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Old June 26th, 2010, 06:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default apple 30-pin dock female connector to male micro usb

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i googled around and found this one. male apple 30-pin to female mini usb..

i'm looking for one the other way around and micro USB instead of mini USB. i also want it to pass through audio and power. asking too much? i'll settle for just power from adapter and then loop a mini-jack audio cable from N1 to the logitech audio dock.

there must be many people like me out there with 'ipod audio docks' now looking to hook up a micro usb audio device?
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Im looking for the same thing - just got a HTC desire but have a philips clock radio with Iphone connector - have you had any joy? - I think like you I need Ipod female to micro USB male but only small - so I can still see the display/clock which is situated at the top of the unit AJ301DB/12 Radio Alarm Clock with iPod Dock Compatible iPod tou : Goods Monkey

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I'm also looking for one. My car (2009 Infiniti fx) has Male Ipod plug. Need female to connect to that and mini usb male to connect to my Incredible. Someone must make one?!
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3rd party solutions not gonna happen if there are only three of us. i'll venture a wild guess and say apple will not build one..

for the techs out there; does the connector(s) spec allow for the possibility of audio pass through from the micro usb (phone) to the 30-pin apple connector audio dock so that the phone can get charged and play audio like an ipod/iphone?
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Make that four of us.

Has anyone found an elegant solution to allow Android phones to use iPhone audio docks?
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I've been searching the interwebs and found this CableJive: Universal Dock Converter
the next step is to splice it into this
DealExtreme: $4.46 3.5mm Audio + USB 5-Pin Charging Adapter for HTC P800/S1/Pro/Pro2/TD2/G2/3G/Diamond
and you will have what you want(assuming the N1 uses a similar port to other HTC built devices, I uses an Eris). Personally too many wires and I think would look messy.
I was thinking about buying an iphone dock, open it up, desolder the existing 30pin port and splice in one of the HTC compatible tips. All you need to do is use a voltmeter to find out which pins are ground and +5V and use a old audio cable to figure out which pins are for right and left.
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Would this not do what you want it to do?

iPod Female 3.5 Male AUX Extension Cable 4FT #IPD2JK - eBay (item 400113626231 end time Aug-03-10 13:34:21 PDT)

edit: read it again, but out of the box, can't really find anything, but this seems to be a popular choice.

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Sixth ...

Anyone had luck with the CableJive adapter that Earl mentioned? Seems like it's set up to use the standard-A USB male to miniUSB male cord that we all got with our phones, can't imagine why it wouldn't work, other than the typical proprietary tomfoolery surrounding Apple products.
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You could always try to make this.
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does anyone know if it is possible to dock and play music through micro usb HTC desire - with out the use of the a headphone jack and aux socket - my aux socket on my philips ipod dock alarm clock is not working - thanks in advance
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Anything off the shelf yet that someone has tried? Thanks!
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I forgot about this! Good work, but a bit ghetto!
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I believe this is what we are looking for.
CableJive: Universal Dock Converter
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CableJive: Universal Dock Converter

ok.. anyone out there find something that works? this one doing the trick?
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On a similar note, I found this:

Griffin Technology: TuneFlex AUX HandsFree - Mount, charge, and play your iPod or iPhone in your car

It would be perfect for my car since the cig lighter is right at the base of the console in the ashtray compartment so needs the bendy arm. But what I'd need is a female iPod/iPhone to micro usb connector. Anyone know of one? No luck at either google or ebay so far.
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I have a BMW Interface for Ipod/Iphone no luck
Bose No luck
Ihome no luck

on all three the power works after i put the 5v/3.5 Iphone adapter for the power on but this is not what i want. I can get power easier, not using an adapter on an adapter. But this i guess is more the Power issues on the Apple port . because to charge a 3 G or newer i need even than the adapter

But Sound wise no luck at all. Cable Jive said full refund no problem, but i kept it just to play around and maybe open it up.
There are some pins in the 30 pin connector who say USB and others straight AUX so i agree with Cable Jive it works on one and do not work ion the other...

