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Old February 15th, 2013, 06:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have the N4 and an Optimus G. For two phones that are suppose to be the same the battery life is far from it. The LGOG has a far better battery life. On the N4 every task, txt or any other function reduces the battery life noticably.

Would a hard reset fix this issue? The battery app shows the android system and screen as the most usage. I've turned the screen down to 50%.

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Turn on auto brightness. Stop playing with the phone so much. ;-)
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Default Battery sucks on Nexus 4

Fast cheap phone
Battery won't last a day even when sleeping.
Still playing with features to see if I like it or sell it.
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It's WAY better than the Verizon Galaxy Nexus. I easily make it through a day.
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It's WAY better than the Verizon Galaxy Nexus. I easily make it through a day.
Can I ask you what your settings are?
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Wow my phone stopped charging at around 8am and still at 11am when I got up it was still at 100 percent.

That's 3 hours of standby without dropping a single percent.

Now I've been up playing around. Ran antutu benchmark, checked email. Wi-Fi on the entire time and still at 97%

If anything this phone has a super battery!!!!

It's more to do with 4.2.2 as it was never this good on 4.2.1

Really if you got a problem with the Nexus 4 battery you need your head examined.

This just proves people will bitcch and moan about everything.
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Old February 15th, 2013, 11:13 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Fast cheap phone
Battery won't last a day even when sleeping.
Still playing with features to see if I like it or sell it.
Cheap phone?

I bet the people that spent upwards of $800 don't consider it cheap.

I bet the rest of the world with the exception of North America doesn't consider it cheap either. It averages out to around $500

Another spoiled, mongoloid American

Just sell it dude.
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Wow my phone stopped charging at around 8am and still at 11am when I got up it was still at 100 percent.

That's 3 hours of standby without dropping a single percent.

Now I've been up playing around. Ran antutu benchmark, checked email. Wi-Fi on the entire time and still at 97%

If anything this phone has a super battery!!!!

It's more to do with 4.2.2 as it was never this good on 4.2.1

Really if you got a problem with the Nexus 4 battery you need your head examined.

This just proves people will bitcch and moan about everything.
So you're saying because you don't have a problem no one else does or I obviously need my head examined. Did it ever occur to you Einstein that not all phones are alike? My issues are real and I'm on 4.2.1.
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So you're saying because you don't have a problem no one else does or I obviously need my head examined. Did it ever occur to you Einstein that not all phones are alike? My issues are real and I'm on 4.2.1.
Yes, that's right, you need your head examined...

Your best answer so far was the second post: Set your phone on auto-brightness(Which is noticeably less than 50%). It's how your phone SHOULD look under ANY lighting conditions and after owning several LG IPS displays the Nexus 4 works just as fantastic.

And stop playing with your phone so much. Believe it or not constantly throwing the phone through it's paces with the screen on can drain the battery.

You never ever stated what issues you're having other than poor battery. You never gave any backround on anything specific...Just sorta whined...That won't get you help my friend.

I love to help people.

I can tell you while I feel the battery was just fine on 4.2.1 it is MUCH better on 4.2.2.

Please if you have any questions or issues shoot...now that we've gotten to know each other
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Yes, that's right, you need your head examined...

Your best answer so far was the second post: Set your phone on auto-brightness(Which is noticeably less than 50%). It's how your phone SHOULD look under ANY lighting conditions and after owning several LG IPS displays the Nexus 4 works just as fantastic.

And stop playing with your phone so much. Believe it or not constantly throwing the phone through it's paces with the screen on can drain the battery.

You never ever stated what issues you're having other than poor battery. You never gave any backround on anything specific...Just sorta whined...That won't get you help my friend.

I love to help people.

I can tell you while I feel the battery was just fine on 4.2.1 it is MUCH better on 4.2.2.

Please if you have any questions or issues shoot...now that we've gotten to know each other
Auto brightness doesn't work for me, it's too dim. One reason why I took back my S3.

I have Juice Defender set to extreme and have very few widgets. I'm running Apex Launcher with only 4 active screens.

Whenever I send or read a txt the battery drops 1 to 2 percent in fact ANY one function I do it drops 1 to 2 percent.

Perhaps when 4.2.2 pushes through I'll see an improvement.

You won't be winning many friends with your insults BTW but thanks for any help you can provide.
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Auto brightness doesn't work for me, it's too dim. One reason why I took back my S3.

