Could this just be a typo? You can view the full size image and clearly see the model number. And iFixit links to a page about that chip. What is going on???
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Every thing written says no LTE; even Google says no LTE. It's a miss-type.
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Then how do you explain the perfectly matching model numbers with a Qualcomm LTE chip?
It could very well be that that picture isn't really a Nexus 4? I don't know and can't say for sure since I don't have one. Even if I did, I wouldn't open it up to see the board, so that's all I can say. I just know that Google has said that this current Nexus doesn't have LTE.
It could very well be that that picture isn't really a Nexus 4? I don't know and can't say for sure since I don't have one. Even if I did, I wouldn't open it up to see the board, so that's all I can say. I just know that Google has said that this current Nexus doesn't have LTE.
iFixit is a very reputable website and they wouldn't post something completely false like that. A typo is possible, but showing pictures of a different phone in a nexus 4 tear down won't happen. Yes, google did say that, but google also said my phone would ship by yesterday
iFixit is a very reputable website and they wouldn't post something completely false like that. A typo is possible, but showing pictures of a different phone in a nexus 4 tear down won't happen. Yes, google did say that, but google also said my phone would ship by yesterday
I just don't see the business strategy in that. Deny the phone has LTE for 2012 and then come 2013, hey guys, we lied, our phone is awesome! We just turned on LTE.. Keep dreaming.
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iFixit is a very reputable website and they wouldn't post something completely false like that. A typo is possible, but showing pictures of a different phone in a nexus 4 tear down won't happen. Yes, google did say that, but google also said my phone would ship by yesterday
Ok. I don't know anything about ifixit, and don't really look at that site, so I don't know how reputable they are. I certainly didn't mean any disrespect to you either.
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It's a pentaband transceiver that supports the AWS band 4 , but not LTE band 17 (Verizon) or band 13 (AT&T) so we can forget LTE support on the phone. The AWS band is used in the USA by T-Mobile.
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I just don't see the business strategy in that. Deny the phone has LTE for 2012 and then come 2013, hey guys, we lied, our phone is awesome! We just turned on LTE.. Keep dreaming.
I will dream
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Ok. I don't know anything about ifixit, and don't really look at that site, so I don't know how reputable they are. I certainly didn't mean any disrespect to you either.
Oh no worries man!
I am starting to think more and more that the phone does in fact come with an LTE capable chip. But maybe LTE itself is disabled but the phone is benefit from some other features from the chip that we are not aware of?
It's a pentaband transceiver that supports the AWS band 4 , but not LTE band 17 (Verizon) or band 13 (AT&T) so we can forget LTE support on the phone. The AWS band is used in the USA by T-Mobile.
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The WTR1605L supports more ports than did the older RTR8600; specifically, devices using these WTR1605L-containing chipsets will be capable of supporting up to three low bands (below 1 GHz), as compared to two low bands on the RTR8600, along with three high bands (above 1 GHz) and one very high band (2.5 GHz). This will provide Lower A block licensees using Band 12 with access to another 700 MHz band for roaming, including Band 13 or Band 17, as well as Band 25 (the PCS G Block), in addition to the cellular, PCS, and AWS bands for 3G operations, provided that the necessary software and the necessary additional filters, which are not made by Qualcomm, are added by device manufacturers.
To do so, device manufacturers would use a technique known as “band-stitching” to enable support for these bands (Bands 13 or 17, and/or 25). For this technique, Qualcomm would provide the device manufacturer with software code supporting the additional band or bands that the carrier requires, based on the carrier’s specific preference (which may change depending on each carrier’s roaming agreements and as LTE is deployed on new spectrum bands). The OEM, in turn, would be responsible for integrating the additional band(s), adding any necessary filter or filters and performing the necessary testing.
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Again the transceiver supports 5 bands but none of them are LTE bands in this country. The only semi LTE band usable in the USA is used for T-Mobiles AWS.
Again the transceiver supports 5 bands but none of them are LTE bands in this country. The only semi LTE band usable in the USA is used for T-Mobiles AWS.
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The chip in question, the Qualcomm WTR1605L (highlighted in green above), supports all currently operating LTE networks around the world.
I don't like that it has this rogue useless chip, it's kind like going to the doctor and finding out you have an extra liver that you can't use, which would be great for excessive drinking.
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It's very mysterious. I'm eager to hear how Google explains this.
Also btw strausd: You were right and I was totally wrong. My bad dude.
There is really no mystery, this particular transceiver supports the frequencies that the majority of GSM carriers deploy, this eliminated the need for multiple SKU's and software images for different carriers. At this time with spectrum fragmentation there is no such thing as an unlocked LTE device, at this time it requires different hardware and software for different carrier's LTE connectivity which would necessitate carrier specific SKU'S making the device more expensive because of the loss of economies of scale. Unfortunately unlocked and LTE are mutually exclusive at this point in time.
Edit : See this, http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte
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I think I agree that it's a holdover from the Optimus G which has LTE. Perhaps similar to the fact that my Chromebook has a SIM slot but since it's not the 3G model, it's worthless.
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You can enable to it work on the aws band by typing *#*#4636#*#* into the dialer and selecting lte in options. Pointless right now, but maybe useful on T-Mobile someday.
You can enable to it work on the aws band by typing *#*#4636#*#* into the dialer and selecting lte in options. Pointless right now, but maybe useful on T-Mobile someday.
Don't know the specifics, but the fella in the video said it would work with AT&T bands.
Anyone try it out yet?
I tried what the guy in the first video did and it did not work.
The second video, the gut said that he created an apn or whatever. Not sure what or how to do that so no luck.
I'm with Bell.
If anyone with Bell figures it out, please post.
From what I understand the different carriers all use different bands and frequencies for LTE. That being said the type of LTE that's compatible with this phone is the type that T-Mobile is going to start building out in 2013.
So... Those who have this phone on T-Mobile may be able to access their LTE network when it comes online next year. AT&T's LTE network is less likely. In other words, there's hope!
I always knew they would find a way to hack the shyt out of the 4G LTE chip inside the Nexus 4. But like always, there has to be people with negative comments to shoot something down even before anything is tried. Glad at the XDA folks!
From what I understand the different carriers all use different bands and frequencies for LTE. ...
It seems to be localized by continent ... from Wikipedia 4G-LTE: "The LTE standard can be used with many different frequency bands. In North America, 700/800 and 1700/1900 MHz are used; 2500 MHz in South America; 800, 900, 1800, 2600 MHz in Europe; 1800 and 2600 MHz in Asia; and 1800 MHz in Australia."
Of course the Google page states : Network
Unlocked GSM/UMTS/HSPA+ GSM/EDGE/GPRS (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
3G (850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
HSPA+ 42
So there's hope that the 1700/1900 will be the ticket here. The service plan I'll be using when the back-ordered N4 arrives utilizes both AT&T and T-Mobile, so I'm eager to see if the LTE can actually work during the course of my travels, if indeed the phone is capable of it as the videos attest.
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It's on band 4 people, a frequency which will be supported by T-Mobile when they roll out LTE (coincidence?) Reason #9065 to get this phone on T-Mobile
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Nexus 4 has LTE?!?!
