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Old November 7th, 2013, 11:29 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Okay here is what I have got so far 15 hours. 2 gmail accounts Google now on but location reporting off. Bluetooth on all day along with WiFi was on WiFi most of the day but was not LTE for about 3 of the 15 hours without WiFi. Location set to battery saving mode. On AT&T not bad. About the same as I was getting with my HTC one GPE
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Neither one of those apps works. They just open and crash.
That is because they don't work with 4.4 all those battery monitor apps need a work around for 4.4 sucks because seeing those wake locks is very helpful
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There's a version of BBS on xda that works with 4.4. Its free as well


http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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Battery still hasn't been great for the last two days, though there has been a slight improvement. I still have to plug it in as soon as I'm home from work, which I rarely had to do with the HTC One.

Currently sitting at 54% after 5h 4m 51s and just 23m 56s of screen time.

What all falls under google services? I notice that doesn't even show up in others screenshots, but it is second on my list at 23%, just behind the screen.

At least mine seems to charge pretty quickly.
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So I just went into setting to check Google account syncing. It looks like Google syncing is having issues. I am wondering if this could be effecting our battery life.
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So I just went into setting to check Google account syncing. It looks like Google syncing is having issues. I am wondering if this could be effecting our battery life.
Was thinking the same thing when I saw it last night.


I also removed Nova Launcher and battery life today seems better.
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Was thinking the same thing when I saw it last night.


I also removed Nova Launcher and battery life today seems better.
I don't have nova launcher, so I am think sync might have something to do with .
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Battery still hasn't been great for the last two days, though there has been a slight improvement. I still have to plug it in as soon as I'm home from work, which I rarely had to do with the HTC One.

Currently sitting at 54% after 5h 4m 51s and just 23m 56s of screen time.

What all falls under google services? I notice that doesn't even show up in others screenshots, but it is second on my list at 23%, just behind the screen.

At least mine seems to charge pretty quickly.
That's really strange, I am at 79% with 7h14m on and 40m screen time. Running mostly stock with the Qualcomm battery guru on (but still learning). I also have wifi and bluetooth on at all times and even did some maps navigation.

I know a lot of people seem to be having battery issues but it has been fantastic for me. On TMobile if it makes a diff.
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That's really strange, I am at 79% with 7h14m on and 40m screen time. Running mostly stock with the Qualcomm battery guru on (but still learning). I also have wifi and bluetooth on at all times and even did some maps navigation.

I know a lot of people seem to be having battery issues but it has been fantastic for me. On TMobile if it makes a diff.
wow, on my gnex it would be dead. so looking forward to this!
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Agree. Also coming from GNex and very happy. First full day, I got 18 hours with almost 5 hours combined screen and talk hours. Love this phone! Ditched Verizon and trying T Mobile ppaid.
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So far I'm happy with battery life. I haven't over used the phone because I've been busy with work (where I use a One X) but the N5 seems to be at around 40-50% after a long day (say 6am to 10pm).

Today will be a bigger test I guess as it's the weekend and I'll be taking some (blurry) pics on a night out etc.
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i suffer no hardships doing this -

Battery Tips for Android

1. Toggle off GPS, BT, NFC, Hotspot/Tethering. Toggle on only as needed. (Switch to "Battery Saving" Mode).
2. Display Brightness - Turn off Auto Brightness and Reduce Setting Bar to Minimum Acceptable to you.
3. Sign out of any unused Google Services like G+, Google Now, etc.
4. Disable Location Reporting/History.
5. Beware of constantly syncing in background Apps and Bloatware like Facebook, Twitter, Google News and Weather, Google Currents, Non-Push Email, etc. Set Sync interval for every 1 hour or more and change settings to stop the syncing of data you don't need. Delete the Apps you never use.
6. Turn Off Hot Word "Hotword Detection" Always Listening Mode in Google Search if you don't use it.
7. Turn Off Auto Camera/Photo Upload or at least set it for Upload on WIFI Only.
8. Turn Off Vibrate on Touch for Display, Keyboard, etc.
9. Turn Off Touch Sounds and Unlock Sounds.
10. Don't use Live Wallpaper. Use a dark wallpaper if possible.
11. Set Display Sleep Setting to 2 Minutes or Less.
12. Set WIFI to Always stay on during Sleep if you regularly use WIFI.
13. Uncheck "Always Scanning" in WIFI settings.
14. Turn Off Always Vibrate in Gmail/Email.
15. Be careful of using too many Live Widgets and what/how often they sync.
16. Set MS Exchange Sync at 30 Days or Less.
17. Do NOT use a Task Killer App or Battery Saver App.

