ok so i have a lg optimus one and a belkin 150n wifi routed,both are g compatible,not n.
so this router has some things which make it unusable.everything works on my desktop pc,but on my cellphone i get tons of problems.browsing on the basic browser is good,no problem with that,but once i get on my youtube app,it first won't load anything,it says it;s not connected,please reintry,althoough i get full signal.after i clear my cache and cookies in the default browser,and then clear the caches of youtube and market,there is a very slight chance it will fix the problem,but most of the times it wont.
In the rare times when it does work,the youtube partially works,meaning it loads the videos(the home videos,meaning recommended videos and subscription videos),but it wont load the icons,it will load just a blank square with the video name on it.if i play that video,it will eventually load,but most of the times won't load related videos and the comments.
same happens for android market too,when i search something,either it won't go trough at all(it tells me no connection,please reintry),or it will load the apps in the same way it does with youtube,just the name and no icon.if i try to download them,the download bar appears,but it won't show a percentage,it's just stuck on downloading.Also,it never loads the screenshots for the app.
when the routed has this bad habit of not working,other internet related apps don't work either.for example,google maps will not load,even if it loads,it will load the cached maps and will not allow me to zoom in on an uncached part of the map.for opera mini,when i touch "search google" and type something,after searching it says no connection.
Strangely enough,dailymotion app works anytime,even when the roiuter doesn't work.
This phenomenon happens at random,it has no clear pattern,but i managed to "guess" when it will and won't work.For example,i never plug off my router and i never turn off my cellphone.I found out that restarting my cellphone will not allow me to use any internet related app(except dailymotion and the browsers)for an extended period of time,ranging from 3 hours to 1 day.
So,at 7 am in the morning,when i get up,the youtube and marked (in general the router)works in 95% of the cases,and it works well,i get good signal in the entire house,and i don't have any complaints.Today,after i came back from school,7 hours later,i checked youtube and it worked.Went to sleep,checked it again,it didn't work.I checked it again right now,and it didn't work.
So,what can i say,these things are completly random,i can guess when it will not work most of the times,but one thing is certain,is that it works only after long hours of not using the wifi internet.So,im 100% sure it will work the next morning,or in 3 hours from now.
So,has anyone any ideea how to fix it?I still don't know if the router of the celphone is the blame,but i tested my cellphone on other routers and they worked 100% of the times,and i didnt get these stupid errors.
I suspect there is a closed port on my router's firewall,i dont know,so if you know anything,PLEASE HELP ME,this problem has been bugging me for about 5 months
You might just want to upgrade to a new router, if the router only throws out G bands then it is pretty old. You might just want to upgrade to the latest N band routers, which you can get for as cheap as 20$.
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isnt there any way to fix this one?i mean,it does show signs it works,so there MUST be a way to make it work for good
and the router is n too,i think,that's why it's called 150n
Last edited by lungustefan123; December 3rd, 2012 at 11:58 AM.
isnt there any way to fix this one?i mean,it does show signs it works,so there MUST be a way to make it work for good
So to get this straight it always works on the computer fine?
Because if not it could be a provider issue. Also have you tried other Wifi's with your device? Are those running fine on it? We need to test that to rule out a defect in your phone.
well,i just bought another smartphone,vodafone smart 2,it has exactly the same problem.also tried a wifi laptop,ran smoothly.my pc runs very well,never had a problem with it
well,i just bought another smartphone,vodafone smart 2,it has exactly the same problem.also tried a wifi laptop,ran smoothly.my pc runs very well,never had a problem with it
It could be an issue with the router with the phones, especially since it's a G band. Since this band is relatively slow, Wifi might be difficult to stay connected. This could be causing your issue.
i've seen other g routers stay connected the entire time,through 2 concrete walls and a wooden door,and still got enough signal to watch youtube.well kind of.
is there any setting to open certain ports for the youtube and market apps?or something like that?
i've seen other g routers stay connected the entire time,through 2 concrete walls and a wooden door,and still got enough signal to watch youtube.well kind of.
is there any setting to open certain ports for the youtube and market apps?or something like that?
