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Pink Floyd is my favorite band. I am more of a fan of the first fifteen albums after Roger Waters left I felt it became more the Gilmour band and less of Pink Floyd. All my current ringtones and notifications are currently Pink Floyd From Piper to The Final Cut. I will post more as time permits
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Syd Barrett and Roger Waters initially Started the band and Syd had a deep dark secret that didn't stay secret for very long while on tour for the first album he had trouble playing through complete songs so he ended up calling in a buddy of his to "help" him out his buddy was David Gilmour. By the time the band made it to the studio for their second album A saucerful of Secrets Barret was pretty much Gone. His mental illness mixed with his drug addiction had him to far gone to do any serious music. David became a permanent member of the band. And the rest is history.
One of my favourite albums from the band I feel was really in the peak of the band and its Atom Heart Mother. I think that this is the album that really defines the band as a musical powerhouse. The Album cover was simplistic by the bands request they didn't want anything that was "labeling" so they ended up with a picture of just a cow. And the Album cover ended up as a picture of just a Cow. No Labels Not Artist Name, Nothing. The Actual Name Atom Heart Mother came from a news paper Clipping about a mother who was given a Pace Maker. While the Album and The "Song" had nothing to do with the Article it certainly had something to do with the direction the group was going.
I want this thread to be a honest thread so why do you like/dislike Pink Floyd. Please keep it RESPECTFUL. Also feel free to exchange ringtones, notifications, wallpapers, splashscreens, bootanimations, and so on.
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Wow 129 views and not one person has even said like yeah floyd rocks or anything. hmmmm I was hoping for a bit more response than this. Guess the jokes on me. Oh well not the first time not the last still will not discourage me from honouring the Greatest Band Ever. Even if it is to myself
Well, we all know the Floyd is one of the all time great bands. The album that made me noticed them the most was The Dark Side of the Moon 1973, when it first came out. But back in those days, they wasn't considered my all time favorite band either.
Just my thoughts!
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Yes Dark Side spent more time on the top 200 than any other album in history. I don't remember the total time but I do believe it was close to 20 years and to think the band never won a gramy for the album either.
Wow 129 views and not one person has even said like yeah floyd rocks or anything. hmmmm I was hoping for a bit more response than this. Guess the jokes on me. Oh well not the first time not the last still will not discourage me from honouring the Greatest Band Ever. Even if it is to myself
Still my favorite concert, by far. Saw them in either '88 or '89, @ the L.A. Coliseum. Was pleasantly surprised as to how well the music played in a concert/arena setting.
No one else has come close to that performance,AWESOME!
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My old man turned me onto the Floyd when I was in Jr. High, and I've been hooked since!!
I wanted to go see the Pulse tour, but the old man thought I was still a little too young at the time. I was already smoking...ERR...enjoying the "finer" things in life by then, unbeknownst to him. LOL
Still rock out to the Floyd on a very regular basis.
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I love darkside of course as everyone does but I really think my favorite album is Atom Heart Mother. It never gets old
They have had such an impact with their music I love the fact that if they wanted to do a song they did it rather it was "Country" or "Rock" based they could do it and not be questioned about why? It was accepted and loved
Good call! I thought it was only me liked AHM - even the band don't like it. Been a Pink Floyd fan since I first heard DSOM in a mates car. He had just insalled the latest hifi system (cassette of course, it was 1974) and Time just blew me away.
Since then I've listened to just about everything they've done and love it all.
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Was listening to Sirius all weekend as they are promoting the upcoming Pink Floyd station due to start on June 29th. Definitely one of the greatest bands during my lifetime, that has no doubt withstood the test of time.
My favorite album - Meddle
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Ummagumma...Does anyone like or can understand what Sysyphus, parts 2,3 and 4 are about? Just sounds like a load of screeching and banging of instruments to me. A Saucer Full of Secrets (live) now that's bloody awesome, especially the organ.
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Was listening to Sirius all weekend as they are promoting the upcoming Pink Floyd station due to start on June 29th. Definitely one of the greatest bands during my lifetime, that has no doubt withstood the test of time.
My favorite album - Meddle
I'm actually listening to all 24 minutes of Echoes on the cans as I make this post. It's still my favourite Floyd track.
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Another huge floyd fan here, was so lucky to see them at Live 8.. I've also seen Waters' Dark Side tour and Gilmour on his On an Island tour... loved all of them.
My favourite album changes from time to time but usually I'm listening to anything from meddle up, also love the various live albums. My favourite song is Time but Echoes and SOYCD are right up there too
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Your favourite version of a PF Song? (Doesn't have to be your favourite song)
"Fat Old Sun" as played by David Gilmour during his 2008 tour.
