I doubt it, it surprises me how many people out there have no clue this phone exists.
Even T-Mo users who are looking for a new android device are like, "Huh?" when I mention N1.
People -in general- only buy what they're told to buy. There's a reason companies spend millions on television advertising... it's the only thing that gets through to us.
i agree as well. as long as google keeps supporting this phone i like the fact that not too many people own it. i prefer to own a phone that the joe-six-packs of the world have no clue about b/c they don't see commercials for it every 15mins on TV and therefore the phone isn't designed to cater to the lowest common denominator.
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it is a fail, but right now, no other better device for me (touch, high res screen, T-Mo US 3G)... i'm just waiting for the next worthy device and i'm out
__________________ SOLD but not forgotten Google Nexus One T-Mobile - EM Plus MoDaCo Desire ROM w/ Sense UI-Alpha 19
It honestly amazes me at the amount of ******ation people have.
Google is trying to change the U.S market with the Nexus One. Crazy? No. With the powers of Google they can do it, and is doing it.
How or what I'm I talking about you ask?
Overseas (other than the U.S) people already buy their phones outright, here in the U.S people buy what their told via advertising, because they are to stupid to think for themselves, not to mention most don't know jack about tech stuff.
Lets put it this way..if Google really wanted to get this phone out there they could advertise their ass off with the amount of cash they sit on. But they haven't because their letting the word of mouth and Google ads sell the phone, and THAT has actually set sale records by itself.
let's see... after requesting a return for refund (I shipped back my 1st Nexus, in box, with everything original in it)... instead of refunding me, they sent me back Nexus in a generic box, no battery, no accessories, no documention, basically nothing... so had to return that... then they said 2 weeks to get a refund... it took OVER 7 weeks to get it... saying it was Google's issue... then Google saying it was HTC's issue... took a gazillion phone calls and ultimately threats of legal action combined with the last phone call demanding this get resolved before I got off the phone.... took my persistence, along with finally a Google customer tech that cared enough to dig deeper and contact HTC directly, to get it resolved...
imo, HTC is the worst company i've ever come across in regards to customer service... they plain effing suck.... maybe in other countries it's better (the UK guys seem to have very good HTC support)... but here in the US... HTC support is an effing JOKE.... I never say never, or at the very least I know I shouldn't, but trust me... my Nexus is the LAST HTC device I'll ever buy... I'm using now, only because there is currently nothing better out there for T-Mo.... as soon as there is... goodbye HTC device.... I sure hope Google partners with someone else for the Nexus Two... because I am DONE with HTC...
And no, outside the US we get almost all our handsets subsidised - certainly in the UK and Europe. Even O2 (Original Apple partner) realised people wouldnt stump up £500 + contract airtime/month for a phone no matter how fancy the PR machine.
Most handsets are either free or sub £100 on reasonable contracts.
The way you guys buy phones wont work over here because for the last 18 years we've never had to buy them that way, so why start now?
Also remember until the iphone came along in the US, very few demanded internet, SMS and even MMS. We've lived on that as a basic function of every handset for nearly 10 years. Apple didnt invent the market as they claim.
We've also had 3G coverage that supports it, which you guys still dont have in vast areas of the US.
who cares how good or bad the sales are... anyone with a Nexus has one because they sought it, like it, and are fed up with carrier soured devices... wtf would anyone want a phone that every pimple faced teenager and old grandma has (cough iphone cough)... i relish the Nexus' exclusivity and rareness... let it be a slow seller... it's a showcase device for Android... it's like the Corvette, GT and Viper than draws the masses to buy Cobalts, Focuses and Calibers respectively... let the carrier branded and crippled HTC and Motorola android devices have all the sales and (duh)mass-appeal... leave the forefront of technology and the geek appeal to the Nexus One... here here!!
It actually surprises me how many people know about the N1 in the UK even if they haven't seen one b4. Who cares if it's a success or not, its a damn good phone that if you've noticed every few weeks or so since launch some new Google software appears, Browser Multi-touch, Earth, Gesture, Googles and Layer are all making it an even better user experience.
It honestly amazes me at the amount of ******ation people have.
Google is trying to change the U.S market with the Nexus One. Crazy? No. With the powers of Google they can do it, and is doing it.
I'm sorry, but "chang[ing] the U.S. market" for the worst isn't a good thing. I'd like to be able to swap my phone on the fly when the screen spontaneously cracks or I'm dissatisfied with it. There should be no reason for me to go without a phone for half a week, there should be no reason for me to have to deal with the "run around" for weeks, and there should be no reason I have to get ~$500 locked up as credit while a "new" phone is sent to me.
