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Default Nexus 5 Pre-Release/Speculation Thread

Nexus 5 is coming soon, and we've had plenty of leaks.
Some of the more recent updates include:

We appear to have 2 colors:



Specs that we know thus far:
  • 2.3 GHz Snapdragon 800 quad core Krait 400.
  • Adreno 330 graphics based on processor selected
  • 4.96" 1080P display
  • RAM 2GB
  • 16GB /32GB
  • 8 MP OIS rear cam / 1.2 MP front cam.
  • 2300 mAh battery
  • 4.4 Android OS (KitKat)
  • Wireless Capability:
    • GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
    • UMTS/HSPA: 850 / 1700/2100 / 1900
    • CDMA 2000: 800 / 1900 (D820)
    • LTE: There appears to be two models here with each one having different compatibilities.
      D820: 2/4/5/17/25/26/41
      D821: 1/3/5/7/8/20
So in summary, it appears that it will be compatible on AT&T (17,4), T-Mobile(4), and Sprint(25, 26, 41) LTE. It doesn't appear to be compatible with Verizon, which uses band 13.

So jump in. Nothing is too big or small. All ideas, thoughts, general conversation, whatever about the Nexus 5 shall begin!!
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I've been hearing that it will run Android.
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I have a feeling many Verizon and Sprint customers are going to be disappointed. But it would be nice to get both band 4 & band 17 LTE.

And hopefully no supply issues like the Nexus 4 had.
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I have a feeling many Verizon and Sprint customers are going to be disappointed. But it would be nice to get both band 4 & band 17 LTE.

And hopefully no supply issues like the Nexus 4 had.
I'm already set up for disappointment.

Nexus 4, no CDMA version. Google Editions of the S4 and One, no CDMA. Heck, I'm not even sure the Moto X DE is confirmed in CDMA. So my hopes are not high.

Does seem like LG has the contract though, but rumors are lower spec'd G2 for price.

Pretty sure I'll wait for the announcement just to make sure I'm fully disappointed in a lower speed offering that won't work on Verizon. Then I'll have some choices to make.

Will LG G2 have dev support?
Stay with Verizon or jump ship?

I do love me a good KitKat though.
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Now, if the Nexus 5 was simply a G2 without skin, unlocked, full band compliant phone available to use on any carrier, that would be awesome.

And while I'm dreaming, why not make it $99 off contract.
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I'm already set up for disappointment.

Nexus 4, no CDMA version. Google Editions of the S4 and One, no CDMA. Heck, I'm not even sure the Moto X DE is confirmed in CDMA. So my hopes are not high.

Does seem like LG has the contract though, but rumors are lower spec'd G2 for price.

Pretty sure I'll wait for the announcement just to make sure I'm fully disappointed in a lower speed offering that won't work on Verizon. Then I'll have some choices to make.

Will LG G2 have dev support?
Stay with Verizon or jump ship?

I do love me a good KitKat though.
There is a Verizon Dev version of the Moto X in the works, one for Sprint isn't necessary because they'll let you unlock the Sprint version.

As for the Nexus 5, Verizon screwed up real bad and their customers who want one are the ones to pay the penalty. Sprint hasn't been as bad, but still isn't the greatest at updating their Nexus devices. The Sprint Gnex is still on 4.2.1 officially and their Nexus S is on 4.1.1 (unlocked is frozen on 4.1.2). As for who makes it, LG does seem to be the favorite, but a closer look at that whoopsie from the statue video makes it look similar to the Sony Xperia Z1 regarding camera size, placement, and layout with the flash.
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Read what you will into this but a little more info on LTE bands:

How Awesome is It That the New Nexus 7 LTE Works on Verizon, T-Mobile, and AT&T? – Droid Life

As mentioned, phones and the capability to make calls on the network is a standing issue. Still, worth a read.
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Read what you will into this but a little more info on LTE bands:

How Awesome is It That the New Nexus 7 LTE Works on Verizon, T-Mobile, and AT&T? Droid Life

