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Old November 15th, 2013, 05:19 PM   #201 (permalink)
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My battery just did something odd. At 2:23 my battery dropped to 20%, but when I unlocked my phone at 2:58 it was at 21%. First time it's happened to me. Anyone else experience this?

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My battery has been horrible. I have gotten 3-4 hours each, after about 4 charges. I have it on airplane mode right now because my contract is not up until next month. I use it mostly to surf with chrome and play candy crush. Does this mean I have a bad battery?
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My battery has been horrible. I have gotten 3-4 hours each, after about 4 charges. I have it on airplane mode right now because my contract is not up until next month. I use it mostly to surf with chrome and play candy crush. Does this mean I have a bad battery?
3-4 hours of screen on time or standby time
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My battery just did something odd. At 2:23 my battery dropped to 20%, but when I unlocked my phone at 2:58 it was at 21%. First time it's happened to me. Anyone else experience this?
These battery %s are approximations and it is not unusual to have it jump back up a notch when your screen is off for a while. For all intents and purposes, at this level of accuracy, 20 = 21.
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I have it setup to sync every hour, and according to betterbatterystats that's all its doing.

Did you have it syncing more frequently?
Nope, defaults.
on IMAP it's every 15.

Overnight it failed and it took my battery from just about full charge to 10%.
The culprit was the email app.
That's when I went searching and found that thread.

I know a lot of people use IMAP and Exchange so I figured I would put that in here for those that get bitten.

I just did a data clear of the email app and set everything back up.
I have been removing the account and re-adding it to get my email during the day but at least I was not killing the battery.

I am trying to think about what might have changed.. since it just started last night because I set my work email up within an hour of getting the phone and had no issue with it.

Now... it's a battery killer
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I got mine yesterday with a charge of 75%.


It should last a day of moderate to heavy usage, however the battery wont be set until it is charged 3-5 times.
Why do you say this as I thought lithium batteries do not have a memory like the Ni Cads do ??
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Why do you say this as I thought lithium batteries do not have a memory like the Ni Cads do ??
They don't. They actually don't like to be completely drained, which is why phones shut down before it happens. When your phone is dead, the battery isn't completely drained, just enough to stay idle. If you let your phone sit while dead, the battery will slowly drain and if you let it fully deplete there is a high chance it will never charge again. Good battery health is to charge your phone when its around 10% until its at 100% and then take it off asap. Every couple weeks or so let it die and then charge it to 100% while off. This will help your battery last and your phone continue to operate swiftly.
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Unlike others the Google Play Services on my N5 is using up the bulk of my battery!
Is there any way to disable it or turn it down?



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Thanks jhawkkw.
You're right.
I just rebooted and it disappeared!

Man I thought Android is far better than Windows which needs rebooting to speed up the OS!LOL!

Next time I notice this I'll reboot!

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I just rebooted and it disappeared!

Man I thought Android is far better than Windows which needs rebooting to speed up the OS!LOL!

Next time I notice this I'll reboot!

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Normally just force stopping it would be enough, but we don't get the option to do so in the app manager.
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I got hit by that today as well. Generally rebooting the device kills the service.
I was also hit by this Google Play Services battery drain - turning off Location services has completely eradicated the problem. The location settings even showed high battery usage from Google Play services. Yesterday it was using 60%+ of my battery.

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Today, Google Play services doesn't even appear in my battery usage and I have a noticeable improvement in battery.

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Last Night I rooted and installed the nitrous rom. This morning I unplugged at 6am. I've done some email, some amazon, bbm, browsing and lots of tethering. And this is where I'm at. I think it's pretty good.

Well I was unable to upload the file, but it said 51%
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Last Night I rooted and installed the nitrous rom. This morning I unplugged at 6am. I've done some email, some amazon, bbm, browsing and lots of tethering. And this is where I'm at. I think it's pretty good.

Well I was unable to upload the file, but it said 51%
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Maybe I don't use my phone as much as some but right now I'm at 22hrs at 76% battery. Someone tell me how to do a screen shot and I will share.
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Hold Vol down + power for about 2-3 seconds
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Like I said not as heavy use as most but still a typical day for me at work. Either way I am happy with the battery. Off today so I'll do some heavier use and see what I get.
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Well today
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46% remaining
2h30 Screen on

Not complaining
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Not complaining
Was just about to post literally the same thing

11h55
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4h16m screen

this is my first day of real heavy useage for me. So happy about the battery.

