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Old March 20th, 2011, 04:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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love my n1, but i know sooner or later, probably sooner, i'm going to have to replace her. i was tempted with the ns, but just couldn't bring myself to buy a samsung product.

what specs would you need to retire your n1?

i would like a 4.0" super amoled equivalent screen, little faster processor and more internal memory. that's really it. the big killer is i love having stock android and first up on updates, but i know that will end pretty soon too. i just don't think i'll be able to wait for a n3.

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I really was looking forward to the upcoming Sidekick, but now seeing it's specs I'm not really impressed. Now I'm HOPING they release another Sidekick next year with these features:

- a swivel screen, that was 1 of the biggest things about a sidekick for me
- 4" screen or bigger (super AMOLED would be nice)
- dual core processor
- the same, good old sidekick keyboard
- hopefully at least a 5 mp camera and flash is a MUST
- 4G of course, but shouldn't even have to worry about that by next year though
- I'd love to have a trackball for those notifications, but I'm not expecting that one
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To be honest, I probably won't replace my N1 for a few more years. It was my first smartphone and I absolutely adore it as much today as I did the day I got it. I have a special bond with it, and to be honest, nothing at all is wrong with it. So why replace it?
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To be honest, I probably won't replace my N1 for a few more years. It was my first smartphone and I absolutely adore it as much today as I did the day I got it. I have a special bond with it, and to be honest, nothing at all is wrong with it. So why replace it?
I tend to keep smart phones two years or so, that seems to be a good cycle for improvements. I used a Treo 650 then a Centro each for several years (after having Palms since 1998), and even though I was looking to go Android the real push for me to get the N1 was that the Centro died. I actually dusted off the 650 and ran that while I waited for the new phone to arrive (SIM cards FTW). I even still use the unlocked Nokia dumb phone I had before that when I don't want to damage the N1.

The smart phone market is moving towards maturity like computers did, but much more quickly. In the 80's and 90's computers were moving so fast that if you didn't have the latest one you couldn't run the most current software. Now they do make improvements, but for 99% of the people who need a computer (at home) the one they have will last them years performance wise.


Phones keep improving, they are adding nicer screens and more memory but the basic functionality is still the same (for now). And a lot of the functionality changes are software related so even "old" phones can be upgraded. We're somewhat limited by the networks now, but with 4g/LTE rolling out the next big functional step is taking place.

So in short, keep the N1 until it either breaks, or there is something new out that is so much better that you need the new functionality.
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I just replaced my (lost) Nexus One with a Moto Atrix

@ Happy, you'll not find a SAMOLED phone that's not Samsung for awhile. Currently, Samsung is not keeping the SAMOLED for itself :@...hopefully they will start selling it to the other OEMs when their SAMOLED plant open up Q3/Q4. lol
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I am trying to hold out for ice cream (honeycomb and gingerbread combine for sweet desert loving). The 2.3 update for the N1 will hold me over for a while, plus right now I am playing around with a Nook Color (new) and Galaxy Tab (used). I wanted a tablet but didn't want to spend $600+ (not yet anyway). Lets see which one I keep.
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@ Happy, you'll not find a SAMOLED phone that's not Samsung for awhile. Currently, Samsung is not keeping the SAMOLED for itself :@...hopefully they will start selling it to the other OEMs when their SAMOLED plant open up Q3/Q4. lol
dang it, i thought sammy was going to start selling them to other manufacturers around now. that was the rumor a few months back.

i love the n1, but the touchscreen issues can be annoying. i had a vibrant for two weeks, and while i hated most of the phone - the screen looked gorgeous and its touchscreen sensitivity were awesome.

i'm surprised that someone else hasn't come up with a better screen yet.

oh well, the n1 isn't bad at all. guess our relationship will last a little longer than i thought.
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dang it, i thought sammy was going to start selling them to other manufacturers around now. that was the rumor a few months back.

i love the n1, but the touchscreen issues can be annoying. i had a vibrant for two weeks, and while i hated most of the phone - the screen looked gorgeous and its touchscreen sensitivity were awesome.

i'm surprised that someone else hasn't come up with a better screen yet.

oh well, the n1 isn't bad at all. guess our relationship will last a little longer than i thought.
Well right now, samsung's plant can not meet the other companies demand and last year, they announced that they were building a new plant that will be done end of Q3.

This is from the Samsung press released with the SAMOLED+ (I believe that's what the new display is called, lol) for 2012.

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Investment in Samsung Mobile Display to Expand AMOLED Leadership
Separately, joint venture Samsung Mobile Display Co., Ltd. announced it will invest an additional 2.5 trillion won to develop the world's largest Active Matrix Organic Light Emitting Diode (AMOLED) display manufacturing facility in the Tangjeong Complex.

