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Old November 16th, 2012, 12:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Seems like a lot of people are not liking this update. Should I avoid it for now? What has been everyone's opinion on it so far?

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Old November 16th, 2012, 12:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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its not that bad actually, I waited around impatiently to receive it (ended up using the quicker method mentioned in an earlier post) & I'm pretty happy with everything all in all... its progress.... as mentioned earlier in this forum, you can always root & go back to an earlier state if you just cant live with the changes.. just my thoughts tho..
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Old November 16th, 2012, 02:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Every time a new update comes out people don't like it mostly because its new and takes a bit of time to get used to. So far I see no problems with it, the only thing I don't like is the silly looking clock on the lock screen but that's easily fixed.
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Old November 16th, 2012, 02:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I've had it for a few days. It works fine as far as I can tell. There are a few presentation differences but I'm sure that I'll get used to them.
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Old November 16th, 2012, 03:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I wish I had waited. All the other updates have been fine but Google really messed this one up. Give it a week or two for apps, etc. to catch up to it and it will be much better.
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Old November 16th, 2012, 04:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hmm maybe I will hold off a week or 2. How's the new swype?
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Old November 16th, 2012, 05:44 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Most issues aren't with the update itself, but with incompatible apps. Some devs may take a while to update for compatibility, most have already done so. I don't see any reason to hold off on the upgrade at this point.
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Old November 16th, 2012, 05:49 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I wish I had waited. All the other updates have been fine but Google really messed this one up. Give it a week or two for apps, etc. to catch up to it and it will be much better.
How did Google mess it up if the apps need to catch up?
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Old November 16th, 2012, 06:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
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How did Google mess it up if the apps need to catch up?
I don't think the inconvenience (mess up) is permanent and think it will subside fairly quickly.
The new repartitioning scheme of the internal SD card caught most by surprise I think. Apps often can't find the files they are looking for because of it. I am rooted and now neither recovery system can find backups to restore and backups fail because they can't find the partition they are looking for. Apps like MXPlayer could not find the video files to play. (That one already has been fixed.) Astro file manager has been updated as well. They will catch up quickly. But this update has been the most frustrating I have experienced so far, with so many things not working right after the update. If you don't want to experience this frustration then just wait a few days for it to settle down. I really like some of the features. New keyboard is almost identical to Swype but I still prefer the genuine Swype. I still like Swiftkey 3 for tablets, though. It seems to have better predictions for words to type--almost uncanny at times. The double pull down shade is nice once you get used to pulling down the wrong one occasionally. I am confident that by Thanksgiving we will all be loving 4.2
Some folks will like the multiple user profiles but each person in my family who wants to use a tablet has their own. Just MHO of course
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So far I'm not having any issues with the update. On a rare occasion, a swipe won't activate, not a big deal though. I love this new swipe keyboard. I was using Swype Beta previously and was having major problems.

It might be my imagination or the fact that I was using my slow phone a few minutes ago, but some things, including scrolling, feel slightly faster.

My only disappointment so far is the fact that Nexus 7 doesn't have a rear facing camera, so I can't play with the new camera feature. The settings drop down menu is also an annoyance because I already have toggle widgets on my home screen. But it is nice to be able to toggle a setting without leaving my current app.
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Old November 16th, 2012, 09:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Updated yesterday. My only issue is Amazon appstore. All my apps work fine, several nice new features, lots of available lock screen widgets, new keyboard let's you get rid of Swype. I'm not rooted, happy with N7 and 4.2
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Old November 17th, 2012, 01:56 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Whilst I was watching TV last night mine updated, no problems so far, apps updated at the same time, I like it
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Ya, the new notification bar is going to take some time to get use to. I'm not sure I like it.
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No real issues for me.

The N7 is running smoothly
Chrome is much improved - scrolling is smooth now
I don't mind the clock on the lock screen but have replaced it with one I like from HD Widgets
Are the dock icons smaller? I quite like the look if they have changed...
I accept that some apps need to catch up but a lot have already (huge sales of the N7 and N4 should see apps move quicker this time around).