"I SUFFER NO HARDSHIPS DOING THIS"

this means that i personally am giving up NOTHING with these tips. i'm not giving up any features. there are no tradeoffs for me. a tradeoff or a hardship would be to turn off PUSH email or use AIRPLANE mode during the day etc.

you find your own balance and the tips list is a start but you must come to your own conclusion as to what's important. it's personal preference but these are not a big deal to me at all as they do not affect the function or operation of my phone. these tips do not deteriorate my experience.
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Heres mine for the first half or so day. Overall, to me, not exactly satisfactory.

I dont mind an average camera and quiet speakers and some Hangout bugs; software can fix most of that.

But a bad battery? Now that is a no no. I got a lot of tweaks ahead of me until I get back to the level I want.

I did charge a little bit near the middle (about 3-4%), so the results are slightly inflated. Keep in mind.

This is with the screen not on auto, at minimum brightness for most of the time with about 5-10% above the auto barrier near the last 25% of the run.

It is at 5% at the end.

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So far I'm pleased with the battery life, with lite usage I have like 70% left at the end of the day. With the nexus4 it was like 40% or less.
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Yes, I have come to the conclusion that I'm happy with it, whether or not it could be better. It exceeds my old phone hands down. I forgot to charge it before leaving the house yesterday - sure that it would die before I came home. I turned off wifi and data. It was at 30 percent. Even turning everything off and not using it, it would have been dead before I came home (almost 8 hours) with my old phone. With the Nexus 5, I even used the camera, turned the data on from time to time to show off OK Google (I know, I'm a nerd, but so are my friends ) and texted a bit, and it was at 4 percent when i got home. I think i'm in love LOL
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After some light usage, I'm on hour 27 of my current charge with about 1 hour of screen time and I'm still at 69 percent.
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That's pretty good.

I've had some bad battery life the last few days, but they haven't been my normal usage patterns. Today I'm mostly writing my preliminary thesis papers and I'm down to 83 % after 30 minutes of screen on time, 15 minutes of talk, and 2.5 hours off charger.

Still pretty disappointing, but once Franco gets his device in hand I'll move to his kernel and I'll have a lot more control over gaining battery life.
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Friday I was streaming music by Bluetooth in my car (over the network from Google music all access) and using the gps at the same time (with screen on) and it was using very little battery and the phone stayed cold. In comparison the Nexus 4 in similar condition was getting really hot to the point it was refusing to charge and the battery was draining real fast.

The Nexus 5 is really superior to the Nexus 4 and real close to the HTC one.

Compared to the nexus 5, the HTC one have a far superior screen, camera is a bit better and the speaker are far superior.

Performance wise they are both really fast phone (way faster then the laggy nexus 4) and they both hold better in hand (The nexus 4 feel clunky and slippery).

I really did not like that nexus 4 even if I got it for $199.

So far my favorite phone I had from the best to worst:
1. HTC One
2. Nexus 5
3. Galaxy Nexus
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5. Nexus 4
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7. Bunch of Blackberry.

I still would pick a galaxy nexus over an nexus 4 even for today usage. The galaxy nexus was more solid and only a bit slower. Since it's 1 year old more the nexus 4 I think it's an impressive phone.

