I'm planning to buy a 16gb or 8gb micro sd card for my triumph. What is the best class to buy and what brand works well with the triumph? Does class really matters should I get class 10 or 6 will be good enough?
You may be able to do better on Amazon, I'm not sure.
I would go with a name brand card, and I would go with a CL10. Likely, if you use it in another device, faster is generally better. The price difference should be immaterial at this point between a 6 and 10.
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On MicroSD chips, I use Transcend Class 6 4GB, but I'll be upgrading to the 16GB myself. The Patriot brand doesn't seem to work in Android, from the reviews. I've used Sandisk and they work well.
I think you'll be safe with a Class 6, but a Class 10 doesn't cost much more and you might see the difference in the transfer times to your computer.
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I think you'll be safe with a Class 6, but a Class 10 doesn't cost much more and you might see the difference in the transfer times to your computer.
Right, if you are moving a lot of stuff from phone to PC or back (I prefer using FTP (SwiFTP for the phone, and FileZilla for the PC)), yes. Also, the class of the card could impact video recording top-speed. Not positive there, but with the CL10 cards in the $24-28 range, why go with a CL6 card?
I rather spend a few dollars more than buy some cheap item on ebay that is a chinese knockoff and you find out in few days the thing is already broken.
I think Im going to get the PNY 16gb class 10 for $29.oo not including shipping. I have read good reviews on amazon about it.
I actually just bought the 16 GB PNY class 10 micro sd card. I just ran a benchmark using Antutu and i got an sd card read score of 15.7 MB/s and write score of 10.7 MB/s.
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Somewhere, can't put my fingers on it... maybe in the Motorola Owners forum, people are indicating that PNY cards may present problems. I use a 16GB Adata card, CL 10 and it is working well for me.
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I'm planning to buy a 16gb or 8gb micro sd card for my triumph. What is the best class to buy and what brand works well with the triumph? Does class really matters should I get class 10 or 6 will be good enough?
I am late to the party for this question, but find a lot of people spending more than they need to on cards. Not long ago I bought a Kodak "flip" style video camera that will do 1080HD. They provided a small CL6 card with it and everyone said you needed a 10. I talked to the Kodak engineer and he said CL6 was all that was needed, and in fact, all the buss was rated for.
I have been having this "faster memory" argument since I put DIPS in the first PC in '83. The card won't be written to faster than it was programmed to write and a faster card doesn't accomplish anything over a card that is fast enough.
if a Kodak can write 1080HD data to a CL6 card, then a phone can too. There is in fact less data being written (read slower) than on the Kodak.
If you are going to bump up the clock, then maybe it will write to the buss quicker, all depends on the architecture, but I still wouldn't buy more than a CL6 card for this application.
Do Cl10 cards generally write & read faster via USB transfers to a desktop? Sometimes I move several or 10 or 20 GB of music or video and it can take "a long while".
I am late to the party for this question, but find a lot of people spending more than they need to on cards. Not long ago I bought a Kodak "flip" style video camera that will do 1080HD. They provided a small CL6 card with it and everyone said you needed a 10. I talked to the Kodak engineer and he said CL6 was all that was needed, and in fact, all the buss was rated for.
I have been having this "faster memory" argument since I put DIPS in the first PC in '83. The card won't be written to faster than it was programmed to write and a faster card doesn't accomplish anything over a card that is fast enough.
if a Kodak can write 1080HD data to a CL6 card, then a phone can too. There is in fact less data being written (read slower) than on the Kodak.
If you are going to bump up the clock, then maybe it will write to the buss quicker, all depends on the architecture, but I still wouldn't buy more than a CL6 card for this application.
You are right about some of this but not all of what you say is true.
First is the understanding your phone is built with some regulations. This is so your phone has a more consistent experience (mostly for battery life) and also to help with heating problems in the long run. One things phone do to stabilize both of those things is they regulate voltages. They do this for the cpu, ram, gpu and Microsd port. The reason this can become a problem for speed with Microsd cards is that they do not have a standard rating of operating voltage for each card. Each card could need a different amount of voltage to run at optimal performance. Usually that means faster cards will perform only at rated speeds if it gets the appropriate amount of voltage. If you go to this link you will see the Micro SDHC standard has a range of voltage ratings. Now when your phone manufacture builds and tests there phones in order for them to make battery life better and to allow them coincide with other heat producing chips they have to regulate the microsd card slot to an average Microsd performance vs overall system performance ratio. Since this is a phone and most people will not be able to see a difference in a class 4 and a class 6 speed the voltage is set kind of low. If you take an 4gig class 6 sdhc card and do a speed check against a 8gig class 6 card you will get the same speed usually. This is because 8 gig cards use more voltage because they are more condensed and a higher voltage is needed to run at rated speeds for this card. Now since phone manufactures and card makers are very secret about there specs it's impossible to know if this is being worked on. I do know that there is one microsd card manufacture that just released a line of microsd cards optimized for phones. These are higher storage cards with lower voltage ratings. That means you have a better chance of getting the high speed from them on your phone. Also it's hard to say if phone manufactures aren't bumping up the voltage on there slots due to 1080p recording and the need for extra speed. There needs to be a thorough test done. There is some good info here about multiple cards and there performance.
