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Old July 27th, 2012, 05:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Since a new sub-forum was made, I figured I'd start it off with some "official" information. Here's the official Motorola Spec sheet for the MoPhoQ

MOPHOQ SPECIFICATIONS
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ACCESSORY COMPATIBILITY
HEARING AID COMPATIBLE
Rated M3, T3
TEXT TELEPHONE (TTY) COMPATIBILITY
BUSINESS SECURITY & PRODUCTIVITY
BUSINESS READY
MOTOROLA PHOTON Q has Business Ready security, producitivity and connectiviy features that go above and beyond the typical smartphone's. Government-grade encryption protects your email, contacts and calendar, while the VPN keeps you securely plugged into the office when you’re away. Learn how to make your productivity soar with Motorola Business Ready.

3LM-enabled
CALLING
HANDS-FREE SPEAKERPHONE
CALLER ID 1
Ringer ID , Picture ID , On main display
ADVANCED SPEECH RECOGNITION
CALL WAITING
MUTE
SPEED DIAL
VOICE DIALING
CAMERA
MEGAPIXELS
8 MP
DIGITAL ZOOM
FRONT FACING IMAGER
Yes, dual cameras, with front-facing HD web cam plus a high quality 8 MP camera with 1080p video capture on back
FLASH
LED
FOCUS
Automatic
WEB CAM
Yes, 1.3 MP HD web cam
CONNECTIVITY
WI-FI
802.11 b,g,n
BLUETOOTH® TECHNOLOGY 2
Bluetooth® Class 2, Version 4.0 LE+EDR
4G MOBILE HOTSPOT
Be a mobile hot spot for up to 8 other Wi-Fi-enabled devices
CONNECTOR TYPE
Micro USB, micro HDMI
DATA TRANSMISSION RATE 3
USB 2.0 (High Speed, 480 Mbps)
GPS AND LOCATION SERVICES 4
eCompass, Standalone GPS, aGPS (assisted) with Google Maps™, Google Latitude™, Google Maps Street View
HEADSET JACK
3.5 mm
WEB BROWSER
HTML 5 / Android Webkit; Google Chrome
GOOGLE MOBILE SERVICES
Gmail™
Google Calendar™
Google Contact Sync™
Google Latitude™
Google Street View™
Google Maps™ Navigation
Google Talk™
YouTube™
GOOGLE MOBILE SERVICES
Google Play™
Access to hundreds of thousands of books, movies, apps and games in the Google Play store — many of them free.
Google +™
Google Play™ Apps and Games
Google Play™ Books
Google Play™ Movies
Google Play™ Music
Google + Hangout™
INTERFACE
OPERATING SYSTEM
Android 4.0.4 (Ice Cream Sandwich)
QWERTY KEYBOARD
LIGHT-RESPONSIVE DISPLAY
BACKLIGHT
TEXT TO SPEECH
Readout of caller identification , Readout of dialed digits , Readout of new SMS messages , Readout of new email messages , Readout of phone book contacts , Voicemail alerts , Missed / received calls
PINCH TO ZOOM
TOUCH SCREEN
VIRTUAL KEYBOARD
VOICE COMMANDS
CLOCK/ALARM
Google Clock
CALENDAR
MESSAGING
EMAIL 5
Corporate Sync, Gmail, POP3/IMAP (embedded), Push Email
MULTIMEDIA MESSAGING (MMS) 6
TEXT MESSAGING (SMS) 7
INSTANT MESSAGING (IM) 8
Google Talk™, embedded
VOICE MAIL 9
Visual Voice Mail
MUSIC & VIDEO
MUSIC ENABLED 10
Google Play Music
PLAYABLE FORMATS
AAC , AAC+ , H.264 , MIDI , MP3 , MPEG-4 , Real Audio , WAV , WMA v10 , WMV v10
STREAMING MEDIA
Audio , Video , Internet Radio
VIDEO CAPTURE RATE
30 fps
VIDEO PLAYBACK RATE
Yes, 1080p capture and playback at 30 frames per second
VIDEO RESOLUTION
1080p HD rear camera and 720p HD front camera
PHYSICAL
SIZE
66.00mm (x), 126.40mm (y), 13.70mm (z)
DISPLAY SIZE
4.3-inch
WEIGHT
170 grams
DISPLAY TYPE
ColorBoost™ (540x960 ppi) TFT LCD
FORM FACTOR
QWERTY Slider
MATERIALS AND FINISH
UL Environment Platinum Certified
POWER
TALK TIME (CONTINUOUS) 11
Up to 7.5 hrs.
BATTERY TYPE
Embedded 1785 mAh
STANDBY TIME 12
Up to 220 hrs.
SMARTACTIONS™
SMARTACTIONS ENABLED
SMARTACTIONS extends your battery life, automate everyday tasks and make suggestions to improve and personalize your smartphone.
TECHNOLOGY
MEMORY 13
1GB RAM x 8GB ROM
NETWORKS 14
WCDMA 1900/850/2100; CDMA 1900/800; GSM 850/1900/1800/900 LTE 1900, HSDPA 21.1 Mbps (Category 14) HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
PROCESSOR
1.5GHz Dual-Core
ACCELEROMETER
REMOVABLE MEMORY 15
Up to 32 GB MicroSD
SENSORS
Accelerometer, proximity sensor, ambient light sensor