Still looking .....
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I am looking at creating an adapter to put my Android phone into my Iphone base to play music and charge itself. I am curious if there was a product for $19.95, how many people would buy it.
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I need 2-3 small converters Ipod female to micro USB male. It would be good to keep the price down, but I definitely would buy one for my car which has been installed from inside the car. Thanks.

PS: I found this for my car: Sprint Anycom Bluetooth A2DP Receiver for iHome iP90. See http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190398627547+&item=190 398627547#ht_2816wt_786.
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I'm also looking for a way to use my Incredible with an IPOD dock...any luck, anyone?
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My guess is, not only do you need a ipod to usb converter, but you also need an android app to interpret the IOS specific commands from the audio device. This would then allow full integration.

I'm surprised Google never though of forcing manufacturers to use a dock connector like apple. This would have spurred lots of new devices and support for android phones. Rather, we have each device manufacturer putting their own usb connector, each one being different for every phone
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I'm surprised Google never though of forcing manufacturers to use a dock connector like apple. This would have spurred lots of new devices and support for android phones. Rather, we have each device manufacturer putting their own usb connector, each one being different for every phone

Are you freaking kidding me? No offense, but the whole proprietary connector thing Apple (and others) have going on is ridicules. USB or other industry standards should be followed. Even by Apple... Thank you Google/HTC for getting it right.

Now that people are migrating from their closed loop Apple systems they are stuck with all this audio kit and no way to connect non Apple audio devices to it. How crazy is it that we are more than a year on and still do not have Apple 30-pin to USB converters?

Open systems and industry standards will rule (eventually). I'll get off my horse now.
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My guess is, not only do you need a ipod to usb converter, but you also need an android app to interpret the IOS specific commands from the audio device. This would then allow full integration.
Yep, pretty sure it won't be as simple as just a plain connector - how many docks/car chargers etc are now no longer suitable for the newer generation iPods/iPhones?? I had a both a car charger and a pretty expensive (at the time) Altec Lansing portable dock for my iPod, when I plugged my iPhone 3GS in to either all I got was a "This accessory is not compatable with iPhone" message up. Apple push people down their own proprietry connector standard and can't even keep that from changing, way to suck more money out your consumer base though!

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I'm surprised Google never though of forcing manufacturers to use a dock connector like apple. This would have spurred lots of new devices and support for android phones. Rather, we have each device manufacturer putting their own usb connector, each one being different for every phone
This could be a reality sooner than you think. I'm pretty sure I read recently in a number of publications (including professional Engineering publications) that the EU was pushing for a standard connector and I believe a number of the big players have all signed up to standardise on micro USB.
In fact, see here for some more info.
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3rd party solutions not gonna happen if there are only three of us. i'll venture a wild guess and say apple will not build one..

for the techs out there; does the connector(s) spec allow for the possibility of audio pass through from the micro usb (phone) to the 30-pin apple connector audio dock so that the phone can get charged and play audio like an ipod/iphone?
If you ever get a female 30-pin connector cable with a micro usb connector on the other side the only thing is gonna do is charge it, no audio or video will come out....
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The gym I attend has treadmills and elliptical machinnes, each one decked out with a 30 pin iphone power connector...It's hardwired out of the machine, no USB ports or nothing. I'm amazed that a company would produce $5000 machines with hardwired connectors for a product that has a 30% market share rather than just have a couple USB ports and support everyone.
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Problem solved: CableJive dockBoss+: Smart USB and Audio Input Adapter for iPhone, iPod, iPad Docks
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I believe this is what we are looking for.
CableJive: Universal Dock Converter
Just ordered Dockboss+
CableJive dockBoss+: Smart USB and Audio Input Adapter for iPhone, iPod, iPad Docks looks just the ticket.

