Phateless

I plan to continue updating this post until we have a complete list of everything SAFE to remove. Safe meaning the OS still boots and runs properly with no side-effects other than the app being gone.

I would like to keep going and remove the Genius Button app (remapped to regular Google Search) as well as any other nonsense that I don't need. I'm keeping backups of everything I remove and plan to have a Bloatware.zip file (non-flashable!) on hand for anyone who needs to unroot, restore, receive OTA updates, or what-have-you.

1-2-11 update
com.HTC.FriendStreamWidget
FriendStream
TMOUS_myTouchdemo.

So far I've removed:

AmazonMP3
AppPack
Asphalt5
com.htc.StockWidget
com.htc.TwitterWidget
Faves
FavesWidget
Flickr
HtcTwitter
Monopoly_Classic
Rockband
Stock
T-mobileTV
TmoVVM
VVM
Yahoo_im
Yahoo_imvideo
Yahoo_mail

And the corresponding odex files when they exist.

What have YOU removed?

EDIT - In case anyone is wondering you must be rooted to do this. I simply used Root Explorer from the market and went into system/app and used multi-select. Then I simply pressed MOVE and dropped everything into a folder on my sdcard for safe keeping.

MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP BEFORE DOING THIS!! That way you can restore if you **** something up.

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Last edited by Phateless; January 2nd, 2011 at 08:57 AM. Reason: add to list

bobneaves

Not rooted

But looking at this list of apps that I never use really makes me think that I will root soon, only to delete these apps :-P

dntnvme

I rooted the phone but could never get a full understanding how to remove so I reverted back to stock and said forget it... Thanks for the info!!!!!

Phateless

I keep nandroiding back and forth between stock and cm6. cm6 is most definitely snappier, but after all this I've found I've grown accustomed to Sense, lol.

It's easy. Download Root Explorer from the market and use it to browse like any file manager. Make sure instead of deleting the files you MOVE them to your sdcard so you can reinstall them if you need to receive ota updates or whatnot.

dntnvme

That was it, man if someone would of explained that to me the other day I could have been finished... Thanks Bro, I will get the nerve to try it again soon....

pstu

I successfully MOVED all the apps you have listed above. I also successfully MOVED com.HTC.FriendStreamWidget, FriendStream & TMOUS_myTouchdemo.

What I'd really like to do is get rid of the pink in the icons (come on tmobile...). Any way to do this without flashing a new ROM?

Phateless

So you're rooted but on stock ROM? Install a different launcher from the market.

pstu

Yes, still running the stock ROM. I'm assuming a new launcher is the same as loading a new ROM?

Last edited by pstu; December 30th, 2010 at 11:25 PM.

Phateless

Nope, a launcher is just your home screens and app drawer. Just do a search in market for LAUNCHER.

Phateless

OP updated. Thanks!

4g4win

Can someone please clarify the statement about Root Explorer. Is that program used for rooting or used as a file manager once rooting is completed? Is it the same as OI File Manager?

Phateless

The second. Better than any other file manager.

VMX

how come when I removed some of these apps I didnt get more internal memory? I removed rockband, monopoly, asphault, tmobile tv and amazonmp3, appPack and the demo video?

Last edited by VMX; January 19th, 2011 at 10:58 AM.

Phateless

Hmm, internal storage as opposed to RAM? Did you reboot?

VMX

I rebooted. I guess I saw a slight increase but not as much as i would assume. It went from 889 mbs to .88 gbs. Then again it might if been from removing busybox, superuser and titanium back up. I just wanted to remove bloatware and that was it.

Phateless

Yeah it takes a lot to make a dent. MySense is a very large OS so it's going to be tough to make a big difference.

VMX

If I remove things like flickr and faves, will they appear as options in my phone? For example, if i choose a pic to upload, will i still see Flickr as an option? Also I have facebook for Android, can I un-install Facebook for mytouch?

Phateless

No, those options SHOULD be gone. If they remain, they won't work.

Yes you can.

hughitt1

Hi Phateless,

Thanks for putting this list together! Couple quick questions:

1) I've read that using Titanium backup works well to uninstall bloatware once you have root. Any idea if it is better or worse than moving the apps manually in Root Explorer?

