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Old January 13th, 2010, 11:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Google Nexus One's First Week of Sales Were Weak, Report says - PC World

Granted, the N1 didn't have the mega marketing campaign the DROID had, but even so, the DROID moved 100,000 units in its first launch weekend. For 20,000 units across a week, utilizing a soft push, there must have been some influence from the high $500+ price tag, and the T-Mo partnership. I think we will see the true value of the phone when it moves to a real network like VZW. But by that time, there will be strong confirmations of other sexier Android phones, namely the Sony X10 and others. The N1 was even outsold by the MyTouch3G compared to its first week.

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lol sonfabit<h....Just as I was done typing mine out I see the lil mini search and see you already got this up. =-P.


Ideally...
Nexus One becomes a hot new item that everyone wants...but noone buys. That way the ones that have it look awesome , and the the problems associated with it and Googles sales issues get rectified sooner.
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Only being sold through the web instead of at a wide number of retail outlets will also make a large difference from the Nexus and any other phones.
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Well, this spells bad news for Google, as they were hoping it would be a platform. Whether they sold 200 or 200,000, I think they would have understood the limitations of their sales issues and problems. I mean, how many complaints does it take to recognize there's an issue? 30? 50? 100? One thing is for sure: Once the next manufacturer steps up to the plate, I'm sure Google will have figured out better ways to push the device. Bodes well for the N2.
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Only being sold through the web instead of at a wide number of retail outlets will also make a large difference from the Nexus and any other phones.
This is true which why I already mentioned the "soft push." But remember, this is supposed to be Google's "new and innovative" sales model. The concept that web advertisement being further reaching and more invasive and penetrating than the traditional sales model. I think what you see here is that it isn't true. A banner ad while checking out Androlib.com can't replace 15 second spots on TV, in between shows on Must-See-TV. It can't replace the ability for a customer to walk into a "brick and mortar" store, get a hands-on feel. These are things I think Google has taken for granted. So, it IS an apt comparison because this was the comparison Google sought to make an example out of. Remember, Google's intent is to put this phone in the hands of a LOT of people. But that just doesn't seem to be the case.
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I think this is to be expected based on their limited distribution and the fact that they are offering a premium product. The masses will not understand what to get exactly and that is where the big numbers come from.

I think it is good that the numbers are a bit lower that hopes as their support system is clearly not up to the task yet.
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Supposedly, the lack of a major advertising campaign is supposed to reduce the overall cost of the phone. So, is Google expecting us to believe that since they didn't have a major ad campaign on TV and in stores allowed them to lower the price of the device by $20 under contract and $70 from an unlocked version? Not really a savings in my opinion.
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i think the low sales number has to do with the fact that they teamed up with TMobile and the service allowed for the subsidized plan. TMobile ranks as the 4th wireless carrier in the US and have a small market. Also, the only plan people can get is the $80 plan if they bought is subsidized and don't allow for it to be added to family plan and other plans. So, if someone wanted to add a line to family plan, they can't, unless they play the full price.

The other issue I see is the price for the unlocked device. Yes, it's a good deal since it is unlocked, but the economy is in bad shape and people aren't going to dump that much for a phone they can only use on TMobile.

Now, the sales would have been higher if Google had 2 versions of the phone that included 3G band for both TMobile and AT&T and allowed more choices for the plans.
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i think the low sales number has to do with the fact that they teamed up with TMobile and the service allowed for the subsidized plan. TMobile ranks as the 4th wireless carrier in the US and have a small market. Also, the only plan people can get is the $80 plan if they bought is subsidized and don't allow for it to be added to family plan and other plans. So, if someone wanted to add a line to family plan, they can't, unless they play the full price.

The other issue I see is the price for the unlocked device. Yes, it's a good deal since it is unlocked, but the economy is in bad shape and people aren't going to dump that much for a phone they can only use on TMobile.

Now, the sales would have been higher if Google had 2 versions of the phone that included 3G band for both TMobile and AT&T and allowed more choices for the plans.

