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Old March 1st, 2011, 08:42 AM   #51 (permalink)
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I have to believe the "lag" when rotating the screen is somewhat intentional. My wife's iPad rotates the screen at the slightest movement. The Xoom is meant to be used in landscape orientation, so it makes sense there's an "are you sure?" delay built in.

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i agree i think the lag is intentional to some degree.
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Went to the verizon store the day after launch to play with honeycomb and see what the xoom is like. First thing i did while playing with the device is uninstall the task killer that some idiot at the verizon store installed on it. Man i wish i could afford the xoom because it looked and felt like a quality piece of equipment.
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Nice job, the task killers can cause a lot of problems. BTW if you have any old electronics laying around, BBY has a great trade in program. I traded in my wife's 6 yr old Macbook and one of my old Bass Guitars and got a ton of money for them. I ended up only having to pay about $270 for the Xoom.
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so i found this interesting review of the xoom and i thought i'd share. check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eeQZCMnHrc
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Good luck everyone with this tablet, I just return it back to verizon. Why? Main reason is screen which I believe not up to Apple in colors/contrast and touch response, compared several times and iPad is better on this.
Besides all other missing items promised initially like sd slot/4G/flash etc I don't like to wait. I am missing Netflix and Skype as well. So, I am getting iPad2 as soon as it will be in stores. Lost $70 restocking fees, but oh well I need something better than xoom. Enjoy!


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Good luck everyone with this tablet, I just return it back to verizon. Why? Main reason is screen which I believe not up to Apple in colors/contrast and touch response, compared several times and iPad is better on this.
Besides all other missing items promised initially like sd slot/4G/flash etc I don't like to wait. I am missing Netflix and Skype as well. So, I am getting iPad2 as soon as it will be in stores. Lost $70 restocking fees, but oh well I need something better than xoom. Enjoy!


So let me get this straight... your returning your Xoom for an iPad.. because it doesnt have flash, 4G, and a nice screen although the iPad doesnt have flash, 4G and has a lower resolution screen. You dont like to wait but your waiting another week and some to get an iPad. Call me stupid but am I missing something?? You're not trolling at all
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You are not reading me correct, I said - Screen, screen and screen. Xoom is behind even on ipad1 with screen to my eyes and fingers. Touch screen response on iPad is two head above even now before iPad2. All other items not as important as this. Waiting one week is nothing in compare with unknown waiting period on Xoom. I need Netflix today and I am talking on Skype lot, why should I wait and for how long? So, don't troll me out I am out anyway

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I talk on Skype on my Xoom right now with no issues. No offense personally, but I am a pro photographer and the Ipad screen is HORRIBLE. Both my wife and I had one and we got bored after 1 month. They Xoom screen, while not the best in the world, displays colors much better then an ipad. I use my tablets as portfolio demos when approaching new clients and galleries.
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upon my return home. 16 apps for the tablet? I have been using it for over a week now and took it on the road with me. Basically, it does email and calendaring bigger than my droid phone, most of the apps I would like to use either don't even launch or render in a tiny little box - the size of my droid. As the other individual mentioned earlier, the key features separating this from an iPad - flash support and SD - have no timetable for delivery. No idea when decent apps will be available. No movie service of which I am aware. Would hate to sit on this thing past the 14 days to learn that there are issues in releasing flash support or the have unfortunately determined SD support is not possible or requires a vacation at Motorola. True, the iPad does not have flash or SD support, but they have apps you can actually use to get work done and be entertained. I keep flipping home screen to home screen and to the app store and nothing is there. I have all the same stuff on my droid phone already. I will get an iPad 2, because it is functional and I need functional. This rush to market, instead of leapfrogging iPad, has fallen flat on its face, in my opinion.
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The ability to plug in a USB thumb drive (using an adapter since the Xoom doesn't have a full-size USB port) and have the Xoom recognize it and be able to transfer files between the thumb drive and the Xoom.
Thanks. You know I feel stupid for not even realizing the Xoom doesn't have a full size USB port. I had just taken it for granted I could stick a thumb drive in there to use for watching movies. That's kind of a bummer. Why the heck would they leave that out???
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because a USB port is not a thin port. I will take the SD card slot over using an external harddrive
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Oops, you are talking but where is video? Are you sure about no issues? Pro and can't see difference in colors? Just put it next to calibrated well monitor and check again. Another case when word pro means nothing ...

Ya. I used it again today for a 30 minute call with no issues. Yes there is no video chat for it yet, but that will come.

As far as your condescending comments on what I do for a living, yes...the ipad screen is nothing to rave about. The xoom, while not that much better, is certainly better at displaying high quality images. I actually work occationally for National Geographic so yes, I do consider myself a Professional and since I make a living by utilizing devices like the Xoom, to help me secure future contracts... so ya I have an opinion on what I feel is an incorrect statement. You play with your tablets, I use then to help me feed my family...