Apps do not use specific ports...
You should just be able to connect with any device to the Wifi, are you sure the router isn't full on Local Ip addresses or that there isn't an IP conflict?
i regularly perform router restarts.if i restart the router when i get this problem,it RARELY fixes it,even if i plug it off for 5 mins and remove all the cables
I know i asked earlier but you never answered it. Have you tried using these devices while connected to a different Wifi connection. Just to see if it is the devices not the router.
Well I use browse the internet everyday from school using the router from my schhool.I get good signal through several walls,so my cellphone is not the blame.My other android smartphone is new,i bought it 4 days ago,and it works exactly like my own android smartphone.I'm 100% sure it works well on other wifi netowrks,but i havent tested it yet.
As for the laptop,yes it works on other wifi netowrks.
Well I use browse the internet everyday from school using the router from my schhool.I get good signal through several walls,so my cellphone is not the blame.My other android smartphone is new,i bought it 4 days ago,and it works exactly like my own android smartphone.I'm 100% sure it works well on other wifi netowrks,but i havent tested it yet.
As for the laptop,yes it works on other wifi netowrks.
Honestly it just sounds like a conflict between your phone and your router, i would seriously suggest in upgrading your router to just a more modern router, just because i am assuming it has something to do with how old the router is which is causing the issue.
I'm sorry to contradict you,but I strongly believe this issue can be fixed.When I first bought it,it worked,and never had these issues.Then,all of a sudden,after 3 months of using it,these issues appeared,without me doing any changes.
Also,I've seen many many many people having this problem,and I have yet to find a solution.So again,can ANYONE look into this more deeply please?
I'm sorry to contradict you,but I strongly believe this issue can be fixed.When I first bought it,it worked,and never had these issues.Then,all of a sudden,after 3 months of using it,these issues appeared,without me doing any changes.
Also,I've seen many many many people having this problem,and I have yet to find a solution.So again,can ANYONE look into this more deeply please?
Between the time of it working and not working, did you device receive any sort of update?
No,I frantically searched for updates,and found some,but when i tried to install them it told me it was incompatible,even though i downloaded the firmware updates from belkin.com for my exact router model.
No,I frantically searched for updates,and found some,but when i tried to install them it told me it was incompatible,even though i downloaded the firmware updates from belkin.com for my exact router model.
Hmm, routers shouldn't really need updates, i meant updates for your Android Device?
Do you remember anything happening specifically that you maybe changed that would of effected the way your Devices and Router communicated?
There is absolutely NO setting in the world that I have changed ever since it stopped working.I mean,all I did was type in my browser's address bar the router's gateway 192.168.2.1 and set up a PPPoE connection with username and password,and then enabled security (wpa/wpa2 with password).Ever since it stopped working,I tried restoring default factory settings on the router,and reconfigured the router in the EXACT same way as before,but nothing changed,it still wouldn't work.Also,I tried using the install wizard on the CD that came with the router,still nothing.
I've been fiddling with the settings on the router's gateway ever since it stopped,and i remember reading something on the internet about opening certain ports that android apps need in order to communicate over the internet.I don't understand what that means,here's a screenshot on my router's ports ,maybe you can figure it out
Don't know if this helps,but 30 minutes ago youtube and market weren't working.I hard reseted the router twice,inputted the settings twice.First time it didnt work,second time it worked.Strange,though i bet tomorow won't work again
What type of Internet do you have, is it dsl? You said you set it up for PPoE? So you have a username and password you have to put into the router to connect? If you don't, it should be set for DHCP, does your router connect to a modem?
The best way to troubleshoot this is, the times your Internet doesn't work on the phone, go to your phones browser and type in the ip for your router (192.168.2.1). If you can get to your router's interface, then you have a problem with your ISP most likely , if you can't get to the interface, then we know it's a local problem.
Welcome lung I suggest this with all router connection problems only cause I had the same experiance and did this and it fixed everything. Try to 30-30-30 router reset.
1) unplug your router.