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Old July 27th, 2012, 05:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, good luck to any customer who picks this phone up after you've experienced the superiority of the original MoPho. I expect pure disappointment. Those specs are a step back to 2009. I wonder what the price will be. It better be cheaper than $99 or I doubt that there will be many takers.
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Well, good luck to any customer who picks this phone up after you've experienced the superiority of the original MoPho. I expect pure disappointment. Those specs are a step back to 2009. I wonder what the price will be. It better be cheaper than $99 or I doubt that there will be many takers.
Considering the MoPho started at $199, dropped to $179 and quickly dropped to $99 (after launch), I wouldn't be surprised if a similar situation happens with the MoPhoQ.

If they start it at $99, I think that'd be acceptable, especially considering the Atrix HD's pricing to start (which quickly went down to $49, at Best Buy).
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For a second there, I was hoping that it would work with the current MoPho car dock, but looks like the micro-usb/micro-hdmi ports are at the bottom of the phone, instead of the top. Oh well.

I wonder if they'll disable lapdock connectivity, like the Atrix HD.
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Most worthless device sprint has.. That's why second quarter earnings were at a net loss if 2.4 billion... Nobody uses keyboard phones
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Um... I want a keyboard

BAD!!!!

I have the MoPho now and the only thing I *hate* about the phone is the lack of keyboard. I mean I hate typing with it and can't wait to get a real keyboard back.

I need to get the specs side by side to see how I feel. I got the original for $99 last year and am due for my final yearly upgrade this year. I have a feeling this will be it as I can't think of going to HTC or Samsung after my great experience with the MoPho.
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Um... I want a keyboard

BAD!!!!

I have the MoPho now and the only thing I *hate* about the phone is the lack of keyboard. I mean I hate typing with it and can't wait to get a real keyboard back.

I need to get the specs side by side to see how I feel. I got the original for $99 last year and am due for my final yearly upgrade this year. I have a feeling this will be it as I can't think of going to HTC or Samsung after my great experience with the MoPho.
Just for quick description of differences, according to the measurements, the mopho q is only slightly thicker than the current mopho, although i'd imagine the overall feel will be noticed, as far as thickness. The processor is faster with the 1.5 ghz dual core snapdragon, which has gotten rave reviews from majority of the reviews. Internal storage is downgraded to 8gb from the current 16gb (11+ usable, partitioned as 3gb for apps and 8+ internal)...who knows how the 8gb storage will be partitioned on the mophoq. U'll have the new colorsplash hd display with 720p resolution. The battery is the same, except nn-removable. No more kickstand. Non-removable sim for international use. LTE for the mophoq vs. wimax for current mopho. Those are most of the differences. The recent mopho update added 1080p video capture, so that factoid on the specs isn't an "upgrade." I think this will be the most high-powered of the physical qwerty phones offered.
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For a second there, I was hoping that it would work with the current MoPho car dock, but looks like the micro-usb/micro-hdmi ports are at the bottom of the phone, instead of the top. Oh well.

I wonder if they'll disable lapdock connectivity, like the Atrix HD.

