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Old March 13th, 2014, 11:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Android 4.4.3? (ITS OUT!! 6/2)

Heard rumors of this due to people still having battery drain issues due to the camera. I have no issues myself, and Google has failed to actually announce this update.

What do you guys think? Who's having issues still on 4.4.2?

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Given that google has officially acknowledged the bug, and has promised a fix (at least for the Nexus series) in the near future, I think we can safely say that it is not just a rumor.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=60058#c475

I experienced the bug a few times, but I was able to fix it by disabling Skype's access to the camera using app ops (I'm rooted).
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The "near future" could very well be the next android version release at google I/O. We don't know the version number or the time frame.

All we know at this point is they're going to address it
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Yeah, they haven't been clear as to when the update will hit. Thankfully they know and are committed to fixing the issue though.
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I have it on good authority that our next version of Android will be a major update and it should be here before I/O.
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I have it on good authority that our next version of Android will be a major update and it should be here before I/O.
Do you have a public link to information or is this something you can't share any more info about?
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Looks like were starting to get some leaks rolling out:
First Android 4.4.3 Details Come To Light - Here Is What You Should Expect To See Fixed

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  • mm-qcamera-daemon crash and optimization fixes
  • camera focus in regular and HDR modes fixes
  • Power Manager display wakelock fix
  • multiple Bluetooth fixes
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  • USB debugging security fix
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  • Wi-Fi auto-connect fix
  • other camera fixes
  • MMS, Email/Exchange, Calendar, People/Dialer/Contacts, DSP, IPv6, VPN fixes
  • stuck in activation screen fix
  • missed call LED fix
  • subtitle fixes
  • data usage graph fix
  • Internet telephony fix
  • FCC compliance fix
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Two of my fellow developers got 4.4.3 (final dev version) today.

Rumor suggests the consumer version will begin to be pushed out around April 10th.

Note: this is completely unofficial
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I am new to Android and to smart phones in general, so I apologise in advance if my question appears silly.

When 4.4.3 comes out, will my phone (Nexus 5) automatically upgrade, or will I receive some sort of notification inviting me to install it and giving me the option of not doing so?

Call me paranoid, but I have experienced Microsoft 'upgrading' Windows from XP to Vista, then W7 to W8, both of which in my opinion were definite steps backward! I'm sure Android 4.4.3 is likely to be an improvement, but I'd prefer to read users' comments first before taking the step.
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Soon as 4.4.3 is out I'll be all over it, there's a couple of things I'd like fixing (Wifi auto connect fix although that's only on my N10 & the camera bug on my N5)

You won't be forced to download it. (I never had issues with Vista and W8 once I'd tailored them to my needs )
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You'll receive a notification - Software update available (or similar).
You can usually:

Download and install

Download and install later

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4.4.3 should be a safe one to go ahead and install, and its just bug fixes and not introducing any new functionality.

Completely understand wanting to wait for feedback

Note that Google does the same thing. The first date the update gets released, it goes out to a very few number of people and they monitor their support lines closely. If all goes well, it gradually rolls out to more and more people over the course of 1-2 weeks.
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Two of my fellow developers got 4.4.3 (final dev version) today.
so... umm... you work for El Goog?
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4.4.3 should be a safe one to go ahead and install, and its just bug foxes and not introducing any new functionality.

Completely understand wanting to wait for feedback

Note that Google does the same thing. The first date the update gets released, it goes out to a very few number of people and they monitor their support lines closely. If all goes well, it gradually rolls out to more and more people over the course of 1-2 weeks.
I must say that I think that's an excellent way to go about things.

Microsoft take note!
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Better explained by google engineer Dan Morrill:
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Rollouts are conducted in phases. Typically they start at 1% of devices for around 24 - 48 hours; we watch the return rates and resulting device checkins and error reports (if any), and make sure nothing looks wrong before sending it to more. Then typically it goes to 25%, 50%, 100% over the course of a week or two.
What the percentages mean is that when your device checks in, it has a 1% chance (for example) of being offered the OTA. If it doesn't (randomly) get an offer, it will never get an offer until the next batch.
IOW, once your device checks in and gets turned down, that's it until the next batch. Mashing on the "check for updates" button just causes your device to check in again, and get automatically turned down again. Think about how that makes your device feel! WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE PHONES?!
That said, once the new batch does start, hitting that button does give you a new roll of the dice -- but once. Since devices usually only check in for system updates every 24 hours (I think? Certainly on a many-hours basis) this can get you your shot sooner than it would happen on its own.
So, mash away. Just be patient, and mashing on it more often than once or twice a day isn't going to gain you anything.
Edit: also, keep in mind that this isn't first-come/first-served. You're not racing other devices to get your slot in the current batch, or something.
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I had read about something that Sprint was trying...
Ask And You Shall Receive: Sprint's HTC One KitKat Update Is Live For Manual Requests, Wide Rollout Starts 2-11

Instead of the usual way of sending update at random to some devices in waves, they would make the download available to the users who goes in to look for updates (mashing the check for update button). A majority of customers don't care about (or aren't aware of) the update anyway, so why not send the update out to the folks who are eagerly waiting for it?

The update still does get pushed out in waves to everyone, but the ones who "check for update" get it right away.

I love that idea! (I don't think Sprint got it working this way for everyone, but the concept was good). Wish El Goog would do the same.
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I'd imagine most people running a nexus device would care about getting the update, so I'm not sure how helpful that method would be for us . Chances are a developer will post the OTA update file before your device is selected for the update process anyway, so those who still want it as soon as possible can still get it that way.