Or maybe "Comfortably Numb" as played by Pink Floyd (sans Waters, good riddance) during their 1986 tour. "The mirror ball, the mirror ball..."
I really can't compare an audio track to the experience of what was arguably PF's finest tour ever. That stage, those hovering leviathans spewing out unbelievable light patterns, Rachel Fury in a "Pan Am" style stewardess outfit, David Gilmour staring me right in the face as he played, and that mirror ball... So much more than just a tune, that.
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Another huge floyd fan here, was so lucky to see them at Live 8.. I've also seen Waters' Dark Side tour and Gilmour on his On an Island tour... loved all of them.
Personally I don't miss Waters one bit. I don't care for much of his contributions after Wish You Were Here, and find it hard to forgive his behavior before he left the group.
I got to see David Gilmour on tour supporting his first two solo albums, and got to see Pink Floyd in four separate venues in 1986. I saw them live one last time at RFK Stadium in DC in 1994. That tour couldn't hold a candle to the Momentary Lapse tour, though.
My deepest regret was missing Gilmour's last tour with Rick Wright, right before he passed away. Wright was by far the second biggest contributor to the group's music, and a peerless musician in general. I think his "Wet Dream" album is as fresh today as it was back in 1978 when I first heard it.
Sadly my concert-T collection that I was saving to mount and frame was thrown out by a stupid person. I still have trinkets from the '86 and '94 tours. I even have a pin from Peter Gabriel's tour supporting his third "Peter Gabriel" album. Can't believe that I wore that on a jacket over a decade of wild situations and didn't lose it!
Sadly my concert-T collection that I was saving to mount and frame was thrown out by a stupid person. I still have trinkets from the '86 and '94 tours. I even have a pin from Peter Gabriel's tour supporting his third "Peter Gabriel" album. Can't believe that I wore that on a jacket over a decade of wild situations and didn't lose it!
Nice! Most of my concert shirts are from Type O Negative shows over the years. RIP Peter Steele...
Personally I don't miss Waters one bit. I don't care for much of his contributions after Wish You Were Here, and find it hard to forgive his behavior before he left the group.
I got to see David Gilmour on tour supporting his first two solo albums, and got to see Pink Floyd in four separate venues in 1986. I saw them live one last time at RFK Stadium in DC in 1994. That tour couldn't hold a candle to the Momentary Lapse tour, though.
My deepest regret was missing Gilmour's last tour with Rick Wright, right before he passed away. Wright was by far the second biggest contributor to the group's music, and a peerless musician in general. I think his "Wet Dream" album is as fresh today as it was back in 1978 when I first heard it.
You don't like Animals, the Wall or Final Cut? He practically wrote all 3 on his own. His solo albums are amazing too, different to Floyd but Amused to Death is as good as anything by Floyd, most of which he wrote. I love all the members of Floyd but Waters was without a doubt the largest contributor Lyrically and Musically... he was a control freak and probably not a nice guy to work with but that made Floyd the monster they were.
My only chance to see Floyd was in Germany in the 70's and for some reason wasn't able to go. I always regretted it but I've been listening to them for almost 40 years. Still the best band and music out there.
I never said I didn't like them. They can't hold a candle to Wish You Were Here and Dark Side, though. Previous and subsequent PF albums were more musical and joyful. Waters was not a good musician then, and the only saving grace was Gilmour and Wright's skills. By "Animals", Waters' lyrics were so deeply unhappy and bitter that they dragged everything else down.
Back then I was young we listened because it was Pink Floyd and Pink Floyd was great. But as I matured and became truly honest with myself, I had to admit that I wished that I could edit the Waters part out of the later PF stuff. I even said that I wish that, when it seemed like PF was over, that they would have fired Waters not Wright. When the group came back in '86 with the lineup that I wanted, my friends thought I was a prophet! (It was only a very happy coincidence however.)
Think of it this way, what is the most memorable part of the Waters period? David Gilmour's guitar solo from "Comfortably Numb". That's one tune off an entire double album!
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Yes, that's the problem. Waters was a bully. He didn't let others contribute, then berated them for not contributing. Gilmour's solo album of '78, and especially Wright's of the same year show the caliber of musical talent that Waters was driving away from Pink Floyd. I'll take tunes like "Raise my Rent" and "Funky Deux" over the last remix of "Raving and Drooling" and "You Gotta Be Crazy" any day.
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His solo albums are amazing too...
You're entitled to your opinion, of course. I'll let the album sales numbers and concert attendance at the Pink Floyd trio concerts vs. Waters' solo concerts speak for themselves.