If WEBTOP becomes enabled, the ports alignment would be a perfect fit on the BIONIC LAPDOCK, but, if the Q is any thicker than the OG MO'PHO, it may not fit w/o a bit of modification to the LAPDOCK pocket.
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If WEBTOP becomes enabled, the ports alignment would be a perfect fit on the BIONIC LAPDOCK, but, if the Q is any thicker than the OG MO'PHO, it may not fit w/o a bit of modification to the LAPDOCK pocket.
Yeah, I was just hoping I could pick up a mopho vehicle dock for cheap and use it for the mophoq. Maybe the bionic cardock will work if the ports are in the same place for the mophoq.
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Just for quick description of differences, according to the measurements, the mopho q is only slightly thicker than the current mopho, although i'd imagine the overall feel will be noticed, as far as thickness. The processor is faster with the 1.5 ghz dual core snapdragon, which has gotten rave reviews from majority of the reviews. Internal storage is downgraded to 8gb from the current 16gb (11+ usable, partitioned as 3gb for apps and 8+ internal)...who knows how the 8gb storage will be partitioned on the mophoq. U'll have the new colorsplash hd display with 720p resolution. The battery is the same, except nn-removable. No more kickstand. Non-removable sim for international use. LTE for the mophoq vs. wimax for current mopho. Those are most of the differences. The recent mopho update added 1080p video capture, so that factoid on the specs isn't an "upgrade." I think this will be the most high-powered of the physical qwerty phones offered.
Other thank the keyboard the processor is what excites me most. I've heard great things about that. I also love ICS compared to both Honeycomb and Gingerbread, so it will be nice to have that out of the box.

Having a non-removable battery is disappointing and the storage is odd to hear they went down in size - but that doesn't bother me much knowing I always move my micro SD with me from one phone to the next.

I checked the stats last night too and in look & feel it should be very close to the original MoPho otherwise.
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I am torn... want 4g but sim & battery both not removeable? Any idea whether my MoPho car kit will work with the Q? That would help me lean toward trying it. I'm also assuming my 64GB sd will work as it does on my MoPho...
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I am torn... want 4g but sim & battery both not removeable? Any idea whether my MoPho car kit will work with the Q? That would help me lean toward trying it. I'm also assuming my 64GB sd will work as it does on my MoPho...
The positioning is different, so original mopho car dock won't work. KOLIO pointed out, in the photon 2 discussion thread, the position is similar to the bionic.

64gb card should work. I haven't seen anybody mention any phone it hasn't worked with.
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One other spec that hasn't been confirmed:
Does the PQLTE have GORILLA GLASS/II?

The link that's posted @ the beginning of this thread states the glass is 'scratch resistant',w/a nano-coating to protect against moisture/spills.

I'm just now realizing how nice this feature is(GORILLA GLASS),as I just recently removed the ZAGG screen protector that had been on since Day One. I take care of my phone ,but,I don't baby it either,& on more than one occasion I've been glad to have GORILLA GLASS & not have a single scratch on the glass.

Here's hoping whatever material the screen is made of is at least as good as the OG MO'PHO.

Another spec that I hope is an improvement over the OG MO'PHO is the upgrade in BLUETOOTH to version 4.0. I have two BT headsets (JABRA STONE 2 & MOTOROLA SD 10 STEREO HEADPHONES) & the connectivity can be spotty @ times,(w/or w/o a decent data connection,just to rule out the possibility of a bad data connection).

Since I'm not due an upgrade for almost a year,& no mention of LTE in my area any time soon ,I probably won't get this phone ,but,will keep an eye on the classifieds for a deal on a used one.
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Phone Arena has the size comparison available:

Motorola PHOTON Q 4G LTE Visual Size Comparison

Even though the dimensions show that it's only slightly thicker than the MoPho, my suspisions were correct about overall thickness. When OEM's measure the thickness, they only put the measurement for the thickest part of the phone and never indicate that the thickness might lessen on the side of the phone due to the contours.

That looks like it might be the case here. The back of the MoPho is curved down (similar to the original Evo), so while the overall dimensions say it's thicker than most, it really isn't that much thicker (only thick on the center portion of the phone). With the MoPhoQ, it looks like the thickness too the phone remains consistent up to the side of the phone, so the "overall" feel of the phone is likely to be thicker. That said, the MoPhoQ still looks pretty darn sleek for a phone with a physical qwerty. I think the contoured edges might help even more with the MoPhoQ because it looks sleeker (from the profile) than the Droid 4. Overall feel should be very similar to how the original Epic 4g was, which is good because the person that I'm getting this for used to have the Epic 4G before the iPhone.
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Previous to the MoPho I had the Samsung Intercept. It was a bit thicker than the MoPhoQ is and it never felt too bad to me. One thing I will say the casing makes all the difference in the world with a slider or any kind of physical keyboard even more than thickness. My Intercept was very slick and that wasn't very good for typing.

