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Old February 25th, 2011, 07:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So... what does everyone think of Gingerbread so far?

I manually updated my N1 last night, and overall I'm really pleased with the new keyboard, the display interface (am I right in saying that if only Google had installed the black notification bar from the start, we wouldn't have the "burn through" lines on our displays?) and the various odds-and-ends.

A pleasant surprise for me just this morning was when I tried to correct an email address I'd entered, and discovered the new cursor position arrow, allowing me to "slide" to the correction instead of using the trackball.

Speaking of the trackball, that's my only gripe so far - No Lock no longer wakes the screen by pressing the trackball. A very, very minor gripe!!! (That I still would expect to be fixed soon, LOL.)

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So far I have been really impressed. I really enjoy all the tweaks they have done. The interface looks really awesome (black notification bar, phone menu, battery usage menu etc...) The keyboard with the arrows is also really nice. My N1 seems to be running really smooth (don't know if that's GB or if it's because I just installed a new update). Also like the tweaks they did to the manage application area.

Also the old school TV off effect when you shut off the phone.
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I like the improvements so far too. I use Launcher Pro and Swype though, so I don't really notice some of the graphical improvements and the new keyboard.
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Loving Gingerbread! The whole interface is so much sleeker now. But it sucks that the keyboard isn't multitouch. Smart Keyboard Pro remains the only keyboard I can find for the N1 that actually has multitouch.
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My complaint is this:



It's caused by having the language set to UK English, if I pretend to be a yank it shows the correct text.

I'm also getting grief from the USB debugging notification... I had it enabled in that screen-shot, yet where is it? If I enable it with the USB cable plugged in, I don't get a notification. If I enable it then plug the USB cable in, I get the notification, but it wont go away when I turn debugging off, only when I pull the cable.

CM7 had none of these issues.
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actually CM7 has the same issue ...i have build 6 full and it's the same as you say up there... but i know that the guys over at CM will get rid of that

p.s. : in cm7 build6 you can press the back arrow and it will go away
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Yes I can get rid of it just fine, but I would like it to show the correct words when I want to use it
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i'm glad to hear that gb is an improvement. i remember the more technical folks with n1's saying, "gb is only aesthetic, froyo was much better in terms of the changes it brought" and this was months before it was released.

i was in the other group, i'm not super technical, and i thought that froyo was kind of a disappointment. aesthetic changes, even though they are minor gives it a new feel in my opinion and i'm actually more excited for gb than froyo
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They're right though, the advances Froyo brought to the phone were much greater than Gingerbreads (ie. A2SD, JIT & the v8 javascript engine).

That's not to say GB is turd though.
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i understand that, but me not being very technical, all that stuff was behind the scenes stuff.

only things i can think of that froyo brought were flash and faster loading time on stock browser and app2sd. while those things are great, everything else was pretty much the same or behind the scenes, so i didnt really notice much. not saying i'm ungrateful, and i know it's made android better, but out of sight, out of mind
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So far found that SwitchPro widgets no longer work for GPS and Bluetooth toggles, but WiFi does.
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I like it so far! the UI looks much cleaner. My only gripe is that I'll have to reinstall Swype again (doesn't work after the update). Also, I noticed that my OS took up 65% of battery life, but I don't know if that was due to the manual install.
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I like it so far! the UI looks much cleaner. My only gripe is that I'll have to reinstall Swype again (doesn't work after the update). Also, I noticed that my OS took up 65% of battery life, but I don't know if that was due to the manual install.
That's just the Swype registration. You have to reinstall it even after minor system updates ... anything that changes the OS version number. Agreed it's a pain, but I'm too used to Swype now to ever go back to a stock keyboard.

I did the manual install off battery power and it barely used 10%. You might want to reset your battery stats.
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That's just the Swype registration. You have to reinstall it even after minor system updates ... anything that changes the OS version number. Agreed it's a pain, but I'm too used to Swype now to ever go back to a stock keyboard.

