? As far as the iphone goes, to me it's a great size, has one of the best cameras on a phone that I've ever used, the battery is awesome, the screen is fantastic in any light, and the one thing that so many people fail to realize....The Eco system is just huge, absolutely huge! Yes the hype is real about the iphone, and I know some say the specs are average. But the Eco system for me is the killer, and it's the same tune I'm singing that other iphone users will echo when faced between the X or the iphone... To me there's no contest between the two.

The fact is that moto went outside the box with customization and I will admit that it's a cool idea. But where they missed the boat is in the price ring. $199 is just nuts for this phone when honestly you can get a ONE, a GS4, or yes an iphone 5! This phone should have been designed to go after the no contract people, it should have been priced extremely aggressively at say $299-$399 off contract or $99 on contract with every major carrier. $199 on contract, and $600ish off contract is totally way out of whack for a phone of this nature with its specs.

And I know nobody is saying it, but the timing is terrible! The iphone 5S or 6 is right around the corner! This phone should have been announced in the spring and released in say late May. Releasing it in say early Sept is just not a smart move by moto IMO...just my 2 cents!
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No no no no no.

Sean, you've always said that Android phones should announce and release like Apple.

Announcing in spring and releasing later in May?

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you say that you already hated that it was announced yesterday for release later this month or September?

Am I missing something here bud?

And I've used iPhones, and I'm not going with the idea that the ecosystem is superior.

http://droid-den.com/editorial/breaking-the-ecosystem-shackles-the-power-of-defaults-and-intents-in-android-2/

And worldwide, there are more Androids in people's pockets than iPhones, have been for some time.
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As far as the iphone...nobody is tackling apple anytime soon! ios is just way to strong with the masses and the Apple Eco system is just to huge and used by way to many people these days to even entertain Moto making a run at them or the X being mentioned in the same conversation as Apple.

This new android phone is an iphone killer or equal, that statement has been said so many times the last how many years? To many!

I respectfully disagree that this phone will be looked at as an iphone alternative, iphone customers won't entertain this phone IMO.

I'm an Android enthusiast, but I'm also an iphone user and can tell you right now, I won't be handing in my iphone for an X anytime soon. Why you ask? As far as the iphone goes, to me it's a great size, has one of the best cameras on a phone that I've ever used, the battery is awesome, the screen is fantastic in any light, and the one thing that so many people fail to realize....The Eco system is just huge, absolutely huge! Yes the hype is real about the iphone, and I know some say the specs are average. But the Eco system for me is the killer, and it's the same tune I'm singing that other iphone users will echo when faced between the X or the iphone... To me there's no contest between the two.

The fact is that moto went outside the box with customization and I will admit that it's a cool idea. But where they missed the boat is in the price ring. $199 is just nuts for this phone when honestly you can get a ONE, a GS4, or yes an iphone 5! This phone should have been designed to go after the no contract people, it should have been priced extremely aggressively at say $299-$399 off contract or $99 on contract with every major carrier. $199 on contract, and $600ish off contract is totally way out of whack for a phone of this nature with its specs.

And I know nobody is saying it, but the timing is terrible! The iphone 5S or 6 is right around the corner! This phone should have been announced in the spring and released in say late May. Releasing it in say early Sept is just not a smart move by moto IMO...just my 2 cents!

I think Apple has the same publicist as the Marines. Mid grade tech will beat high end tech any day with the right PR campaign.
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As far as the iphone...nobody is tackling apple anytime soon! ios is just way to strong with the masses and the Apple Eco system is just to huge and used by way to many people these days to even entertain Moto making a run at them or the X being mentioned in the same conversation as Apple.

This new android phone is an iphone killer or equal, that statement has been said so many times the last how many years? To many!

I respectfully disagree that this phone will be looked at as an iphone alternative, iphone customers won't entertain this phone IMO.

I'm an Android enthusiast, but I'm also an iphone user and can tell you right now, I won't be handing in my iphone for an X anytime soon. Why you ask? As far as the iphone goes, to me it's a great size, has one of the best cameras on a phone that I've ever used, the battery is awesome, the screen is fantastic in any light, and the one thing that so many people fail to realize....The Eco system is just huge, absolutely huge! Yes the hype is real about the iphone, and I know some say the specs are average. But the Eco system for me is the killer, and it's the same tune I'm singing that other iphone users will echo when faced between the X or the iphone... To me there's no contest between the two.

The fact is that moto went outside the box with customization and I will admit that it's a cool idea. But where they missed the boat is in the price ring. $199 is just nuts for this phone when honestly you can get a ONE, a GS4, or yes an iphone 5! This phone should have been designed to go after the no contract people, it should have been priced extremely aggressively at say $299-$399 off contract or $99 on contract with every major carrier. $199 on contract, and $600ish off contract is totally way out of whack for a phone of this nature with its specs.

And I know nobody is saying it, but the timing is terrible! The iphone 5S or 6 is right around the corner! This phone should have been announced in the spring and released in say late May. Releasing it in say early Sept is just not a smart move by moto IMO...just my 2 cents!

I don't disagree with most of this, because an apple fanboy is an apple fan boy. My dearest best friend is exactly what I just described, a die hard apple fanboy. That said, there are new consumers born every minute, there are new consumers coming of age every minute and this is a bold trek outside the preexisting perimeters. And it will not go unnoticed.

And I am glad you mentioned the "ecosystem" of fruit. Anyone else notice all the accessories that were announced and that there's more to come?

Can you say .... Motosystem?
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I'm not that bright today.