2) hold down the reset button for 30 seconds.
3) while plugging the router in hold reset button down for another 30 seconds.
4) it should blink a few times letting you know it reset. Then again hold down for 30 seconds.
That should fix all your problems
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You could be sharing a channel with a neighbor and not knowing it.
When that happens, arbitration takes over to deal with traffic collisions. Some devices can do ok with lots of collisions, some can not.
If you are overlapping channels with someone here, not only will getting your router on a free channel fix this, it will improve your throughput for you other networked machines as well.
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Apps do not use specific ports...
Yeah - it's not the problem here, but some apps do use specific ports.
Early if that was the case about his neighboor taking his connection it would show up on his desktop wouldn't it? It would show the ppl connected to the network
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Early if that was the case about his neighboor taking his connection it would show up on his desktop wouldn't it? It would show the ppl connected to the network
Nope, not if it's just radio interference. Yes, if they've actually logged into your network.
Channel overlay and channel conflict (radio interference) looks like this -
In the above cases to the right, under the red, there is radio interference being arbitrated.
To make matters worse, many people don't rename their networks from their router defaults.
I once visited a buddy who was having strange issues, ran this tool and found everyone had the same network name and lots of overlap.
So - because of password protection, you don't see each other's computers on each other's networks - but you do get signal issues and dropouts and even get kicked off the net while your device tries to figure out where it really belongs.
Not guaranteeing that's what is happening here - just saying, this is the first thing I'd check.
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It could be a DNS server issue. Try having him change the DNS servers on the DHCP server page to Google's (8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 - you usually set 2.) User would need to reconnect to the router with the phone, if the DHCP lease hadn't expired yet - I think it would take an expired lease to reset that. User could try setting lease times to one hour or something to try to get the DHCP server to change that on lease renewal.
If the router has security logging turned on, try turning that off. It's possible that the Android phone is messing up some communications, creating errors, and the log files are filling or something, if logging is turned on.
One last thing: user said s/he tried setting WPA/WPA2. I've seen issues in the past with this setting - try setting WPA only, or (better) WPA2 only - see if one works. (I doubt that this is it - you would never connect at all if it was a security issue.)
It could also be a channel issue. For 802.11g, it's best to be on channel 1, 6, or 11. If it's not set to one of those, try changing it to one of those and see if that helps
One last thing - try going (on the phone) to wherever the WiFi settings are. Have user press menu and see if there is an advanced menu. If so, try changing WiFi sleep policy to "never", if there is a setting like that.
1.The distance is irrelevant.I can sit as close as 1 meter and it still wont't work
2.I have a broadband connection from RDS RCS company,in ROmania.With username and password,on PPPoE connection.When i set up my router i have to input the username and password,yes.
I connect the internet cable,the white one which supplies the internet connection,to my router,and then i get a yellow cable which connects the route and the PC together.I don't have a modem
3.When it doesnt work,I can use opera mini on my cellphone to get to the router's gateawy,so it works.
4.I wish i could find the reset button,it is burried deep in the router.I need a sharp needle to press it.
5.I'll try to change the chanells
6.I also tried the DNS thing,it didnt quite work
Please share your router's model number and version or revision level. I had a Belkin N+ router and it acted similar to yours. Although it was set to find updates automatically, I had to search for it manually. Once installed the problems went away.
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1.The distance is irrelevant.I can sit as close as 1 meter and it still wont't work
2.I have a broadband connection from RDS RCS company,in ROmania.With username and password,on PPPoE connection.When i set up my router i have to input the username and password,yes.
I connect the internet cable,the white one which supplies the internet connection,to my router,and then i get a yellow cable which connects the route and the PC together.I don't have a modem
3.When it doesnt work,I can use opera mini on my cellphone to get to the router's gateawy,so it works.
4.I wish i could find the reset button,it is burried deep in the router.I need a sharp needle to press it.
5.I'll try to change the chanells
6.I also tried the DNS thing,it didnt quite work
So your phone isn't losing connection to the router...your router is losing connection to the internet... or its possible certain apps on your phone are corrupted. Have you tried reinstalling the problem apps?
