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Old August 21st, 2012, 10:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Google Nexus 7 now supports USB drives and SD cards without rooting! | Mobile Fun Blog

Use USB drives etc via the OTG cable without rooting using this app!

(havent tried it yet but sounds good.) its read only, no writing to the storage, but fine for accessing media for playback on the nexus.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.importer
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I added 'Read-only' to the title just to make it a bit more clear.
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ohh wow thats cool.. im going to order OTG cable and usb flash drive right now!
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this flash drive is in my cart 16gb
Amazon.com: SanDisk Cruzer Fit 16 GB USB Flash Drive SDCZ33-016G-B35: Electronics

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Amazon.com: Micro USB OTG to USB 2.0 Adapter: Cell Phones & Accessories

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Been playing with it a bit and it's working perfectly with my otg cable and various flash drives and sd cards. Movies and music both stream perfectly. Very impressed, well worth the money.
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it says that sandisk cruzer fit has average Read speed @ 16.5 MB/s is this enough for 3gb movie?

those are the specs of the movies that i usually watch


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Yes, that's more than enough - I don't think HD video is actually that demanding.

That video has a bitrate of 4.7Mb/s. Bear in mind too that a megabyte (MB) is 8x bigger than a megabit (Mb), so you're using ~0.6MB/s out of 16.5MB/s.
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Yes, that's more than enough - I don't think HD video is actually that demanding.

That video has a bitrate of 4.7Mb/s. Bear in mind too that a megabyte (MB) is 8x bigger than a megabit (Mb), so you're using ~0.6MB/s out of 16.5MB/s.

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This is an awesome app, but it doesn't work with exFAT-formatted drives, or didn't for me anyway.
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Hells yes! Thanks very much. This was my main motivation for considering rooting, but I really didn't want to go through the hassle. Works well, though not quite a full-fledged file explorer experience.

Just moved a bunch of pdf presentations from a conference I just attended onto the Nexus 7 for the plane ride home from the little usb stick on my keychain. Works well, though it took me a moment to figure out the bottom half of the screen is reserved as a preview area. At first I thought it didn't detect all of the files.
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Be aware that when you play a large file like HD movies from a thumb drive, your playback is going to stutter now and then as the device tries to keep up with the caching. You will want to copy the entire file onto your device and play it from the device. The file copy itself is pretty time consuming.
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Be aware that when you play a large file like HD movies from a thumb drive, your playback is going to stutter now and then as the device tries to keep up with the caching. You will want to copy the entire file onto your device and play it from the device. The file copy itself is pretty time consuming.

Wow, really cool. I wish this had been around earlier!

You said the file copy is time consuming. That may depend on the speed of the flash drive. Some, like Patriot, are very fast (no I don't own any stock or affiliated, I am just an impressed and happy customer!!!!)
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I find that it depends on the movie. Very large movies (like 1080p) that have lots of data per frame and need to be scaled down to fit on the screen do indeed have some problems playing from my sdcard, but a typical highly compressed 720p movie seems to play just fine for me with no problems.
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Amazon.com: SanDisk Cruzer Fit CZ33 32GB USB Flash Drive (SDCZ33-032G-B35): Computers & Accessories

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Great news!

Edit:- What does everyone think is the best solution for portability using this app?
I'd like to go with a micro SD card and a card reader with a micro USB plug but can't seem to find one. Am I just not looking hard enough? Are there any disadvantages to this vs the pen drive method?
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Well i just went to the play store to download this but i get the message that my nexus 7 and my gnex are not supported, i have emailed the dev to get some help. Anyone else get this problem ??
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Just went to the Play Store today and the app is GONE! Missed it by that much...
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No Longer in the Play store.........gutted as just what i have been waiting for :-(
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Noooooo! I've contacted the dev, hopefully we'll be able to get it elsewhere.
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Darn the one day i didn't check this forms earlier lol and I miss this cool app...I done a Google search and its non where to be found ..
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I think I saw it in Appbrain. How does that site work, and has anyone tried it?
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I think I saw it in Appbrain. How does that site work, and has anyone tried it?
appbrain loads apps to your phone much like the Play store. saves a list per device on its site. you can choose a bunch of apps to install and it will sync with your device all at once.
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appbrain loads apps to your phone much like the Play store. saves a list per device on its site. you can choose a bunch of apps to install and it will sync with your device all at once.
But I think they still direct you to the Play store...no sideloading. I tried to get it through Appbrain and it just directs me to the store when I direct it to install. Hopefully I'm wrong!
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Was on XDA looking around. This is from the dev:

I have a bit of a volume issue. I've gone from 10-> 20-> 50-> 100-> 600 downloads per day. I do not have the support structure (or time) for this many people with a product that is this immature. I'm taking the app down until I can get support under control. You should be able to continue to use the application if you have already purchased it.

and he posted at 10:52 this morning....

Version 2.0.3 REMOVES exFAT SUPPORT.