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You can't comepare a tablet with current tech and a calibrated LCD screen. Maybe in a year or two...no device today will even come close...
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because a USB port is not a thin port. I will take the SD card slot over using an external harddrive
Not sure what "thin" has to do with it? As long as the Xoom is thicker than a USB port I don't see why it couldn't fit. Also not sure why the two (SD/USB) have to be mutually exclusive.
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Thanks. You know I feel stupid for not even realizing the Xoom doesn't have a full size USB port. I had just taken it for granted I could stick a thumb drive in there to use for watching movies. That's kind of a bummer. Why the heck would they leave that out???
Toshiba will have the full size usb port. This is want we all want. I think Moto missed it on that point.
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upon my return home. 16 apps for the tablet?
Specifically for the tablet, yes. If you run Spare Parts, you can run your phone apps at full screen. Everyone saying that the device only has 16 apps reeks of Engadget iFanboyism.

If you don't want to pay $450 (the price I got it for on contract) for the tablet, don't but don't lie about it to support your position. Yes, it is overpriced, yes, it has problems, but that whooshing sound is not just the sound of ignorant people abandoning the Xoom for the next iThing, it's also the sound of the credibility of liars finally being flushed.
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Toshiba will have the full size usb port. This is want we all want. I think Moto missed it on that point.
Great Pict Coolby!!
By the way Colby have you taken pictures with your Xoom? how do they come out? You are good enough to have a post on your own.

Thanks! I have taken a few photos with the Xoom, but it is nothing to write home about. It does a good job when you have nice quality soft light, much like your average smart phone. I take my Droid X running liberty 1.5 with me on all my trips, but only to shoot "behind the scenes" stills and video. IMO we are still 1 or 2 years away from getting quality cameras in phones and tablets and even then the sensor is so small that I do not think they will ever be able to handle low light situations very well. Of course that is why I shoot with a $5000 Pro camera for my work and not a little smart phone
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I have faith in the hacking community that USB host support will come to the Xoom. Just give it time. As soon as we get micro SD card access...custom roms will begin to flow in.
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Specifically for the tablet, yes. If you run Spare Parts, you can run your phone apps at full screen. Everyone saying that the device only has 16 apps reeks of Engadget iFanboyism.

If you don't want to pay $450 (the price I got it for on contract) for the tablet, don't but don't lie about it to support your position. Yes, it is overpriced, yes, it has problems, but that whooshing sound is not just the sound of ignorant people abandoning the Xoom for the next iThing, it's also the sound of the credibility of liars finally being flushed.
Wow...thats nice if it does run phone apps in full screen. Seems like a lil known secret right now..
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Gizmodo just posted up their review... Gizmodo, the Gadget Guide
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Gizmodo just posted up their review... Gizmodo, the Gadget Guide
That was a somewhat fair review. I feel like they really wanted to like the tablet too much though and were too lenient on it for the drawbacks. I do agree that it's pretty cool but don't think it's as stylish as they seem to.

Oh, and thanks Gizmodo for reminding me of the UI blunder about the way you access the app drawer. Couldn't you let me get annoyed by it after repeatedly being stifled in that way only to nerd rage about it on here someday instead of thinking about it everytime I bring up the app drawer now.

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Had the Xoom now for 12 hours and i luv it :-) . Not a tablet on the market that has everything but i'll take an Android device and the openesss over a closed Apple any day and all day.
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Here is my mini review.

I got my unit today and I played with it a couple of hours.

1- The size/weight. The tablet is surprisingly small for 10.1 inches. This has something to do with the 16:10 form factor. I like it and portrait mode isn't as bad as I thought. The tablet feels thin to hold but it definitely gets thicker in the middle.
There is no way around this. Its kind of heavy. Let me put this into perspective-its not laptop heavy, its even lighter than a big hard cover book. However, for extended periods of time, you will wish it was the ipad 2 at 1.3 lbs.

2- The Screen- The screen is absolutely fine. its a little less vibrant than my ipad but its really just fine and if you didn't have them side by side you would be very happy. Having said that, the software has serious issues. Pictures on facebook look completely blurry to me. This isn't the screen, something about the way the xoom process pictures. Its annoying and totally unacceptable in an 800 dollar tablet. The good news is this will likely get fixed in an update soon

3-Video Chatting- OK so the xoom is the easiest most compatible device to video chat. It has great camera in the front and in the back. However, the video chat looks bad. It looks blurry compared to normal laptop google video calls and blurry compared to ipod touch facetime. I don't think this is a hardware limitation, it needs to be optimized.