You will definitely need to do a hard reset of the router to help rule out some things... are you able to verify your phone works fine on another WiFi connection?
I'd also be curious to see what the WiFi analyzer app shows...
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So your phone isn't losing connection to the router...your router is losing connection to the internet... or its possible certain apps on your phone are corrupted. Have you tried reinstalling the problem apps?
You will definitely need to do a hard reset of the router to help rule out some things... are you able to verify your phone works fine on another WiFi connection?
I'd also be curious to see what the WiFi analyzer app shows...
You know SD I was thinking the same thing. It would rule out a few questions here
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Since you say you don't have a modem, you must have a combination modem/router. True? Did you buy it or did your ISP supply it? What's the make and model number (if you said already I missed it).
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So your phone isn't losing connection to the router...your router is losing connection to the internet... or its possible certain apps on your phone are corrupted. Have you tried reinstalling the problem apps?
You will definitely need to do a hard reset of the router to help rule out some things... are you able to verify your phone works fine on another WiFi connection?
I'd also be curious to see what the WiFi analyzer app shows...
He did say his laptop worked fine so how would the router lose connection to the internet?
I still do believe a new router would solve this issue the most efficiently.
He did say his laptop worked fine so how would the router lose connection to the internet?
I still do believe a new router would solve this issue the most efficiently.
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I agree.
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browsing on the basic browser is good,no problem with that,but once i get on my youtube app,it first won't load anything,it says it;s not connected,please reintry,althoough i get full signal.
,the youtube partially works,meaning it loads the videos(the home videos,meaning recommended videos and subscription videos),but it wont load the icons,it will load just a blank square with the video name on it.if i play that video,it will eventually load,but most of the times won't load related videos and the comments.
same happens for android market too,when i search something,either it won't go trough at all(it tells me no connection,please reintry),or it will load the apps in the same way it does with youtube,just the name and no icon.if i try to download them,the download bar appears,but it won't show a percentage,it's just stuck on downloading.Also,it never loads the screenshots for the app.
when the routed has this bad habit of not working,other internet related apps don't work either.for example,google maps will not load,even if it loads,it will load the cached maps and will not allow me to zoom in on an uncached part of the map.for opera mini,when i touch "search google" and type something,after searching it says no connection. Strangely enough,dailymotion app works anytime,even when the roiuter doesn't work.
... found out that restarting my cellphone will not allow me to use any internet related app(except dailymotion and the browsers)for an extended period of time,ranging from 3 hours to 1 day.
So,has anyone any ideea how to fix it?I still don't know if the router of the celphone is the blame,but i tested my cellphone on other routers and they worked 100% of the times,and i didnt get these stupid errors.
If his phone was losing connection to the router, he wouldn't be able to access the router's interface from the phone, which he can. So it's not like his phone is dropping the wifi connection. Being able to access the router(from the phone) but not the Internet, *usually* points to a problem with the ISP. Although he states the Internet continues to work on his PC, which points me in the direction, that the problem lies with the phone(according to the original post, only certain apps are affected, mainly google apps, YouTube, maps etc), an incorrectly configured router, or a crowded wifi channel.
Judging by the router's interface screenshot, it doesn't appear to be an older router (it is also wireless N). I'm betting a hard reset of the router will fix it. IMO a lot more info is needed before a new router should be purchased.
Last edited by sdrawkcab25; December 8th, 2012 at 01:38 PM.
One thing though,yesterday i removed the yellow cable which links the router and the PC,and it worked very well,until today,when i plugged it back in.Maybe this was causing the problem,i dont know.i have to run some more tests and see what's what
Last edited by lungustefan123; December 10th, 2012 at 12:47 PM.
When you look at the home page of the Web-Based Advanced User Interface, what is the Firmware Version and also the Hardware? For example does it show:
Firmware Version 1.00.05
Hardware F6D4230-4
This info will be on the label on the router, usually on the bottom. It can also be found in any software or browser interface you use to change the router's settings.
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