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I love all the members of Floyd but Waters was without a doubt the largest contributor Lyrically and Musically.
We'll have to agree to disagree on that. I can't imagine a successful Pink Floyd without Gilmour or Wright; I have seen a successful Pink Floyd without Waters.
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(Waters) was a control freak and probably not a nice guy to work with but that made Floyd the monster they were.
No, Waters' truly cruel and hateful abuse of his bandmates was a destructive force. No good at all came of it. Rick Wright was a sensitive guy, as good musicians tend to be. Waters' nasty and very personal attacks hurt Wright more than any physical beating could. I blame Waters for making Wright's poor health worse, leading to his early death. It takes a special kind of asshole to have made a fortune off of a former bandmate's mental illness and then go kick another while he was down.*
*Syd Barrett suffered from an undiagnosed mental illness, probably schizophrenia. Richard Wright was suffering from clinical depression in the late '70s and early '80s, related to his working conditions with PF, and the decay of his marriage at the same time. Barret died of natural causes in 2006. Schizophrenics tend to have a shorter lifespan. Wright died of cancer in 2008. The type of cancer and when it was first diagnosed hasn't been made public.
Although I do agree with some of the things you say, I don't want to appear to be siding with Waters over Gilmour or Wright as I can't imagine Floyd without either, I enjoyed the Final Cut but without Rick it didn't seem like a Floyd album. Some of the things you say I see from a different point of view.
You've said you would like to edit Waters out of later Floyd stuff, he wrote the stuff, without him there wouldn't be later stuff. I love MLOR and TDB but they were missing something, the difference between a good album and a great album. Neither album was a patch on anything Waters was involved in.
Waters has accepted recently that he was to blame for a lot of the things that happened, there's a video of him saying that if he could take it back he would but in his defence he was coming to the table with a full album, in the case of the wall he had two full album concepts with demo's.. the other guys didn't have anything.
I don't think of comfortably numb's guitar solo as the only highlight of the wall, I like all of it from the songs to the film to the stage show, all of which was Rogers concept. I think you see the music as the important part and I see the lyrics as the important part... he is dark no doubt but that is what was great about Floyd, the balance between weighty dark lyrics and beautiful uplifting music.
You say that "I have seen a successful Pink Floyd without Waters." but you haven't, on both tours Gilmours Pink Floyd played Rogers music, on the Division Bell album tour they played Dark Side of The Moon in full and more songs from the back catalogue than songs off division bell, while Guy Pratt might have been doing Rogers part (brilliantly) the lyrics, the stage show and the music is by waters so how is that a band leaving him behind?
Rick Wright died of Cancer, years after Waters had left Floyd, a while after they had performed again together which he said he loved.. his death was nothing to do with him, being depressed doesn't give you cancer. Also Syd Barratts mental illness was a defining moment for all the band, Shine on you crazy diamond as I'm sure you know is about him, he turned up during the making of it and was paid as a part of the band, it's natural that a writer would write about the defining things that have happened in his life.
Lastly you made a point about letting album sales and concert ticket sales speak for themselves, Justin Bieber sells out arenas all over the world and also a shed load of albums too... he's crap and I wont have any facts and figures tell me anything different. Waters might not have set the world on fire at the time but the pro's and cons could have been a Floyd album (was the other concept at the wall meetings) and amused to death is a beautiful piece of work.
I like the music regardless of ticket sales or who was in the band or anything else. Isn't that really what's it all about? The music. All the rest of the issues would only interest me if I had an investment in them.
Although I do agree with some of the things you say, I don't want to appear to be siding with Waters over Gilmour or Wright as I can't imagine Floyd without either...
It is a matter of opinion and personal choice, after all. I see Waters as the member of PF who brought too many of his personal demons to the group, and too little musicianship. You see it the other way around. At the risk of being branded a heretic, I'll say that Syd Barrett also failed the group with his drug experimentation gone horribly wrong. Sid was replaced and PF went on to be greater than ever with Dave.
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In many ways "The Final Cut" wasn't a Pink Floyd album. It was all about Roger and what Roger wanted, which is what tainted "The Wall" and "Animals" in lesser degrees. Musically it still had Gilmour, but his playing sounds half-hearted and less inspired. A lot of the backing tracks seemed to have been taken straight from the "The Wall" master tapes. But it lacked something. Pink wasn't there.
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You've said you would like to edit Waters out of later Floyd stuff, he wrote the stuff, without him there wouldn't be later stuff.
It's important that I said that as an idle desire, not a plan to get the albums remixed or anything like that. And since I got my wish, albeit a bit late I can say that I'm pleased with the outcome.
