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Old November 10th, 2013, 10:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So everyone knows one of the best things about the Nexus is its easy rooting and first to be updated. My question is, just how many of you will go beyond rooting and install a custom ROM? And if you do, which one will you roll with?

Last time I rooted and flashed was my Galaxy S2 Skyrocket rocking ParanoidAndroid phablet mode. It was lovely. Thinking about pursuing that ROM again or maybe MIUI/CM. But first I'm gonna play the crap out of the new Google Experience, cause "OK Google" on the home screen sounds dope af.

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Old November 10th, 2013, 10:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The stock rom has some bells and whistles I miss from previous custom Roms, such as the quick tile pulldown or the ability to rearrange/customize them and change their stock behavior.

I'm downloading a custom ROM right now, I'll be flashing it in a few
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The stock rom has some bells and whistles I miss from previous custom Roms, such as the quick tile pulldown or the ability to rearrange/customize them and change their stock behavior.

I'm downloading a custom ROM right now, I'll be flashing it in a few
Which ROM have you decided on?
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I'm running cataclysm with Franco kernel

Its got the bells and whistles I described earlier, and everything seems to be working properly.

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I am also using this rom! It's great.
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So what's the difference between a ROM and a kernel? I never bothered to look into kernels.
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Still stock rooted here. Until I see some decent roms for the N5, and they will be along before too long, then it's impossible to decide.

I'm just enjoying having a stock phone for a change
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Still stock rooted here. Until I see some decent roms for the N5, and they will be along before too long, then it's impossible to decide.

I'm just enjoying having a stock phone for a change
Yeah I'm excited for my first pure android experience. I've only had samsungs and htcs and I prefer sense over ugly touchwiz. Can't wait to get my Nex5!
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The kernel basically controls/manages the hardware components on behalf of the ROM (i.e., Android operating system). You always need to make sure the kernel is compatible with the ROM since they are very intertwined.
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I'm running cataclysm with Franco kernel

Its got the bells and whistles I described earlier, and everything seems to be working properly.
Speaking of which, will the root guide thread be updated with ROMs and such soon. I'll probably root and stay stock for a while, but I always appreciate the list of ROMs that appear here as an easier way (for me) to begin shopping ROMs rather than trying to figure out XDA. I know, I use WUG's toolkit too. Wimp.
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Speaking of which, will the root guide thread be updated with OMs and such soon. I'll probably root and stay stock for a while, bu I always appreciate the list of ROMs that appear here as an easier way (for me) to begin shopping ROMs rather than trying to figure out XDA. I know, I use WUG's toolkit too. Wimp.
Soon as I get some time. Unless anyone else beats me to it of course.
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Soon as I get some time. Unless anyone else beats me to it of course.
How are you liking that Cataclysm ROM? I'm sitting on stock w/ a custom kernel, but I might consider making the switch if everything appears stable (DD worthy).
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How are you liking that Cataclysm ROM? I'm sitting on stock w/ a custom kernel, but I might consider making the switch if everything appears stable (DD worthy).
No issues for me so far. Everything seems exactly the same but you get extra options/functionality.

I haven't tested camera but so far no issues after a full day of normal use...

Worst case, you restore your backup back to stock.
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No issues for me so far. Everything seems exactly the same but you get extra options/functionality.

I haven't tested camera but so far no issues after a full day of normal use...

Worst case, you restore your backup back to stock.
I might also check out those cam zips that supposedly increase a few settings behind the scenes. Users are reporting increased quality shots for photo + vid.
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I am under the impression that Cataclysm ROM is for Nexus 4.
Is it good for N5?
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I am under the impression that Cataclysm ROM is for Nexus 4.
Is it good for N5?
The developer made this rom for Nexus 4 but is now making it for Nexus 5.
[ROM] [KK 4.4][KRT16M][HAMMERHEAD]Cataclysm for Nexus 5 [Nov 10, 2013] - xda-developers

There's the link to the thread.
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So would I put this on the root of internal storage or in a folder of some sort?
In CWM install from SD?? Even though there is none?
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So would I put this on the root of internal storage or in a folder of some sort?
In CWM install from SD?? Even though there is none?
Yep, just put it somewhere you can remember. Flash the rom, then flash gapps. Just don't forget to factory reset and wipe cache/dalvik or you could be in for some wicked crashes when you boot up your rom.
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"Cataclysm is rooted and comes with Gapps"

Copied from XDA link in post #16.
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Yep, gapps included in this one.
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Interesting, because I know Google doesn't like it when custom roms come loaded with Gapps already baked in. They actually took legal action against the CyanogenMod team back in the day for this by sending a C & D letter, and CM complied.
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Is the kernel cool in this, or would one suggest Faux/Franco.
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Is the kernel cool in this, or would one suggest Faux/Franco.
You're likely to get different opinions when it comes to custom kernels. I generally prefer Faux kernel, but I know Rxpert83 prefers Franco. Both are really good kernels, but devices can be quite picky. I would say try the stock for a day or 2, and if it isn't up to par then try one of the others for a day or 2 and repeat.
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The stock rom has some bells and whistles I miss from previous custom Roms, such as the quick tile pulldown or the ability to rearrange/customize them and change their stock behavior.

