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Old August 27th, 2013, 11:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Old August 28th, 2013, 08:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I honestly cannot tell much of a difference, it looks as if the Moto X has a better camera in well lit situations.

what about darker areas?
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Old August 28th, 2013, 02:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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This was with the stock camera app, pretty clear to me that the Moto X has more post-processing/noise reduction going on. GNex probably has a little more detail but at the cost of a lot of noise. These were both taken indoors, but in a fairly well-lit building.
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So my wife just got her custom moto x in and there is a big difference when comparing the cameras or software at least. I read this on someone's review too.

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So my wife just got her custom moto x in and there is a big difference when comparing the cameras or software at least. I read this on someone's review too.

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the stock x colors seem more "redish"
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So what did wife customize? You would think a different color back plate would have no bearing at all on the camera's firmware. Maybe hers is a newer build with updated firmware?
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I highly doubt the variation in those shots has anything to do with one being custom and one being off-the-shelf. Most likely just variation in shot to shot. The Moto software doesn't seem to do a great job at getting consistent white balance.

Edit: Just downloaded JB+ and took several shots in low light conditions of several items of different color and finer detail (pennies, nickels, my red swingline stapler, etc) in the same frame. Took several shots with the stock app, then several with the JB+ app with different settings (normal quality, ultra quality, auto ISO, ISO 100, ISO 1600, etc) and noticed no major difference with the exception that the ISO 100 and 1600 shots had noticably different noise levels.

The one thing I have noticed with this camera is it does a MUCH better job with white balance when there is natural lighting as opposed to your standard indoor lighting. Most shots I've taken that rely on indoor lighting have had a red hue to them.
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I highly doubt the variation in those shots has anything to do with one being custom and one being off-the-shelf. Most likely just variation in shot to shot. The Moto software doesn't seem to do a great job at getting consistent white balance.

Edit: Just downloaded JB+ and took several shots in low light conditions of several items of different color and finer detail (pennies, nickels, my red swingline stapler, etc) in the same frame. Took several shots with the stock app, then several with the JB+ app with different settings (normal quality, ultra quality, auto ISO, ISO 100, ISO 1600, etc) and noticed no major difference with the exception that the ISO 100 and 1600 shots had noticably different noise levels.

The one thing I have noticed with this camera is it does a MUCH better job with white balance when there is natural lighting as opposed to your standard indoor lighting. Most shots I've taken that rely on indoor lighting have had a red hue to them.
I have read several reviews talk about how their non custom Moto X have had a more redish-pinkish tint to their photos.

That is exactly how everyone one of my photos look. I really didn't notice it until I took a picture next to hers. My camera software before taking the picture has the same tint to it.

I just think it might have something to do with when maybe they were built, I have a custom X coming for me now, I will post back when I get it.
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My point in recommending Camera JB+ was the high quality option on save to reduce jpeg compression artifacts.

If the basic camera is noisy or otherwise off (things I didn't anticipate from the prerelease hype), I wouldn't expect a difference.

By the way - noted in the I got mine thread that HDR (high dynamic range, usually done with multiple images and then averaged, but can be done with post-processing one image (not true HDR)) is on by default with the stock app.

HDR is fine when it's really needed outdoors, but it's insane to leave it on all of the time - no such thing as a free lunch, HDR adds dynamic range and also adds noise.
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My point in recommending Camera JB+ was the high quality option on save to reduce jpeg compression artifacts.

If the basic camera is noisy or otherwise off (things I didn't anticipate from the prerelease hype), I wouldn't expect a difference.

By the way - noted in the I got mine thread that HDR (high dynamic range, usually done with multiple images and then averaged, but can be done with post-processing one image (not true HDR)) is on by default with the stock app.