That is one thing I'll be interested in is how the back feels. It looks textured which is good IMO for typing and holding in general. Other than typing, I don't really notice phone thickness but I am a gal who has a pretty little Coach cell phone case so that part doesn't get to me as much as my husband or others LOL
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Something that I am confused about is... do the onscreen buttons count as part of the screen resolution? If so, wouldn't it basically have the exact same size usable area as the Epic, 800 x 480 at 4"?
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Something that I am confused about is... do the onscreen buttons count as part of the screen resolution? If so, wouldn't it basically have the exact same size usable area as the Epic, 800 x 480 at 4"?
I am not quite sure about that myself. It is one thing I will compare when I have the two side by side. Personally anything 4" or larger is good enough for me. I probably wouldn't notice if I lost a few to buttons. I looked at the online photos and it is too hard for me to tell for sure.
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Not sure if it was on the site before, but they also listed the accessories that they plan to release:

http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/HD-Dock-for-MOTOROLA-PHOTON%E2%84%A2-Q-4G-LTE/m-HD-Dock-for-MOTOROLA-PHOTON-Q,en_US,pd.html

http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/Vehicle-Navigation-Dock-for-MOTOROLA-PHOTON%E2%84%A2-Q-4G-LTE/m-Vehicle-Navigation-Dock-for-MOTOROLA-PHOTON-Q,en_US,pd.html
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Motorola has announced that PHOTON™ Q 4G LTE is coming out with an unlockable bootloader.. If it does, I would totally give it a try...

Motorola PHOTON™ Q 4G LTE gets an unlockable bootloader
Yeah, that was announced shortly after the phone was announced and was apparently going to be the case for all future Motorola phones, starting with the MoPhoQ
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I made my wife switch to Sprint in 2010 so I could get the EVO 4G. She just HAS to have a keyboard so she got a Samsung Moment. That thing is majorly on its last legs and I refused to pay $100 for the already 2-years old Galaxy S (first gen). With the Photon Q I can FINALLY upgrade my wife's phone. She doesn't care about specs, so long as it's not painfully slow. And she uses a Toycam app to take all of her pictures (kinda like instagram), so camera quality will more than she needs . I'm just glad I can finally get her SOMETHING new.
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I made my wife switch to Sprint in 2010 so I could get the EVO 4G. She just HAS to have a keyboard so she got a Samsung Moment. That thing is majorly on its last legs and I refused to pay $100 for the already 2-years old Galaxy S (first gen). With the Photon Q I can FINALLY upgrade my wife's phone. She doesn't care about specs, so long as it's not painfully slow. And she uses a Toycam app to take all of her pictures (kinda like instagram), so camera quality will more than she needs . I'm just glad I can finally get her SOMETHING new.
It'll without a doubt be day and night from her Moment. The Moment and Epic 4G were both very poorly supported by Samsung. Samsung didn't step up their support (non-root) efforts until after the SGS 2 phones had crazy sales.
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If they wanted to do a non-removable, they should of made it larger. Crazy to me they keep roughly the same size from the original. Moto has the know how to make some really fine phones, the Photon and the Razr's are good examples of that. One upside I guess is timely stuff from google due to being under their banner now and world phone on sprint.
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8/19 Release Date. $199. Sprint taking pre-orders
Official: Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE headed to Sprint August 19, up for pre-order now

Best Buy taking pre-orders also:
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Awesome! I am not going to run out and buy it right away - especially not with the way pricing went for the original, but I am looking forward to comparing the two before we decide how we'll use our upgrades.

Not shocked at the price, but I have a feeling it will drop at some point - and that's when I'll jump.
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Awesome! I am not going to run out and buy it right away - especially not with the way pricing went for the original, but I am looking forward to comparing the two before we decide how we'll use our upgrades.

Not shocked at the price, but I have a feeling it will drop at some point - and that's when I'll jump.
Yup. I'm figuring 2 weeks after release (if not sooner), price will drop. I ended up getting 2 price adjustments on my MoPho ($179 price match w/ radio shack & $99 price reduction after 3 weeks of the phone being released).
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Yup. I'm figuring 2 weeks after release (if not sooner), price will drop. I ended up getting 2 price adjustments on my MoPho ($179 price match w/ radio shack & $99 price reduction after 3 weeks of the phone being released).
I only took advantage of the $99 reduction myself. The $20 off wasn't worth my time/effort but when it dropped $100 I was there to use that one.