On light useage I'm charging every 2 days. Unbelievable, especially coming from my last phone that died after 6 hours light useage.
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Good battery health is to charge your phone when its around 10% until its at 100% and then take it off asap. Every couple weeks or so let it die and then charge it to 100% while off. This will help your battery last and your phone continue to operate swiftly.
is this true? every night my phone is only around 40% with my daily use... do I need to star just streaming youtube videos or heavy games to drop the battery? I never charge over night but in the morning usually from 30-40% to 100% and take off charger right away.

very seldom is my phone under 30% though
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They don't. They actually don't like to be completely drained, which is why phones shut down before it happens. When your phone is dead, the battery isn't completely drained, just enough to stay idle. If you let your phone sit while dead, the battery will slowly drain and if you let it fully deplete there is a high chance it will never charge again. Good battery health is to charge your phone when its around 10% until its at 100% and then take it off asap. Every couple weeks or so let it die and then charge it to 100% while off. This will help your battery last and your phone continue to operate swiftly.
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is this true? every night my phone is only around 40% with my daily use... do I need to star just streaming youtube videos or heavy games to drop the battery? I never charge over night but in the morning usually from 30-40% to 100% and take off charger right away.

very seldom is my phone under 30% though
I would disagree both with letting the battery drain to 10% (unless you have no choice) and with taking it off the charger asap at 100%. In general, Li-Ions, from my understanding, are fine with top-offs and actually do better with them and they have a protection circuit that works just fine.

Frequetly Asked Questions on How to Charge Batteries

I have always set my handhelds to charge overnight on my bedside whether they were at 30% or 90% and have never had battery performance be reduced by doing that.
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this is my first day of real heavy useage for me. So happy about the battery.

On light useage I'm charging every 2 days. Unbelievable, especially coming from my last phone that died after 6 hours light useage.
That is very decent!

What are your brightness settings? I'm running at around 50% set. I never did like auto.
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That is very decent!

What are your brightness settings? I'm running at around 50% set. I never did like auto.
I'm on auto.

I also have Google Now totally disabled. Never have and never will see the hype of it tbh. So that may add a bit more life to the battery.
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Absolutely love this battery. I put it through it's paces yesterday these are the stats. Under normal useage, I'm left with 30 to 40 percent at the end of the day. Nice knowing what the limits are on this thing.
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I never use the phone this much
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It appears that your battery is even better!

Or is that to do with the custom rom you have on there?
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Or is that to do with the custom rom you have on there?
I am ROM'd and kernel'd . Likely more to do with the kernel than the ROM.
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So I am having an issue with the having to reboot my phone about twice a day to keep it from draining the battery. It will randomly start to drain the battery 2 or 3% every 5-10 minutes. I checked and the Google play service in running under the running apps. I stop all of it, but it does not seem to help that much. It does not stop until I reboot the device. Is this normal, or do I have a bad unit?
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So I am having an issue with the having to reboot my phone about twice a day to keep it from draining the battery. It will randomly start to drain the battery 2 or 3% every 5-10 minutes. I checked and the Google play service in running under the running apps. I stop all of it, but it does not seem to help that much. It does not stop until I reboot the device. Is this normal, or do I have a bad unit?
Do you use location? I had this problem with Google Play services completely draining my battery, and I only use location for weather occasionally. So try either:

- Ensuring location settings are not on 'high accuracy' and just on battery saving mode

- turn location services off

Both those solutions have worked for me
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Do you use location? I had this problem with Google Play services completely draining my battery, and I only use location for weather occasionally. So try either:

- Ensuring location settings are not on 'high accuracy' and just on battery saving mode

- turn location services off

Both those solutions have worked for me
Thanks man I will give a try
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My battery life is going to be lower than most from just having bluetooth running all the time.

What ROM are you running Rx?
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I never use the phone this much
Which rom and kernel are you on?
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Old December 1st, 2013, 09:39 AM   #237 (permalink)
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My WiFi and Bluetooth stay on and I get great mileage with FKU undervolted -50 Cataclysm ROM.
Location off, battery saving mode.
Im normally at about 60 by end of the day.
Cant show pic just took off the charger. Ill post tonight with details.
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Only odd thing about my battery life is it will drop from %100 to %80 in about 2 hours. But then I can run Pandora constantly, browse the web and some gaming and I still have %40 6 hours later.

I think it's just bad at measuring battery capacity.
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My battery life is going to be lower than most from just having bluetooth running all the time.

What ROM are you running Rx?
Cataclysm and Franco test 15
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My WiFi and Bluetooth stay on and I get great mileage with FKU undervolted -50 Cataclysm ROM.
Location off, battery saving mode.
Im normally at about 60 by end of the day.
Cant show pic just took off the charger. Ill post tonight with details.
My bluetooth is always connected and is actively tethering to my Google glass when I'm out and about. It's quite the battery drain
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I never manage to get much more than 2 hours on screen battery life. My phone's barely used since I'm at school for like 6 hours, I do keep it on during then though.