4-UI Speed. THe UI is fast. Its the fastest I've ever seen android. It borders apple ios fast. However, there are several places where you can see a 1/10 of a second of hesitation. I can't explain it other than to say that when I do something on an ipad it feels organic where as if I do the same gesture (swipe, pinch etc) on the xoom, it feels like software responding to a command.

5- Google integration + overall. Google really hit a homerun here. I just put in my email address and the xoom automatically downloaded all my installed apps on my android phone and customized things for me. Fantastic, I have my calendar my contacts etc.

6-the browser- another home run. No flash yet tabs are definitely the way to go. Also you can just hide the address bar and use the side commands. Definite win and probably what you'll be doing 90 pct of the tim on a tablet.


Hope this helped any of you thinking of getting one. I think i'll be selling my 4g version and re-buying the xoom when its 549 at sams club at the end of the month.


Overall I think this will be a good tablet with a few updates. Until then
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Okay, so I've had my Xoom since Tuesday 3/1. Here's my initial impressions.

It's heavy/well built. I wasn't sure what to expect as have never even held an iPad etc. I do have an Acer Netbook ... it's heaver but not as solid.

One thing that struck me was the glare/reflection from the screen. It's not evident on most of the video reviews and ad images of course. It's a bit annoying, but not a major problem.

I'm totally impressed with the browser and the web browsing experience!

Battery life seems great, but I really haven't pushed it very hard.

I love the ebook capabilities. Nice GoogleBook Browser. Aldiko works wonderfully (full screen) and the QuickOffice and Aldiko display PDFs wonderfully. This is the first portable Reader/Tablet that I'd even bother reading PDFs on (other than full computer or netbook)

Sound is great if a bit low volume-wise. I'm sure headphones/earpods are great (have not tried them yet)

I don't like that it has a special charger and will not charge from the USB...but can live with it.

I love that it has wi-fi hotspot built in!! Yea! Not sure if it will connect to the corporate VPN, but will try that at some point.

I do wish it had flash already, but I'm confident it will be available in the next month or so.

I'd definitely give it a 9/10 (and no rotten apples about it).
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Nope. Love my Xoom. Boughta third Xoom last night for my daughters birthday. Highly recommend you pick one up. Now that the full sbf is out ROMS should be out shortly making it an even better purchase.
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In my opinion the Xoom is way over priced, compared to its closest competitor, the iPad 2. I'm not saying that the iPad 2 is better but I figure it'll sell just as well as its predecessor and the Xoom will have to come down at least $100 to stay competitive. As for the wifi only Xoom, $600 seems like a reasonable MSRP for a 32GB Tablet, though the Sam's Club price of $530 seems a lot more reasonable.
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i got mine on the $200 off deal and for $600 its well worth it i think. i have used it for most all my web browsing at home before work the last 2 days (10 hours or so) and have still got 47% battery. So that includes all the playing around and downloading and installing apps and such. After 3 days of having it the only thing i think could be better is how heavy it is. You will notice the extra few ozs after a little bit. i am going to use it for the next 5 days and try not to use my laptop at all. we will see
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I don't think its overpriced at all considering how much more it has than what the pad 2 will. Soon flash, and 4G will be part of Xoom. And what's the pad 2 price for for a 32 3G, 670$-730$, I honestly don't know. Yeah that's an easy choice in my opinion.
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I caved in and bought a XOOM. I went for the 3G/4G model, but have not bought a data plan for it (as I can tether from my phone). The option for 4G is there, should I want it later though.

So far I am enjoying it. Although no flash, there is the Youtube app which works for what I need it for. As for apps, I am not concerned. There are only a handful of 'tablet optimized' apps, but the rest of the Android Market is still there and all of them work. The biggest drawback was price for me. I dropped a lot of cash for something to surf the internet, watch Youtube, and play games with. I will be getting more use out of it though, as I am dumping my laptop in favor of this. I will use an older desktop for my primary PC, should I need anything.
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Ars Technica just posted theirs: Ars reviews the Motorola Xoom
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I love mine, thats what I primarily use it for and its perfect for it. Fun to use, very quick. No complaints (even without flash and microsd)
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Ars Technica just posted theirs: Ars reviews the Motorola Xoom
Best and most useful review I've read BY FAR.
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I for one would love to hear some of the discussions taking place within Google and Motorola based on the reviews being posted about the Xoom, both the good and the bad. I would speculate that these reviews are creating a sense of urgency to deliver the announced but unreleased features, at least I hope so.

Sadly, I don't think the same sense of urgency is being created within the halls at Verizon or Adobe, which is disheartening, but maybe I'm wrong.