I'd rather not deal with that and I also know that there can be some awesome deals around Black Friday for phones.

I guess when you have a phone you love you don't feel the need to rush out and change. Plus we do need to decide what to do with my current MoPho. Do I keep it for my DH or do I sell it back or just keep it in case...
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I only took advantage of the $99 reduction myself. The $20 off wasn't worth my time/effort but when it dropped $100 I was there to use that one.

I'd rather not deal with that and I also know that there can be some awesome deals around Black Friday for phones.

I guess when you have a phone you love you don't feel the need to rush out and change. Plus we do need to decide what to do with my current MoPho. Do I keep it for my DH or do I sell it back or just keep it in case...
Oh, the 1st reduction actually took no effort on my part except for printing out the radio shack ad and bringing it while I was doing the ugprade...LOL...I wouldn't have gone to the store to get a price match if it was after the fact.

I'm personally keeping it. Having a phone with an unlocked SIM (for international/travelling purposes), that can also be re-activated as a back-up phone on Sprint, and will definitely be a fantastic dedicated media player (coupled with my lapdock 100)...it's exactly what I need, aside from my daily phone.
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For those of you that have been considering the MoPho Q and happen to be Best Buy rewardszone members, you can pre-order through https://rewardzonemobile.com/
Here's the thing, it's affiliated with Best Buy, but not necessarily a "direct" link to Best Buy, so exchanges do seem to be a little more involved (in the event anything is wrong). I checked with a local store and they said they'd price match, if the stores list at $199

Oh yeah, the whole reason I'm mentioning this is, rewardzonemobile.com has the MoPho Q listed at $149.
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Interesting about the price already. I think that's exactly why I am waiting on this phone. I also want to play with it more to make sure it is exactly what I want as this is my last cheap upgrade for 2 years.

Looks great in those videos though. I hope to find some time this weekend to see it. Hopefully it will be available Sunday at some Sprint stores for me to look at and see side by side.
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Interesting about the price already. I think that's exactly why I am waiting on this phone. I also want to play with it more to make sure it is exactly what I want as this is my last cheap upgrade for 2 years.

Looks great in those videos though. I hope to find some time this weekend to see it. Hopefully it will be available Sunday at some Sprint stores for me to look at and see side by side.
As much as we all loved the MoPho, I'm pretty sure you'll have the same experience and better performance (w/ that snapdragon 1.5ghz processor). Next closest physical qwerty phone that's been rumored is the LG Cayenne, which doesn't have as good of specs.
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As much as we all loved the MoPho, I'm pretty sure you'll have the same experience and better performance (w/ that snapdragon 1.5ghz processor). Next closest physical qwerty phone that's been rumored is the LG Cayenne, which doesn't have as good of specs.
On paper it sounds like it is great. I always need to make sure it feels right. As a female with tiny hands (size 4 ring for example) I am quite particular on a how a phone feels.

I am curious to see how the phones compare in display. Seems the MoPho is a love or hate thing and I would like to see the two side by side for fun.

There is nothing I hate about the MoPho - only one thing I dislike and that is the one thing the MoPho Q will have.

I talked it over with my husband and we are pretty sure we will keep the original MoPho for him and have the Q for me. Our 4yo can play with the old Evo if he wants LOL I'm excited for the new one and really hope it is everything I'd dream in a phone.

If only the battery were removable but oh well...
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Something that I am confused about is... do the onscreen buttons count as part of the screen resolution? If so, wouldn't it basically have the exact same size usable area as the Epic, 800 x 480 at 4"?
I thought of you today when looking at the phone. Yes the buttons are part of the resolution *but* they hide when looking at videos and the like. So when it comes to important stuff, the buttons are not in the way.
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That is still part of the problem. You have to tap the screen to get buttons back. They take up res on your home screen. I really don't get the move away from actual buttons (physical or capacitive). Designs aren't that much different and there is still plenty of bezel for them, especially when you don't have a ton of branding on the front of the phone. Just decreases usability without them. Sammy has it right.