I'm using Franco's Kernel 14 as well and I haven't seen any change compared to the stock kernel! Have I got a faulty model or something?


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i. imgur.com/jpXlXHn. png

(Had to use spaces since I'm not allowed to post images yet...)

I've also got the Battery Guru app installed. Still didn't improve once learning mode finished. It can get me through the day but I just wondered why I'm not getting anywhere near as much on screen time even though I'm a pretty light / moderate user
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For a different perspective here are my findings.
I still have a few days with verizon contract but I received my N5 a few days ago. Since I haven't switched over yet, my N5 is not activated on a network. However, its rooted and I more or less mirrored it to my GN.

So for the last 4 days the N5 is:
-rooted
-no cell network
-wifi on 24/7
-bt on 24/7
-google back up Disabled
-running nova launcher
-google now enabled
-location on
-live wallpaper in use
-3 widgets

For the past 9 hours I haven't touched it. It was 100% charged last night when I unplugged and went to bed. Its now at 94% charged.

Using GSAM battery monitor. 30% of the battery use is reported from wifi. Interestingly 19% of battery use is from phone radio (seeking a network?).

Google play is near the top of the list of battery usage and has been every day. For the first few days it was way up on top with lots of wake locks. I use app ops to turn off location and wake. Play is no longer at the top but still demanding. After google play, the next set of apps that uses the most battery are the widgets and live wallpaper but not really significant though all of them added up does make a dent. One thing I realized from GSAM is that the widgets in my default launcher is also using up batteries so I went and removed those since I'm on nova most of the time.

Next I will restore tasker. I know that on the GN, tasker really eats up my battery. But the usefulness outweighs the battery drain. I'll do this on my N5 and see how it holds up.
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I never manage to get much more than 2 hours on screen battery life. My phone's barely used since I'm at school for like 6 hours, I do keep it on during then though.

I'm using Franco's Kernel 14 as well and I haven't seen any change compared to the stock kernel! Have I got a faulty model or something?


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Here's onscreen time:
i. imgur.com/jpXlXHn. png

(Had to use spaces since I'm not allowed to post images yet...)

I've also got the Battery Guru app installed. Still didn't improve once learning mode finished. It can get me through the day but I just wondered why I'm not getting anywhere near as much on screen time even though I'm a pretty light / moderate user
I got the same issue. Google play services just eat my battery away. I have even turned the location setting off completely. The only way I have found to fix it. Is the reboot the phone.
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I got the same issue. Google play services just eat my battery away. I have even turned the location setting off completely. The only way I have found to fix it. Is the reboot the phone.
Make sure you don't have a wake lock.
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I never manage to get much more than 2 hours on screen battery life. My phone's barely used since I'm at school for like 6 hours, I do keep it on during then though.

I'm using Franco's Kernel 14 as well and I haven't seen any change compared to the stock kernel! Have I got a faulty model or something?


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Here's onscreen time:
i. imgur.com/jpXlXHn. png

(Had to use spaces since I'm not allowed to post images yet...)

I've also got the Battery Guru app installed. Still didn't improve once learning mode finished. It can get me through the day but I just wondered why I'm not getting anywhere near as much on screen time even though I'm a pretty light / moderate user
You should try different kernels. For some reason Franco's kernel drains my battery so much. Once I switched to a different kernel my battery got way better. There are many kernels and Roms over at XDA forums you should check it out
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You should try different kernels. For some reason Franco's kernel drains my battery so much. Once I switched to a different kernel my battery got way better. There are many kernels and Roms over at XDA forums you should check it out
Do you have any recommendations? Which one are you using now?
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Do you have any recommendations? Which one are you using now?
I have this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2518660

And currently testing out this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509655

Only if you're familiar with rooting and flashing
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I'm gonna flash Paranoid Android once that comes out.

Do you have any opinions on faux's kernel? What would you say about the kernel you're currently testing? I just need something that gives me the battery life that I see everyone else getting on stock
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Make sure you don't have a wake lock.
How can I check? I thought all the battery monitoring apps would not work with KitKat. Google search seems to be the thing that keeps popping up on my battery stock app.
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How can I check? I thought all the battery monitoring apps would not work with KitKat. Google search seems to be the thing that keeps popping up on my battery stock app.
You need root to use the really detailed ones. Other than that, they work just fine.
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