Anyway I'm hoping this is positive for all of us early adopters.
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Anything this new is found to be riddle with bugs. It also appears Motorola and Google rushed the Doom out to beat the ipad2. I'm pretty sure Google and Motorola are working on the issues on the Doom as we speak. Most of those are going under bug tests to make sure they work.

Being an early adoptor means you're gonna have to deal with all the bugs and not alot off apps. If you think Google or Motorola is not moving fast enough don't buy anything this new.
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this is dead on correct. they hammered the galaxy tab for being a blown up phone but they sure didn't say the same thing about ipad which is exactly the same thing. nor did those sites hammer the ipad when it came out for its lack of tablet specific apps but the xoom sure got it.
There were 2000 iPad apps available the day before the iPad was released.
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And how many of those were useful? How many do you use every day?

Numbers of apps means nothing. What they do and how useful they are is what matters.
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Maybe my tone did not come through in the post, I do have a XOOM and am looking forward to the upgrades. My intent with the post was not to question if they are working on the updates but rather how might Google and Motorola be reacting to the news. Also I would expect someone around here to have some "friends" on the inside and what the insiders are saying about the reviews and reactions to it.
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I don't find honeycomb to be that buggy. iOS has its share of bugs crashes etc depending on the apps you run. I think in a week I've had one crash on Honeycomb.

As far as the Xoom being unfinished true but both features 4g and flash they are going to add are not even going to be available on ipad2. So the bloggers etc that keep hammering that probably work for Apple.

I find Honeycomb smooth and more elegant than iOS. So I just don't get the half baked statements of many of the blog sites. For the record I switched from ipad to Xoom and still have an iphone 4.
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I'm all about android and was hoping the xoom would be a good buy. After playing with it for a while I can't justify the cost until it improves. I'm guessing we are 6 months out. Maybe less with the dev community.
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And how many of those were useful? How many do you use every day?

Numbers of apps means nothing. What they do and how useful they are is what matters.
Nailed with with this post. Apps make the tablet.

I sold my galaxy tab(loved it but no netflix) and bought a used ipad. After a quick jailbreak I'm golden. If the xoom had a handful of solid apps I would be in. Netflix alone makes a used ipad a better buy at this point but xoom will catch up quickly.

I will say that I really miss being able to easily add and remove files from the galaxy tab. Very different experience on the ipad.
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Anything this new is found to be riddle with bugs. It also appears Motorola and Google rushed the Doom out to beat the ipad2. I'm pretty sure Google and Motorola are working on the issues on the Doom as we speak. Most of those are going under bug tests to make sure they work.

Being an early adoptor means you're gonna have to deal with all the bugs and not alot off apps. If you think Google or Motorola is not moving fast enough don't buy anything this new.
I don't think so, not any different than other first releases. Remember the pad didn't have multitask and folders from the onset. Did they rush?
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Where are all these bugs coming from I have very few. Are people running apps that are not yet modified for honeycomb and considering there lack of performance, fc's bugs?
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You are not reading me correct, I said - Screen, screen and screen. Xoom is behind even on ipad1 with screen to my eyes and fingers. Touch screen response on iPad is two head above even now before iPad2. All other items not as important as this. Waiting one week is nothing in compare with unknown waiting period on Xoom. I need Netflix today and I am talking on Skype lot, why should I wait and for how long? So, don't troll me out I am out anyway
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. The screen maybe higher res but it def looks cheap to the eye. It's weird how I can see the borders of each pixel. The text on the homescreen are a bit off too like looking at website at 90%.
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Where are all these bugs coming from I have very few. Are people running apps that are not yet modified for honeycomb and considering there lack of performance, fc's bugs?

Agreed. I've seen fewer bugs with my Xoom and various apps than I've seen with my DroidX which had a restarting issue at one point and has an intermittent tendency to change ring-tones when it feels like it as well as the infamous "no sound on phone calls" a couple of times.

I've had no issues (bugs) with the Xoom at all. Oh wait...one thing Barcode Scanner doesn't want to work very well. It seems it won't lock in on the bar or QR codes .. particularly on-screen.
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Screen? I thinks it's awesome very nice to the eyes, smooth. If you think the screen is bad you either got a bad one or need to see an eye doctor.
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What happens if you have; say 10 Web Pages and 10 apps running at the same time, does the system start to slow down. Can anyone test this? At what point does the response become sluggish?
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I think they automatically close programs. The longest running goes down first, I think. But with the browser, I've had many many tab open and it never refrehed. But the bwowser closed once when I had way to many apps going. Not sure what the threshold is?
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So does the Xoom use data while not in active use. I mean if you have the 1gig Vz plan and say you left it over night charging will it be using the data? Or does the entire device hibernate.
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