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Old March 17th, 2011, 08:35 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Considering all of the crappy sub $200 android tablets, the Velocity Micros, the eLocilty A7s, the hacked Nooks, and the Galaxy Tabs, , I wouldn't be surprised by a shift in market share.

Forget about eating crow a year from now. Which one of you are going to eat crow today after supporting these smug, inaccurate points in this forum about 2010 sales numbers?
Interesting that you think "crappy sub $200 android tablets, the Velocity Micros, the eLocilty A7s, the hacked Nooks, and the Galaxy Tabs" could take market share away from the ipad.

Yes, I know that there will always be people that will go for the least expensive option, but market share IS market share.
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Considering all of the crappy sub $200 android tablets, the Velocity Micros, the eLocilty A7s, the hacked Nooks, and the Galaxy Tabs, , I wouldn't be surprised by a shift in market share.

Forget about eating crow a year from now. Which one of you are going to eat crow today after supporting these smug, inaccurate points in this forum about 2010 sales numbers?
Do you think every Android phone that took 1/3 of the market share from Blackberry and iOS in a YEAR were all top end devices? They were numerous devices high AND low end. So yeah, back track, run your mouth, and make excuses. You clearly don't like Androids marketing strategy for the main reason that it is different than Apples.
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If you are going to compare sales of a $99 resistive screen, android tablet running android 1.6 to the ipad, shouldn't you also compare "buy one, get four free" dumb phones to the HTC Thunderbolt? Of course not.

New smart phones all cost around $99-$299. Tablets cost $99 to $799. If manufacturers want to capture the market by selling crappy $99 tablets, there's nothing really anyone can do to stop them.
YOU made the comparison, not me. But like I said, market share is market share. If they buy the "$200 piece of crap" rather than the ipad, then that is taking market share away from Apple by definition.
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How can u own a android phone but hate a xoom, that's just weird.
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I was actually quite glad to hear about the sales is underwhelming. It is a signal for all of us sent to Motorola they can't just rip people off like that =)
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How can u own a android phone but hate a xoom your just a straight up wierdo

Or on someone's payroll....

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How can u own a android phone but hate a xoom, that's just weird.
Same way as owning a Ford but hating the Mustang. Not weird at all.
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in other news, rumor has it sprint may get the moto xoom as well as a moto atrix (would be re named possibly)

Sprint branded Motorola Xoom finds its way onto the internet | Android Central

could help sales overall for the xoom...
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Well time will tell, the iPhone on Verizon wasn't jumping off the shelves but it turned out OK.
 
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Any ideas which model of Xoom will sell best 3g/4g or the wifi only.
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Any ideas which model of Xoom will sell best 3g/4g or the wifi only.
Does it matter?
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Does it matter?
Only in the sense of how it effects sales, I'm guessing a temporary increase in sales because of the different version and the cost but where I'm lost is the ratio between wifi only and 3g/4g sales.
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Another question is whether the Wi-Fi only can be upgraded to 4G. I think it can based on what I saw which was that the 3g/4g is just an internal plugin card.
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Another question is whether the Wi-Fi only can be upgraded to 4G. I think it can based on what I saw which was that the 3g/4g is just an internal plugin card.
That might create a strange PR situation.
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I hate to break it to you chief but you are wrong. Apples ipad market share fell from 93% to 73% in the fourth quarter of 2010 with the Samsung Galaxy Tab accounting for 17%. So if the lowly Galaxy Tab could take 17% from Apple what do you think is going to happen when the market has a few top spec honeycomg tablets? That's right, the same thing that's happened in the smartphone space. Come back here at the of 2011 to eat your crow.
Galaxy tab was and is a huge flop. They said they moved 1-2 million units but never sold a fraction of those. That means you probably have a million units sitting on shelves. Most experts think Apple will hold about a 70% share for the next couple of years and move 30-40 million tablets this year.
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Galaxy tab was and is a huge flop. They said they moved 1-2 million units but never sold a fraction of those. That means you probably have a million units sitting on shelves. Most experts think Apple will hold about a 70% share for the next couple of years and move 30-40 million tablets this year.
So lets do the math. In 2010 they had 90% market share and sold 15 million units. In 2011 the"experts" say that their market share will drop to 70% and sell 30-40 million tablets. Since those same "experts" you are quoting predict a total of 25 million tablets sold in 2011 your math seems a good bit off. Sorry, not going to happen.