For regular phones like the S5 or the ONE that is a good idea to let those who want it most get it fastest. I'm suprised more updates don't roll out in that manner.
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First Android 4.4.3 Details Come To Light - Here Is What You Should Expect To See Fixed
  • frequent data connection dropout fix
  • mm-qcamera-daemon crash and optimization fixes
  • camera focus in regular and HDR modes fixes
  • Power Manager display wakelock fix
  • multiple Bluetooth fixes
  • fix for a random reboot
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  • other camera fixes
  • MMS, Email/Exchange, Calendar, People/Dialer/Contacts, DSP, IPv6, VPN fixes
  • stuck in activation screen fix
  • missed call LED fix
  • subtitle fixes
  • data usage graph fix
  • Internet telephony fix
  • FCC compliance fix
  • miscellaneous fixes
I'm happy to see this - the fixes in bold are for issues I have had, ranging from minorly annoying to majorly frustrating!
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I'm curious about the FCC compliance fix
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Chances are a developer will post the OTA update file before your device is selected for the update process anyway, so those who still want it as soon as possible can still get it that way.
yep - xda usually has the OTA zip file available the same day
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I use to look forward to early updates but don't anymore.I'm happy for others to find the next generation teething problems.
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there is a rumor floating around in a sprint forum that they may get spark triband update on monday the 14th along with some bug fixes. email from someone from dan@sprint. so regular nexus 5 users are hoping that it is 4.4.3 and the alleged FCC compliance fix is the spark.
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Sprint seems to be rolling it out first, Spark included for you Sprinters!

Sprint: New Nexus 5 update rolling out today | Android Central

Just in time... I'll have my Nexus 5 early next week
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Nice, I just got upgraded LTE towers kicking in at my apartment over the weekend
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LTE over 3 different bands. Its got the potential for insane speeds, but isnt fully rolled out yet. Only a few markets right now
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Sprint seems to be rolling it out first, Spark included for you Sprinters!

Sprint: New Nexus 5 update rolling out today | Android Central

Just in time... I'll have my Nexus 5 early next week
Android Police has another take:

Android 4.4.3 (Build KTU48F) For The Nexus 5 Should Start Rolling Out Today, According To Sprint | androidpolice.com
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Sprint doesn't roll out the updates, so itll start the rollout to all nexus 5's today. You may not get it for a week or two through due to the rollout (described above here).

Sprint just announced it because they had a marketing incentive to let people know spark was here.

Keep in mind the original source for all of these is here:
http://support.sprint.com/support/article/Find_and_update_the_software_version_on_your_Googl e_Nexus_5/WServiceAdvisory_542_GKB61196
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Sprint Spark combines 4G FDD1-LTE at 800 Megahertz (MHz) and 1.9 Gigahertz (GHz) and TDD1-LTE at 2.5GHz spectrum, TDD-LTE technology (2.5GHz), and carrier aggregation in the 2.5GHz band. These spectrum assets, technology and architecture are designed to deliver a seamless customer experience via tri-band wireless devices. Tri-band devices, named for their ability to accommodate multiple spectrum bands, support active hand-off mode between 800MHz, 1.9GHz and 2.5GHz, providing data session continuity as the device moves between spectrum bands."
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I wonder when 4.4.3 will be coming to those who bought from the play store but on AT&T.
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it does not matter where you bought it from or who is your carrier. on post # 21 of this thread its explained.
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FYI, Sprint had a typo in 4.4.3 doc - it's really KTU84F, not KTU48F. Same build as was being dogfed. Looks like testing went OK after all.

Also according to Sprint, the 4.4.3 Nexus 5 update will be rolled out in batches from 4/14 - 4/21.
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Anyone that's not on sprint get the update?
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Anyone that's not on sprint get the update?
I haven't seen a report from anyone receiving it yet. Per the normal google rollout 1% of devices get it in the first timeframe.

The carrier doesn't matter, as Google is the one pushing the updates.
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The only thing that matters to me is when Google plans to release the source for 4.4.3. That's it.
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at the sprint forum they are waiting too. there was some grumbling as how sprint jumped the gun at the time of 4.4.2 too.
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at the sprint forum they are waiting too. there was some grumbling as how sprint jumped the gun at the time of 4.4.2 too.
Yeah no sightings of it on G+, twitter, here, or Xda yet

No worries, it'll come eventually
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I hate it when a date comes out regarding an update, the wait and the "Is it here yet?" threads are painful
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I hate it when a date comes out regarding an update, the wait and the "Is it here yet?" threads are painful
should have seen the xda yesterday. mods were locking threads right and left . only one sticky thread allowed now 30 pages long that reads like an iphone thead
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Bumped some root related questions over to 4.4.3 rooted OTA/upgrade questions

Lets keep this area pristine for the non-rooters
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yup let's keep them away from the goodies.
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Have not heard anything about the Kit Kat upgrade to 4.4.3 lately.

Someone in the know said something about it containing a camera update but Google has released that already as a separate app.

Any news?
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There's camera fixes for wakelocks in it, along with a bunch of other bug fixes.

Something must have happened during the internal soak test. Better they discover and fix issues then than when its rolling out
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Well, whaddya know... a wild 4.4.3 changelog appears!

Android 4.4.3 Changelog Turns Up In AOSP With Every Modification Since KitKat 4.4
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May 23rd it's supposed to be roling out
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any source that you can quote?
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Android 4.4.3 KitKat Update for Google Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 to Roll Out on May 23
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