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Old March 14th, 2011, 12:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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not sure if im using the right terminology, but im basically looking for something like phonemypc, but that HAS sound. I want a way to get my htpc screen on the xoom, so i can play movies from the htpc on my xoom with sound. (not sure if it matters, but the movies are all 1080p mkv's.) i also want to be able to display this out via hdmi out. and i want it all to work with correct aspect ratio's and whatnot.

What is the BEST app for this. I dont care how much it costs (seriously, if it works perfectly id pay any price)

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splashtop is easy and works on the xoom...you dont have to set up port forwarding if your using the same network....
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yeah, i would only b using this app remotely, as in NOT in my home network.

checking out splashtop now
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Pocket Cloud Pro has sound. You can download Pocket Cloud Lite to try it out, but the Lite version has no sound.

I use the Lite version and I think it's great.
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I use PlayOn there is a beta script out there that will allow you to view files on your computer I have .mkv movies and they stream great. and you get all the benefits of PlayOn. (hulu, netflix, tv.com etc) you need flash on your xoom the official one from adobe is coming out on Friday but there is a working one somewhere listed on the forums.
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Or maybe try LogMeIn?
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iv gone back and forth w playon, but ultimately i dont want to pay a sub fee, and i would rather buy a app that would let me get the whole virtual pc experience even if im using it 90% of the time for movies alone.
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I use Pocket Cloud Lite on my Droid2, and have been happy with it. Planning on using it on the Xoom as well, and I'll probably upgrade to the full version.
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I use Pocket Cloud Lite on my Droid2, and have been happy with it. Planning on using it on the Xoom as well, and I'll probably upgrade to the full version.
Just curious, but how are you planning on getting around the lack of sound? VNC is required for a windows system and VNC has some kind of problem with sound. If you plan on using it with a MAC system, PC techies are troubleshooting sound problems on MAC's.
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Just curious, but how are you planning on getting around the lack of sound? VNC is required for a windows system and VNC has some kind of problem with sound. If you plan on using it with a MAC system, PC techies are troubleshooting sound problems on MAC's.
Well, I haven't had a reason to use sound so it hasn't been an issue. does sound not work if you're using their software running on your PC? They say sound works in the Pro version but as I said, hasn't been something I've needed.
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Well, I haven't had a reason to use sound so it hasn't been an issue. does sound not work if you're using their software running on your PC? They say sound works in the Pro version but as I said, hasn't been something I've needed.
No, sound will not function (on the Xoom side of things) when VNC is involved, some sort of limitation as I understand it. I would really like to find another option/program which includes sound. Got any suggestions?
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ok, i went with logmein... i know it wasnt really recommended here, but i decided to go w something that has universal support on ios as well as android and pc's... its ok, and it does do what i need for it purposes, but it is a little jittery, and the way the screen refreshes in big blocks streaming video is beyond useless... if i cant get anything that will be good enough to stream video, logmein will work fine for me, but i may consider something else if anyone has had success streaming video.

anyone?

oh, and logmein does play sound flawlessly
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ok, i went with logmein... i know it wasnt really recommended here, but i decided to go w something that has universal support on ios as well as android and pc's... its ok, and it does do what i need for it purposes, but it is a little jittery, and the way the screen refreshes in big blocks streaming video is beyond useless... if i cant get anything that will be good enough to stream video, logmein will work fine for me, but i may consider something else if anyone has had success streaming video.

anyone?

oh, and logmein does play sound flawlessly

Just sound wouldn't cut it for me as I am also into this for the streaming video possibilities as well. Post back if you find something will ya?
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Just sound wouldn't cut it for me as I am also into this for the streaming video possibilities as well. Post back if you find something will ya?
Out of curiosity, what are you trying to stream, and why would you use this method to do so (rather than dvdcat's home media server option or something similar)?
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Out of curiosity, what are you trying to stream, and why would you use this method to do so (rather than dvdcat's home media server option or something similar)?
That's a good program however it doesn't work on all dvd's, so I'm looking for an alternative to work with those dvd's.
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Deosnt dvdcats server just work on ur network? I'm trying to stream remotley and I'd rather bundle that into my remote desktop app. But if its not possible ill just look into something like orb if I get around to it (this isn't really the priority)
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Honestly the best streaming I've found is using playing. It's easy to set up and works well for streaming content off my pc
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Do u mean playon? (I assume so because it just tried to autocorrect playon to playing just now) and I don't c anything called playing in the market
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I'm using Remote Desktop, I paid $19 for it long time ago. Now I'm using it with xoom. With the xoom large screen, I turned off the "Touch Pad" feature. Now Iafter I connect to my PC, it makes my xoom function like a windows 7 PC':-)
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Deosnt dvdcats server just work on ur network? I'm trying to stream remotley and I'd rather bundle that into my remote desktop app. But if its not possible ill just look into something like orb if I get around to it (this isn't really the priority)
Well, I just determined that using Remote Desktop on the Windows system is pretty useless. I just combined Pocket Cloud and RDP on my Windows 7 Professional and it's soooo choppy it's ridiculous. Oh yea, and you have to have W7 Professional or Ultimate, or one of the other Windows OS's that are the Professional/Ultimate v's, such as XP Professional/Ultimate, in order to be able to have Remote Desktop. It will not function (or I guess it isn't even there) with other versions of Windows.


