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Old January 28th, 2013, 02:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Musician PSY Gangnam Style Buy YouTube Views To Get Famous?

dailydot.com/entertainment/how-to-buy-youtube-views/

What did you guys think about this?

Did PSY GANGNAM Style really bought YouTube views from YTview for their video?

In order to get famouse?

OMG!

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Old January 28th, 2013, 05:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome, Rockers7254!

Ever since the Internet was turned over to the profit sector in 1995, people and businesses have been gaming the worldwide web for fun and profit. That's part and parcel of being in a commercial business environment.

Buying fame has been going on for a lot longer than the Internet has been in existence. The Internet has provided new tricks for this old dog.
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You know, over half the stuff on youtube I don't know how it becomes so popular. I know you can also pay youtube to promote your videos so it has the chance to be viewed by more people.

But I wouldn't be to surprised if he did something along those lines, if its true looks like it worked out for him haha
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Old March 10th, 2013, 12:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Payola is back!
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It wouldn't suprise me -____-
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I don't understand how it got so popular though.
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dailydot.com/entertainment/how-to-buy-youtube-views/

What did you guys think about this?

Did PSY GANGNAM Style really bought YouTube views from YTview for their video?

In order to get famouse?

OMG!

This is not news.

Go to Fiverr dot com (one of many) and for five dollars, you can buy YT views, FB likes and so forth. I just posted about a Wired magazine article that took a brief look at why a million hits might not be.

As for GS, no . . . there are millions of fools that seem to like things with no value.
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I think Gangnam Style's views are mostly legit. Why? just look at all the parodies people made of it in their OWN spare time, of their OWN free will (there's so goddamn many), so it must have been a very...inciting song. Also, PSY's already hella rich and famous in korea. He doesn't really need to blow up the Western world as an agenda. More like, if it happens, yay. if it doesn't, oh well for him.

Also, why would Youtube give him that super cool little dancing man icon next to views if they were all fake views? You'd think Google was bigger than that. Google doesn't need to give PSY fake views, but they can sure as hell benefit off of co-marketing with him...so who knows? Hahaha.
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You see, the United States grows through many, like a pubescent pre-teen...

For Example: 1960 - The Beatles. They were english, yet they are known around the world. It's like we went through different stage at that time, a english stage, Psy caught on and when the Korean/Japanese/Chinese stage came, they let loose. Hope you understand.
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I think Gangnam Style's views are mostly legit.
Also, when your views reach into the billions (with a B), it is completely unfeasible for many of those to be purchased.
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Payola is back!
It never really went away, someone pays one way or another.

Payola (for those that do not know) was a huge scandel back in the day and the laws likely still remain on the books. Simplified, Payola is where record companies paid radio stations to broadcast of recordings. Sometimes it was cash and sometimes it was drugs.

I know someone who was called on the carpet because Payola was suspected.

I guess with YT, you can pay the channel owners money to get hits if you are a creator and there is likely no laws against it. Should it be illegal? I cannot say.
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I think Gangnam Style's views are mostly legit.
I think people viewed the video, but how many liked what they saw, posted links because they wanted others to laugh at some fool on YT, or simply watched part of the video and gave up?

I watched part of the video and gave up. So I was one of those millions of viewers. If asked if the vid should be deleted, I would have voted YES! I am not a viewer the producers would like, but I did view part of it.

Remember, you can go to "fiverr dot com" or many other such sites and pay for hits, Facebook likes and Tweets. No problem generating millions of hits for almost no green.

How views are converted to cold, hard cash is the bottom line question. So many people are involved in deal it is hard to say who made what or how much.

Videos with hugh hits means something most people do not immediately understand. The channel owner likely makes money with a channel that gets a billion million gazillion hits. So (I am guessing) Gangnam Style made money without "selling" something.

Perhaps a deal with Pampers because he looks like his pants are full of something.

YT likely made money as well. Hts, views, tweets, likes and such represent money these days. If I posted a truly crappy video and it was viewed by millions upon millions of peoople, long green is comming my way, most likely.

No thank you, Mr. Gangnam Style. I'll stick with advanced frailing lessons, vintage commercials, illegally uploaded music I forgot about, TV theme songs and episodes; videos about ripping and thrashing on the Les Paul, cute kittens and cooking lessons, thank you very much.
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Also, when your views reach into the billions (with a B), it is completely unfeasible for many of those to be purchased.
But what constitutes a YT "view?" If I press the play button and then leave, is it a view? Does a page need refreshing? Automated tools . . . will they work? Should we differentiate between views and legitimate views?

Someone who knows could explain it to me. perhaps?

I can tell you this: with three or ten dozen PayPal payments and a day's work, I can pay for half 500+ million Face Book likes, no problem. Actually, with twenty PP payments, a billion hits, likes, views is not even a sewat breaking effort.

All I know for sure is a billion hits seems like a reasonable goal achievable with very little work these days and it is not limited to YT. There are ways to pay for ungodly numbers of hits for very little money. My guess is, if you see a "popular" video with lots of hits and few comments, it is likely only visited by robots.

UPDATE: I just found a site that charges $330.00 for 500,000 YT views. So I guess it is possible.

In the case of Gangham whatever, the video went viral and it was talked about extensively. So many people likely did visit, watched the silly effort and commented.
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That's interesting. I didn't realize there was a market for Facebook likes.

But at $330 per half million views, that's $660,000 per billion. I think if you can afford that, you really don't need to buy them.
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That's interesting. I didn't realize there was a market for Facebook likes.

But at $330 per half million views, that's $660,000 per billion. I think if you can afford that, you really don't need to buy them.
Your maths is fine, but you forget that once a vid gets half a million or a million views it will come up on the radar and people's curiosity will take over, unless it's absolutely devoid of entertainment value...
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Your maths is fine, but you forget that once a vid gets half a million or a million views it will come up on the radar and people's curiosity will take over, unless it's absolutely devoid of entertainment value...
Not forgotten, simply bolstering my original reply: that purchasing billions of views is impractical/unlikely.

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Also, when your views reach into the billions (with a B), it is completely unfeasible for many of those to be purchased.
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You seem to have missed my point (and possibly the point of the thread) that he may've bought views to get the ball rolling. Once there've been half or a million views everybody starts to sit up and take notice, then it goes truly viral and earns mega bucks...
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Old May 15th, 2013, 10:45 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Well I'm one of those people who watched it a gazillion times and may have shared it that much too.
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