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Old November 3rd, 2012, 09:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default OK I rooted...Now What?

I'm kidding about the 'Now What'. I rooted my N7 today specifically to try out Titanium Backup hoping to get it to provide an iOS-like restore capability. I am a bit overwhelmed though by all the options and settings.

The real mission was to figure out the rooting thing in preparation for my N4. With it's limited memory, I'll need to be able to use an OTG dongle and I'd like to be able to preserve MMS/SMS messages and audio files that will reside on it.

Anyone got a TBU for Dummies guide?

Big nod to DroidModd3rX and his video guide at Nexus 7 One Click Root Nexus Toolkit Wugfresh Super Easy Guide - YouTube

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Old November 3rd, 2012, 11:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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[Guide] TitaniumBackup Tutorial

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Now you are a Nexus God, ruling your N7 domain with an iron fist!

Build you tiny universe, ROM it, kernel it, app it! HAHAHAHAHA
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All kidding aside, I have always rooted my Android phones. But in hindsight, that was typically done to remove Verizon restrictions and bloat. With the Nexus 7, I don't see as much gained functionality to rooting. If I'm not interested in custom themes and the processor speed is already sufficient for my uses, are there other benefits to rooting this tablet that I am forgetting?

Never mind. Just found a similar post with answers to my questions!
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Old November 6th, 2012, 09:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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All kidding aside, I have always rooted my Android phones. But in hindsight, that was typically done to remove Verizon restrictions and bloat. With the Nexus 7, I don't see as much gained functionality to rooting. If I'm not interested in custom themes and the processor speed is already sufficient for my uses, are there other benefits to rooting this tablet that I am forgetting?

Never mind. Just found a similar post with answers to my questions!
I agree with you there, I've unlocked and rooted my nexus 7 recently just so I can use flash. I was getting excited because I was imagining the things I could start doing with it, but like you said there really isn't that much more functionality. (I found anyways) Aside from the couple apps that require a root.

Anybody else have a different opinion? I would love to know what people have done with their rooted nexus 7's
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I did it to:
  1. Learn the ins and outs of the stock Android OS so in preparation for buy the N4. It's limited memory will require being able to move stuff on and off as needed.
  2. Be able to run Titanium Backup.
  3. Use a flash drive to move media around.

All I really needed the tablet for is use as a book reader with more capability than the Nook, Kindle, etc. The phone I will use as my day-to-day device and with only 16G I know I will need to be on top of managing it.
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Custom recovery,control of your file system, Stick Mount, Titanium, Roms etc
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I've rooted every Android device I've ever owned and don't regret it. I've also installed CyanogenMod on every Android device I've ever owned except my GoogleTVs (still waiting for a CM GTV release, get on it Steve!) And don't regret it. And the device list is in the double digits a few times over easily. My setup is actually impossible with out root and CM these days. Here's why:

1) Franco's kernel for undervolting/power saving
2) Titanium Backup so I can restore data if my devices break. I sync 3 copies historically to Dropbox across all my devices.
3) Mixer PCB theme using the theme engine in CM.
4) App data sync between devices using DataSync Beta and DataSync+. This means when I use an app on my Nexus 7 and close it, it uploads the app's data to Dropbox after I close it. Then when I open it on my Galaxy Nexus or Nexus 4 in a week, it'll have synchronized the app's data back from Dropbox to the phones and I continue where I left off. Mostly designed for games as some app's have per-device settings so its a list I set up for what apps to include.
5) AdFree Android app from marketplace. Cuz I don't like ads everywhere on web pages.
6) Custom ROM - as mentioned I run CM10. There are added features that I can't live with out any more. It makes a wonderful Android experience even better.
7) Ego. Cuz I hate having a Linux powered device I own that I don't have root access to. Must be my inner BOFH showing...