Agreed.
Sadly I think Tmo may get some of the blame. I hope it doesnt hurt the Google/Tmo relationship.

That said locking people into one plan is ludicrous. "Unlocked" with only one 3g band didnt make much sense.

Not even having dummy models in Tmo stores IMO is the real killer. Having demos in the store and even if Tmo stores were simply filling the orders would have led to many more sales IMO.
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Dummy models would have been in conflict with what Google is trying to do, i.e. a true web experience, no "brick and mortar" stores. So, GOOG will live and die by this model until they swallow their pride and recognize that nothing beats the human experience of holding, seeing, playing with the device.

What Google SHOULD have done was WAIT. Why push out the N1 now? Why not wait until they had more than one carrier on board instead of pigeon-holing people into a T-Mo account knowing that MOST people buy their phones with a carrier plan. In other words, they didn't stack the deck for success.

I would have had T-Mo lined up. Had VZW lined up. Had Vodaphone ready to go. THEN LAUNCH the phone. In fact, this was a question Rubin was asked in an interview which he cleverly dodged. How can you tell people you're giving them options when there are only two vastly different options -- buy it for $500 or go with T-Mo?
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Yeah I really think they should at least have one demo device at the store for people to even see it there. They might not hear of it otherwise. And get rid of the stupid plan limitations.
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Yeah I really think they should at least have one demo device at the store for people to even see it there. They might not hear of it otherwise. And get rid of the stupid plan limitations.
Again, that's the point Google is trying to make: More people will hear about the Nexus with the web compared to the traditional "brick and mortar" stores because everyone searches the web everyday. Hence, no demo devices at T-Mo stores. On top of that, it's not even recognized as a T-Mo phone, which is another reason it's not at stores. T-Mo is just providing service.
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Again, that's the point Google is trying to make: More people will hear about the Nexus with the web compared to the traditional "brick and mortar" stores because everyone searches the web everyday. Hence, no demo devices at T-Mo stores. On top of that, it's not even recognized as a T-Mo phone, which is another reason it's not at stores. T-Mo is just providing service.
How is anyone to hear about it online? They don't even have it on the Google home page anymore. There are people that don't keep up on every hot new device. And it's strange that they offer the phone with a contract, but isn't really a T-mo phone. I understand it being sold without contract like many other non-branded devices (for example: Nokia N900), but haven't ever seen a device sold with a contract, but not "official" (as is the case with Nexus One). Strange.
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How is anyone to hear about it online?
I don't know!!! Ask Google, it's their model. All I know is I'm sick of the N1 banner ads cluttering up my webpages. Good luck seeing it if you have an AdBlocker! Oops, Google didn't think about that one!

Before this whole thing was unveiled and there was speculation of this kind of model, commentators were saying to Google, "At least partner up with Best Buy to distribute and manage customers," which I think would have helped and been great for the phone. It would have at least surpassed the MyTouch3G @ 60,000 in its first week.
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I'm actually work at T-Mobile. It's seems to me that Google really played this wrong from several ends. I totally get and respect what they were trying to do though. Customers are coming up to the store expecting T-Mobile to actually have demos to play with. No one buys a 500+ phone without having their own hands on impressions with it first. Not only that, but a lot of them have heard of the device, but still don't understand why they can only get online or where they go online to get it. We tell them of course, but then they just ask again when we are going to get it in stores.

You know it's also bad when T-Mobile reps themselves refusing to mention the phone. Why go for a MyTouch 3g that's 400 full retail on a no contract plan when it's no longer even the best Android phone? That just hurts our in store numbers and not to mention our paychecks. It's gotten to the point where we don't even mention the N1 unless the customer brings it up first. Not to mention we can't accurately talk about the N1. I've only seen it myself 2 times, and both are with random customers looking to see if T-Mobile had some accessories such as screen protectors for it. They graciously allowed us to play with it and get some hands on impressions.