??? What do you mean by "dvdcats server" ???
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I'm using Remote Desktop, I paid $19 for it long time ago. Now I'm using it with xoom. With the xoom large screen, I turned off the "Touch Pad" feature. Now Iafter I connect to my PC, it makes my xoom function like a windows 7 PC':-)

Using the RDP on your Windows system is pretty choppy isn't it? Is sure is when I'm using Pocket Cloud. So if it isn't choppy, how was it that you set it up (settings within this Remote Desktop App for Android I mean)?
Oh and if you think its relevant, the settings on the RDP on your Windows box as well. Thanks.
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dvdcatalyst is a member here and the dev of a video conversion sw for converting video to xoom friendly formats (or any format really). he set up a server as well for ppl that use his sw so they could stream the converted files over their home network. (or something lke that) its in this thread http://androidforums.com/motorola-xoom/288644-how-you-watching-movies-6.html#post2475545

im pretty sure apps like logmein can work on all pc's, and it requires absolutley NO setup beyond installing the app on any device u want to use, and u can access the pc from ANY web brower. and im not sure what ur looking for, but logmein is still a little jerkey, and the resolution is crap, but it does get the job done if u dont care about aesthetics.
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dvdcatalyst is a member here and the dev of a video conversion sw for converting video to xoom friendly formats (or any format really). he set up a server as well for ppl that use his sw so they could stream the converted files over their home network. (or something lke that) its in this thread http://androidforums.com/motorola-xoom/288644-how-you-watching-movies-6.html#post2475545

im pretty sure apps like logmein can work on all pc's, and it requires absolutley NO setup beyond installing the app on any device u want to use, and u can access the pc from ANY web brower. and im not sure what ur looking for, but logmein is still a little jerkey, and the resolution is crap, but it does get the job done if u dont care about aesthetics.
I'll say that DVD Catalyst is one of THE best programs I've run across in a long, long time! I use that to convert DVD's to .MP4 files, then I can copy them to any device in my house (Win 7 systems, my Droid X, my daughter's Ipad 2 {I know, I know} or my soon-to-be-received Xoom. However, I've found it's easier to copy the MP4 files to my NAS drive, then use DVD Catalyst FREE (at least currently) video streamer to stream any videos I want, to wherever I want (local wifi or over the internet), even to my Droid X! (I do that at my fiance's house, then use the HDMI out to watch on her large flat screen.) I know he's working on an upgraded version of his media server to make it more complete, but what is there works, and works well.

His customer service is simply unbeatable, as well.

I would highly recommend to anyone that's interested in streaming videos to at least check it out. And DVD Catalyst is a great program for making your digital files. His site is at:

DVD Catalyst 4 | Tools4Movies - Home of DVD Catalyst

*Not associated with him or his company, just a very satisfied customer!
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dvdcatalyst is a member here and the dev of a video conversion sw for converting video to xoom friendly formats (or any format really). he set up a server as well for ppl that use his sw so they could stream the converted files over their home network. (or something lke that) its in this thread http://androidforums.com/motorola-xoom/288644-how-you-watching-movies-6.html#post2475545