I'm downloading a custom ROM right now, I'll be flashing it in a few
I am loving stock except for what you mentioned above. I also love a transparent lockscreen. Otherwise I was able to get mods or apps to take care of everything else I used a ROM for (quiet time, reboot menu, camera sound off, and a few others I'm forgetting).
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I am loving stock except for what you mentioned above. I also love a transparent lockscreen. Otherwise I was able to get mods or apps to take care of everything else I used a ROM for (quiet time, reboot menu, camera sound off, and a few others I'm forgetting).
Which rom has quiet hours?
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I am not sure in regards to the N5. For the N4 I was using a variety of ROMs that had it. Rootbox and Vanir come to mind but I know I used others that had it also. Maybe PSX and/or Purity?
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I am not sure in regards to the N5. For the N4 I was using a variety of ROMs that had it. Rootbox and Vanir come to mind but I know I used others that had it also. Maybe PSX and/or Purity?
Doh, I misread your last post.
What mod or app are you using for quiet hours?

I use Tasker for my night profile but I can't get it to mute the haptic feedback within the keyboard. I miss that about quiet hours. It's the one thing missing from my Tasker profile.
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Doh, I misread your last post.
What mod or app are you using for quiet hours?

I use Tasker for my night profile but I can't get it to mute the haptic feedback within the keyboard. I miss that about quiet hours. It's the one thing missing from my Tasker profile.
Do Not Disturb Premium That is a paid app. I forget what it has that the free app doesn't have. Here is the free app. Do Not Disturb Mode
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Hey, I'm aware that there are factory images available to return to stock after rooting and flashing other roms, if one so desired. But is there an unroot? I so desperately wanna root and go to town with flashing, as I'm normally accustomed to, but also don't want to void the warranty since I just dropped 4 bills for this bad boy. Do I have to wait a year to start flashing, or is there an unroot? Does a jig help in any way for the nexus 5? Thanks in advance.
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Hey, I'm aware that there are factory images available to return to stock after rooting and flashing other roms, if one so desired. But is there an unroot? I so desperately wanna root and go to town with flashing, as I'm normally accustomed to, but also don't want to void the warranty since I just dropped 4 bills for this bad boy. Do I have to wait a year to start flashing, or is there an unroot? Does a jig help in any way for the nexus 5? Thanks in advance.
Just to throw this out there, you could actually simply root your device without having to install a custom recovery or change anything other than installing the root binaries.

Additionally, you could take a full Nandroid backup prior to any root activity and squirrel-away a copy of your stock, un-rooted Android setup by:

- assuming you are currently stock
- unlocking your bootloader
- soft-booting (i.e., do not flash it) a custom recovery (via fastboot boot recovery.img)
- take a Nandroid backup of your stock, un-rooted setup
- save said backup off to a safe place
- flash the supersu.zip (or whatever it's called )

This would leave your stock recovery intact and give you a restorable Nandroid backup to take you back to stock without having to flash a factory image while at the same time allowing you to install and enjoy having root access.

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Just to throw this out there, you could actually simply root your device without having to install a custom recovery or change anything other than installing the root binaries.

Additionally, you could take a full Nandroid backup prior to any root activity and squirrel-away a copy of your stock, un-rooted Android setup by:

- assuming you are currently stock
- unlocking your bootloader
- soft-booting (i.e., do not flash it) a custom recovery (via fastboot boot recovery.img)
- take a Nandroid backup of your stock, un-rooted setup
- save said backup off to a safe place
- flash the supersu.zip (or whatever it's called )

This would leave your stock recovery intact and give you a restorable Nandroid backup to take you back to stock without having to flash a factory image while at the same time allowing you to install and enjoy having root access.

Nice! I appreciate that tidbit of info, but would that be untraceable? I ask just in case I had to do a warranty claim within the year of purchase (standard warranty limit). Trust me, I'm all about experimenting with flashes, (in fact I remember you from the LG Motion threads), but considering I just dropped almost 1/2 a grand for this sucker, I basically wanna know that I could still return my device if I needed to- at least for the duration of the warranty. And since rooting alone voids your warranty, I was wondering if there's a way to unroot and set the flashing counter back to zero, so that if I needed to send my phone back to google, I would have no problems within the warranty time-frame. My apologies if my initial inquiry was ambiguous. Good lookin out.
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Nice! I appreciate that tidbit of info, but would that be untraceable? I ask just in case I had to do a warranty claim within the year of purchase (standard warranty limit). Trust me, I'm all about experimenting with flashes, (in fact I remember you from the LG Motion threads), but considering I just dropped almost 1/2 a grand for this sucker, I basically wanna know that I could still return my device if I needed to- at least for the duration of the warranty. And since rooting alone voids your warranty, I was wondering if there's a way to unroot and set the flashing counter back to zero, so that if I needed to send my phone back to google, I would have no problems within the warranty time-frame. My apologies if my initial inquiry was ambiguous. Good lookin out.
There are ways of restoring back to stock and Google/your carrier/your insurance company will have no way of knowing it was previously rooted.

That applies whether you choose to root the stock ROM or flash a custom ROM.

Voiding your warranty isn't something I'd let prevent you from rooting.
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Old November 21st, 2013, 03:54 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Normally I'd agree with you on that last part, but those 4 bills are telling me otherwise. Especially since this phone gotta last me quite a while to make it worth while. Trust me, after the warranty's up I'mma be a flash machine, but till then I might just roll with the stock JUST IN CASE. Kinda nice to be on stock for a change anyway. Many thanks for the info.
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