I have Juice Defender set to extreme and have very few widgets. I'm running Apex Launcher with only 4 active screens.

Whenever I send or read a txt the battery drops 1 to 2 percent in fact ANY one function I do it drops 1 to 2 percent.

Perhaps when 4.2.2 pushes through I'll see an improvement.

You won't be winning many friends with your insults BTW but thanks for any help you can provide.
Insults? Cmon man it's the internet. All good playful fun.

My best advice to you is this: Uninstall Juice Defender and NEVER, EVER think about installing it again...These things were useful pre-ICS. On anything post-ICS you're killing your battery. Trust me. Stock Android nowadays does a fantastic job of managing memory and battery life on it's own. All juice defender is doing is fighting with the OS to do something it already does probably much better than Juice Defender.

As far as launchers I think Nova is much smoother and much more stable than Apex. I've used both and eventually bought the paid version of Nova. I love it!

So to be a fair judge of everything immediately uninstall Juice Defender and charge your phone to 100%

And if you haven't tried Nova give it a shot as well!

Without Juice Defender I predict your battery life to almost double on this phone...Really it's that bad

Personally I think the auto-brightness is perfect on this phone..It POPS!
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Fast cheap phone
Battery won't last a day even when sleeping.
Still playing with features to see if I like it or sell it.
something is wrong if it doesn't last when in deep sleep.
I lose about 1-2% overnight, WiFi and cell radios left on. The battery graph is a nice, flat straight line.

even when I had battery issues with my old gnex, it would only lose 10% overnight. (I should've re-flashed that phone)
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Default Use what you need...

...when you need it.

That's what I've been doing on SMARTPHONES...and surprise surprise...

Without trying to teach anyone to suck eggs, that means:
- Switch on Wi-fi at home & 3G/H off....if out 3G/H on Wi-fi off
- Turn off Location
- My Brightness is at minimum (I found eats the most battery) increase when needed
(only takes a 2 finger swipe and a couple of more touches
- Use less widgets - I only have Flipboard Widget running all the time
(always get notifications for everything else)

Unplugged from charge at 8:30am - now 3:15am & have 55% battery left
Will be interested to see if there are indeed improvements with 4.2.2

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...when you need it.

That's what I've been doing on SMARTPHONES...and surprise surprise...

Without trying to teach anyone to suck eggs, that means:
- Switch on Wi-fi at home & 3G/H off....if out 3G/H on Wi-fi off
- Turn off Location
- My Brightness is at minimum (I found eats the most battery) increase when needed
(only takes a 2 finger swipe and a couple of more touches
- Use less widgets - I only have Flipboard Widget running all the time
(always get notifications for everything else)

Unplugged from charge at 8:30am - now 3:15am & have 55% battery left
Will be interested to see if there are indeed improvements with 4.2.2

Thanks for reading
I think there's no doubt 4.2.2 is much more battery efficient. It became readily apparent after using the phone for a few hours. Its also mentioned in the change log
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It looks like it has somewhat...my 55% 90mins ago hasn't moved....
Will reserve judgement until I see how long I get from a full charge 2moro...

Keep the updates coming ...hopefully Camera next IF possible
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Android System shouldn't be that high. Android OS can show up kind of high, depending on what you've been doing, but Android system should be close to the bottom. May have a rogue app.
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Stop auto syncing all the time, put screen on auto, watch background apps. Just common sense stuff really.
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I think 4.2.2 has improved battery life significantly. Not that I was getting bad battery life on 4.2.1, but since I have had 4.2.2, standby seems almost not to drain the battery at all. I mean, I'm sure it does, but it's certainly pretty difficult to notice.

I'm a pretty heavy user of my phone. I use it in my car to play media, in the gym for the same reason (audio and video) (sometimes streaming, sometimes playing podcasts already downloaded), I text a fair amount, check these forums often, surf the web, read my news in the morning, etc. etc. on my phone. If I weren't a content creator, I don't think my home computer would get turned on all that much.

I have sync on only for Gmail and contacts. I don't live on Facebook, and all the Facebook notifications are annoying to me, so I turned them off. During the day, I have brightness set to auto, but at evening/night, I have it set to the lowest setting on the power control widget. I am also on wifi rather often (work, home, coffee shops), and I turn on Bluetooth only when I need it (namely only in my car). These aren't settings that bug me. I don't use my phone sparingly just to save my battery (I do carry an external battery pack with me, but unless I'm on a long driving trip, I hardly use it).