Like I said...I get what they were trying to do, but it just seems like something was lost in translation. This is way different than buying a book on amazon, or a pair of shoes online. I love the phone and am anxiously saving up myself to get it, but I think if people were expecting iPhone numbers this first week, then they were mistaken.
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Its my belief that Google wanted this as a slowly rolling product.

Why would you roll out you new major line to a less than carrier unless you are basically using the small market as a test for bigger things to come.

Obviously there are significant hurdles to overcome. Customer Service, VoIP adoptation by users, and the Google 'Store'. All of these hurdles are much easier to grasp and fix when dealing with a soft release in limited numbers. Had this phone dropped 150k in the first week it would only compound the problems already being experienced.
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How is anyone to hear about it online? They don't even have it on the Google home page anymore. There are people that don't keep up on every hot new device. And it's strange that they offer the phone with a contract, but isn't really a T-mo phone. I understand it being sold without contract like many other non-branded devices (for example: Nokia N900), but haven't ever seen a device sold with a contract, but not "official" (as is the case with Nexus One). Strange.
Adsense. Putting it on advertisements on several websites.
I think the problem is not solely you can only buy it online (for Xmas brick and mortar sales down but online sales were up) but rather Google's crappy options for getting it online. The smallest coverage network and not really great pricing options if you were already on Tmobile or were on a family plan. Its just not that superior of a phone to warrant the prices.
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firstly: I dont trust pc world much so I'll wait til I see a more credible source citing that.

Secondly: I dont want to get into the details too much as Im sure we all think differently on this but I agree with some others that google are purposly planning a slow roll out. hence the delayed roll out to european carriers etc.

thirdly Who cares!! as long as the phones what I expected and wanted when it arrives I dont care if they ship 5 5000 or 5 million just live love and use the phone guys
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I've not even seen any ads for the N1 online! Plenty of Google Chrome billboards around where I live in the UK though.
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The moto droid needed a massive advertising campaign since the device is only mediocre quality, mediocre usability and to hide the ergonomic nightmare.


The Nexus One needs no campaign due to superior hardware, superior design and build quality.
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The moto droid needed a massive advertising campaign since the device is only mediocre quality, mediocre usability and to hide the ergonomic nightmare.


The Nexus One needs no campaign due to superior hardware, superior design and build quality.
Yes its so bad ergonomically that people who were actually able to touch and hold it bought it in large amounts. Nice logic there Sherlock.
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The moto droid needed a massive advertising campaign since the device is only mediocre quality, mediocre usability and to hide the ergonomic nightmare.


The Nexus One needs no campaign due to superior hardware, superior design and build quality.

More facts I see.
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Yes its so bad ergonomically that people who were actually able to touch and hold it bought it in large amounts. Nice logic there Sherlock.
Dude, don't try to reason with those kinds of comments. The DROID sold 1.2 million units. There's a reason for that other than advertisement campaigns. It means that people were veritably impressed by the device. Not only do you have to sell that many, but consumers have to RETAIN the device. If it sucked so bad, people would have returned it.
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firstly: I dont trust pc world much so I'll wait til I see a more credible source citing that.
It's not PC World. It's Flurry Analytics. Flurry offers cutting-edge analytics, deployment and monetization tools for mobile application developers. They are able to estimate the number of units in the market and have been pretty accurate with the other three phones listed in the comparison. It's a pretty accurate estimate, but still an estimate
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The moto droid needed a massive advertising campaign since the device is only mediocre quality, mediocre usability and to hide the ergonomic nightmare.


The Nexus One needs no campaign due to superior hardware, superior design and build quality.