2) Know of any good articles or posts about performing NANDROID backups?

Thanks

Phateless

I don't think it's much different. The important thing is that you have either a backup of a the apk or a nandroid restore that includes it.

Nandroid backups are easy.

Just boot into clockwork recovery (manual mode) and go to backup and restore. Before creating a nandroid I like to clear cache of my largest apps in APPLICATIONS SETTINGS and clear my call log and text messages so I have a clean slate when I restore. I also like to wipe cache, dalvik and battery stats before performing a backup.

When restoring you should really do a wipe data/factory reset beforehand so that you get a clean restore.

Here's an article that goes into more detail than you need. http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_backup_or_recover_via_Nandr oid

Last edited by Phateless; February 3rd, 2011 at 04:05 PM.

hughitt1

Cool. Thanks for the info. I will probably give it a shot this weekend.

kronicus

when i go to the screen to remove any of the gay tmobile apps described in the first post here, the un-install icons are greyed out

dasudevil

Okay dl the root explorer and did exactly what you said and i get WARNING... selected items cannot be moved because the file system is read only.

Am i in the wrong folder? Also will this help eliminate the file and icon on reboot?

Thanks

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Phateless

In the top right corner there's a little button that says R/W. This will remount the directory as read/write instead of read only. THEN you can delete your apps.

Anges

I really want to get rid of those pre-installed apps (all of which you have listed) but does anyone have a suggestion for a free root app?

Thanks
'cause "It's so fluffy"

Anges

I am soo confused.
I made my backup and then I purchased Root Explorer.
First - I see that I am in r/o mode. How do I get root permission from within RootExplorer
Second - What folder do I navigate to so I can copy the bloatware to my sd card?

Phateless

Root Explorer lets you explore your phone once you are already rooted. You need to BE ROOTED to use Root Explorer. Once you're in system/app you click MOUNT R/W and then you can modify the folder. Don't forget to click MOUNT R/O when you're done.

As I mentioned in the other thread you're probably better off just installing Iced Glacier.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844594

Talderon

Easier way. Titanium Back (free) will list all system and user apps and gives the option to uninstall (and remove data).

Of course, you have to be rooted.

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Anges

Thanks for the help and suggestions. As I said in my prior message, I was finally rooted and made my backup. Tonight I will get rid of the bloatware (thanks for giving me the directory name of where to go). And even though I bought root explorer, I will also look at Titanium Back up.

As for going to Iced Glacier... I don't think I am ready to do that yet. I don't have a real issue with the launcher or the speed at this time. Why? well most of the day I don't have access to my phone (I can't have it in my office where I work) so I mostly use the phone at nights and on weekends. And when I do use my phone at home, it is either my wi-fi hot spot or I am in "airplane mode" - reading an ebook or playing a game.

BUT when I am ready for a different rom. I will then explore IG.

Agnes
cause "It's so fluffy!"

Anges

I am just starting to remove some of the bloatware and I thought I would remove the TMobile App Pack.

I have Visionary installed and I have it set up as TempRoot on Boot.

I am using Root Explorer and have R/W
I then renamed the AppPack.apk to AppPack.bapk
I then moved it to a folder on my sd card. I also verfied that it was no longer in the system\app folder
I then rebooted.
I then looked in my app drawer, and the app is still there AND when I go down to the folder system\app - the package AppPack.apk is still there.

I just realized I am not going back to R/O in RootExplorer - could that be the problem???
--update: Nope, that does not work either

Thanks
Anges.

Last edited by Anges; February 18th, 2011 at 06:20 PM.

Phateless

You need perm root and s-off for the changes to stick.

Anges

P-
Yes, I know that but I can't seem to achieve that state (perm root and s-off) not matter what I tried (see other posts in the Root sub-forum)

SO do you have any information that WOULD make perm root and s-off stick??

Phateless

Follow the guides on the XDA forum. This is the one that I used.
Guide to permaroot, s=off AND s=on!!!!! - xda-developers

Anges

BTW, what folders on the sd card can also be removed?

bmulligan

This was the first thread I came across in my journey to root my new Mytouch 4G phone. I've deleted all the apps on the OP's list, which also bugged the heck out of me, but can't seem to find a few that are constantly re-running themselves after being killed.