My personal opinion is that people make way too big an issue of battery life.
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Cheap phone?

I bet the people that spent upwards of $800 don't consider it cheap.

I bet the rest of the world with the exception of North America doesn't consider it cheap either. It averages out to around $500

Another spoiled, mongoloid American

Just sell it dude.
Really, no need to nationality-bash. Yes, the Nexus 4 isn't an inexpensive phone in the rest of the world (also, not to Americans who are buying it from T-mobile for $500 or $200+ a contract), but from the Play Store, it is pretty inexpensive. And not just in north America, either. In the UK, it sells for 239 British Pounds (the 8 GB model). You have a point, but you can make it without the US-bashing.
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4.2.2 seems have improved battery life. I still charge it up every night anyway.
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4.2.2 seems have improved battery life. I still charge it up every night anyway.
I imagine that this update combined with Franco kernel will make for some great battery. Plus, CM10.1 has just merged 4.2.2.
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I think the battery life is fantastic. I have all my location services turned on, which is a big battery drain, but I still get a full days use out of it. If I turn the location services off, then I can get 2 days use from the phone. Im on 4.2.1 also.

At the end of the day its about how you use your phone and how you have it setup. Would your android system problem be something to do with Juice defender? As stated above, apps like Juice defender can be counter productive so try removing it. If its worse, then reinstall it but I doubt it'd be worse.
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Can't say I've noticed any difference in battery since I installed 4.2.2 on Friday - guess I need to give it more time.

I agree with the post above that states you need to be sensible in order to maximise your battery: switch off stuff you're not using like WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, location services and sync, plus keep the screen brightness on auto.

Don't give me that line about "if I switch stuff off how can it be a smart phone?". That's just dumb: it's still a car even when you don't have the headlights, demisters and horn going all the time.

Re the N4 being cheap: are you kidding? It's an absolute bargain - probably the best EVER smartphone bargain. At least, it is when you buy it from Play. That's one of the key features of the phone.

If you're being asked to pay the same price for it as, say, an SIII or a One X, then it's really a whole different proposition and I would say, don't buy it.
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My take on the battery life is it still isn't great, it got a little better with the 4.2.2 update but it seems as though that my battery drains the same on some days. This phone is amazing and for the price I'd still go with this phone. Maybe eventually google will start making a better battery for this phone? if people knew how to remove the back cover of this phone that is.
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OP, do you have Google Now turned on. If so, try turning it off for a couple of days, it made about a 30% improvement in battery life for me.
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I just got my n4 a couple of days ago, unsure about battery life. Went to bed at midnight with 90% woke up at 7am had 74%. Put it on charge for 20 minutes this morning, it said fully charged, then when I unplugged it from the charger it went back down to 74%!
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I think with battery you need to find what works for you, play around with settings and apply the common sense setting in you! One thing I learned is to stop charging your phone unless it's at 15% or below, long term it will wreck your battery if you keep constantly 'topping up' with short charges.

Also if you're a flasher wipe your battery stats when flashing a ROM or they will be meaningless and shouldn't be trusted.
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I think with battery you need to find what works for you, play around with settings and apply the common sense setting in you! One thing I learned is to stop charging your phone unless it's at 15% or below, long term it will wreck your battery if you keep constantly 'topping up' with short charges.
you are thinking about nicad or nimh batteries.
for lion batteries, I avoid going lower than 30%.
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I just got my n4 a couple of days ago, unsure about battery life. Went to bed at midnight with 90% woke up at 7am had 74%. Put it on charge for 20 minutes this morning, it said fully charged, then when I unplugged it from the charger it went back down to 74%!
something is running in the background preventing the phone from sleeping. you should only be losing 1-2% overnight.
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I go two charges a day. one before sleeping and another in afternoon.

estimate activity per day:
display and FPSE are the two dominant factors on my battery drainage around 60-70% combined
10minutes talking
30-1hour running FPSE
30 minutes web surfing on network
15-30mnts on wifi watching movie aka porn
100msgs+ viber and text messages
sync on all the time
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I'm very impressed with stock 4.2.2 battery. Here is mine while I wait for a RMA. One hour and 45 minutes screen on time.