Still loving my N7 (and N4)!
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I kept checking my Nexus for the update every 5 minutes, as did my partner - mostly because of me lol(for some reason mine showed up 12 hours before and I wasn't allowed to update until my partner had it lol).

However, my partner was very disappointed with it. The app she uses most doesn't work and nor do a few others after testing. Also, the Amazon Appstore keeps signing out which is irritating, then we found that if we went to play/use one of the games/apps downloaded from Amazon, it then asked us to sign in before we could play it :|. That made my mind up that I was going to downgrade them.

I liked the notification bar system on 4.2, and now I'm on 4.1.2 again, the nag screen is irritating but, not as irritating as having to keep signing in to Amazon. For me and the apps I use, that was the only issue I found, that and I really don't like the new lock screen clock.

I would suggest holding off updating until more apps are updated to work with it. Or at the very least, check around to see if the apps you do use, have been updated/work with it. I know for example the Dice video player has already been updated but, like I say, the Amazon Appstore needs an update and other apps just don't open.
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I don't understand the paranoia and the need to root and update early at all costs just to see a series of small modifications to an OS that already worked pretty well.

There was nothing at all wrong with 4.1.2 in my book and 4.2 has a few minor changes but nothing dramatic. If the clock looks different ! Change it

Just enjoy using your device and quit worrying whether it's 'the latest'. Third party Apps will catch up pretty fast. My second Android device (Samsung Ace Phone) is still on Gingerbread 2.3.5 will probably not be upgraded ever and it still works perfectly !

I am guessing now but I don't think many of the update features were actually targeted for N7 (8,16,32) devices but more likely for N7/10 GSM + N4 and other release planned devices.
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Yeah, the only thing bothering me at the moment is the Amazon App Store. Other than that, no skin off my back.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 09:27 AM   #18 (permalink)
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How did Google mess it up if the apps need to catch up?
Because this should have been available to the devs a month before general release so the updates were ready, not making them wait until "official" release to start working on their apps.

And the multi-user and file system changes due to that are not minor things.
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I just got it last night, looks pretty cool so far. One of the reasons I got a Nexus device instead of another tablet was the speedy updates.
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My main concern is with MX player and Media Share Lite to transmit to my TV, both of which I use heavily. Based on this alone, should I wait to upgrade?
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Had lag issues on mine after the update. A factory reset has it working as it should, and then lag issues seem to be gone. The new changes in 4.2 will take some time to get used to, but overall I like them. I like how I'm now able to create my own clock widget on the lock screen thanks to the HD Widgets app.
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Stay away! Ruined so many apps, its a pos! My nexus was stock and it had way too many problems.
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There are apps that might not work well with 4.2, but the more responsive devs will update them. I've already seen updates for Nova launcher and HD widgets.

I have noticed my N7 rebooting 2-3 times a day since updating though, so if you're happy with 4.1.2, you might want to stay with it a bit longer.
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The only problem that I noticed was Firefox restarting but I only installed the release Firefox a day ago so I attributed the problem to Firefox. I reinstalled the Beta Firefox and it works fine. I haven't had any shutdown or other issues on 4.2.

The look and feel differences that I've noticed are transitions - they are softer now. When you shut it down, it gets dimmer down to off instead of just turning off. It's fairly minor stuff.
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I updated mine a fews days ago. I'm loving the dropdown quick settings, and the update itself. No problems during or after the update at all. Can't see why so many hates the lock screen clock though, because I love it!
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I updated mine a fews days ago. I'm loving the dropdown quick settings, and the update itself. No problems during or after the update at all. Can't see why so many hates the lock screen clock though, because I love it!
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Mine was (is) stock, no root, and all my apps work fine (except Amazon Appstore)... but then why should Google care if they are compatible with Amazon, Amazon should care!