As I mentioned in my last post, both Gilmour and Wright were writing excellent music as solo artists. Clearly they were able to write for PF as well, if they had been free to do so. What's done is done, and it's pointless to speculate on an opportunity lost.
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I love MLOR and TDB but they were missing something, the difference between a good album and a great album. Neither album was a patch on anything Waters was involved in.
Again, you're entitled to your opinions, as am I. I think that any AOR band is lucky to have one really big album, and PF had two. I still play "Learning to Fly" and "Terminal Frost" a lot. Maybe they weren't the most memorable PF albums, but they were PF albums and did have some great tunes. I wouldn't say that a band that has matured over 25 years was "missing something".
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Waters has accepted recently that he was to blame for a lot of the things that happened, there's a video of him saying that if he could take it back he would but in his defence he was coming to the table with a full album, in the case of the wall he had two full album concepts with demo's.. the other guys didn't have anything.
Yes I've noticed that Waters is keen to rehabilitate his public image. But I haven't heard "I'm sorry", and have heard that off-camera he's still unrepentant.
I don't see how you can rightly call "The Wall" as a "defence" of Waters' poor behavior. It might as well have been a solo album. It would be interesting to find a parallel universe where "The Wall" was a Roger Waters album, and see how it sounds without any musical input from Gilmour, Mason and Wright. Since we cant, I'll point out that, even after firing and alienating Rick Wright, that Waters was forced to hire him as a salaried employee in order to pull it off. Because of that, Wright was the only one who made money from "The Wall".
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I think you see the music as the important part and I see the lyrics as the important part...
Yes, I'm a listener of music first and foremost. Pink Floyd was a musical band; their trademark sound came from their expert use of the recording studio to produce layered sounds and other innovative stuff. I don't care one bit to listen to Waters prattle on about "poor me, I lost my father in the war" over and over and over again. If that's your cup of tea, good for you.
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(Waters) is dark no doubt but that is what was great about Floyd, the balance between weighty dark lyrics and beautiful uplifting music.
My answer to this reworded version of your statement remains unchanged.
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You say that "I have seen a successful Pink Floyd without Waters." but you haven't...
You're free to believe what you want, but that's simply not true. I did see it with my very own eyes, heard it with my very own ears, several times.
While it's true that Waters had to play Pink Floyd music in order to turn a profit on his tours, Pink Floyd did NOT play Waters' solo material. Not once! Nor did they play any of the other PF members' solo work. Nice try, but no sale here.
Here's a suggestion: Since you're such a big Roger Waters fan, why not start up a new thread about Waters? You can defend him to your heart's content there, and leave this thread for people who want to discuss Pink Floyd without any divisiveness. I'm growing tired of setting the record straight; that's not why I check in here and I don't want to do it any more.
I like the music regardless of ticket sales or who was in the band or anything else. Isn't that really what's it all about? The music. All the rest of the issues would only interest me if I had an investment in them.
I agree that the music is the important part.
OTOH you must understand that Pink Floyd was a band that simply didn't speak to the press. A lot of the Pink Floyd story has been untold until just recently. So in this case there is a curiosity about all of the unknowns surrounding Pink Floyd.
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I can sum up your arguments very quickly
Pink Floyd would not be Pink Floyd with out everything that caused Pink Floyd to do what Pink Floyd Does. Had even 1 member of the band not played a intricate part then Pink Floyd would not have been.
I appreciate the enthusiasm however I did ask that we keep it all Floyd related and we keep it in HONOR of the band. No other group of people could pull off what Pink Floyd has done.
While I love the music of Roger Waters and do believe that his contribution to the band was not only the fuel that kept the flame going I do believe that his own since of Madness and Mortality had drove him to be what he became. A child throwing a temper tantrum. I also believe that Roger singled out Rick because he knew that Rick was really the only one in the band who could relate to Rogers Obscurity. Rick was also the only one that could have really been the blunt of Rogers insanity as Rick was the only one capable of handling it with the amount of humility that he did.
Rick Wright will forever be known as the humble and meek one. Nick mason is the only one who has never missed a Floyd show, David replaced Syd's cruelty and self destructive behavior. and Roger will always be known as the Madman who's own self destructive ways cost the band everything.
I would like to keep from continuing an argument here so would respectfully ask that all party's keep a respectful approach and move toward the intention of this thread which was designed to honor the music and not squabble about the band.
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Sadly my concert-T collection that I was saving to mount and frame was thrown out by a stupid person. I still have trinkets from the '86 and '94 tours. I even have a pin from Peter Gabriel's tour supporting his third "Peter Gabriel" album. Can't believe that I wore that on a jacket over a decade of wild situations and didn't lose it!