As mentioned, phones and the capability to make calls on the network is a standing issue. Still, worth a read.
It's still nice to see Google test those block c regulations that Verizon hates oh so much with the new Nexus 7. Though I've got suspicions that the reason it isn't released in the US is because Verizon is trying to fight these regulations. It's available in a couple of markets in Europe, though not through Google Play.
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It's still nice to see Google test those block c regulations that Verizon hates oh so much with the new Nexus 7. Though I've got suspicions that the reason it isn't released in the US is because Verizon is trying to fight these regulations. It's available in a couple of markets in Europe, though not through Google Play.
Plausible theory indeed. If vzw wanted to kick start their new Edge program however, it could be a good move to offer a device that's more affordable...and would be in demand by many of the more savvy folks who have latched onto their unlimited data. Something like the Nexus 5.

I'm a dreamer but my cup is half full at least.
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Plausible theory indeed. If vzw wanted to kick start their new Edge program however, it could be a good move to offer a device that's more affordable...and would be in demand by many of the more savvy folks who have latched onto their unlimited data. Something like the Nexus 5.

I'm a dreamer but my cup is half full at least.
The only issue I see with that is the the CDMA Gnex was 600+ full retail even after the GSM version came to Google Play at $350. Now if Google were to make the Nexus 5 VoLTE capable with band 13 LTE support & no CDMA radio, it could hypothetically sneak it onto Verizon's network once Verizon starts up that it themselves. Though I don't see that happening until mid or end of 2014.
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The only issue I see with that is the the CDMA Gnex was 600+ full retail even after the GSM version came to Google Play at $350.
True but I'm not sure many people would go down that road again. So in the unlikely event that it came to vzw, I think the rules would have to change. Does that make it even LESS likely to happen? Maybe.

Bottom line, there's always the G2. It should land on VZW/Sprint as LG's flagship.
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Finally! A Nexus 5 thread! Thanks man. Yeah I'm all aboard for the next phone. Once you go Nexus, you never go back.
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I have a feeling many Verizon and Sprint customers are going to be disappointed. But it would be nice to get both band 4 & band 17 LTE.

And hopefully no supply issues like the Nexus 4 had.
I'm currently on Sprint and I'm getting the next Nexus. How? I'm moving to T-Mobile.
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Nexus 5 Could be LG D820?

Looks like it supports ATT, T-Mobile and Sprint bands! W00t

The LG D820 Looks Surprisingly Like The Possible Next Nexus, Has A 2,300mAh Battery, LTE, 802.11ac Wi-Fi, and Wireless Charging
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Beat me to it Rx,

Those frequency bands for WCDMA and GSM don't seem to support any common European frequencies.
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Screen appears to be 4.96 inches, and it has a Snapdragon 800 processor
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If this pans out... all of my phones are going up on Craig'slist.

Can't wait for another sprint nexus

I do wish it has a larger battery, but I'm just being picky
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If this pans out... all of my phones are going up on Craig'slist.

Can't wait for another sprint nexus
Same. With no word about the new Padfone, looks like I've got some devices going on sale once we get a date.
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I don't think I believe a word on that article. I mean look at those pics from few days ago of the Nexus 4 and the alleged Nexus 5 together. Its physically larger than the Nexus 4. Something doesn't add up.
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What kinda price is everyone thinking? (In pre-tax american dollars of course)
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What kinda price is everyone thinking? (In pre-tax american dollars of course)
If they pack all of this into the 350 zone like they've done with the two previous generations, then that's awesome.
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That would be cool. Hope they stick to making it a non profit kinda thing and people dont get a shock like with the X lol
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Here's a thought:

Its the same phone having support for both GSM and CDMA.

I'm hoping I can buy the "universal" nexus sold through Google play without a contract for sprint.

Next summer I still have an upgrade, or can choose to take that phone to ATT, T-Mobile, or any of the 3s prepaid carriers if network vision isn't up to par

But wait...
That would also mean upgrades directly from Google. A true nexus experience (something Sprint and Verizon's were lacking previously)
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A universal nexus would be a great step forward
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Those sprint bands give me concern. When have we ever seen the US cdma carriers give up control? To me, this makes me nervous about receiving timely updates because of it is universally one device, it might mean sprint will have to go through its testing crap instead of just letting v
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Could help explain no Verizon support. They wouldn't give it up.