Everybody needs advertising. Unless Google thinks they make Nexus one the paranormal activity of phones they need to get this device into peoples line of sight.
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Once Google changes its's pricing structure and gets the N1 out to more people (the 2nd part happens when verizon (#1 US) and Vodafone (#1 world outside of China) come online) we'll see much better sales numbers.
Right now they picked the smallest amount of people to sell to that can get the full use out of the N1.
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From the sounds of Erick Tseng, it seems like even at the CES event, they were still in negotiations with VZW about price and plan structures. My impression from what he said made it sound like the phone would be sold unlocked with CDMA technology with VZW to offer their plans on TOP of that price. Because the question was specifically about subsidy and VZW may not be willing to subsidize. I'll go listen to the interview again, but I think that's the sounds of it.

EDIT: Okay, listened to it again. Erick Tseng said the details of the VZW haven't been firmed up yet. Joshua Topolsky (of Engadget) said he spoke with Verizon Wireless people at CES and they said it appears Google will sell the phone and VZW will sell the plan, unsubsidized. But again, nothing is confirmed yet.
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Once Google changes its's pricing structure and gets the N1 out to more people (the 2nd part happens when verizon (#1 US) and Vodafone (#1 world outside of China) come online) we'll see much better sales numbers.
Right now they picked the smallest amount of people to sell to that can get the full use out of the N1.
i agree, i think the numbers will increase once it hits Verizon in the US

to me, it seems like a waste to sell it unlocked now since it can only be used fully under TMobile services...i'm guessing the sales would have been much more if the unlocked version supported AT&T (#2 US) and Telus and Rogers in Canada
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What's weird is, Google is planning on having different SKU for the N1: Unlocked (T-Mo) [works on T-Mo 3G, but not at&t], unlocked (VZW) [works on VZW not Sprint], unlocked Vodaphone. So, basically, still carrier specific UNLESS, the VZW unlocked phone is one of their "world phone" formats (CDMA+GSM). That'd be worth picking up
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The average person is not going to spend $530 + tax on a phone that is impossible to get hands on with prior to purchase. That is asking way too much from the consumer. Google screwed up badly by not selling this phone through T-Mobile for that reason alone, or at least setting up a display in T-Mobile stores with a prompt to order it online through Google right then and there. Not everyone knows about the Android Forums where you can come online and get all of your questions answered from people who actually have the phone. It's too much of a secret to go with that high price tag. Ridiculous, really.

This phone wasn't marketed very well either. The majority of people I mention it to don't have a clue. The ones that do, only know about it because of the internet ads.
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Besides, I don't think many people are willing to pick up and leave Verizon or AT&T for T-Mobile's spotty 3G networks at that price tag, ESPECIALLY without a hands on experience up front. I also don't think many people would be willing to pay $530 for a phone that doesn't work on 3G (AT&T customers).

This phone WILL NOT SELL unless the price tag drops tremendously and/or it becomes available via T-Mobile retail outlets.
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Well, that was the plan with an online store. It's supposed to cut down on overhead and money a carrier would spend on advertisements, etc. But the DROID that VZW spent $100 million in advertising costs $199 with contract and $599 without. So, you're telling me that it costs $70 per phone to get some TV ads and put the phone in an actual store? Here's what I got to say:

"Hey GOOGLE, spend the $70!"
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Besides, I don't think many people are willing to pick up and leave Verizon or AT&T for T-Mobile's spotty 3G networks at that price tag, ESPECIALLY without a hands on experience up front. I also don't think many people would be willing to pay $530 for a phone that doesn't work on 3G (AT&T customers).

This phone WILL NOT SELL unless the price tag drops tremendously and/or it becomes available via T-Mobile retail outlets.
I agree. Google dropped the ball on this one. What's the point of unlocked phone if it ONLY fully functions under TMobile? No matter what Google says, the N1 is tied to TMobile, regardless if it can be bought unlocked.