Can now look for a nice docking station for the bedroom....
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holly bejeepers. the market has spoken. and it only cost about as much as my little portable boombox with the apple connector..

anyone used it?
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They're out of stock for the next week. Does it work as advertised? Has anyone found a micro USB dock/speaker they like?
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CableJive dockBoss+: Smart USB and Audio Input Adapter for iPhone, iPod, iPad Docks looks just the ticket.

Can now look for a nice docking station for the bedroom....
I noticed that the website mentioned “dockBoss+ doesn't provide integration features like device control or playlists. It simply provides power and audio signals.” Has anybody found a cable solution with audio, power AND device control?

I was planning on hooking up my soon to be acquired Galaxy Nexus to my car stereo’s iPod interface AND be able to skip tracks with my steering wheel controls. I realize this would also require either in app support to decode the iPod specific controls or a third party plugin that would do it. This kind of plugin did exist for my jailbroken iPhone with Music Controls Pro (http://phoenix-dev.com/index.php?cat=Music_Controls_Pro#), so I was hoping there would be something similar for the Android platform that could decode iPod control signals and was compatible with various music apps.

Has anyone come across this kind of cable solution and/or software solution?
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Christ, trying to help here, just wanted to post a cheaper solution and this forum is making me jump hoops and waste my time - no good deed goes unpunished!

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Only $15: Amazon.com: Radtech 13-300 ProCable 3.5mm Male to 30-Pin Female Audio Adapter for Most 30-Pin Docks: Electronics

want it to use with my blackberry and griffin itrip
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Deleted my post as turns out adapters didnt work
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I'm thinking about build a cable like dockboss+. I think it is not much expensive it with a female apple 30-pin , a male microusb and a male jack (3.5mm) and quite easy to made it.

How many people are interested in something like that?
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Try the Cablelive dockBoss+
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I too am a victim of a dock without an iPhone. I got a venturer alarm clock and a 2007 Honda Accord ex with an aftermarket iPod attachment. Searching for a solution, came across this forum. So I decided to act on it. Went and found a dockboss+. The "+" is the key ingredient because not only will it plug into the docking station, but also has a micro usb to charge your smartphone as well. Got a lot of mixed reviews, mainly good. Will report again once I get it and try it. Will hopefully solve a lot of peoples anxieties.
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I can't post a link yet, but will follow up when I can. There's a fancy pin-out diagram for the apple 30-pin connector out there that has everything you need to know to modify the connector, or dock to allow any ipod/iphone work with it.

I haven't tested it out yet, but am definitely going to spend some time on this. The biggest problem I see with android phones is some of the difficulty in streaming audio over the usb connector. It may be best to skip the usb audio depending on if it's digital audio or not, and since it seems the ipod simply re-routes the analog audio through the connector.

Using the pin-outs, it seems relatively simple to wire the R/L audio from a standard 3.5mm audio jack, and the usb power +/- to the right wires on a usb mini/micro connector.

It's my guess that the adapters listed above are doing the same thing since they all use the audio jack on the android phone.

If DIY is your thing, it looks like all you need is 5 pins, Audio- both R and L (2), R+ (5),L+(6), GND(16), and USB+(23).

USB pinout is pretty simple, looking at it from the front with the pins on top, in order:

USB+ Data- Data+ Sense GND

Again, I haven't tested this out, and it is possible to severely damage your phone.
Will update when I test it out. My plan is to use an ipod female connector from a damaged ipod, attach it to a usb cable and a standard 3.5 mm audio jack.
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Here's the pin-out for the ipod connecter, as well as the voltage requirements and all that nonsense that tells the iphone, ipod, whatever that it can start charging:

Apple iPhone (1G, 3G, 3GS, 4) Dock connector pinout and wiring @ pinouts.ru
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A little more googling proved that there is a way to get the usb to act as audio R/L. You need to bridge pins 4 and 5 on the usb connector with a 365k resistor as stated here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275&page=13

You will run into some limitations of using 2 pins to sense everything, and using 1 pin for a ground for everything.
The car's quick charging feature will be gone, and you might hear a hum when not playing audio.

