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Old November 11th, 2013, 05:53 PM   #151 (permalink)
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Just download er, open it up, grant SU, hit the + sign, select the apps you want to freeze/greenify and you're good to go.

They won't run unless you open them
Alright, that's what I figured. I have 2 hours of screen today and I'm at 51 percent. I'd still be near 65-70 if not for that hulu wakelock of almost 30 minutes straight.

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So how easy is it to root the nex5?
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So how easy is it to root the nex5?
Insanely easy. Nexus devices are the easiest ones to root.

We have a guide in the all things root section of the nexus 5 forum.
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Just going through the 2012 Nexus 7 forum reveals many people having difficulty getting their device to turn back on and/or charge after letting the battery on it run empty.
I know this is an old post, but I can definitely attest to it. If my '12 N7 is dead (usually from non-use), it can take a day or 2 to come back to life. I always think I killed it, but if plugged in for 2 full days, it'll have enough charge to boot.
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I'm seeing approximately the same battery life that I have with my Nexus 4, which is what I expected considering the similarity between the two phones. I can get through a day without charging unless it is a travel day. I don't have enough data points yet to post anything more useful than that. Last night at midnight, I arrived in Canada (Wind Mobile). So, I'm just starting my first day with my N5 on Wind. I've seen the same connectivity issues that I had with the N4 confirming that it isn't the phone, but rather Wind's network -- basically, their network sucks up on the 40th floor at my hotel. Even with constant searching for a signal from midnight until 9am, the phone only lost a few %age points of battery. In the US, in a non-LTE AT&T market, I'm seeing the same performance (speeds) and battery life as with my N4.
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So I've just gone through my first charge and I'm pretty happy with the battery life. I received the unit at 12:15 in the afternoon today and as of 4:45 I hit 10% before plugging it in. 3hr 15min screen on, WiFi on, and data off the entire time with the brightness set to auto. I didn't check the % at first but around 1:30 it was at 58% so I'm guessing it was around 70 when I first got it. I'll post more accurate readings tomorrow but so far I am thrilled. Way better than my old HTC One X.
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So, this may be a bit amateurish, but I was wondering whether it makes much a difference if you plug in the phone on or turn it off to charge. Which is better for battery life and performance? I understand turning the phone off every few days to reset things, but should it be a daily thing? I was always curious....
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So, this may be a bit amateurish, but I was wondering whether it makes much a difference if you plug in the phone on or turn it off to charge. Which is better for battery life and performance? I understand turning the phone off every few days to reset things, but should it be a daily thing? I was always curious....
It shouldn't affect anything other than time it takes to charge. Since the device will use some of the juice being provided to it to run, it will take longer to charge if on vs off.
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Overall, I've been very satisfied with how fast this device charges
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Overall, I've been very satisfied with how fast this device charges
Agreed, other Nexus devices have charged notoriously slow so this is a nice change.
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Agreed, other Nexus devices have charged notoriously slow so this is a nice change.
To me it's very slow...

The Nexus 5 is a massive improvement over absolutely everything over my old iPhone 4.

Except anything to do with the battery. That thing charged like a jack rabbit running from a bearded billy goat.
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To me it's very slow...

The Nexus 5 is a massive improvement over absolutely everything over my old iPhone 4.

Except anything to do with the battery. That thing charged like a jack rabbit running from a bearded billy goat.
It also had a much smaller battery, so it took less time to charge. Wasn't the iPhone 4 battery was only 1420mAh while this is 2300mAh. Also compared to how the Nexus 4 charged this is like a jack rabbit.
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Yeah ip4 was only 1420mAh
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It also had a much smaller battery, so it took less time to charge. Wasn't the iPhone 4 battery was only 1420mAh while this is 2300mAh. Also compared to how the Nexus 4 charged this is like a jack rabbit.
Yeah, the battery was far smaller; but it also lasted longer.

Though again, the N5 is better in pretty much better in every other way, and battery life is fixable; so I can imagine me becoming more and more satisfied with this little beauty every day.

And a beauty it is... Clean the screen and place it under a bright fluorescent light and the glare that goes on the screen just... -shivers- So clean... So neat... So... I'll stop now.
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Just to give you guys an idea of what the phone can do.....



..... if you leave it in your pocket for 4 days
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Just to give you guys an idea of what the phone can do.....
If you turn off wi-fi you could probably get another day and a half Probably a lot of wakelocks involved in there though, that seems kinda low.

Are you running any custom anything?

Although the real question is how you managed to keep your hands off the device for more than 4 days
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If you turn off wi-fi you could probably get another day and a half Probably a lot of wakelocks involved in there though, that seems kinda low.

Are you running any custom anything?

Although the real question is how you managed to keep your hands off the device for more than 4 days
No custom anything

I have a Moto X as my main phone and am waiting on a SIM adapter to arrive in the mail, basically I have played with the phone some but have been really busy and it is not signed in to my google account (its a work phone, signed in to a test account).

Once I can put my SIM in though I am going to give it more of a run through its paces.