Dragon Dictation
News
Pico tts
NabService

I can't seem to find any of them in the /App folder and none of them seem to affect the phone when I manually stop them, but they are always running when I reboot. Pico must be part of the spiderweb of google services, and I have no use for Dragon Dictation or the "News" service. And I have no idea whatsoever what Nabservice does at all except take up memory. Does anyone know if these are named something different in the App folder?

Phateless

Dragon Dictation is probably the keyboard. Pico is the speech to text (the voice for your navigation) and I dunno wtf NabService is. News is probably related to the "news" account and an available widget. Not sure what it's called.

I've been running cm7 for the past 4 months and love it. Much lighter, leaner and faster and I've actually found it to be less buggy than MySense.

bmulligan

I found that HTCGreader.apk is responsible for the NEWS application constantly updating in the background.

I had to re-enable Pico tts to regain voiced turn-by-turn directions in the Navigation app.

I nixed VVM.apk, which I thought was responsible for Visual Voicemail, but it's still running on every re-boot and has to be killed manually.

Nixed NabService.apk as well. Not sure what it does, but everything seems to be working okay without it.

Can't find the Dragon Dictation app, but my guess is that I need that for giving voice commands to my phone. Either way, I'm very pleased with my rooted phone which seems to be running faster without all the bloat. And, for the record, I just used the renaming .apk to .bapk method after rooting, so as not to accidentally delete a necessary file.

Last edited by bmulligan; April 22nd, 2011 at 07:48 PM.

Ice Cake

Didn't use the Root Explorer-move method mentioned above, but used Bloat Freezer to freeze the apps instead.

As of now, my MT4G is perm-rooted and still running on stock ROM.

I may seem a bit overly aggressive, but I'm curious. Also, this list has worked for me for the past week on my phone, no guarantee on others. Please use caution and advice from OP.

Here's the list:

• Barcode Scanner *redundant coz of Google Goggles*
• Bookmark widget
• Magic Smoke Wallpapers
• Mail (com.htc.android.mail) *I use GMail exclusively*
• Mail Widget
• Music Visualization Wallpapers
• NabServices
• PhotoBackup (com.tmobile.photobackup)
• Screen Share
• Swype
• Visual Voicemail

And then here's more that are possibly waiting for a disaster to happen (although so far so good):

• Internet *I use Dolphin HD and Opera Mini exclusively*
  
  
• myModes:
  Only drawback: disables Themes under Settings/Personalize. In my case, I simply defrost it if I want to change themes.
  
  
• Genius Button (com.nuance.android.vsuite.vsuiteapp) *2 things to notice*
  1. I remapped the physical Genius Button using Root Explorer.
  2. Upon freezing the Genius Button, vsuiteapp will go nuts and foce close non-stop. After a simple battery pull, Genius Button is never to be seen again.

2011-05-12 Update
Internet
Freezing Internet will cause Voice Search to force close. Once frozen, defrosting Internet will cause "UID inconsistent" error.
So, all is well if you freeze Internet, except you will give up Voice Search as well.

Last edited by Ice Cake; May 13th, 2011 at 12:44 AM. Reason: Update

nir461

I did the same with root explorer and got the same message. Finally got Titanium Backup and got rid of these system apps easily.

moddave

Free apps to delete/freeze/backup system apps:

AntTek App Manager ?

Root Uninstaller

Phateless

You have to be rooted and then click "mount r/w" in root explorer.

siloner

bringing this back with a little problem. i uninstalled a system app accidentally using TB and now im not sure how to reinstall it. i see an apk file but after pressing install it says it wasnt installed. any ideas?

Phateless

Use Root Explorer to manually move it back to system/app. If you just install it will install to data/app. After you move it back you need to long-press and edit to permissions to match those around it.

You might have to reboot afterward.

mayflydd

I'm sorry if this info is in the post already but I think it's a very usefull piece of information. If your using 2.2 -----Z4ROOT DOES NOT WORK ON 2.2-----
you need to use SuperOneClick version 2.1.1 and then update superuser once installed.

Phateless

SOC can only give shell (temp) root for the mt4g.