I'm sorry, but "chang[ing] the U.S. market" for the worst isn't a good thing. I'd like to be able to swap my phone on the fly when the screen spontaneously cracks or I'm dissatisfied with it. There should be no reason for me to go without a phone for half a week, there should be no reason for me to have to deal with the "run around" for weeks, and there should be no reason I have to get ~$500 locked up as credit while a "new" phone is sent to me.
[Yet more chicken little antics...[sigh]]
You make a lot of noise for someone who does not actually **OWNS** an N1! Your so called excuse for this was that you are in the market for an N1, yet post after post are filled with negative comments. I never heard anyone wanting to buy a product so depressed and hateful about it.
I'm sorry, but "chang[ing] the U.S. market" for the worst isn't a good thing. I'd like to be able to swap my phone on the fly when the screen spontaneously cracks or I'm dissatisfied with it. There should be no reason for me to go without a phone for half a week, there should be no reason for me to have to deal with the "run around" for weeks, and there should be no reason I have to get ~$500 locked up as credit while a "new" phone is sent to me.
So... how much of this have you experienced firsthand?
so look at this:
over a million droids sold;
over a hundred thousand nexus ones sold;
nexus one now available on tmobile and at&t domestically, works abroad as well
coming to sprint and verizon(so that will cover ALL MAJOR CARRIERS)
and you want to call the nexus one a flop?
furthermore, it was released today by google that the android market has almost doubled in size in the last THREE MONTHS(16k-30k). this is obviously due to the release and overwhelming success of these two models.
the nexus one wasn't meant to be this gigantic whirlwind of success that the iphone had. we were essentially a beta group. what we are seeing now is that they have nailed down a lot of the major issues that we saw those initial few months, and htc/google are looking to expand the market. 100000 may be something that apple would call a flop, but i don't think that google is disapointed at all. if they were, you would see them pulling support and looking into a nexus 2, not expanding their market reach with the phone.
Not to mention: it was an indirect push to get everyone else to update to the latest Android. Had the N1 not come out, do you imagine Samsung, HTC and Motorola would be pressured day in, day out for an OS update? Everyone'd still be stuck with 1.5 or 1.6 (or 2.01 in the Droid's case). A newer version of Android might float around somewhere, but people likely wouldn't be clamoring for it.
So... how much of this have you experienced firsthand?
Plenty of times with other phones, if my phone is dead I should be able to go to the Verizon store and swap it out.
I don't see why you guys are so blinded by the fact that "Google does no evil." It doesn't take much in terms of brain power to put two-and-two together. It isn't even a Nexus One thing, it is a phone thing. If it fails there should be a way to swap it out on-the-fly, or did that go over your head... again?
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let's see... after requesting a return for refund (I shipped back my 1st Nexus, in box, with everything original in it)... instead of refunding me, they sent me back Nexus in a generic box, no battery, no accessories, no documention, basically nothing... so had to return that... then they said 2 weeks to get a refund... it took OVER 7 weeks to get it... saying it was Google's issue... then Google saying it was HTC's issue... took a gazillion phone calls and ultimately threats of legal action combined with the last phone call demanding this get resolved before I got off the phone.... took my persistence, along with finally a Google customer tech that cared enough to dig deeper and contact HTC directly, to get it resolved...
imo, HTC is the worst company i've ever come across in regards to customer service... they plain effing suck.... maybe in other countries it's better (the UK guys seem to have very good HTC support)... but here in the US... HTC support is an effing JOKE.... I never say never, or at the very least I know I shouldn't, but trust me... my Nexus is the LAST HTC device I'll ever buy... I'm using now, only because there is currently nothing better out there for T-Mo.... as soon as there is... goodbye HTC device.... I sure hope Google partners with someone else for the Nexus Two... because I am DONE with HTC...
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Sorry you had so much trouble ... it might be the exception, however. I recently got one, returned it within the first 10 days, and already got credit in Google Checkout within about a week after its return. Like most here, awaiting the Verizon version or Incredible to jump back in.
If you guys want to talk about fanboys and blind loyalty, look at Apple users. Hello, look at how you guys are talking about VZW. I don't know where you get the idea that if uou have a prob with your VZW phone you can walk in to a VZW store and swap it for a new phone. That is NOT the policy. They mail you one out . Same as HTC.
If you guys want to talk about fanboys and blind loyalty, look at Apple users. Hello, look at how you guys are talking about VZW. I don't know where you get the idea that if uou have a prob with your VZW phone you can walk in to a VZW store and swap it for a new phone. That is NOT the policy. They mail you one out . Same as HTC.