Oh and also the reason why your Kodak can record 1080p video onto a cl6 card is because your camera' is not optimized to be a phone. Meaning that it's not looking to suck down the least amount of voltage over the entire day. Since it's only on for small periods of time and needs performance over battery life the micro sd card slot is not going to be inhibited by voltage regulation. Also I bet your Kodak has a higher average bitrate then the 1080p video that is being produced on these phones. Also something that is possible but probably not likely is that a phone recording at 1080p the video is buffering and probably being temporary stored on your internal memory (which is faster then your microsd card usually) and then get's thrown on your sd card. That's just a theory though.
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Class 2 2 MB/s
Class 4 4 MB/s
Class 6 6 MB/s
Class 10 10 MB/s
Only if you plug your microsd card into a media reader not if it's being transferred with the phone. The speeds will vary per device and specifications of the card and the rating does not always stand true.
Also in my earlier post I mentioned about 1080p video being sent to internal memory for buffer but then I forgot most phones with 1080p video have 768mb of ram or more. So the ram can be used as a buffer. It can also be used as buffer before compression and after compression. 100mb of uncompressed video should be good enough to handle the video stream in real time. The dual core cpu's should be able to compress that quickly enough. Then another 100mb of buffer for the compressed video so it doesn't have to transfer the video in real time to your device it the device some room to save energy on running a faster card. If this isn't how they handle 1080p video recording on phones it should be. The reason I can see why regular camera's don't handle video like this is that it would more expensive to add more ram and would just work out better to force the consumer to get a faster card.
Here's a pretty good deal (finally, one that didn't sell out before I got there) on a microsdhc class 10 16gb card at meritline: click for link, but first:
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Here's a pretty good deal (finally, one that didn't sell out before I got there) on a microsdhc class 10 16gb card at meritline: click for link, but first:
If you haven't already, check out Mrrebates, which is free to join - I have embedded my referral code if you don't mind - click on the Meritline store link inside mrrebates, you will get an additional 3% cash back via check or paypal. I also use ebates for similar cash back deals, but they don't have meritline as a vendor. Both have brownie points for referrals and a ton of stores to get cash back at - remember to visit the store through the service's clickable links.
You are better off with this one by ADATA. Not only is it a better quality brand but it's cheaper. Class speed doesn't matter when it comes to phones.
I just installed my 16gb class 10 pny micro sd that i got from amazon for about 28 bucks so far its been working great been getting 12 mb write and 15 mb read.
If you are going to be recording HD Video I wouldn't get anything but a class 10.
Has anyone confirmed that going to a class 10 from a class 4 improves the "Skippy" video while panning? My friends Iphone takes much smoother video and was wondering if going to the class 10 will actually improve the Triumphs video so it is "smoother" when panning.
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I was going to say that the Adata cards are back at Newegg. I checked today and It let me add it to my cart and order which I did. I went to check the item again on their webpage and now it says out of stock could I have gotten the last one?
ok hi members but this is all a little confusing for me but can one of you guys post the link to a good 16 micro sd card good for the motorola triuph for me from radio shack or best buy that i canpick up in store thanks
ok hi members but this is all a little confusing for me but can one of you guys post the link to a good 16 micro sd card good for the motorola triuph for me from radio shack or best buy that i canpick up in store thanks
Here's the one I use that Best Buy carries. Class 10 16 GB PNY microSDHC card. I haven't had any problems with it; obviously it's more expensive than getting it online but at least you can get it right away and if you don't like it, you can return it right away:
whats the best class for me if i dont care for video recording, and not really for computer to phone transfer speed, just general use? and music playback?
Just got my Adata 32GB class 10 card today. Formatted using the phone and copied files from old 4GB card to it using PC and it is working quite well. Video now is noticeably much smoother.
I was under the impression from my reading of various forums that class 10 would improve recording speed of video
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Has anyone confirmed that going to a class 10 from a class 4 improves the "Skippy" video while panning? My friends Iphone takes much smoother video and was wondering if going to the class 10 will actually improve the Triumphs video so it is "smoother" when panning.
Bob
I confirm that a test shot around the room looks somewhat smoother from the one I had leftover on my other card.
I've seen some 32gb cards on ebay for around $20, question is will they really work?
Some people have reported getting cards labeled 32GB but when they insert it they are actually 4GB or less. Personally I was tricked last summer with a 32GB card on eBay for 28 dollars. The card showed to be the correct size, but after transferring all of my music and files over, the data would disappear and the PC would show "corruption errors".
So yeah.. name brand only
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Just got my Adata 32GB class 10 card today. Formatted using the phone and copied files from old 4GB card to it using PC and it is working quite well. Video now is noticeably much smoother.
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I have the included 2GB card now and want to upgrade to a larger SD. What's the process of getting all of my apps and such transferred over to the new SD card? Is it as easy as what we normally do for our cameras, computers? Just copy>paste?
Or do we have to do formatting/backing up whats on the original card in someway?
