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Old February 3rd, 2011, 10:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Internal Storage Space: A Rant

The internal storage space on my N1 is starting to become a real big issue. I am now down to 18 MB worth of space and keep gettin the "Low on Space" notification. Besides not being about to download a lot of apps that don't have app2sd enable it is effect the phone's ability to receive text messages which is the big problem. I get the "text message memory full" notification way too often. I have already deleted apps that I used a lot and most of the internal storage is given to the google apps that I don't use. Why is my text message memory full when I have 18mb left??

I know everyone is going to tell me that rooting is the answer and I was alright with doing it when the one-click method was avaliable but since I can't do that I am not brave enough to try the other methods.


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The one click method is still available:

[APP]SuperOneClick v1.6.5 (Root, Unroot, Enable Non-Market App, Get UNLOCK code) - xda-developers

Then use a terminal to enter pm setInstallLocation 2 to move apps that wouldn't normally allow it.
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Ive been experiencing this too myself lately. Im regularly at 20mb consistently. Things are looking more positive for the Atrix at the moment.
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Ive been experiencing this too myself lately. Im regularly at 20mb consistently. Things are looking more positive for the Atrix at the moment.
Yep - app storage is a big driver for me to upgrade as well.
I'm sick of being a cache fascist
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broswer cache is pretty much killing my space. it is getting really old though. Im waiting for the next HTC with vanilla and it's bye bye N1.
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Why not use Apps2Ext if it's annoying you?
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How dare you suggest that Rusty!

Far too simple a solution!
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I keep myself hovering between 20 and 30 mb all the time. Currently at 30 with 163 apps installed (mind you I also force apps to sd) but whenever I get short on space I look through my apps and find some I haven't used in weeks. Do I back those up and uninstall.
This method works fine for me at the moment but it could be a lot easier so I'm planning on an ext partition as soon as amazon will let me buy my new sd card
But of course all this hassle wouldn't be needed if we had more internal storage.
But it's still no reason for me to buy a new phone. But I will need a damn good reason to get rid of mine
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If you are rooted, and have Titanium Back-up installed, just click on Titanium Back-up > Backup/Restore > select an app and long press and hold (2 sec's) and a menu entitled Android Optimizer pops up that offers you the choice of "Move to SD card" and, if it's possible, "Integrate update into ROM".

I currently have 86 app's installed from the Market with 108MB free on internal memory using this system.

One word of caution is that it's a good idea to keep app's with widgets on your home screen and your current live wallpaper as well as any monitoring app's on your internal memory as connecting your phone via USB will stop them working when the card is unmounted.

Another thing that frees up internal memory for me is K-9 email which has the option to save to SD card.

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If you are rooted, and have Titanium Back-up installed, just click on Titanium Back-up > Backup/Restore > select an app and long press and hold (2 sec's) and a menu entitled Android Optimizer pops up that offers you the choice of "Move to SD card" and, if it's possible, "Integrate update into ROM".
Screw that, it'll take forever... the same options exist in the batch menu. Then move widgets etc back to internal storage.
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Screw that, it'll take forever... the same options exist in the batch menu. Then move widgets etc back to internal storage.


you could do it Rusty's way which wouldn't allow you to see if an individual app could be integrated into ROM.
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You don't need to check for that, there is an integrate into ROM batch
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You don't need to check for that, there is an integrate into ROM batch
Touche Rusty!
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have you tried deleting your text messages?
if its saying that is full and you have 18 mbs left, maybe only so much space is alotted for text messages and you have like 4,000 stored on your phone.
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have you tried deleting your text messages?
if its saying that is full and you have 18 mbs left, maybe only so much space is alotted for text messages and you have like 4,000 stored on your phone.
I just checked, I have over 4000 texts and still no issues here
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have you tried deleting your text messages?
if its saying that is full and you have 18 mbs left, maybe only so much space is alotted for text messages and you have like 4,000 stored on your phone.
I don't keep nearly that many messages, I usually clear them out daily.
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Basically just Rusty's method threw ADB (no rooting or formatting of the SD card).....
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So this method will allow apps to be transfered SD card that usually aren't allowed? It seems like it just sets the preference of the apps being installed to go to the SD card.
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It will allow 98% of apps to be moved to the SD card, regardless of dev flag. There are still the odd few that can't be moved though.

It also changes the default install location (0 = auto, 1 = internal (use this for Apps2Ext), 2 = SD card).
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Alright so I tried following the directions in the link and got up to step 5. I am in the Command Prompt Window and I am under the following

C:\Program Files\Android\android-sdk-windows\tools>

The next command I type as per the instructions is the following:

C:\Program Files\Android\android-sdk-windows\tools>adb devices

Instead of getting a serial number I get "adb" is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

Any ideas of what I am doing wrong?
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Do you have adb.exe in that folder?
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No it's in the folder labeled platform-tools
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Ok got it to work, thanks guys, quick question, should I send adobe flash to SD or leave it on the phone?
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I have it on the SD
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Basic rule of thumb is to only keep apps that have widgets (that you use) and apps that you may need immediately at boot (e.g. Sipdroid) on the phone, everything else can go on SD card .

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Ugh, this morning my phone just about crashed on me. Internal space was at 16 and there was no room to update apps that needed to be updated. Also, for the first time I saw a notification for too many texts so an incoming text was rejected. Funny thing is from seeing this thread before I had reset my max text message to 25 per conversation and delete any conversations Im not using. I only have 82 texts in the phone and it said there was no more room.