I just sold my HTC one, I will stick with the Nexus 5, at least I'm sure I will get the update as quick they release + I like the bigger screen even if the colour are not as good then the HTC one screen.

Back on battery life, make sure you fully charge your phone when you get it, it's always recommended and it ensure you won't affect your battery life in the future. That's what I did and my battery have been quite impressive (except after the first charge).
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I've got something funky going on with the OS.
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Yeah, android os has always been one of my top 3.
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There's some people on xda having problems after switching between dalvik and ART then back, so I may end up doing a factory reset just to make sure that isn't it.
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I never switched, so I know that's not my issue.
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But you're sitting around the same percentage after 24 hours that I am after 4 .
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But you're sitting around the same percentage after 24 hours that I am after 4 .
Very true. I'm actually surprised that it isn't draining faster because I do have Google Now and "OK Google" enabled, I only chanced location settings to Battery Saver mode.
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I don't root. would that make a difference? android os has always been second every time i checked. but android system has always been first. screen comes in third, no matter how much i use it it seems.
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I have the WiFi on, network on, Bluetooth on, Google now on, ok Google on, the screen shut down after 10 minutes of inactivity and I still have a very good battery life.

I'm on Rogers network.
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I don't root. would that make a difference? android os has always been second every time i checked. but android system has always been first. screen comes in third, no matter how much i use it it seems.
Root won't make an immediate impact on your battery life, but it will give you access to more tools that could help give you battery life. Greenify is a root based app that many swear really help battery life. I've never tried it, so I don't really know much about it. It will also give you the ability to flash custom kernels and set their clock speed/voltage levels that can also help add battery life. I've seen some reports of people on xda getting 7 hours of screen time on the Nexus 5 by tinkering with all the options at their disposal.
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I am not a developer/programmer/etc and thus am extremely wary of rooting and bricking my device Not to mention if I did it successfully, I have no idea what you just said. HAHAHA. Flashing and clocking and voltage, oh my!
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So what would be the best first charge? When you first get it charge to 100% then drain it, or drain it then charge to 100%?
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Well, it's very hard to brick a Nexus. Unlike other devices, you don't have to go through exploiting security weakness to obtain root. However it does require you to unlock the bootloader which invokes a factory reset for security reasons. There are also toolkits that automate most of the process, so that the hardest part is setting up the drivers on your computer. However if you're happy with how things are, there's no real need to dive into all this and take unnecessary risks.
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So what would be the best first charge? When you first get it charge to 100% then drain it, or drain it then charge to 100%?
I just used it as is. These batteries don't really have "memory" like old rechargeable batteries did. Just avoid letting the battery completely die, and things should be fine.
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I am not a developer/programmer/etc and thus am extremely wary of rooting and bricking my device Not to mention if I did it successfully, I have no idea what you just said. HAHAHA. Flashing and clocking and voltage, oh my!
I'm not a develop or programmer but I've rooted all my androids except my HTC cause they take extra steps and I'm lazy. Lol
But anyway, my purpose of rooting is to experience more intuitive ROMs like MIUI and ParanoidAndroid. Most of the time they are faster, smoother, and have many more built in features. Clocking has to do with speed. When you see 2.3 dual core processor, that means that processor is clocked in at 2.3. Make sense? Sorry if not. Lol

But I've never owned a nexus so i may not root it since it doesn't come with bloatware and the new launcher looks nice as well as it supposedly being a speed racer with kitkat.