Or Verizon opted out, or Google didn't want them to have it, or it'll be supported once Verizon launches their (band 4?) LTE later this year/early next year.

Anyone's guess just my speculation/hope
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Could help explain no Verizon support. They wouldn't give it up.

Or Verizon opted out, or Google didn't want them to have it, or it'll be supported once Verizon launches their (band 4?) LTE later this year/early next year.

Anyone's guess just my speculation/hope
If sprint willingly gave up control, then I applaud then.
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While I'm happy that Sprint may get the next Nexus, I just feel more confidant getting the gsm version with T-Mobile.
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I have an S4 and luckily got it early so it's rooted and loki still works so I can run AOKP.

However, I'm still missing that pure Nexus feel.

So, it's quite simple for me. I'll be ditching Verizon and moving to AT&T who has great LTE coverage at my house (better than Verizon!) and at work (again, way better than Verizon).

Unfortunately my wife's phone is in contract until Jan 2014.

Does anyone know if you can leave only ONE line on a grandfathered Verizon 700 minute family share plan with unlimited text/data? If so, I may go early and then when her contract expires change my AT&T account to a family share plan and get her a subsidized iPhone 6.
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Thats the thing though, I'm hoping theres no "GSM" version and no "Sprint" version. Just one phone available through google play.

Before, we saw GSM phone and a CMDA phone go through the FCC right? Now its 1 phone supporting all bands

I'm sure I'll be disappointed, but that would be awesome if google could get that done.

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Does anyone know if you can leave only ONE line on a grandfathered Verizon 700 minute family share plan with unlimited text/data? If so, I may go early and then when her contract expires change my AT&T account to a family share plan and get her a subsidized iPhone 6.
Unfortunately I know virtually nothing about the fine print of Verizon's plans . You may target a more focused audience by asking that in the Verizon carrier forum here:
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Thats the thing though, I'm hoping theres no "GSM" version and no "Sprint" version. Just one phone available through google play

I'm sure I'll be disappointed, but that would be awesome if google could get that done.
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If they could maintain one phone even with the CDMA radio, that would be a major improvement as far as consumers go.





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I have an S4 and luckily got it early so it's rooted and loki still works so I can run AOKP.

However, I'm still missing that pure Nexus feel.

So, it's quite simple for me. I'll be ditching Verizon and moving to AT&T who has great LTE coverage at my house (better than Verizon!) and at work (again, way better than Verizon).

Unfortunately my wife's phone is in contract until Jan 2014.

Does anyone know if you can leave only ONE line on a grandfathered Verizon 700 minute family share plan with unlimited text/data? If so, I may go early and then when her contract expires change my AT&T account to a family share plan and get her a subsidized iPhone 6.
I know when I ported my numbers out from Verizon to Google Voice and still have one line on the plan, I was still stuck on my family plan. So based on that, I think you might get what you want.
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I know when I ported my numbers out from Verizon to Google Voice and still have one line on the plan, I was still stuck on my family plan. So based on that, I think you might get what you want.
Great! I'm so fed up with Verizon and their draconian policies. I know AT&T still locks down devices, but at least I can rely on a Nexus device being available once a year or failing that a GE device!
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looks like i'm probably going to be jumping ship from verizon...



their phone lineup gets more and more disappointing each year.
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looks like i'm probably going to be jumping ship from verizon...



their phone lineup gets more and more disappointing each year.
Hey long time no see! I feel you about the choices. I want the Nexus or Xperia Z1 and I'll get neither if I stay on Verizon. Fairly confident anyway.
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Hey long time no see! I feel you about the choices. I want the Nexus or Xperia Z1 and I'll get neither if I stay on Verizon. Fairly confident anyway.
Hey!! It's been a while huh!

Yeah if by the end of the year I don't see the nexus 5 come to vzw, or if I don't see any high spec'd phones on the horizon, I'm either going to wait for the galaxy S5 or jump to a different carrier. I don't understand why they don't go for the high end phones.
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Been looking pretty hard at this phone. Cant find much on it.