Samsung Mobile Display will establish the new 5.5 generation (1300x1500 mm) AMOLED line by 2012 with a capacity of 70,000 panels per month. Once complete, the line will be able to produce panels for applications in AMOLED TVs, allowing for further growth opportunities in the cutting-edge display technology.
SAMSUNG's Digital World

But other sources say it's July 2011: AMOLED shortage leads Samsung to build $2.1 billion factory, HTC to switch to TFT
The Desire and Google Nexus One from HTC must switch from AMOLED to LCD

I am in love with the SAMOLED. Some people complain that the colour is over saturated and 'not natural', lol...but it's still gorgeous XD
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love my n1, but i know sooner or later, probably sooner, i'm going to have to replace her. i was tempted with the ns, but just couldn't bring myself to buy a samsung product.

what specs would you need to retire your n1?
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I had a Nexus S, but took it back cuz the t-mo baseband wouldn't work for 3g on the rogers network. I can't say I liked it that much. I'd prefer a Nexus 1, but with a slightly larger/better display, and the new sensors and nfc stuff. I love the noise cancelling mic on the N1 and the led/trackball button (never use the trackball, but love the multicolored LED/button part of it).

I can't imagine having to get an android phone that's not the pure Google Experience... Might have to wait a year for the nexus3 (hopefully it'll be an atrix-like motorola product)
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I broke my Nexus One ......but I replaced it with an Htc Incredible S...

From a spec standpoint the Incredible S is like an upgraded Nexus One...bigger screen....more responsive screen for multitouch...better camera on the back..FFC on the front...better processor...more ram...better 3G/4G radio..this will do until the Pyramid comes out...
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As long as Cyanogen continue to support it then I'll stick with the N1, until these specs are available anyway:

4" screen
8mp camera
1080p video recording/playback
3d screen
8gb internal memory with option to extend memory up to 32/64gb
(at least) dual core processor.
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As long as Cyanogen continue to support it then I'll stick with the N1, until these specs are available anyway:

4" screen
8mp camera
1080p video recording/playback
3d screen
8gb internal memory with option to extend memory up to 32/64gb
(at least) dual core processor.
Well if you can live with 4.3" screen. The EVO 3D seems to fit your bill!
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Well if you can live with 4.3" screen. The EVO 3D seems to fit your bill!
The evo 3d is dual 5MP cameras, plus its dual core. Will be nice when it hits....i hope. If reviews come back good after its out for a bit I myself will seriously consider it as a N1 replacement.
I really wanna see how it runs after it gets rooted before i make a choice. Do not want sense on there so again I have to wait and see.
Other factor is ATT buying TMO....do not have any intention of being part of ATT ever again....would rather deal with sprint..Its gonna suck gettin rid of my N1 but thats part of life. Gotta let go of somethings to enjoy something new....grrrr.. hurts sayin that. lol
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An android brain implant
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aren't you a little concerned about doing a factory reset with one of those?
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Well if you can live with 4.3" screen. The EVO 3D seems to fit your bill!
Or the G2X...that is if he/she can live without the 3D.
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I'm thinking about the HTC Sensation 4G
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Definitely a bigger screen, and support for 3G on AT&T
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The Nexus one does have support for 3G on At&t.
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The Nexus one does have support for 3G on At&t.
@Jeep, did you by any chance used the 'TMobile' Nexus One on AT&T? Frequency for the TMO N1 for 3G is 1700 instead of 1900 that AT&T uses.
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I'm getting a Desire S for my wife (her first smart phone) and she offered to switch with me. I keep saying that I want to keep my N1, but now I'm not so sure anymore

What would you do? Take the Sense plunge and go with the Desire S or stick with my N1 baby?

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I'm getting a Desire S for my wife (her first smart phone) and she offered to switch with me. I keep saying that I want to keep my N1, but now I'm not so sure anymore

What would you do? Take the Sense plunge and go with the Desire S or stick with my N1 baby?

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You know, both phones are yours. You will download and tweek whatever phone your wife uses, lol. If she's into social networks, the Desire S might be better for her due to her Sense integrate it plus Scenes.
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Leaning towards the HTC sensation. Like sense 3, like the n1 like looks, apparently good battery life for a smartphone, but don't like the 1gb only of storage. Might prove a limitation for app install...
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(Just thought I'd share this...)
I got my wife the HTC Desire S. I decided to let her use it (as opposed to me taking it and give her my N1.) Here are some impressions:

Physical aspect: The Desire S is a LOT like the N1, very similar in size, only slightly lighter and no trackball. I've been using Light Flow and I actually kinda like the trackball, plus I find it useful when typing. (I think I like 3.7" screens; 4.3, for example is just too big for a phone as far as I'm concerned.)