I've re-added the app with to the market with the disclaimer that I may not be able to support it due to current volume.

I believe there is a risk Microsoft could have started a legal battle I could not win. If I lose, you lose too. I believe I have a work-around that will avoid US Patent # US2009164539, but it's going to take some time to implement. I will attempt to add it back as a free plugin, which I will disclose the code for.

If anyone cannot wait, I will issue a refund if you send me your order #.
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I just tried to download it from AppBrain. No go. There is a thread on this at XDA.
[app]Nexus 7 External Flash Picture Viewer & Media Streamer - Page 6 - xda-developers
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Just a reminder to everyone, but this was a paid application.

The fact that it was taken down from the market does not give you permission to pirate it.

I've already deleted some posts about this and I'll let those slide, but any more attempts to share the .apk will be dealt with as per the forum rules.
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Just a reminder to everyone, but this was a paid application.

The fact that it was taken down from the market does not give you permission to pirate it.

I've already deleted some posts about this and I'll let those slide, but any more attempts to share the .apk will be dealt with as per the forum rules.
Apologies, didn't realise it was paid.
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Apologies, didn't realise it was paid.
Yeah, it's £1.27.

It's also back on the market, for now, at least.
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Its a shame that what would be an extremely useful app which would make money could not be taken over by a bigger developer who could offer the support it needs and deal with any patent issues.

Anyone know a Dev company willing to take it on?:
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I just tried to download from Appbrain again and this time it took me to the play store where I was able to purchase and download. Whew! Would have hated to miss out on this very useful app!
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Can someone explain the ex fat support removal and what it means feature wise (I guess it's to do with formatting)?

I have 2.0.2 and don't know whether to update or not.
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omg how the hell he knows about US Patent # US2009164539? Did MS contact him? or they have some people on google play store that check Patents?
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Can someone explain the ex fat support removal and what it means feature wise (I guess it's to do with formatting)?

I have 2.0.2 and don't know whether to update or not.
exFAT is a file system, like NTFS, FAT32 or ext2/3/4. Long story short, it determines how files are stored on your hard drive/sdcard/etc. So yeah, when you format something, that's when you wipe all of the data and then change/reapply the file sytem.

Just a guess, but presumably Microsoft have a patent involving its usage. I know they have something similar for NTFS, which is the one windows uses.
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OK, I guess my thumb drive will be FAT32...
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Yeah, that's almost certainly what it will be, unless you've changed it yourself.
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For UK users try this link for OTG cable (one user specifies Nexus 7):-

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I bought 3 unbelievably cheap OTG adapters shipped from Hong Kong (about $1 each). I figured one would be bound to work. I'm still waiting for the last one to make it through customs (or wherever it is hung up), but the first two that showed up work fine:

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exFAT is a file system, like NTFS, FAT32 or ext2/3/4. Long story short, it determines how files are stored on your hard drive/sdcard/etc. So yeah, when you format something, that's when you wipe all of the data and then change/reapply the file sytem.

Just a guess, but presumably Microsoft have a patent involving its usage. I know they have something similar for NTFS, which is the one windows uses.
Another gotcha from MS is if you reformat large flash drives with Win7 you loose the fat32 option and only get NTFS or exFat32.
It is weird because the flash drive comes formatted as fat32.
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I see it at the Play store again. If you have any Google movies moved to the thumb drive (like the free Transformers), will it recognize that file type and play from the drive?
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I purchased 2 of these cables for $1.26 each and they work great on the N7 with the app. Got them delivered in 2 days.
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Google needs to come of their "cloud" and allow full OTG read/write with a stock update.
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Google needs to come of their "cloud" and allow full OTG read/write with a stock update.
Yeah. I like the cloud stuff but with data plan caps and the rising cost of data plans, it's not very realistic if you're on the go and tethered to a mobile. Heck, streaming one CD worth of music can be 200 MB. And when I'm at home, I'm not going to WiFI music or movies to the N7 when I have a 50" plasma with a nice audio system and GoogleTV.
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Saw one is out there from the Play Store for this app. Any idea what it may be for? I don't want to dumb down this app before I even get a chance to use it!
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Google Nexus 7 now supports USB drives and SD cards without rooting! | Mobile Fun Blog

Use USB drives etc via the OTG cable without rooting using this app!

(havent tried it yet but sounds good.) its read only, no writing to the storage, but fine for accessing media for playback on the nexus.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.importer

Its not free... :-[
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i used some of my free $25 to buy it haha
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It's very cheap, support the developers and buy it.
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i bought it and love it. And, the developer is great at responsing to questions.
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100% agreed, though again- Google should allow full support out of box, IF they were not cloud huggers.

BTW, anybody try 64gb usb thumbdrives yet? Curious on the smoothness of video playback and if game roms work. Added: On second thought, since read-only would not be able to save data, so would not be too practical for a lot of games.
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