HDR is fine when it's really needed outdoors, but it's insane to leave it on all of the time - no such thing as a free lunch, HDR adds dynamic range and also adds noise.
He actually states that "HDR is on auto by default". If this is like my HDMAXX then it detects when there are lowlight conditions and then automatically turns HDR on. A little different than having HDR on all the time.
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My point in recommending Camera JB+ was the high quality option on save to reduce jpeg compression artifacts.

If the basic camera is noisy or otherwise off (things I didn't anticipate from the prerelease hype), I wouldn't expect a difference.

By the way - noted in the I got mine thread that HDR (high dynamic range, usually done with multiple images and then averaged, but can be done with post-processing one image (not true HDR)) is on by default with the stock app.

HDR is fine when it's really needed outdoors, but it's insane to leave it on all of the time - no such thing as a free lunch, HDR adds dynamic range and also adds noise.
Yep. I didn't suspect as much either Earlymon. Just thought I'd give it a go for go-giving-sake. Almost no difference whatsoever. Also, first thing I did when opening the camera app on the first use was turn off HDR. Even trying to get a good HDR shot by post-processing a single RAW file is difficult...trying to do so with a cellphone shot...well, it's crazy. As you said, only time it makes sense is in plenty of daylight.

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He actually states that "HDR is on auto by default". If this is like my HDMAXX then it detects when there are lowlight conditions and then automatically turns HDR on. A little different than having HDR on all the time.
Low lighting is exactly when you do not want HDR. That's why I keep mine off. I want to control when it tries to produce an HDR image.
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He actually states that "HDR is on auto by default". If this is like my HDMAXX then it detects when there are lowlight conditions and then automatically turns HDR on. A little different than having HDR on all the time.
Respectfully, that means that decision processing is on all of the time to begin with, and making a decision that I would never trust to automation.

Your mileage may vary.
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Respectfully, that means that decision processing is on all of the time to begin with, and making a decision that I would never trust to automation.

Your mileage may vary.
Very good point of course. I wouldn't either.

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Low lighting is exactly when you do not want HDR. That's why I keep mine off. I want to control when it tries to produce an HDR image.
I guess I misstated when it was telling me to turn on HDR. I just recently had good luck with this mode. It is when part of the camera view is in shadow while other parts have lots of light. example - My Camaro at sunset. The color of my car was not coming out at all because of how much light was in the background. I turned on HDR (made sure I held the camera steady for a lot longer period of time than normal) and was able to create some amazing pictures that captured the color of my car as well as a bunch of the color in the clouds.
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I guess I misstated when it was telling me to turn on HDR. I just recently had good luck with this mode. It is when part of the camera view is in shadow while other parts have lots of light. example - My Camaro at sunset. The color of my car was not coming out at all because of how much light was in the background. I turned on HDR (made sure I held the camera steady for a lot longer period of time than normal) and was able to create some amazing pictures that captured the color of my car as well as a bunch of the color in the clouds.
That's EXACTLY the situation HDR was made for.
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So what happened to this thread? I wand updates and real world feedback from users of this phone.
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From the looks of the whole Moto X section there isn't much going on anywhere.
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Well it's decision time for me and I have NO evidence of the quality (or potential quality) of the camera on the Moto X. In fact almost all I have heard is negative.

My wife has the HTC ONE and it seems to have a capable camera, I have heard nothing but rave reviews of the camera in the LG G2 ...

All I want is some people with this phone to show me the money let me see some pictures. Work it ladies!
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From the looks of the whole Moto X section there isn't much going on anywhere.

I think they kinda botched the launch with ATT-only motomaker

(and maybe a bit too expensive for something coming just before the N5)
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The rest of these were taken in a pinkish light, so the color is actually OK





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The rest of these were taken in a pinkish light, so the color is actually OK





Android vs Dalek





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After firmware update

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Again, the walls in the shots of the shelf/android are pink and the lights are a sunset mix of Phillips Led pink /orange/red -- so the colors are OK.

You can clearly see moto fixed the white sheen that was overlaying everything. And it seems to have better contrast and more vibrant color now.


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