Currently on an iPhone 4 with 2 years left on my contract until I can upgrade; so I've been looking for an inexpensive Droid phone to dip my feet into. Was going to get the Nexus 4 until I caught wind of the Nexus 5 on the near horizon. Definitely not in a rush to get rid of my iPhone 4, but I'm hoping the Nexus 5 becomes something of a monster, as I'd love to get a mobile device with good flash support (yeah, not native, but so easy to put on that it sortof is) that can suffice all my anime-watching needs, while lasting all day, with absolutely all my social networks and emails on push, while having the guts to game fairly well... That'd be a dream; no... Ahem; let's not forget the ever important 1080p panel, LTE, and stock Android...

I don't really know anything about the Nexus 5; just hopping on to see if I can pick any info up as it comes up... Would love to make the switch to a Droid and "happily never look back", as they say.
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From the specs we've seen, it sounds like this is THE phone to get.... if you can get it
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True but I'm not sure many people would go down that road again. So in the unlikely event that it came to vzw, I think the rules would have to change. Does that make it even LESS likely to happen? Maybe.

Bottom line, there's always the G2. It should land on VZW/Sprint as LG's flagship.
Yeah but who has $600-$700 to pay for a phone that will last 1-2 years max. That's quite an amount to spend for such a short lived item.

I'd be willing to put $300 into a Nexus 5 and sell it a year from now for $200.

If only Tmobile would upgrade all of their 2g and 3g hspa to hspa+ and or lte I think I'd be happy enough to move onto their plans with only 5GB of data for $30 a month, but 2g and 3g data are just unusable.
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I'm pretty pumped to read about that Snapdragon 800. The charging is so fast on my Xperia Z Ultra and I've read that it's because of the 800. Plus I miss wireless charging.

I hope they release it earlier this year than last year. I want an Umpa Lumpa now!!
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I'd be willing to put $300 into a Nexus 5 and sell it a year from now for $200.
I think that was a lot of people's plan for the nexus 4, but then google dropped the new price by $100 and tanked the resale market (at least temporarily).
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Yeah but who has $600-$700 to pay for a phone that will last 1-2 years max. That's quite an amount to spend for such a short lived item.
Agreed. If I go that route it will be by way of transfering an upgrade to a dumb phone and re-upping the contract.
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Yeah but who has $600-$700 to pay for a phone that will last 1-2 years max. That's quite an amount to spend for such a short lived item.

its about or slightly less then what you pay for your laptop with the same lifespan
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Howdy all. It's nice to see the speculation thread for the nexus 5 startup. Hope it is as epic as the galaxy nexux thread. Good times!

So was looking at the motox and noticed it had the "contextual awareness" feature set. Has there been any speculation if that will appear on the nexus 5? It looks like some of the features require a AMOLED screen but some of them do not.

Here is the wikipedia article on the motox, note it has a dedicated natural language processor and a dedicated contextual awareness processor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X

Looking forward to another great speculation thread!
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Howdy all. It's nice to see the speculation thread for the nexus 5 startup. Hope it is as epic as the galaxy nexux thread. Good times!

So was looking at the motox and noticed it had the "contextual awareness" feature set. Has there been any speculation if that will appear on the nexus 5? It looks like some of the features require a AMOLED screen but some of them do not.

Here is the wikipedia article on the motox, note it has a dedicated natural language processor and a dedicated contextual awareness processor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X

Looking forward to another great speculation thread!
All of these features aren't in native AOSP, so unless they're added to 4.4(which I doubt they will), I wouldn't expect to find them in the Nexus 5. But if they are added to 4.4, then any Nexus device that gets the update to it will get it hypothetically as well assuming the necessary hardware is there.
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All of these features aren't in native AOSP, so unless they're added to 4.4(which I doubt they will), I wouldn't expect to find them in the Nexus 5. But if they are added to 4.4, then any Nexus device that gets the update to it will get it hypothetically as well assuming the necessary hardware is there.
Excellent point. Quick googling doesn't show anything like that in the feature set for 4.4. Tx!
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