What Google should have done is not have it tied to a specific carrier and instead just sell it unlocked that is compatible to all the major GSM carriers in North America (ATT, TMobile, Telus, Rogers). This way, the consumer would actually have the choice to which carrier they want to go with.
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Remember back in the day when phones would be sold and marketed as "dual band" or tri-band" or even "quad band"? So much technology and they couldn't create a phone a couple of antennae in it. Not an engineer, so I don't even know if that's possible.
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funny how most people b!tch1ng in this thread DON'T EVEN OWN a Nexus One...
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They don't need to own an N1. Like me for example, I just want to see Android succeed. But Google selling just 20,000 units in the first week isn't good news.
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it's ONE week... without any huge marketing campaign, online only sales, high price for some (non-contract price), or a subsidized price that is attached to a plan that isn't for everyone... and the biggest hurdle/mistake, was announcing that's it's "coming" on other networks ahead of time... Google should have waited a couple weeks to say "BTW - it's also coming to VZW and Vodafone".... I bet a TON of people held off for that reason alone...

The Nexus One's time will come... only a few weeks away from it hitting other networks (VZ & Voda)....

I'm not upset or worried about this so-called 20K sales number... for all we know, it's not even accurate...

Frankly, it's kind of refreshing to have a device that a million other people around me also have... ONE device will not define the fate of Android as a whole... Nexus One - even if not a sales success *right now* - is still a showcase device... AMOLED 800x480, Snapdragon, etc... Sure it will be joined with a slew of other devices have the same or more soon enough, but it's the first, and is promoting progress in the smartphone market... it's far from being an "iPhone" in terms of revolution... But honestly, all the hubub about the Nexus One right now is because people's EXPECTATIONS are just way too friggin' high... and there's no sign of the general public's change in attitude in that respect... Everyone is expecting another "iPhone" with every new smartphone hitting the market.... I mean c'mon.... get real...
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i agree, i think the numbers will increase once it hits Verizon in the US

to me, it seems like a waste to sell it unlocked now since it can only be used fully under TMobile services...i'm guessing the sales would have been much more if the unlocked version supported AT&T (#2 US) and Telus and Rogers in Canada

i can't imagine it won't eventually be offered to Bell, Telus or Rogers in Canada... or maybe WIND mobile (which also uses the AWS 1700 MHz band like T-Mo US)
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i can't imagine it won't eventually be offered to Bell, Telus or Rogers in Canada... or maybe WIND mobile (which also uses the AWS 1700 MHz band like T-Mo US)
i believe WIND mobile is getting the N1
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What's weird is, Google is planning on having different SKU for the N1: Unlocked (T-Mo) [works on T-Mo 3G, but not at&t], unlocked (VZW) [works on VZW not Sprint], unlocked Vodaphone. So, basically, still carrier specific UNLESS, the VZW unlocked phone is one of their "world phone" formats (CDMA+GSM). That'd be worth picking up
if it was a "world phone" as vzw has done with the Tour, Storm and a few others... it would likely only support Europe's 2100 UMTS band... not 850/1900 or 1700.... at least that's how all their world phones have been up to now, knowing that US peeps can't use the UMTS 3G over here... it's meant to use on Vodafone (VZW's "partner") when traveling to Europe...
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It meets the "unlocked" criteria in the UK. This phone will work on any network here, and in the rest of Europe. We have a thing called consistency I feel sorry for you guys that some of your phone choices are already made for you just because you are on a certain network that a phone doesn't support.
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Add this guy to the list that will purchase the day it comes out on Verizon. T Mobile was not for me.
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If they had really wanted to shake the world I think they could've found a way to release it with multiple bands and multiple partners at launch...this just seems like a hack job and a tmobile exclusive, again.

That's their prerogative. But I would think if they truly wanted the Phone that is free from carrier restrictions they could have introduced a phone that was truly free of carrier restrictions...the N1 is not... Unfortunately I'm still married to AT&T so I have to pray that we get the Bravo.
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Buying the thing as an existing T-Mobile customer was a pain, and most people who were interested in Android most likely bought a Droid. Not surprised at all.
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If I'm not mistaken, 20,000 units, at $500 a pop, is roughly $10million--in a week!--with hardly any overhead (ok maybe a million here, a million there for online advertising).