I did switch it to ART instead of Dalvik, but that was somewhere in the middle of that 4 days. I have done some very very light web browsing but probably less than 15-20 sites. Plus I have tested my own app a little.
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No custom anything

I have a Moto X as my main phone and am waiting on a SIM adapter to arrive in the mail, basically I have played with the phone some but have been really busy and it is not signed in to my google account (its a work phone, signed in to a test account).

Once I can put my SIM in though I am going to give it more of a run through its paces.

I did switch it to ART instead of Dalvik, but that was somewhere in the middle of that 4 days. I have done some very very light web browsing but probably less than 15-20 sites. Plus I have tested my own app a little.
Ouu a Moto X. Nice device; was strongly thinking of getting it til' I caught wind the N5 was nigh. However, doesnt the Moto X use a microSIM?

I've been hearing a lot of mixed feedback on ART. I have decided to stay on Dalvik but of course will mess around a lot with kernels and rooting-- atleast until (and if ever) Google releases an update for the N5 that increases battery life and speaker volume.
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..... if you leave it in your pocket for 4 days
Pure sexy.
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I did switch it to ART instead of Dalvik, but that was somewhere in the middle of that 4 days.
So what is the diff between the two? I've seen a few posts of certain apps crashing in ART. I'm debating trying it to be with the "in crowd" but I feel Dalvik works just fine for me.
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I still haven't really "tested" my battery but today I'm going to see how long I can go without charging.

One thing I've noticed is that the phone charges very slowly when connected to my laptop via the usb cable that came with the phone. I generally keep my phone plugged in and charging when on my laptop and my iPhone always charged very fast via my laptop. I had my N5 connected last night for about 4 hours and it only moved from around 50% to 80%. At night, I've been using my Kindle's lightning adapter and that seems to work better.
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Usb 2.0 ports/cords only charge at roughly 500mAh, which means it would take theoretically 4 hours and 36 minutes to charge the device from empty to full if the device was off. If on, then the device is using some of that 500mAh that's going in and thus has less available to charge the device. In fact, if the device is using more than 500mAh, then it will actually still discharge even while plugged in because the extra juice will have to come from the battery.
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Usb 2.0 ports/cords only charge at roughly 500mAh, which means it would take theoretically 4 hours and 36 minutes to charge the device from empty to full if the device was off. If on, then the device is using some of that 500mAh that's going in and thus has less available to charge the device. In fact, if the device is using more than 500mAh, then it will actually still discharge even while plugged in because the extra juice will have to come from the battery.
Plus, iPhones are designed to charge at 500 mA, even from a wall charger.

An Android can take advantage and charge drawing a full ampere or more, depending on the model.
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Plus, iPhones are designed to charge at 500 mA, even from a wall charger.

An Android can take advantage and charge drawing a full ampere or more, depending on the model.
So, iPhones charge at the same rate as Androids? Then why is my N5 charging so much slower via the laptop? Sorry, I'm confused.
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So, iPhones charge at the same rate as Androids? Then why is my N5 charging so much slower via the laptop? Sorry, I'm confused.
iPhones and Androids will charge at the same rate via usb cable, about 500mA per hour. the iPhone 4 battery had a 1420mAh capacity and 1420/500 = 2 hours 54 minutes to charge from dead to full if off. The Nexus 5 has a 2300mAh capacity and 2300/500 = 4 hours 36 minutes to charge from dead to full if off. However plugging into a wall, the wall charger is 1200mA per hour. 2300/1200 = 1 hour 55 minutes by wall.
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So, iPhones charge at the same rate as Androids? Then why is my N5 charging so much slower via the laptop? Sorry, I'm confused.
They draw the same amount of current on a laptop, the maximum of 500mA per the USB spec.

Where the current gets used varies by device.

Androids love more current so that they can fast charge. iPhones don't so you never see a charging difference with those, laptop or not.

And quite often it's a matter of what is running in the background.

It's hard to get much running in the background on an iPhone by default and design. (Not being a hater, that's about iOS design and multitasking.)

Androids are easy to get a LOT running in the background. Sometimes more than you want.

When your screen is off, it should go quiet.

Check out "GSam Battery Monitor"

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm

You can use the graph, then Other button to see if your phone is staying awake when the screen is off. View in landscape for a better look.

As jhawkkw mentioned though - due to changes introduced back in Jellybean, as well as the current limiting, Androids do charge slower off of USB.

But it's offset by the larger battery.
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I can already attest that they have not yet updated to support either the Nexus 5 or KitKat yet. Not sure which one though because all it does is FC upon opening.
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I can already attest that they have not yet updated to support either the Nexus 5 or KitKat yet. Not sure which one though because all it does is FC upon opening.
Oh hamburgers!

Ok, hopefully they'll sort that quickly, sorry for creating confusion.

I think we agree though - Crystal getting only a 30% gain in 4 hours indicates that a good look at what's running is probably a good idea.
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Better battery stats has a series if betas on xda that work just fine with KK
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I posted on here yesterday about my battery issues. Seemed my phone was defective the way it was chewing up the battery.