I did the manual install off battery power and it barely used 10%. You might want to reset your battery stats.
I did reinstall it when I upgraded to 2.2.2 previously...just griping just because I gotta do it again. You're right, even with the keyboard enhancements, I still like Swype too much to NOT have it. Will reset the battery stats.
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Try moving apps back to the phone then to the SD card again. Flash now takes up 60kb for me!
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I was prepared to think "no big deal" because I heard it was only a few aesthetic tweaks, but was pleasantly surprised to see how much I liked it. It definitely has a sleeker look now and I have to say I really am liking the changes. I found a new book app under applications that I guess goes with the new Chrome books page.

I did find that if I try to use the 3D animation app drawer in Launcher Pro it doesn't work. I had to uncheck that option in order to use my app drawer. Sad to see that go, but I'm sure it will be updated soon. Out of all the other apps I use, and there are many, only my mobile banking app seems to not agree with the update. It won't open. Fortunately, I installed it on my Tab and it works there (it uses Froyo).

Overall, I very much like the update.
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Anyone finding it snappier and smoother? Hard to tell for sure but I think it is.

Good thing I like the color green.. should be a way to customize the color theme at some point.
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I love the black that comes with Gingerbread!!

So awesome, loving the update!!

Thanks so much Google!!!!
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It's been working great for me so far, however, my Dolphin Browser HD has been acting up.

Whenver a site asks for my location, like Google.com, Dolphin will ALWAYS ask to allow access, regardless of preferences.

Besides that things are peachy :P
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I like it quite a bit


- love the darker theme with the black notification bar. Not only is it aesthetically nicer, its easier to read and see.
My initial reaction to some of the squared and simplified look of things like the phones dial pad wasn't all that warm but I'm sure I'll get used it and forget about it fast.

- love the old school tube tv effect when we turn it off(would be nice if the audible click was synchronized with it but its no biggie. Must be an OCD thing)

- It seems to be snappier. Could be my head, could be because of the update but the overall feel of the phone and some of the apps I've used so far feel a little quicker

- I seem to have more space available.....

Hopefully, it stays this way but I seem to have gained some internal memory. Don't know how or why but its gonna spoil me...for a short time at least

- I really like the security patterns green glowing circles when you swipe the pattern.

- The glow that shows you that you have reached the end of the scroll is really nice.

- The Download app seems interesting, haven't really had a chance to look at it much but it seems handy.

- The GB upgrade I was looking forward to the most, improved copy and paste, ie, being able to copy web page texts, is a minor disappointment. Its definitely an improvement for sure as we couldn't do it at all before but I was sad to see that the copy and paste function off of web pages only works in the stock browser. It doesn't seem to work in the Dolphin browser which is what I usually use I guess I'll give the stock browser a chance again Edit: I have no idea if it existed before GB but Dolphin has a copy text feature thats in the Menu. Menu>More>Select Text. Once you select that, go to your desired text on the web page and the GB style pointed orange cursors appears to allow your text selection.

- Like Maris mentioned, Launcher Pro's 3D app drawer doesn't work right and needs to be set back to the normal drawer. I'm sure LP will upgrade in due time. Come to think of it, I guess they'll be a lot of updates on various apps this coming week.

- I noticed it uploaded the newest Google Maps automatically. I haven't updated certain apps in months and maps was one of it. It also loaded Google Books or something automatically. As long as you don't open it or install the updates, it doesn't seem to take up space if any. Install the update and it'll reach 4MB! I can't imagine ever reading say, a Charles Dickens novel on a phone but hey, we can if we want too! Edit:Argh, it won't allow me to deselect "Automatic Updates". Why does Google have to push a book app?

- The new native battery usage chart/graph is cool.

-Love the Google Voice widget, especially the shortcut to compose a new sms msg. I could now simply click once on the widget instead of having to open GV>menu>compose msg. I always thought it was a bit tedious.