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Any ideas which model of Xoom will sell best 3g/4g or the wifi only.
The wifi only model will likely outsell the 3g/4g model by a large margin. The wifi only model is $200 cheaper and will be available for purchase buy a much larger pool of potential buyers since it will be available at Amazon, Costco, Best Buy, Staples, Wal-Mart, Radio Shack, Sams Club, and many other online stores. The 3g/4g model is only currently available from Verizon, Best Buy and Wirefly but may be available from ATT and Sprint later in the year. The "expert analysts" predict that Motorola will sell around 2 million Xoom's this year with the majority being the wifi only model.
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The wifi only model will likely outsell the 3g/4g model by a large margin. The wifi only model is $200 cheaper and will be available for purchase buy a much larger pool of potential buyers since it will be available at Amazon, Costco, Best Buy, Staples, Wal-Mart, Radio Shack, Sams Club, and many other online stores. The 3g/4g model is only currently available from Verizon, Best Buy and Wirefly but may be available from ATT and Sprint later in the year. The "expert analysts" predict that Motorola will sell around 2 million Xoom's this year with the majority being the wifi only model.

Lot of misinformation in this. For example I bought my Xoom at costco and got it a wi-fi + 3G model upgradeable to 4G for $649 + a $35 rebate on the activation fee. (yes I did sign up for a data plan but I was going to anyway - I could have gotten another $50 off for a bigger data plan).
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Lot of misinformation in this. For example I bought my Xoom at costco and got it a wi-fi + 3G model upgradeable to 4G for $649 + a $35 rebate on the activation fee. (yes I did sign up for a data plan but I was going to anyway - I could have gotten another $50 off for a bigger data plan).
Ah, forgot that Costco had the 3G/4G version. So you got the 2 year contract price correct? The information is still accurate as anyone getting the wifi only mode is doing so because they either don't need 3G/4G or dont want a crontract. In either case the wifi only model is still $200 (or more depending on sales) cheaper than a 3G/4G model with no contract.
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Ah, forgot that Costco had the 3G/4G version. So you got the 2 year contract price correct? The information is still accurate as anyone getting the wifi only mode is doing so because they either don't need 3G/4G or dont want a crontract. In either case the wifi only model is still $200 (or more depending on sales) cheaper than a 3G/4G model with no contract.
I got a 2 year contract, but it was "graduated" as far as the discount, more GB/month more discount. I got $150 off for the 3G/month plan.

It would have been $200 off = the same $$ as the wi-fi price if the plan was 4G or 8G/mo
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I got a 2 year contract, but it was "graduated" as far as the discount, more GB/month more discount. I got $150 off for the 3G/month plan.

It would have been $200 off = the same $$ as the wi-fi price if the plan was 4G or 8G/mo
What data plan did you get and what is the cost?
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The standard Verizon 3gb/mo plan $35. But I really am not using it so far as I have Wi-fi at home and work and have not been out and about with it much.
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Lot of misinformation in this. For example I bought my Xoom at costco and got it a wi-fi + 3G model upgradeable to 4G for $649 + a $35 rebate on the activation fee. (yes I did sign up for a data plan but I was going to anyway - I could have gotten another $50 off for a bigger data plan).
Which Costco ? I was at one recently and the cost was $789.00.
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Which Costco ? I was at one recently and the cost was $789.00.
True if you don't purchase the Verizon data plan. (did you read what I posted. ).
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True if you don't purchase the Verizon data plan. (did you read what I posted. ).
Your post was somewhat turbid.
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