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Wouldn't "Phone idle" and "Cell standby" be essentially the same thing?
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I am one of those people constantly doing stuff. Live wallpapers widgets auto sync everything wifi and mobile data always on and location.

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the battery life with 4.2.2 has improved 1000% percent. I couldnt get through a complete day with light/moderate use without finding a charger. now I can go two days with light/moderate use.

it has transformed my battery and phone to a phone I liked to a phone I love.

do the upgrade and you will see the improvement. I promise.
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estimate activity per day:
display and FPSE are the two dominant factors on my battery drainage around 60-70% combined
10minutes talking
30-1hour running FPSE
30 minutes web surfing on network
15-30mnts on wifi watching movie aka porn
100msgs+ viber and text messages
sync on all the time
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This has to be one of the funniest replies I've seen on here
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you are thinking about nicad or nimh batteries.
for lion batteries, I avoid going lower than 30%.
Isn't charging from 30% or more going to reduce your battery life??
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Can't say I've ever worried about what %age the battery's at before I charge. It goes on the charger at night except when I occassionally don't bother over a w/end.

Doesn't seem to have hurt my batteries: I've never had to replace one in nearly 20 years of owning cell phones.
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Isn't charging from 30% or more going to reduce your battery life??
why?
these aren't nicad batteries that need to discharge all the way to avoid the memory effect.
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the battery life with 4.2.2 has improved 1000% percent. I couldnt get through a complete day with light/moderate use without finding a charger. now I can go two days with light/moderate use.

it has transformed my battery and phone to a phone I liked to a phone I love.

do the upgrade and you will see the improvement. I promise.
This. 4.2.2 completely changed my battery life. Couldn't be happier with this device now.
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So I went and downloaded Juice Defender, it seems to be helping with the battery life as the phone lasts longer while on idle since it turns off all the data and junk
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I'm still using my old HTC charger, not opened the LG one yet. Not sure if it has much difference
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So I went and downloaded Juice Defender, it seems to be helping with the battery life as the phone lasts longer while on idle since it turns off all the data and junk
As a general rule of thumb I keep clear of apps like Juice Defender, as they can cause problems. The latest releases of Android handle everything for you.

But if you're getting favorable results from it then who am I to argue
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Instead, use better battery stats to find out what's using power and what's active when you're not using the phone.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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yes boys and girls. almost 1 week with 4.2.2 and it has transformed my battery life. if you have a problem with battery life. get the update. you won't regret it.
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As a general rule of thumb I keep clear of apps like Juice Defender, as they can cause problems. The latest releases of Android handle everything for you.

But if you're getting favorable results from it then who am I to argue
If anybody's interested there's a new app available from Qualcomm in the play store called Snapdragon BatteryGuru.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app

Heck, it's from the company that makes our processor and worthy of a shot.
Still in the 2nd day of the learning mode of the app myself.
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As a general rule of thumb I keep clear of apps like Juice Defender, as they can cause problems. The latest releases of Android handle everything for you.

But if you're getting favorable results from it then who am I to argue
The first day I didn't notice a difference, but today so far running on about 49% of battery with Moderate use, on about 14hrs unplugged
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If anybody's interested there's a new app available from Qualcomm in the play store called Snapdragon BatteryGuru.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app

Heck, it's from the company that makes our processor and worthy of a shot.
Still in the 2nd day of the learning mode of the app myself.
Any more info about this app? I hear learning mode takes about a week? and that it drains the battery more at first?
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I'm on 4.22, after 1st or maybe second charge and trying to hold off from charging until I get to about 15% as advised to me from here somewhere.

Currently on 1d 44m with 39% remaining, but spent a lot of time playing yesterday to configure things.

Wifi seems to stay on when I'm in work and doesn't sleep and using Bluetooth in car, but in the middle of setting up with Tasker to disable Bluetooth when I'm not in the car
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Any more info about this app? I hear learning mode takes about a week? and that it drains the battery more at first?
Read link to app in play store for more info. Also there's a thread at XDA on the app. Remember app is beta so there are more questions than answers.

Only had 3% battery use from BatteryGuru app IMO nothing to freak out about.

Update: learning mode finally completed an hour ago pretty much 2 days after installing. App suggests checking it's progress after a day or more.
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