- Swype's multi word choice pop up doesn't work as it won't allow you to choose a word. It highlights the keyboard and makes an error sound or something when you try to

Thats about what I could think of so far. Its definitely made me appreciate the N1 a bit more today, thats for sure
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I'm happy with everything I've seen so far. I'm not sure how many people use the car dock, but I noticed that Gingerbread finally supports adding custom shortcuts to the "Car Home" screen. No more exiting car mode to start Pandora!
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Car Home was updated in the Market about a month ago with that feature... you must be behind the times
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Nuisance or problem?

After the update, my battery went from 84% to 16% overnight. The main juice user was the Android OS at a whopping 61% followed by the display at only 7%.
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After the update, my battery went from 84% to 16% overnight. The main juice user was the Android OS at a whopping 61% followed by the display at only 7%.
Not here. OS 6%, Display 61%, battery life fine.
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Not here. OS 6%, Display 61%, battery life fine.
Think this had to do with GPS antenna being on and the phone being inside and constantly seeking a location lock, going back to my original observation of SwitchPro no longer being able to toggle GPS.
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DOH!! Guess I am a bit behind then. Oh well, I still appreciate the update!
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A bit off topic, but I really liked Dolphin HD in the beginning. Lately (in the past few months) it's been s-l-o-o-o-w. I open it, click on the address bar or search bar... I still have to wait some 5 seconds before I can actually type. Very annoying! I find myself using the stock browser more and more. They really need to work on the performance.
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i like the black theme alot but i hate the dialer
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Don't like:

Had to reinstall Swype
Have to reinstall Yahoo! mail
Trackball doesn't wake up phone using NoLock
Juice Defender icons show wireless access always off (even when it isn't)

The trackball turnon is much more convenient than volume control; hope it's fixed soon.

Like:
Actually I don't see any aesthetic or technical improvement over 2.2 at all, especially since I don't use the Android keyboard.

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Have to reinstall Yahoo! mail

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Why did you have to reinstall Yahoo! mail? Mine seems to works fine since I updated. Am I missing something?

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Try moving apps back to the phone then to the SD card again. Flash now takes up 60kb for me!
Is your phone rooted? I don't have the option to move Flash.
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yes ,his phone is rooted )
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Is your phone rooted? I don't have the option to move Flash.
Don't have to be rooted. I know this is somewhere here, but couldn't find it, so from Brighthand:

Cool tip: Move more apps to SD, free up memory without Rooting.
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Definitely worth a look into Tardman, it freed up 30+Mb on my N1 and allowed me to reinstall apps I regretfully deleted due to space issues. You can see my excitement about it in a thread about internal space rants several threads below.

I was very apprehensive about it as I have never had any sort of experience with command line interface stuff but it was very simple to do with the available instructions.

To be honest, for me, the ADB trick was more exciting then GB
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Sweet. I'll have to do that. Should be a piece of cake. Can anyone confirm that it works with gingerbread yet?
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Yup, it works fine with GB. I asked about it at the end of this thread before I updated;

Internal Storage Space: A Rant
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Cool Re-installing Yahoo mail

I had originally installed Yahoo mail when setting up the phone from a wipe. Used the setup routine that asks for mail server and a port number Worked fine in 2.2 but wouldn't connect in 2.3.

Fixed by downloading Yahoo mail app from Market. Works fine and much nicer GUI.
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After the update, my battery went from 84% to 16% overnight. The main juice user was the Android OS at a whopping 61% followed by the display at only 7%.
I had that problem. I rebooted my phone and it seemed to be fine.
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Posted my 2cents here already. I'll add now that this update is strong enough to keep me happy with my N1 (even compared to all the sweet phones coming out) for another year or so. Might be getting myself a companion honeycomb tab in the near future tho.


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so far I think it is a really nice improvement for android.
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Anyone elses battery use screen jacked up? The grey bar at the top that has the time isn't like all the other grey title screens on the phone. It's misplaced, the text doesn't fit in the box and there are green and blue lines that make no sense. Seems like something went wrong.