I think my phone has a virus.
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Ugh, this morning my phone just about crashed on me. Internal space was at 16 and there was no room to update apps that needed to be updated. Also, for the first time I saw a notification for too many texts so an incoming text was rejected. Funny thing is from seeing this thread before I had reset my max text message to 25 per conversation and delete any conversations Im not using. I only have 82 texts in the phone and it said there was no more room.

I think my phone has a virus.
My phone did the same with only 18 MB left, for some reason when you get down to that level it no longer accepts text messages. Clean up some space and it will go away.
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Have any of you who has been using the ADB method ever encounter any updating issues? I recall reading about folks experiencing problems updating certain apps after using the ABD method when it first appeared some time ago.

PS, will does this method still work on 2.2.2?
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Have any of you who has been using the ADB method ever encounter any updating issues? I recall reading about folks experiencing problems updating certain apps after using the ABD method when it first appeared some time ago.

PS, will does this method work on 2.2.2?
I use it on 2.2.2 and have no troubles with updating. It will allow some apps with widgets that don't have good checking routines to install on the SD card, which means you'll lose the widgets when you restart the phone if you don't move that app back to the phone (I think that happened with Calengoo when it was in beta). However, no other kinds of problems.
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Thanks for reply Hook, I finally went about going through what turned out to be a pretty simple procedure. It took me forever to figure out some of the mistakes I was making as well as the relocation of the folder that Mostly also went through. It seems Google updated and relocated the adb.exe to the platform-tools folder instead of the tools folder as listed in various how to sites.

Nevertheless, I almost doubled my internal memory up to 40mb after moving 25 apps or so to the SD card. Had a scare when I couldn't find any of the moved apps after I rebooted the phone. Went in the settings>manage apps> list and it simply wasn't even listed but it turned up eventually. I guess the system needs more time to process all the apps in the sd card

Many of Googles' apps could not be moved as you'll notice that the "move to SD card" button isn't available. On the other hand, something like Flash Player reduced itself from 12+mb to 8.27mb. It still seems to function fine too after a quick test

Well, at least I finally did it. I procrastinated this method since it came out many months ago, thanks for bringing it up and giving me a push guys
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So funny thing, I tried a different Apps2Sd application and removed my old one. Immediately my storage went from 20 to 26. I cant imagine that old app was using so much memory at only 163kb.
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Well my internal memory always seems to fluctuate randomly between 20 and 26 so I wouldn't read into that too much.
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Cache.

If you have root, grab a cache cleaner from the Market and it'll free up a few MB every so often.
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Yeah, browser, market and mail seem to guzzle the most. But they get cleared automatically in due tine so I can't be bothered to clear them every so often
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I've been enjoying my phone all over again after this minor ADB trick I've since installed numerous apps to increase the phones productivity and I'm right back at 25MB of internal again


A bit off topic but out of curiosity, and concern really, do you guys foresee any issues when the GB update is installed? I'd hate to see it cause an OS update failure or something

I suppose I should uninstall enough apps to be safe and actually reverse the storage back to 0.
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It wont cause any problem, but you might have to issue the command again after updating.
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Thanks Rusty, it went without a hitch.

FYI: Before the manual update, I deleted several apps to get the internal to around 40MB free and updated. The GB update went though with no problems and after all was said and done, the ADB trick is still set to store all apps2sd in GB

Reinstalled several deleted apps and some new ones, moved some apps back to the sd card and I for some reason, I seem to have more internal space then I ever did. Did GB free up some space or something?
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Kinda, yes.

It comes with some updated Google apps, so some that had been updated on Froyo were stored in /data and now they're in /system. If they're updated again via the Market they'll be back on /data stealing your MB's.
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Rust i need some help, i follwed all the steps in the mentioned procedure but i am not able to get my device recognized by my comp (USB drivers have already been installed, Phone is in USB debug mode),

Please help

I am getting this error at the command prompt

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P.S I am running Ginger bread 2.3.3
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Redrage, have you checked your space since installing GB? I notice a large increase in the internal storage, might be enough that you don't need to do anything else.
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I'm stuck on 3. Connect your phone to your computer with a USB-cable. Your OS will prompt you to install new drivers. Choose to install them from the android-sdk/usb_driver folder. Do not mount your device; you only need to plug-in the cable

I connect my phone (yes debugging is enabled), but it just sits there. I get no prompt to install the new drivers. Can anyone help?
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^ I have the same problem. My device is not detected when i type ADB shell.
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If you get no install driver prompt, check device manager, there might be a non-compatible driver installed by default.
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If you get no install driver prompt, check device manager, there might be a non-compatible driver installed by default.
That was it. I was able to get through to step 5.

I got the serial number, and then typed in the last part of step 5: All you have to do next is entering adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2. Voil�, you�re done! Android will now install apps to the SD card by default.

But I can't move anything to the SD. You say you moved Flash, but when I click on it from my "manage apps" the "move to sd" is still unavailable. I even uninstalled it, and redownloaded it, but it still went to internal storage. How do you move apps?

Do I have to do anything else? After I entered adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2 I typed "exit" and unplugged my phone. Did I miss a step?
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That was it. I was able to get through to step 5.

I got the serial number, and then typed in the last part of step 5: All you have to do next is entering adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2. Voil�, you�re done! Android will now install apps to the SD card by default.

But I can't move anything to the SD. You say you moved Flash, but when I click on it from my "manage apps" the "move to sd" is still unavailable. I even uninstalled it, and redownloaded it, but it still went to internal storage. How do you move apps?

Do I have to do anything else? After I entered adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2 I typed "exit" and unplugged my phone. Did I miss a step?
Never mind. I figured it out. I didn't capitalize the "I" in setInstallLocation.

It works now!!!! Thanks for all the tips and help.
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