Also not sure how it'll work with beats audio since beats audio only works through headphones, and not the external speaker in the phone.

Again, be careful with your usb port on the phone, a few people have messed theirs up and lose all audio/data capabilities of the usb port leaving it to charge only.
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This would be very interesting to have. I would perfer to have a cable that could support both audio in/out. That way it could be used for streaming audio between my phone and a apple device.
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This may well be the answer:


30pin Female to Micro USB 5Pin Male Charge Data Adapter Cable for iPhone iPad
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Anyone found a solution to this yet? Just switched from iPhone to android(g s3) and my logitech dock is sitting there all useless now. Is there not a way to just have an adaptor on it that would enable me to dock my s3 in it? If not might have to sell the dock. Had a look at that jive cable but it's too wirey.
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Does anyone know if these work

they are from miniinthebox.com/micro-usb-male-to-apple-30-pin-female-charge-and-sync-cable-for-ipad-iphone-and-ipod_p362801.html]USD $ 3.99 - Micro USB Male to Apple 30 Pin Female Charge and Sync Cable for iPad ,iPhone and iPod, Free Shipping On All Gadgets![/url]

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Good topic as I've been recently looking into having my HTC Thunderbolt connect to some of my older devices I have with I-Pod docks. Right now based on the research I've done, I'm leaning toward a multi-product semi-wireless solution like this:

Amazon.com: Genuine Blackberry Music Gateway 2 UK - ACC-41596-002: Electronics

Amazon.com: CableJive dockBoss: Smart Audio Input Adapter for iPod and iPhone Docks: Electronics

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years ago i added an apple dock to my stock 06 acura nav system using the isimple kit. (also added the hd radio option).

but i wanted bluetooth for audio as well. so i went to ebay and found this "iskin cerulean". they sell it in a transmitter/receiver combo, but really all you need is the receiver.

my apple 30 pin is the 2nd gen (first gen powered through firewire, 2nd gen powered through usb). if you try to charge a newer ipod on an old 30 pin it will not charge, thats how you can tell if its a gen 1 or 2. i say this because i am not sure if the cerulean will work on the older gen 1 without needing to have external power cord.

the cerulean gets power stright from the dock (at least with the bose sounddock portable and my cars 30 pin dock). then you just pair and play. IT WORKS GREAT!!!

the cerulean also has a 3.5mm aux out and a mini usb for power, so you can use this with a home stereo, you just need a usb outlet to power this unit, and then you can run the aux to a stereo. the receiver comes with all the cables you could possibly need.

my issue, i changed my phones firmware and the BT for audio stopped working properly, so i wanted to use my 30 pin apple connector with the headphone jack of my phone. that product has been linked in this thread already.

this thread also links this product which is hard to find, it goes 1 step further. it converts apples 30 pin to an aux in, as well as to a micro usb - PERFECT. it also has been linked but just in case.

go to cablejive DOT com and search for the "dockBoss+". they stopped producing this, because they are in the process of making a better version of this adapter. but you can buy their overstock open box of the current version.

a similar unit is sold on amazon, but it has mixed reviews, either people love it, or it will not work at all, depending what they are using it on.
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years ago i added an apple dock to my stock 06 acura nav system using the isimple kit. (also added the hd radio option).

but i wanted bluetooth for audio as well. so i went to ebay and found this "iskin cerulean". they sell it in a transmitter/receiver combo, but really all you need is the receiver.

my apple 30 pin is the 2nd gen (first gen powered through firewire, 2nd gen powered through usb). if you try to charge a newer ipod on an old 30 pin it will not charge, thats how you can tell if its a gen 1 or 2. i say this because i am not sure if the cerulean will work on the older gen 1 without needing to have external power cord.