You can actually go to a vzw store and swap out a phone if certain criteria exists. Ive done it already with my storm.
Nexus one isn't a flop... necessarily. I mean, Google comes out with a flagship device that's going to blow all other handsets out of the water hardware-wise. If google wanted it to sell huge amounts upon release, they would've had advertised it like no tomorrow, emphasis here on the word IF.
My take on it is that the Nexus One was released on T-Mobile as a test to see if it has any major quirks or problems (which Google has addressed quite swiftly I might add). Now that it's going to be available on every network, isn't this a better time to go all in with the marketing dollars? We'll just have to wait and see but you can't really call Nexus One a flop if it doesn't sell millions if it isn't meant to sell millions.
In addition you can't say that Google just *forgot* or didn't see marketing *necessary* to promote the N1. They are one of the biggest companies in the world for a reason and I believe everything is going as planned. What that plan is? We'll soon find out.
Nope, my point however seems to have whooshed right over your head. What are you even doing here, anyway?
Well, QrafTee said in a post he is here doing "research" on the N1 because he is/was in the market to get it once it's on Verizon. Quite a few posts I have seen was far too negative to believe that.
Funny, for someone who has an "interest" to go way out his way to make sure everyone not forget the N1's flaws, real or perceived.
From day one, this poser was a troll in my book....
Well, QrafTee said in a post he is here doing "research" on the N1 because he is/was in the market to get it once it's on Verizon. Quite a few posts I have seen was far too negative to believe that.
Funny, for someone who has an "interest" to go way out his way to make sure everyone not forget the N1's flaws, real or perceived.
From day one, this poser was a troll in my book....
Oh is that so? Try going back to early to mid-February posts and read them.
personaly i hope it stays limited for a while longer, i just placed my order and the only one i have seen so far was an hour drive from me, im excited over having the rare phone.
Sorry you had so much trouble ... it might be the exception, however. I recently got one, returned it within the first 10 days, and already got credit in Google Checkout within about a week after its return. Like most here, awaiting the Verizon version or Incredible to jump back in.
i'm glad you had a good experience... i wouldn't want my worst enemy to go through the headaches i had with HTC... well maybe a few that shall remain nameless...
CTIA is upon us... sounds like the Supersonic might get announced... that will be interesting, as it's more than just a Nexus close (as the Desire, Incredible seem to be more or less)... Supersonic supposed to be WiMax, and 1.5Ghz Snapdragon... unless it has a physically massive battery, i can't imagine how much of a battery hog that thing will be!
personaly i hope it stays limited for a while longer, i just placed my order and the only one i have seen so far was an hour drive from me, im excited over having the rare phone.
agreed... let the masses flock to the HTC Sense devices (Desire, Incredible, Legend, etc.).... let us geeks stay in the minority with the Nexus
i had iphones since the launched back in '07, but as of the last 6-months to a year... I couldn't stand seeing one on every street corner, not just that, but owned by kids, tweeners, old geezers, non tech folk, etc.... truly way to mainstream for my taste...
I just ordered my N1. Looking fwd to my return to Android from BB.
After using the Hero with Sense, I decided it just not worth it. It takes these manufacturers too long to integrate their UI updates into the latest Android version. I'm happy sticking with vanilla Android if it means I'll get updates right away!
Changeing the market and being 'too smart for americans' as it all may be.. Has anyone ever considered that this is google's first real commercial product and they're just taking it slow? Especially to tackle all the problems they might've overlooked in the production process (like the poor customer service etc) in an early stage, rather than mass produce and try to compete with apple (a company who has been widely established selling all kinds of products around the world) right away.
Their sales could've been much, much higher but wisely, google is taking this one slow. Because this is a real product, in the real world
That said I'm also glad to be one of the few belgians to own a nexus, even tho 90% of the belgians don't even know what it is due to no advertising at all.
Heck I only heard about it a few months back.
Does anyone even remember when google first anounced the nexus one? I mean years ago when they first set out to make a smartphone. Seems like ages ago I heard about that
Well the product's "success" is defined in a manner where if the sales model fails, the product is a failure as well.
Actually it is defined by the one marketing and selling the product. If I create a product and it;s target audience is small I can still be successful.
Actually it is defined by the one marketing and selling the product. If I create a product and it;s target audience is small I can still be successful.
Bill
So as long as the "small target audience" is enough to offset the research, development, production, labor, and marketing costs... it would be satisfactory, but in no means successful because when board members come together and realize all this work has just been zeroed out, it's time to see what went wrong.
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Nexus is a FLOP!