Google said to do a factory reset.

I did that and now the battery is way better - at 82% with 7 hours off charge.
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It's also a less drastic solution will work-- a battery pull. Of course, you can't pull the battery, but you get the same effect with a soft reset. Hold the power button down (ignore the pop up menu for powering down) until the N5 reboots spontaneously. May not work, but it works for a lot on the ephemeral wonky stuff that seems to happen on electronics.
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Please tap the graph, see if it brings another up, show us that also if so.
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It did. Here it is. Though I'm charging my phone now.
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It did. Here it is. Though I'm charging my phone now.
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Do you do much social networking, like Facebook perhaps?

Your awake time isn't terrible but it could be quieter more when your screen is off.

Here's mine as an example - not your phone, not KitKat, but just for example. Notice that when the screen is off, you want very little power draw.

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(Don't mind the glitch in the middle, I reset it at that point.)

Also noticing that your mobile signal seems to vary some, you'll lose power if you're having reception issues.
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Here's mine as an example - not your phone, not KitKat, but just for example. Notice that when the screen is off, you want very little power draw.

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This pic is so blurry. Nothing is legible.
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Thanks! I don't know how to turn my screen off but I'll look into it. I lowered the brightness but saw it was still my main power draw.
I'm not sure about my carrier signal. I have an AT&T account. I simply took my SIM out of my iPhone and put it in my N5. My iPhone always said 4G in the taskbar but this phone either doesn't show a letter or it says "H" and I have no idea what that means. I looked for a notification key but couldn't find one. Do you know?
For the most part I was at home and on my Wi-Fi.

(The images aren't showing for me in the app. I'll look when I get home and get on my laptop.)

ETA: yes, I do a lot of social networking as I am a social media manager/digital marketeer.
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AT&T started marketing their hspa+ network as 4G even though it's generally not as impressive as LTE. That's what the h on your signal bars.
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I did. It must just be my N5? O.o
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If on a mobile browser, try a long press, open link in new window.

That's a compressed 720p image, so it's not going to look fabulous on your display, but ought to be legible.
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I may have an explanation for some people...

Do you use IMAP/Exchange?

If so.. your drain issues are possibly caused by a bug in the email app.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=61785


Seems to be 2 themes with this issue as I just got bit by it myself.
1. You get set up okay but then sync starts to fail and go into sync mode
over and over again in the background and eats your battery...
2. Or you just can't get it set up in which case... no email and no batt drain.

Hope this some of you with battery issues.
I can confirm that I now have massive battery drain but it's caused by the email app going into hyperactive sync while not downloading any messages.
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I have it setup to sync every hour, and according to betterbatterystats that's all its doing.

Did you have it syncing more frequently?
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If you have a link to this, that'd be awesome as I love BBS...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809

You'll want the 1.15 beta 5
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Anyone else getting the NlpCollectorWakeLock?

Its my second largest wake lock aside from my AudioMix (because I play music a lot, I assume.)

Anyone know any remedies for it?

By the way, quick question. What Location setting do I set to in order to save as much battery life as possible but still have Maps work? (Maps is the only location app I really care about... And maybe the Google now weather)

Every time I use my maps, it bugs me about not having my GPS orwifi on, so I need to go and change it to High Accuracy. But if I set to Device Only, it STILL bugs me! Any solutions?
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Anyone else getting the NlpCollectorWakeLock?

Its my second largest wake lock aside from my AudioMix (because I play music a lot, I assume.)

Anyone know any remedies for it?

By the way, quick question. What Location setting do I set to in order to save as much battery life as possible but still have Maps work? (Maps is the only location app I really care about... And maybe the Google now weather)

Every time I use my maps, it bugs me about not having my GPS orwifi on, so I need to go and change it to High Accuracy. But if I set to Device Only, it STILL bugs me! Any solutions?
Its a location wake lock. Only reason to really get rid of it entirely would be to get rid of location services.

You can limit it by limiting the usual suspects: Google now, changing location accuracy to battery saving, turn off location history, ect
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Depends what your Maps use is.

For navigation, GPS might be all you need.

However - we have aGPS, the a is for assisted.

If your terrain or environment leaves you occluded and unable to maintain a sufficient GPS sky view, navigation will fall back to the less accurate but still effective method of triangulation from cell towers.

Without that problem, navigation works fine regardless of how much Maps complains.

I leave Google location off, my Google weather is happy with an occasional GPS query to get my location.
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Depends what your Maps use is.

For navigation, GPS might be all you need.

However - we have aGPS, the a is for assisted.

If your terrain or environment leaves you occluded and unable to maintain a sufficient GPS sky view, navigation will fall back to the less accurate but still effective method of triangulation from cell towers.

Without that problem, navigation works fine regardless of how much Maps complains.

I leave Google location off, my Google weather is happy with an occasional GPS query to get my location.
Looks like I'll be telling it to use Device Only.

Is there any way to tell it to shut up about enabling both my Wifi and GPS just to use navigation?
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There's a box to check when it pops up not to notify you again
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