Response: the desire S seems just a tad more responsive than the N1 (I'm talking about screen gestures). It felt faster, but probably because it didn't have anything installed, so no services were running.

Sense:
  • I like some features, like the "flip-to-shut-up" feature, the fact that if it starts ringing it goes more quiet when you pick it up, stuff like that. Nice!
  • I'm not crazy about the Facebook thing. Sense is just a Facebook overdose. Facebook, facebook, facebook. Everything is facebook. (Yes, I know you can disable all the syncs.)
  • I like the lateral screen lock and phone answer over the vertical Sense gestures.
  • The Desire S didn't come with a microSD card, and I threw in my old 4Gb one that came with the N1. In the SD card settings there was no option to format it.
  • Deleting contacts requires extra steps on Sense. (You have to click on the contact, hit Edit, then menu and then delete as opposed to long-pressing a contact and then selecting Delete.)
  • Sense has groups of contacts (e.g. family, friends...). The Moto V8 I had before the N1 had that and I do miss the feature.
  • Sense seems to be obsessed with weather. The irony is, if you're somewhere where you can't look out the window (or go outside) to see what the weather is like, then perhaps the weather is altogether irrelevant. Sure the sun/cloud/rain icons are cute, but seriously...

Toying with Sense made me want to root my phone and try a custom ROM that has the both of both worlds. I'm considering it now more than ever.
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I really want to wait till the nexus 3 but the galaxy S2 looks really tempting
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HTC Holiday looks like a slam dunk for me when it's released. 4.5" screen, dual processor and will be supposedly be ready for ATT's LTE network. Of course will have to root it first thing since I am so used to the freedom of my Nexus One
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I saw some1 say something about a new Nexus phone coming out around christmas time..is this true?? any1 have a link?
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Well Ice Cream Sandwich was said to be released Q4, so most people are putting the release of ICS with the new nexus.
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Both the Nexus One and Nexus S was released around Christmas time. The N1 was released January 6, 2010 and the Nexus S was released December 18, 2010. So based on pass Nexus released by Google, it is just an expectation that the next Nexus will be released around there too.
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To be honest, I probably won't replace my N1 for a few more years. It was my first smartphone and I absolutely adore it as much today as I did the day I got it. I have a special bond with it, and to be honest, nothing at all is wrong with it. So why replace it?
Agree. One issue I have it the limited space internally. Other than that it does everything I want a phone to do. I've even used the trick (in another thread here somewhere) to move almost all apps to SD, but still only have about 25MB free. How do you all cope with the limited storage? FYI - I'm not rooted, and don't want to root.
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N3 all the way Well most likely -- need to see the dern thing and it's specs 1st. I have been really pleased with the Nexus updates though so huge points for Google there.
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EVO3D...... gonna hurt to let the N1 go but after a year and a half its just time.
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since i originally started this thread, i've had about 7-8 friends get their first android or upgrade to one of the newer androids. i've played with the mytouch 4g, ns, facinate & vibrant, incredible x2, and the droid 2. they are all happy with their phones, except the one guy with the samsung. after playing with all the phones, i just wish the n1 had a 4" super amoled screen. really didn't see anything else that i would appreciate. kind of ironic that the super amoled screen i love the most is only available on the phones made by the manufacturer i like the least.

crossing my fingers for a n3 by htc or motorola. also hoping that they speed up the release cycle. end of summer / fall would be really nice. and last on my wishlist, someone makes a screen like the samoled other than samsung.
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N3 all the way Well most likely -- need to see the dern thing and it's specs 1st. I have been really pleased with the Nexus updates though so huge points for Google there.
Same here. I was going to go with the Nexus S but figured i would wait to see if a newer phone was coming and sure enough...
I'm in the market for something to replace my N1 with but can hold out until December or so to see the N3.
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Well, I finally jumped ship, reluctantly.

I was offered too good a deal by Vodafone to not say no.

I deliberated long and hard over the Samsung Galaxy SII and the HTC Sensation.

I spent over an hour in the Vodafone shop testing both phones before deciding and then finally plumped for the Galaxy SII in spite of being a life long Samsung hater.

My reasons were:-

The Super Amoled screen of the SII is amazing in all lights. Very clear in daylight, the best I've seen.

The extra RAM on the SII gave me almost 3 times the free RAM than that of the Sensation after boot up.

The 2GB of internal memory on the SGII allows me to keep all my app's there with 1.5GB to spare not to mention the 16GB of phone memory (on my model) and the, up to, 32GB SDCard.

Excellent camera and speakers on the SII, better than the Sensation IMHO.