Other than that, everything else appears normal on that screen.

I re-read my post, it's obviously the battery graph/chart on top of the time on battery text, but it can't be done like that on purpose...could it? Looks bad.

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After more time, it appears it's normal and the grey represents the battery...never had it fully charged so it looked weird. Ok I guess. Guess I didn't know it was a new feature (or is it old?).
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Try tapping that 'grey bar' and it will suddenly become clear...
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I love the new battery use display. The graph at the top is so cool, and when you click on it you see more info on what is/was on for how long. Along with it displaying the total time on battery I found a little Easter Egg (so to say). I like keeping track of how long my battery lasts since last plugged in, but usually (as in my experience) the counter only counts while the battery is in, and the phone is on (makes sense), BUT with GB after you unplug it, and the counter starts, you can actually power off the phone, turn it back on, and it still keeps time from UNPLUGGED. Also it works even if you power off the phone, and REMOVE the battery from the phone. I found this by accident. I just happen to check my counter, and had a freeze playing with some apps. I did a battery pull, restarted, went to check battery use again for fun, and it was at the count from before I removed the battery. Pretty cool. If you all know this, and I just found it, sorry. :-)
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I think I just found another oddity regarding GB and NoLock -- I now need to disable NL completely and cycle through the Sound On/Off swipe bar before audio or video will play through my earphones. If I fail to do this first, audio will still play through the phone speaker, even with earbuds plugged in.
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Try tapping that 'grey bar' and it will suddenly become clear...
Yeah...when I first looked at it my battery was not charged much so it looked like an alignment error or something. I didn't realize they used the graph colors on that as well. Looked funky.

Now I just need to figure out why 'Maps' is using the most battery when I haven't even used it yet.
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Updated "User's Guide" team...

www.google.com/googlephone/AndroidUsersGuide-2.3.pdf

('spose you all knew & you've all read it already...)
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Had I missed these before?? I thought that ..
Quick System Info => Sensor only listed 5 sensors before

.. anyway now there's 3 more I don't remember from earlier...
- Gravity Sensor
- Linear Acceleration Sensor
- Rotation Vector Sensor..


bleedin' amazing!
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The keyboard has force closed on me several times and has malfunctioned many more. I'm tired of re-starting the phone to recover. I hope that they fix this soon.
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Think this had to do with GPS antenna being on and the phone being inside and constantly seeking a location lock, going back to my original observation of SwitchPro no longer being able to toggle GPS.
I have the same issue as you with my OS taking up a lot of battery life (65%). Do you have a suggestion on disabling the GPS antenna, if that is the root of the battery draining? Sorry ahead of time if this is a newb question, but I don't have the SwitchPro widget either. Will it work with Gingerbread?
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Overall I am greatly pleased with GB it is quicker, I have more space, the keyboard rocks(actually made me leave swype) and I now have a solid black notification bar.

The dialer kind of irks me a bit. I wish they would have made the whole thing flat black. It looks as if its half done.

I was reading a comment above mines where someone was complaining about the copy and paste implementation. They seemed to be under the impression that this is the first time android has gotten the ability... Dude We've always had copy and paste functionality since 1.5, here they've just improved upon it; Greatly!.

Another thing that irks me is everyone acting as if the battery status and app manager thing is new...
WE'VE BEEN HAD BOTH OF THOSE for God knows how long. I actually kept short cuts to both of those functions in my dock when I was using froyo.

With that said overall there's not much new here other than some streamlining behind the scenes tweaks and some garnishing.

I know my phone in and out so much of the gingerbread tweaks that I currently enjoy the most such as the keyboard, notification bar and copy and paste I had already found ways around back when on froyo.
1. On Launcher pro I would hide my white status bar for looks to prevent burn in and access it with a flick of the menu button

2. I used swype

3. DOLPHIN MINI IS THE BEST BROWSER OF ALL TIME :-D
Oh sorry for getting off subject, anyway gingerbread kicks ass too almost as much as dolphin mini ;-)
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