Did you just say that the Marines are mid grade backed by PR?
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I'm currently on a galaxy nexus and anxiously waiting to upgrade to this or the S4. My main usage is tethering, internet browsing, and pictures. The S4 does that all great but is a little too big for me. I read yesterday that the Moto X checks to see if tethering is enabled on your account. Can the Moto X tether without having to pay an extra fee? (I'm on Verizon with unlimited data). Thanks.
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Did you just say that the Marines are mid grade backed by PR?
No, just very good PR. I was enlisted for five years. A lot of things I didn't agree with. For example how can you be in Drill Instructor School and fall out of group runs?
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The cost throws me off a little. I was ready to order yesterday if I could get a 32 GB version for $399 or under. I will have more trouble paying $649 at this point without waiting for the next Nexus.

I will say this. I am someone who always ends up back with an iPhone as my daily phone simply because the size works for me and "it just works." It is similar to what Blackberry used to be for me. That being said, I would love for my "it just works" phone to be an Android device. Calendar widgets, customizations make it a better business device in my opinion. That is what I am hoping this device is.

I am a tech whore like the rest of us. I have probably owned 10 Android phones in the last 2 years. I love trying them and tinkering, but when I need my main phone to be a communication device I kept going back to Apple. If off-contract this phone is competitively priced, I will pick it up immediately. I will have trouble buying it at the same price as the GS4 Google Edition.

Now if they could just make a Moto X+ I would be all in.
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So I wonder how the carriers are going to handle warranty claims for customized phones.
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So I wonder how the carriers are going to handle warranty claims for customized phones.
I've been wondering this all along, and having a bit of a giggle over it
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No no no no no.

Sean, you've always said that Android phones should announce and release like Apple.

Announcing in spring and releasing later in May?

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you say that you already hated that it was announced yesterday for release later this month or September?

Am I missing something here bud?

And I've used iPhones, and I'm not going with the idea that the ecosystem is superior.

Droid Den Breaking the Ecosystem Shackles: The Power of Defaults and Intents in Android

And worldwide, there are more Androids in people's pockets than iPhones, have been for some time.
What I was saying is that Android as a whole has a big issue with giving dates when a phone is released...has for some time now as we all know and agree with. So going by Androids past releases, I would have thought a Spring timeline would have been more in they're favor.

As far as my personal opinion, I would say announcing this phone on May 1st and then setting a date for release 2 weeks later would have been superb. But we all know that Android phones don't get announced with release dates all that often...lol!

Ok so now back to the actual announcement happening Aug 1st...lol

You know me early...I'm a fast grabber! IMO this thing should have went up for presale this morning for on contract buyers, all cylinders should have been fired up and this thing should be in the play store within a week off contract. Announce it yesterday and set close dates that are in stone at the announcement. They want to go after Apple...go ahead, announce it, start the commercials that day, have CNN, Fox News, etc all talking about the announcement, and begin the hype machine with a date set in stone.

However I'd still say doing it at this time of the year for a mid range phone priced at $199 on contract is not to smart...again just my opinion.

Remember I asked you a week ago your opinion on the X vs the GE GS4... You gave me your pros and cons...and I decided to wait it out and see what the X had in store for us. Was I let down, yea a little bit! Would I have ordered it today if it was available, most likely no! And that's because I'm not paying $600 somewhat dollars for a mid range phone that's basically perceived as a mid range phone by our whole community. I will however pay $649 for a stock GS4 because I like the specs, I like what our community has said about the phone and I know I'm getting my money's worth. But that's just my tale!
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No no no no no.

Sean, you've always said that Android phones should announce and release like Apple.

Announcing in spring and releasing later in May?

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you say that you already hated that it was announced yesterday for release later this month or September?

Am I missing something here bud?

And I've used iPhones, and I'm not going with the idea that the ecosystem is superior.

Droid Den Breaking the Ecosystem Shackles: The Power of Defaults and Intents in Android

And worldwide, there are more Androids in people's pockets than iPhones, have been for some time.
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I don't disagree with most of this, because an apple fanboy is an apple fan boy. My dearest best friend is exactly what I just described, a die hard apple fanboy. That said, there are new consumers born every minute, there are new consumers coming of age every minute and this is a bold trek outside the preexisting perimeters. And it will not go unnoticed.

And I am glad you mentioned the "ecosystem" of fruit. Anyone else notice all the accessories that were announced and that there's more to come?

Can you say .... Motosystem?
Lol.. No fan boy here...just a major tech geek!

As for the moto system you mention...yea we'll see! I like the headphones and stuff, and I think the customization thing is cool..listen man I'm hearing it and I get it...this is coming from a guy who doesn't buy sneakers in a store anymore for sometime now. Basically all my Nikes come from Nike ID and are made by me. Do I mind paying more for a sneaker with my initials on them that we're designed by me? Nope...I'm all for customization!
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Something just hit me.

The Moto Veep of Engineering said they did a lot to the Linux and Dalvik side - yesterday I criticized that because I couldn't make sense of what he said that wasn't already standard Android.

If they've extended the software so that GPU acceleration is forced everywhere - and if this is truly unique compared to other Snapdragons as a quad of Adreno 320s - then this thing could very well be a screaming speed demon.

Or not.

But now I wonder.

Not disagreeing with anyone on the price, I've long said retail on these things is far too high - but now I really want to see one running.
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Morning Treb! Good to see that Droid Life has been following here.

j/k but c'mon, I couldn't resist.
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Finally made official via press release, the device formerly known as the "X Phone" is now formally the Motorola Moto X. The Moto X is a 4.7-inch 720p handset that utilizes Motorola's X8 processing engine. The processor is a highly op... Read More



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