the cerulean gets power stright from the dock (at least with the bose sounddock portable and my cars 30 pin dock). then you just pair and play. IT WORKS GREAT!!!

the cerulean also has a 3.5mm aux out and a mini usb for power, so you can use this with a home stereo, you just need a usb outlet to power this unit, and then you can run the aux to a stereo. the receiver comes with all the cables you could possibly need.

my issue, i changed my phones firmware and the BT for audio stopped working properly, so i wanted to use my 30 pin apple connector with the headphone jack of my phone. that product has been linked in this thread already.

this thread also links this product which is hard to find, it goes 1 step further. it converts apples 30 pin to an aux in, as well as to a micro usb - PERFECT. it also has been linked but just in case.

go to cablejive DOT com and search for the "dockBoss+". they stopped producing this, because they are in the process of making a better version of this adapter. but you can buy their overstock open box of the current version.

a similar unit is sold on amazon, but it has mixed reviews, either people love it, or it will not work at all, depending what they are using it on.
So I finally got around to purchasing an iskin cerulean device. I must say it is a nice compact, yet functional device. Thanks for the recommendation. Unfortunately, I still cannot get my receiver to pass audio over the iskin from my Android device. Everything is paired correctly and I restarted all devices upon pairing. As previously mentioned, the dockBoss+ also does not pass audio. My particular receiver must have an older version of the i-dock. That's the only thing I can think of as to why it doesn't work. When I connect the iskin, eventually the receiver indicates "iPod charging". I would assume that is good and the setup should work. It isn't a total loss though as the receiver has an aux. input that I can still use the iskin with. Would just be a lot less messing around with cables and such using the i-dock. Oh well.
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just wondering, have you tried the iskin on any other devices just to double check that it does work on at least 1 dock?

if not try that, if it doesnt work on any device, you could have a bad unit.

Also, i would try another phone with it. maybe someone in your household or a friend has a different android/iphone to pair and test?

only advice i have, is to make sure you phone recognizes it as a audio bluetooth device and not just a headset, and make sure your bluetooth volume is turned up, it is separate then your speakerphone or headphone volume.

i hope you get it to work, this little thing has come in handy for me on multiple occasions.
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just wondering, have you tried the iskin on any other devices just to double check that it does work on at least 1 dock?

if not try that, if it doesnt work on any device, you could have a bad unit.

Also, i would try another phone with it. maybe someone in your household or a friend has a different android/iphone to pair and test?

only advice i have, is to make sure you phone recognizes it as a audio bluetooth device and not just a headset, and make sure your bluetooth volume is turned up, it is separate then your speakerphone or headphone volume.

i hope you get it to work, this little thing has come in handy for me on multiple occasions.
I believe I have another external i-Pod dock I got with another receiver I can test with. And funny you mention it, but I just ordered the Galaxy S4 and it should be here this week. I can try testing with that phone to see if there is any difference as compared to my current HTC Thunderbolt. Under my volume sub-menu, ring-tone volume is at 75%, media volume is 100%, and alarm volume is also 100%. Now I'm curious as to what you mentioned about the phone recognizing it as an audio device and not a headset. Because the icon next to it shows a headset. I don't think I can change that though. And it works using the analog cables with the device showing as a headset. I also have a Bluetooth remote speaker that is detected as a headset and that also works fine. Looks like I have a little more testing to do. Thanks for the suggestions.
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Well, I tried my wife's phone and no joy there. I also tried another i-Dock device I got with a newer Pioneer Elite receiver I have. This one has an i-Dock connector on one end of the cable and on the other end has both a USB A and an RCA video for connectors. I have to imagine this would be considered a newer generation i-Dock connector than what I tested on my older Yamaha receiver mentioned above. However, once paired, this receiver also says no device. I'm starting to wonder if perhaps the iskin is in fact faulty. I bought it off Amazon so returning/replacing shouldn't be a problem. Before I do that, are there any additional suggestions?
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