And while this phone is pretty good on its own, it is still a disappointment as a true upgrade to the epic. The epic was toe to toe spec wise to its slate counterparts. The Q isn't. Give me a 720 screen and 2 gigs of RAM. Even if the battery life is decent, it's still fixed, and there are too many what if scenarios when us business people (and road warriors to boot) can run out of juice. Now our only option is to be tethered to a battery pack or outlet. It is not productive or always feasible.

The embedded sim is nothing but pure unadulterated greed and a big FU to anyone who travels, casually or for business. Someone gave the argument of business travel and companies reimburse. Was like, that's your argument? Milk companies for more revenue because it's not coming out of your pocket? Regardless of those questionable ethics and ignoring 1099's and people that foot their own bill. If I started submitting expenses for the phone that were originally under $100 and are now pushing $500, eyebrows would be raised. A $2500 trip that is now over $3000 would start to be questioned. Sorry, but it is just inexcusable for a phone that is advertised as world friendly. It is not to anyone's wallet but Sprint's.

And with embedding these things, space saving is supposed to be a side effect, or at least using the extra space for a bigger battery. The Q does neither. It is fatter than the droid 4 and the battery is even smaller than the Evo. The reduced footprint is meaningless when weight and thickness aren't reduced.
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That is still part of the problem. You have to tap the screen to get buttons back. They take up res on your home screen. I really don't get the move away from actual buttons (physical or capacitive). Designs aren't that much different and there is still plenty of bezel for them, especially when you don't have a ton of branding on the front of the phone. Just decreases usability without them. Sammy has it right.

And while this phone is pretty good on its own, it is still a disappointment as a true upgrade to the epic. The epic was toe to toe spec wise to its slate counterparts. The Q isn't. Give me a 720 screen and 2 gigs of RAM. Even if the battery life is decent, it's still fixed, and there are too many what if scenarios when us business people (and road warriors to boot) can run out of juice. Now our only option is to be tethered to a battery pack or outlet. It is not productive or always feasible.

The embedded sim is nothing but pure unadulterated greed and a big FU to anyone who travels, casually or for business. Someone gave the argument of business travel and companies reimburse. Was like, that's your argument? Milk companies for more revenue because it's not coming out of your pocket? Regardless of those questionable ethics and ignoring 1099's and people that foot their own bill. If I started submitting expenses for the phone that were originally under $100 and are now pushing $500, eyebrows would be raised. A $2500 trip that is now over $3000 would start to be questioned. Sorry, but it is just inexcusable for a phone that is advertised as world friendly. It is not to anyone's wallet but Sprint's.

And with embedding these things, space saving is supposed to be a side effect, or at least using the extra space for a bigger battery. The Q does neither. It is fatter than the droid 4 and the battery is even smaller than the Evo. The reduced footprint is meaningless when weight and thickness aren't reduced.
I got the phone for my relative, who's on my account. The bold part isn't true. It's thinner than the Droid 4. I'm assuming you meant LTEvo, not the original Evo because it's definitely a bigger battery than the original Evo.
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I got the phone for my relative, who's on my account. The bold part isn't true. It's thinner than the Droid 4. I'm assuming you meant LTEvo, not the original Evo because it's definitely a bigger battery than the original Evo.
Epic____ 124.0 x 65.0 x 14.0 155g
Photon Q 126.4 x 66.0 x 13.7 170g
Droid 4__ 126.7 x 69.9 x 12.9 179g

And why would i care about the original evo? the only relevant 2yr old phone is the Epic when discussing the Q. It's bad enough the companies have to add twenty million descriptors when naming a phone. Don't cater to them by perpetuating here. If anyone mentions the Evo in a current discussion it should be a given it's the LTE version. And in this case I'm comparing fixed batteries.

Seriously though. Evo 2 wouldn't have been enough of a name? Or just Evo HD, Evo LTE? All the add on names are just ridiculous.

Doesn't mean i'm not picking up mine in an hour, but it doesn't mean I'm happy. I'm just hoping the better radios will stop my battery from draining where I'm in signal challenged areas for hours on end, and I can chew through an 1800mAh battery in my Epic in about 4-5hrs with average use. And next Wednesday I'll have a good day to test that out as my one hospital's OR is 20ft from the edge of the building, and sitting in an OR room all day checking some email, answering some texts and minimal surfing kills my battery in that 4-5hr range.
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Well, good luck to any customer who picks this phone up after you've experienced the superiority of the original MoPho. I expect pure disappointment. Those specs are a step back to 2009. I wonder what the price will be. It better be cheaper than $99 or I doubt that there will be many takers.
While I can have my gripes with some of the specs on the phone... S4 w/1gb of RAM is the same as the premium slates outside of the 2gb of RAM in the GS3. The qHD screen while not HD is at least not Pentile and the colorboost doesn't seem to have made the colors oversaturated like it is on the Atrix HD and the screen is much brighter for daytime viewing.