im pretty sure apps like logmein can work on all pc's, and it requires absolutley NO setup beyond installing the app on any device u want to use, and u can access the pc from ANY web brower. and im not sure what ur looking for, but logmein is still a little jerkey, and the resolution is crap, but it does get the job done if u dont care about aesthetics.
Yes I knew who he is and about his great program, I purchased a copy :-) but I didn't know anything about him setting up a server for streaming for his customers. I've pretty much determined that streaming video over a RDP connection is a worthless endeavor. I've given up on it.
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Do u mean playon? (I assume so because it just tried to autocorrect playon to playing just now) and I don't c anything called playing in the market
Yes I did. Sorry I usually catch those.
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Well, it's definitely NOT Splashtop. Works fine within the same wifi network. But what they don't tell you is that it is impossible to use remotely over the Internet if you have a VPN. Had my IT guy work on setting it up, tinkered with router and firewall settings to no avail. Documentation sucks. Splashtop tech support finally said it was a "known issue."
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I really want to use LogMeIn because I use it on my desktops, but god**** $29.99 is insanely expensive for such an app in my opinion.
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yeah, and the more i use it, im kinda getting fed up w the user experience... the choppiness and low res makes simple tasks like scrolling through web pages a nightmare (thats on the web desktop version, the xoom actually has a slightly better scrolling experience believe it or not)
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I really want to use LogMeIn because I use it on my desktops, but god**** $29.99 is insanely expensive for such an app in my opinion.
LogMeIn is such an awesome app. Yes, $30 is expensive but it eliminates the need to set anything up. I used to use PocketCloud and it was great but we recently switched to Comcast Business Class and they added a router/modem to our network. Figuring out the ports and IP's and everything else to set up RD was not worth it. I installed LMI and it worked immediately.

On my home computer, my wife will sometimes sit down and start working on the computer (browsing the internet). She won't even realize logmein is in full-screen and she is actually browsing through my work computer.

On my Droid Incredible, it works OK. The scrolling is a bit weird and you either move the screen or the mouse. Neither is perfect. Because I purchased it on my phone, I can dl it on my Xoom and the interface looks different. You can click on things by just touching them...the mouse instantly moves to where you touched.

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I agree that LogMeIn is a great application and I use it frequently on my desktop to help my dad process reports because it's a lot easier than going to his house to do it, along with diagnosing various problems. However, the fact that the desktop version is basically free and the fact that on a tablet this is more of an application of convenience rather than necessity make the $30 even harder to swallow.
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I hear ya... I want the slingbox app but won't pay $30 for it. I own a business so I can justify the cost easier. Its also a write-off. :-)
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I am happy with my Pocket Cloud trials on both Xoom and iPad 2. I care not about sound because I use it for server admin. It has VMware support which might be significant for some.
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I cannot for the life of me get pocket cloud to work for me. I get as far as the VNC pw and it tries to connect then fails out
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I had the same problem with Pocket Cloud and Splashtop. LogMeIn at least works. I guess you get what you pay for.
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I had that problem originally- can't remember what I did now. I think I had had VNC installed incorrectly- I re-installed it and made sure I knew the password I had set. Make sure you also have ports forwarded if needed, and firewall openings for the application. Are you using Pocket Cloud's software on your PC for auto detection? There's a tester built into it that'll tell you if VNC or RDP connections will work, it's very helpful.
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Ooh really? Do you get it for free if you paid for the pro version?
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Ooh really? Do you get it for free if you paid for the pro version?
i woudnt see why not..... check in the market. i dont have the pro
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Yeah just needed to update it. Awesome much more tablet friendly now!
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Yeah just needed to update it. Awesome much more tablet friendly now!

do you get sound?
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Well I had Pro before so that wouldn't change with the update. I haven't tried actually, but I've heard the sound won't work because of VNC, not because of the client. What would you want the sound for? Cause just FYI but it's definitely not realstic to watch video through the app if that's what you were thinking.
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Well I had Pro before so that wouldn't change with the update. I haven't tried actually, but I've heard the sound won't work because of VNC, not because of the client. What would you want the sound for? Cause just FYI but it's definitely not realstic to watch video through the app if that's what you were thinking.
call me what ya want but i do like playing some facebook games.. Also netflix, since there is no app
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SplashTop with WoLandroid to turn your computer on from anywhere. Works great.
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woldroid only works on your own network right?
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call me what ya want but i do like playing some facebook games.. Also netflix, since there is no app
PlayOn is a *way* better option for Netflix than watching over a remote connections. Have you tried watching over a remote connection? It's just not intended for watching video. You might be able to get away with playing games, but I think even that will be too frustrating.
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Great thread guys. I'm using PlayOn now and it's worked well for Netflix, etc. However, desktop support would be grand. However, it sounds like Wyse Pro and LogMeIn aren't quite there yet. I'm using a Xoom and Win7 Ultimate 64bit. It's that 64bit that usually causes problems. I'll have to test them out over the weekend and see how things go. Will report back.
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nycebo, I have win7 64 bit as well, and am using Pocket Cloud with no problems. What problems are you having?
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nycebo, I have win7 64 bit as well, and am using Pocket Cloud with no problems. What problems are you having?
None so far. Haven't tried it yet. I was just giving the customary hrmpf when talking about expectations getting some programs to work on 64 bit boxes.

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