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I've rooted every Android device I've ever owned and don't regret it. I've also installed CyanogenMod on every Android device I've ever owned except my GoogleTVs (still waiting for a CM GTV release, get on it Steve!) And don't regret it. And the device list is in the double digits a few times over easily. My setup is actually impossible with out root and CM these days. Here's why:

1) Franco's kernel for undervolting/power saving
2) Titanium Backup so I can restore data if my devices break. I sync 3 copies historically to Dropbox across all my devices.
3) Mixer PCB theme using the theme engine in CM.
4) App data sync between devices using DataSync Beta and DataSync+. This means when I use an app on my Nexus 7 and close it, it uploads the app's data to Dropbox after I close it. Then when I open it on my Galaxy Nexus or Nexus 4 in a week, it'll have synchronized the app's data back from Dropbox to the phones and I continue where I left off. Mostly designed for games as some app's have per-device settings so its a list I set up for what apps to include.
5) AdFree Android app from marketplace. Cuz I don't like ads everywhere on web pages.
6) Custom ROM - as mentioned I run CM10. There are added features that I can't live with out any more. It makes a wonderful Android experience even better.
7) Ego. Cuz I hate having a Linux powered device I own that I don't have root access to. Must be my inner BOFH showing...

-PhaseBurn
+1 This. All kidding aside, if you are just a "user" then maybe you don't need to. But if that's the case, Samsung, Kindle Fire, Nook, many others are Android tablets that can perform perfectly for a "user". The Nexus line of products from Google will always be the latest Android, and receive updates directly from Google. Google does not answer to carriers on these devices, so in effect when you purchase Nexus, IT's YOUR DEVICE, NOT the phone Carriers or manufacturers. Google makes sure of that. The device will never be locked down to prevent you from doing what you want.
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I've rooted every Android device I've ever owned and don't regret it. I've also installed CyanogenMod on every Android device I've ever owned except my GoogleTVs (still waiting for a CM GTV release, get on it Steve!) And don't regret it. And the device list is in the double digits a few times over easily. My setup is actually impossible with out root and CM these days. Here's why:

1) Franco's kernel for undervolting/power saving
2) Titanium Backup so I can restore data if my devices break. I sync 3 copies historically to Dropbox across all my devices.
3) Mixer PCB theme using the theme engine in CM.
4) App data sync between devices using DataSync Beta and DataSync+. This means when I use an app on my Nexus 7 and close it, it uploads the app's data to Dropbox after I close it. Then when I open it on my Galaxy Nexus or Nexus 4 in a week, it'll have synchronized the app's data back from Dropbox to the phones and I continue where I left off. Mostly designed for games as some app's have per-device settings so its a list I set up for what apps to include.
5) AdFree Android app from marketplace. Cuz I don't like ads everywhere on web pages.
6) Custom ROM - as mentioned I run CM10. There are added features that I can't live with out any more. It makes a wonderful Android experience even better.
7) Ego. Cuz I hate having a Linux powered device I own that I don't have root access to. Must be my inner BOFH showing...

-PhaseBurn
Can you explain undervolting? I'm using Franco's Kernel, but am not sure what everything does.
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Can you explain undervolting? I'm using Franco's Kernel, but am not sure what everything does.
Generically (since I have no personal experience using Franco's very fine kernel), undervolting would be running the processor at less power than it normally would--resulting in increased battery life (and less heat given off by the CPU).

The reason you can undervolt is that not all CPU chips have the same power requirements (each varies slightly)--but the Android OS (kernel) uses the same voltage level for all processors (the one that the manufacturer identified as usable for all processors manufactured for that device).

So, as long as you carefully test and determine what a stable undervolting value is, you should be fine.

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I'm beginning to under volt this myself. Just gonna take it slow and lower it by 25 a day till I hit my devices stable limit
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How low have you gotten so far without issue?
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How low have you gotten so far without issue?
I just started today, but I started at -75. I haven't seen anyone elses undervolt to use as a reference, so I'm just going to take it slow and go -25 each day
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I just started today, but I started at -75. I haven't seen anyone elses undervolt to use as a reference, so I'm just going to take it slow and go -25 each day
I'm interested to hear what you discover.
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Went down 50 today . All seems fine.

Total drop -125
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Went down 50 today . All seems fine.

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After your last post I got brave and dropped 100.
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