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I have the included 2GB card now and want to upgrade to a larger SD. What's the process of getting all of my apps and such transferred over to the new SD card? Is it as easy as what we normally do for our cameras, computers? Just copy>paste?
Or do we have to do formatting/backing up whats on the original card in someway?
You should be fine doing a copy/paste. Just keep it on the original card too in case.
I am not recommending but I just want to report that I am using no name brand class 4 16g from microcenter and all is well.
They are $16.99 now but I am sure it will get lower. There was black Friday special for $12.99 couple of weeks ago.
Yes, i have lucked out with "no-brand" cards and brands I'm not familiar with. I have only been ripped off once.
My last 16GB card was from a brand called "PQI" and my 8GB card that preceded it was no brand at all. All worked fine for almost a year.
Right now, I am using a 32GB Class 4 Sandisk with no problems whatsoever.
Just remember, if a 32GB card seems to affordable to be true, it probably is
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The general rule of thumb is that the class of the SD card ONLY affects things that will ever use that speed.
the most read/write intensive thing you can do off the SD card in the Triumph is playing and recording HD video. 720p is what the triumph can do, and a class 4 or class 6 card will suffice.
nothing else the phone does will take advantage of that speed and those things would work just as well on a class 2 card.
if the triumph had 1080p, maybe a class 6 would be the minimum card of choice, but its only 720 so we dont have to worry about that.
I use a HP branded class 6 16gb card, but im upgrading to a 32 in a few days becuase the 16 is getting really cramped
The general rule of thumb is that the class of the SD card ONLY affects things that will ever use that speed.
the most read/write intensive thing you can do off the SD card in the Triumph is playing and recording HD video. 720p is what the triumph can do, and a class 4 or class 6 card will suffice.
nothing else the phone does will take advantage of that speed and those things would work just as well on a class 2 card.
if the triumph had 1080p, maybe a class 6 would be the minimum card of choice, but its only 720 so we dont have to worry about that.
I use a HP branded class 6 16gb card, but im upgrading to a 32 in a few days becuase the 16 is getting really cramped
While you won't notice a performance difference between class 4 and class 10, the class of SD card you have makes a huge difference when transferring large amounts of data to it.. like from a pc for example.
Copying 16 gigs of data from a pc to a class 10 card is lightning fast And to a class 2 card is painfully slow which I have unfortunately experienced before LOL!
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While you won't notice a performance difference between class 4 and class 10, the class of SD card you have makes a huge difference when transferring large amounts of data to it.. like from a pc for example.
Copying 16 gigs of data from a pc to a class 10 card is lightning fast And to a class 2 card is painfully slow which I have unfortunately experienced before LOL!
How many users (not the heavy file swappers like me) really transfer large amounts of data at a time often enough for that to matter?
the majority of users will transfer between 4 and 8 GBs of music, maybe another 2 or 3 of movies or videos, and that content will sit on the card for months before being refreshed.
in daily use, the card speed doesnt matter so much.
but, of course, I use my cards to transfer big files between work and home and stuff so I benefit from it, but my point was that most dont see that single benefit to a class 10 over a lesser.
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How many users (not the heavy file swappers like me) really transfer large amounts of data at a time often enough for that to matter?
the majority of users will transfer between 4 and 8 GBs of music, maybe another 2 or 3 of movies or videos, and that content will sit on the card for months before being refreshed.
in daily use, the card speed doesnt matter so much.
but, of course, I use my cards to transfer big files between work and home and stuff so I benefit from it, but my point was that most dont see that single benefit to a class 10 over a lesser.
That is true.
I wasn't trying to assess what the majority of users will be using their card for, but merely inform on what differences will be noted between the classes of cards regardless of how often most users will likely be performing those tasks (if even at all).
I agree with you in the fact that I personally don't see a performance difference between the classes on a daily basis.
For those very few people who do plan on transferring data frequently between your device and your phone (whether through usb or ftp etc), just be aware of the difference in that respect
I just got a 16GB Samsung Class 10 from Amazon for $27 delivered.
I copied the 2 GB data to the new card, using a card reader, and installed it with no problems.
I decided to get a name brand and a class 10 based on advice from this thread. Some times it's not wise to save pennies.
Awesome!! I've always been happy with both Samsung and Sandisk brands.
There are plenty of people (including me) who have had excellent luck with no-brand cards, but being ripped off once was enough for me
Usually the name brand isn't that much more and it's always worth it for the peace of mind.
Using the 32 GB Sandisk Class 4 from the Newegg sale ($31 shipped) and haven't had any issues. The write when transferring files from PC hovers around 4 MB/sec in class 4 fashion but performs well in reads (~22-25 MB/sec).
Does not have issues recording '720p' video as 720p video will not saturate that transfer speed.
im using Sandisk 16gb class 4 from Amazon $15.67 can put alot of movies on here for long trips, im gonna build a rechargable battery USB charger for my summer travels YAY
I formatted a 16gb HD hc level 4 card that was bloated hardcore, flawless. I still want a 16gb class 10 but its for quality inna way not space, 4g was good with me, I keep clean, and clear up my cache, I keep it tidy, all my backups needed zips ect are on a 4g I keep in my satchel on me 24/7 just in case
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