That aside, Google's approach from the beginning was never shock and awe. It was and still is more organic. Maybe Google is taking a playbook from the 1980s Apple v. PC playbook, where Apple remained mired in a closed platform and lost. Apple came out with a bang in 1980, but quickly lost ground to PCs based on MS-DOS. The first PCs got the job done, and some sold better than others (100,000 units in the first week versus 20,000?). Yet they made up the gap with overall volume and market saturation (think Hero, MT3G, G1, Moment, Eris, Droid... N1). Here we are 30 years later and what variety can you get from Apple? Yep, a closed source iPhone.

In my opinion, Google's goal with the N1 wasn't an iPhone killer, it was a revolution. And revolutions don't always change things overnight, or even over a week; sometimes, they takes months or years. 20,000 units is--in the grand scheme of things--just a number, but it is 20,000 more revolutionaries in Google's pocket (or vice versa?).
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I don't think google cares that much, they are not in the hardware business. They are simply using this phone to push other manufacturers forward. They don't want android and the devices to stagnate. I don't think the desire was ever to push a ton of these.
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T-Mobile employees arent even trained in the N1...heck the visits I have made to the store 2 didnt even know what it was. I am not suprised the number is so low. Google isnt throwing out this huge marketing plan like Verizon. AND I think that is a good thing. When the iPhone came out it was SUPER expensive and nobody had one because of how spendy. I was proud to carry around a unique and top of the line phone. Then they changed things up with the 3G and 3GS and now EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHERS have one.

Now with an N1, I like that I am a rare bunch that carries one. I practically had to pry it from the T-Mobile rep that essentially begged me to play with it...And for what its worth I scored her phone number too...AWWWW YEA.
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If I'm not mistaken, 20,000 units, at $500 a pop, is roughly $10million--in a week!--with hardly any overhead (ok maybe a million here, a million there for online advertising).

That aside, Google's approach from the beginning was never shock and awe. It was and still is more organic. Maybe Google is taking a playbook from the 1980s Apple v. PC playbook, where Apple remained mired in a closed platform and lost. Apple came out with a bang in 1980, but quickly lost ground to PCs based on MS-DOS. The first PCs got the job done, and some sold better than others (100,000 units in the first week versus 20,000?). Yet they made up the gap with overall volume and market saturation (think Hero, MT3G, G1, Moment, Eris, Droid... N1). Here we are 30 years later and what variety can you get from Apple? Yep, a closed source iPhone.

In my opinion, Google's goal with the N1 wasn't an iPhone killer, it was a revolution. And revolutions don't always change things overnight, or even over a week; sometimes, they takes months or years. 20,000 units is--in the grand scheme of things--just a number, but it is 20,000 more revolutionaries in Google's pocket (or vice versa?).
Actually revolutions do change things overnight. The end result may not be known overnight, but a revolution by its very nature changes the environment immediately.
Also Google isn't getting that whole $500. First off most are being sold subsidized. Second Google does not make the phone, HTC does. They get a good chunk of change from each sold.
Overhead would also include their new tech support people they've had to hire, their infrastructure, and so on and so forth.
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I don't think google cares that much, they are not in the hardware business. They are simply using this phone to push other manufacturers forward. They don't want android and the devices to stagnate. I don't think the desire was ever to push a ton of these.
Except dont they need to move alot to convince the phone makers its truly a viable way to sell their phones?
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It meets the "unlocked" criteria in the UK. This phone will work on any network here, and in the rest of Europe. We have a thing called consistency I feel sorry for you guys that some of your phone choices are already made for you just because you are on a certain network that a phone doesn't support.
as far as "consistency" as you put it... lol... yeah, Europe puts us (here in NA) to shame... why can't we have true GLOBAL standards...

(at least it's nice to know that the Nexus One, not only does it have 1700 UMTS, but also 900/2100 UMTS... so if I did travel to Europe... i'd be all set

PS - good job on the digits! ... lol... at my local T-Mo store... they are all dogs anyways...
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