The only two specs that are long in tooth are the qHD and sub 1800mAh battery, neither of which existed in 09' in a smartphone. Even said sarcastically, the comment makes no sense. Superiority of the og Photon? outside of the removable battery and unlocked SIM, what else is superior? The tegra 2 processor or the pentile qHD screen? The only thing I'll give you is the capacitive buttons not being on screen which is my other gripe. They need to be back on the bezel. The branding is gone so there is plenty of room for them.

The lack of branding on the front is also nice.
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Epic____ 124.0 x 65.0 x 14.0 155g
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Droid 4__ 126.7 x 69.9 x 12.9 179g

And why would i care about the original evo? the only relevant 2yr old phone is the Epic when discussing the Q. It's bad enough the companies have to add twenty million descriptors when naming a phone. Don't cater to them by perpetuating here. If anyone mentions the Evo in a current discussion it should be a given it's the LTE version. And in this case I'm comparing fixed batteries.

Seriously though. Evo 2 wouldn't have been enough of a name? Or just Evo HD, Evo LTE? All the add on names are just ridiculous.

Doesn't mean i'm not picking up mine in an hour, but it doesn't mean I'm happy. I'm just hoping the better radios will stop my battery from draining where I'm in signal challenged areas for hours on end, and I can chew through an 1800mAh battery in my Epic in about 4-5hrs with average use. And next Wednesday I'll have a good day to test that out as my one hospital's OR is 20ft from the edge of the building, and sitting in an OR room all day checking some email, answering some texts and minimal surfing kills my battery in that 4-5hr range.
Definitely understandable. Seriously though, even with the dimensions, it felt thinner than the Droid 4 to me.
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While I can have my gripes with some of the specs on the phone... S4 w/1gb of RAM is the same as the premium slates outside of the 2gb of RAM in the GS3. The qHD screen while not HD is at least not Pentile and the colorboost doesn't seem to have made the colors oversaturated like it is on the Atrix HD and the screen is much brighter for daytime viewing.

The only two specs that are long in tooth are the qHD and sub 1800mAh battery, neither of which existed in 09' in a smartphone. Even said sarcastically, the comment makes no sense. Superiority of the og Photon? outside of the removable battery and unlocked SIM, what else is superior? The tegra 2 processor or the pentile qHD screen? The only thing I'll give you is the capacitive buttons not being on screen which is my other gripe. They need to be back on the bezel. The branding is gone so there is plenty of room for them.

The lack of branding on the front is also nice.
One thing I can tell you is that, I like the Colorboost a lot. I didn't think it'd make that much of a difference for me, but no pentile + color boost really looked nice and crisp and I like the overall screen experience better than the current moPho. One thing I did notice is, the stock UI still seems to have a slight 'bit of lag.
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I'm using Holo so no stock for me. And is it me, but do I still see pixels?

Over the Epic, it definitely charges quicker which is a plus. The tab key is messing me up a bit as is the apostrophe. Those are just learning curve things I'm sure. Don't like the lack of capacitive or hard buttons, and I don't care for the order of the on screen ones. That's about it for now.
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I'm using Holo so no stock for me. And is it me, but do I still see pixels?

Over the Epic, it definitely charges quicker which is a plus. The tab key is messing me up a bit as is the apostrophe. Those are just learning curve things I'm sure. Don't like the lack of capacitive or hard buttons, and I don't care for the order of the on screen ones. That's about it for now.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to trying out Holo and Apex. I honestly couldn't see them, in comparison to how I saw them on the MoPho. The pixels never really bothered me though.

I agree with the on-screen buttons (as far as order). I'd like them a whole lot better, if the manufacturers were able to get rid of the bottom bezel (that does absolutely nothing) and just add that part of the phone to the screen viewing. Shoot, if you're getting rid of the capacitive buttons, then what's the point of having that bottom bezel anyway?
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