Hey you knew that stupid person too
I was able to keep 2 (Led Zeppelin MSG in 77 (my first show) ) and Kiss concert reunion tour back in 96/97 I have no other ones Girlfriend thought they were tacky and the only reason the two I have didnt suffer the same fate is because she didn't see them. I only sleep at night knowing that some people at the Salvation Army got a decent shirt/s. Please excuse me I have become angry over the whole situation again and I'll be the one over here: <--- this since I can't bang her head into the damned wall.
for a couple of guys who claim not to be friends they sure do hang out a lot
There's a great extended video of them before and after the show, spending time together and looking thick as thieves, seems like the awkwardness has gone now.. just can't find it but it's there on YouTube somewhere.
The amazing thing was how it came about, Gilmour asked Waters to play a charity gig with him and in return he would play one of his. Really gives me hope that we might see some form of collaboration between them, even if it was just one more song I'd be over the moon, doesn't even have to be under the Floyd banner.
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I first heard Pink Floyd when I was 7 and can pretty much say 43 years later that they are woven into the very fabric of my soul. There isn't anything they have performed that I dislike, although some really early stuff is a bit too strange even for a weirdo like me. Nevertheless (I love that word) I still regularly pop in a thumb drive with DSOM, Wish You Were Here and Animals on it and listen while dragging a few lures around the lake. Sheer bliss. Ha! Money just came on the radio! Must be an omen.
I am not on the level of fandom of you all in this thread but that gave me the chills. What a great moment!
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Everyone went nuts when Money started, one of my favourite versions of it. You can't really hear the crowd noise during the video but being there it was really loud, even little kids were singing along. Totally stole the show, nobody came close that day.
You could feel the uncomfortableness of it for them, especially at the end but for a little bit you could feel that they enjoyed it, the solo in money and during comfortably numb they just rocked it. It's the only time I got to see all 4 playing together as I was too young the first time around and I'm grateful I did. RIP Rick Wright, huge miss.
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I've been watching the opening ceremonies at the 2012 Olympiad in London, and have been noticing how much of the production has borrowed from Pink Floyd concerts. From the objects moving on suspended cables to the stuff coming up out of the floor, it looked like one big homage to PF.
And wouldn't you know it that after lighting the Olympic flame, that the various petals of the flame pivot up to make a giant flame to the tune of "Eclipse"!
For all PF fans who never got to see them in concert, that's as close as you're going to get to the real thing when it comes to the theatrics.
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I was born too late to appreciate Pink Floyd in their prime but I got into them when I was about middle school age in the mid '80s. I listened to it all from their early psychedelic more experimental stuff up through 'The Wall'. Decades later the albums I find myself coming back to are 'Meddle', 'Dark Side of The Moon' and 'Wish You Were Here'.
I am glad that I was old enough to see their 'Momentary Lapse of Reason' and 'Division Bell' tours. The production value was amazing. Other bands I've seen in large open air stadiums tend to get swallowed up by the large venue, Pink Floyd took the stadium over with the laser show, flying pig, etc.
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Thanks for both those wallpapers! Very nice. I used to have a bunch of junk that I bought at the Wish You Were Here tour back in '75, but like most of my brain cells I have lost all of them over the years. I do still have a worn lapel pin but unless you know what you are looking at you wouldn't recognize it as anything much. But I still remember what it is.
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/\ have this on puter in wide screen i think.
Nice speed.
will have more stuff later including some ringtones I've made. I will also do request for those as long as Paitence is a strong point for you as I am always busy.
Would love to get a live wallpaper of the hammers walking off the wall.
Just watched the story of wish you were here and really recommend it to everyone, love how Roger hates have a cigar and reckons he could've done it better Was also amazing hearing first hand from the band about Syd turning up during the recording of SOYCD.
yeah i seen them (roger waters dark side of the moon tour) in 2007 in las vegas at the MGM grand
I have seen a lot of different groups perform and that one was by far the best performance i have been to.
The cool thing was when he was playing the wall or parts of dark side of the moon the visuals/screen projector showed images of the modern day way and it was crazy how all the music fit in todays media just as well as it did 40-50 years ago.
I was blown away and almost felt like crying because i was so moved by his music (esp. when he played wish you were here) you could tell the song meant alot more to him than people like us...you could feel the emotions coming from him and his guitar.
simply wonderful
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Girlfriend thought they were tacky and the only reason the two I have didnt suffer the same fate is because she didn't see them. I only sleep at night knowing that some people at the Salvation Army got a decent shirt/s. Please excuse me I have become angry over the whole situation again and I'll be the one over here: 
<--- this since I can't bang her head into the damned wall.