Bricking is rare and usually happens when people do not pay attention and complete the process incorrectly, or flash an incorrect ROM for a different of one/model. I suggest you look more into it if you want more from your android. Including access to the loads of root only apps on the play store.
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What would letting it completely die do?
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What would letting it completely die do?
I'm not an electrical physics expert by any means, but it somehow messes with the battery's ability to collect a proper full charge. So it ages your battery faster than it normally would by decreasing it's maximum capacity. I say it's best to get the phone on the charger between 5-15 percent and to turn it off to prevent it from fully dying if you can't get to a charger to help prolong it's life. It's more important to take proper care of your battery with it being non-removable rather a standard replaceable one that is easy to just discard and replace with another.
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I am not a developer/programmer/etc and thus am extremely wary of rooting and bricking my device Not to mention if I did it successfully, I have no idea what you just said. HAHAHA. Flashing and clocking and voltage, oh my!
Root by itself just gives you more control. By itself it won't change anything, but it allows you so so things you wouldn't normally be able to. The great thing about a nexus is its insanely easy to root, and very hard to brick. Google provides us with everything we need to recover a device in case something goes wrong, so things that may "brick" a different device are no problem on a nexus.

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What would letting it completely die do?
Keep in mind the phone will shut itself down before the battery completely dies. It does that to protect the battery from damage.

The risk of harm comes when the battery is discharged for extended periods of time and loses charge past that safe point, or if you continually try to power on the device after it shut itself down without recharging it.
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Just going through the 2012 Nexus 7 forum reveals many people having difficulty getting their device to turn back on and/or charge after letting the battery on it run empty.
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Back, just unlocked by bootloader, rooted, and installed the Faux123 kernel, using TricksterMOD to adjust my voltages and all that. Anyone know a good CPU monitor to monitor my CPU voltages to see if TricksterMOD is doing its job? Hoping most of my battery savings will go through here. There are apparently some people with faux getting almost 6 hours of SOT.
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Back, just unlocked by bootloader, rooted, and installed the Faux123 kernel, using TricksterMOD to adjust my voltages and all that. Anyone know a good CPU monitor to monitor my CPU voltages to see if TricksterMOD is doing its job? Hoping most of my battery savings will go through here. There are apparently some people with faux getting almost 6 hours of SOT.
Faux Kernel was always a personal favorite of mine. If I remember correctly from 4.3, there can be issues with TicksterMod settings not sticking if you don't have busybox installed. Don't know if that holds true in 4.4 or not though.
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Faux Kernel was always a personal favorite of mine. If I remember correctly from 4.3, there can be issues with TicksterMod settings not sticking if you don't have busybox installed. Don't know if that holds true in 4.4 or not though.
Yeah, I'm actually just gonna get Fauxclock by the end of tonight/tomorrow instead. Not really a fan of having to install multiple things from a third party app to work when Faux has his own app just chilling in the play store Heres to hoping my chip has a LOT of doping since this thing will see a lot of undervolting!
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Always been a Franco guy myself (when its been available for my device that is)
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Always been a Franco guy myself (when its been available for my device that is)
*Just got Fauxclock, seems to work fine. Now looking for a good CPU monitor to see if my changes are taking effect.

I was looking heavily at Franco too, but it seems like one of those risk/reward situations where you benefit more in some ways but there seems to be some instability and bugs with it.

Faux seems to just be a win win situation
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Only hit against Franco right now is his nexus 5 hasn't arrived yet, but other than that I dont see any other downsides.

He's the official kernel Dev for the paranoidandroid Dev team
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Only hit against Franco right now is his nexus 5 hasn't arrived yet, but other than that I dont see any other downsides.

He's the official kernel Dev for the paranoidandroid Dev team
Oh, no I've got nothing against either developer or either of their work seeing as I'm just a newbie. I'm simply stating what I see, and from what I see, Franco has some bugs going on for it is all while Faux seems to be without.
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I seem to have gotten a nasty wakelock from Hulu+ today. Never even opened the app today and yet it has eaten 25% of my battery and I can't even force stop it.
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He's the official kernel Dev for the paranoidandroid Dev team
I think Faux123 use to be an AOKP dev, because it was always the kernel that came with AOKP on the Gnex for quite a while. I could be totally wrong though.
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That's what I was planning to attempt, but I'm embarrased to say that I've never used it so I don't quite know how to use it
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Just download er, open it up, grant SU, hit the + sign, select the apps you want to freeze/greenify and you're good to go.

They won't run unless you open them
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