Since I'm a big Cyanogen Mod fan I knew that I would be rooting my phone immediately and so TouchWiz and Sense 3 did not come into it.

Bigger battery on the SII.

Having said all that, I've still got my trusty Nexus One and continue to crack flash it nightly.
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My scratched up N1 is still cooking along. I see no compelling reason not to wait for the N3. There are some nice phones out there tho!
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Well, I finally jumped ship, reluctantly...

The Super Amoled screen of the SII is amazing in all lights. Very clear in daylight, the best I've seen.
you just couldn't resist that sexy little screen?
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Looks like I will be jumping ship shortly too, to a sammy s2.

The n1 is still fast enough for me but I have hardly any apps on it anymore. Installing google+ the other week meant I had to delete a boatload more to squeeze it on.

If it wasn't for the almost weekly app purge I am now doing, I would also wait until the rumoured n3..

Ironass- same here i'm not the only samsung snob then!
Just got to start the long conversation with retentions to get it for free now!
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you just couldn't resist that sexy little screen?
Not so little...

It really is very clear in all lights. No more shielding it in bright sunlight to view things.

Extremely good on battery as well. Have it set to auto brightness and it adjusts very quickly.

The latest 2.3.4 firmware is also a battery saver for me.

Just wish that CM would release a Nightly or two.... getting crack flash withdrawal symptoms.

Thank goodness for the Sexy Nexy. Still flashing!
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Funny you guys are talking about replacing your Nexus Ones. I just bought a Nexus One to replace my G1. I guess I'm a bit behind technologically. :P
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Funny you guys are talking about replacing your Nexus Ones. I just bought a Nexus One to replace my G1. I guess I'm a bit behind technologically. :P
Ah I know how you feel! I just bought a Nexus One a few months ago to replace my myTouch, even knowing of the N1's problems and age. I just Love the look of the Nexus One (the most attractive phone in my opinion) and its multicolored trackball is a Huge plus for me. Also, the fact that barely anyone has this phone is pretty cool ^^
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I love my N1 but the only thing that I can consider replacing it with is the Nexus Prime this Thanksgiving when that comes out....the specs are crazy and it will be on another level when it hits.
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I love my N1 but the only thing that I can consider replacing it with is the Nexus Prime this Thanksgiving when that comes out....the specs are crazy and it will be on another level when it hits.
I am staying away from any mention of the Nexus Prime (3) or whatever until it comes out in Q4 and I know what the specs are. Following the Nexus S rumours for months only ended up in a big fat disappointment for me.
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My 2-year Nexus one anniversary is in November, I will be upgrading at thattime as I am on a friends loaner N1 since I took mine swimming (the nexus onecan't swim if anyone was curious). I also learned that some people don't takevery good care of the devices, my phone had maybe 1 or 2 dings from gettingdropped this phone looks like it went to war and the power button is brokewhich has been difficult to get used to.
As of right now I am getting the Sensation but we will see what is out bythen I don't see anything exciting on the horizon and with the N3 going to beanother Samsung it is out of the question.
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The only two phones that i want are the GS2 and the N3. At this point it looks like the GS2 will come out by the time the N3 gets detailed
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There are a lot of devices that faster than the Nexus One, right now.
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I don't know how is your N1 getting a "2-year anniversary" this November when it only came out in January 2010. But right now nothing looks that good. Unless it's vanilla android, I don't want it. I think the N3 will be my next device.
I got my N1 in March 2010 and I HAVE to use it for at least 2 years in order to get my money's worth ($500+).

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As of right now I am getting the Sensation but we will see what is out bythen I don't see anything exciting on the horizon and with the N3 going to beanother Samsung it is out of the question.
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Looks like I will be jumping ship shortly too, to a sammy s2.

The n1 is still fast enough for me but I have hardly any apps on it anymore. Installing google+ the other week meant I had to delete a boatload more to squeeze it on.

If it wasn't for the almost weekly app purge I am now doing, I would also wait until the rumoured n3..
I agree on the "weekly app" purges. If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't even be considering another phone. I'm going with the galaxy s2 though. I'd rather have a phone that I can use and that I can put apps on, then wait for a phone that isn't even close to reality yet.

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So I did get the Galaxy S2 and it's quite a change from the N1!

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The ringer is LOUD
Volume in calls is perfect
The build quality feels very flimsy compared to the metal housing of the N1. the plastic feels too light.
The sound for music, etc is great - not tinny or choppy but good without headphones
The screen is excellent with some beautiful colors
The camera is also excellent, with controllable flash etc.

So if you're thinking of changing, this is a good phone to get, and one that won't have you missing your N1 too much. Especially after you add app after app without even coming close to filling up the available memory.
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