50% of the apps (that I had on my phone) when I bought the N7 2 months ago were not compatible, a couple weeks later they were! Whether it be a new device or a new software upgrade... Google makes their stuff work (at least most of it), developers are the ones that need to make their apps work with it. Give them some time... and you'll wonder how you couldn't live without 4.2... then you can can complain about how 4.21 doesn't work.

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I haven't seen any issues on mine. I did a manual install then restored apps using Titanium Backup with zero issues. It sounds like I just had great luck.
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just did the OTA download with no issues, rooted the device and was working in about 15 mins.
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Is anyone else seeing a dramatic loss in battery life? I got my N7 about a week ago and on 4.1.2 I was at 99% after my regular morning email/forum/RSS check. After 4.2 I am at 82% for the very same thing. Can anyone point me to a way to go back to 4.1.2?
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I wish I had waited. All the other updates have been fine but Google really messed this one up. Give it a week or two for apps, etc. to catch up to it and it will be much better.
What exactly did they mess up?

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Got my Shiny new Nexus 7 on Saturday and within 10 mins out of the box 4.2 update came through. Did it straight away and I think it's great. Watched all the youtube vids before I brought it and all were going on about home screen doesn't auto rotate and so, all fixed with 4.2. have noticed a few apps not compatible but that won't take long. Loving it.
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Hate the new 4.2 update. seems like it takes longer to charge and battery life seems to have gone down. another weird thing is my calender no longer has the month of December. It charges ok if the system is powered down but it takes forever if it is left on.
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The December thing is a known bug and Google is working on it.
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Still haven't updated yet. To many horror stories :-)
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Has anyone seen an improvement on laggyness after a factory reset after the 4.2 update. Mines ok apart from the internet and YouTube?
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LOL what?? I didn't know about this! They must have fixed it by now, I don't see the error.
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Google error cancels Christmas (and all of December) - CNN.com

The People app lets users bookmark friends' birthdays and other important dates on a calendar. But some users of Android 4.2, the system's newest update, are complaining they can't note December dates in the app because its calendar skips from November to January. December simply does not exist.


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I do calendar entries on a desktop or laptop. I just read calendar entries on the Nexus 7 so it isn't a problem for me.
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Is anyone else seeing a dramatic loss in battery life? I got my N7 about a week ago and on 4.1.2 I was at 99% after my regular morning email/forum/RSS check. After 4.2 I am at 82% for the very same thing. Can anyone point me to a way to go back to 4.1.2?
Yeh I'm similar, a good 10% more drop after my morning checks and usage.
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No battery issues here. Mine has been running for just under 170 hours with about 40% left. I think my battery life is better on 4.2.
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I can't stand the new lock screen, but I found an app that can kill it with fire.

Lockscreen Policy: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wordpress.chislonchow.deviceadminke yguard
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I haven't noticed any power issues but the N7 did hang last night. I don't think that it has ever done that before. It got progressively slower (I was watching a movie) and then the screen became unresponsive. I had to do a hard reboot. It seems fine this morning.
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I had it set to not have a lock screen on 4.1.2 and updated (again) to 4.2 and I don't have the lockscreen still on 4.2. I did read that it wasnt possible to do it on 4.2 so I don't know if my current setting overrode it?
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 12:06 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Just go to Settings > Security > Screen lock. You can choose none or several other options. Available in 4.12 and 4.2.
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Old November 23rd, 2012, 06:04 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Just go to Settings > Security > Screen lock. You can choose none or several other options. Available in 4.12 and 4.2.
Yup, that's exactly what I did lol. I did remember someone saying it didn't work on 4.2 though but, I didn't have my Nexus next to me last night (:O) to check if what I'd read was correct or not.

Solves a lot of problems lol. I really didn't like the lock screen but, I have a case that has the magnets in, so turns the screen on and unlocking it just seemed irritating.
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Old November 28th, 2012, 02:22 PM   #46 (permalink)
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If I had a chance to turn back time I wouldn't update to 4.2 until it is fixed, not everyone has problems but it is pure luck.
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