This is a list of pre-installed apps (crapware, bloatware, junk...) on the LG Optimus V (LG VM670). These apps are not part of the "standard" Android 2.2.1 software stack and were added to the phone by Virgin Mobile or LG.
In a standard, off-the-shelf phone, these applications can not be uninstalled. (In Settings>Applications>Manage Applications the "Uninstall" button is dark grey and does not respond to a finger press.) In order to uninstall these apps, you must first "root" the phone. However, these apps are (according to this post) stored in the system partition of the memory, not the user accessible memory partition, so even if you did delete these apps, that would not increase the available user accessible memory. (So, if you are getting a low memory warning, removing these apps won't help.)
Because these apps are loaded in the system partition, you can not move these apps to the SD card. irha73 points out in a reply below that if you do want to keep/use these apps and have a rooted phone, uninstalling the pre-installed apps from the system partition, then re-installing them via the Android Market will put the apps in the user partition, enabling you to move the apps to the SD card after installation.
Pre-installed apps clutter up the main applications menu and the widgets menu. Where, for example, has seven widgets that I'll never use listed in the widgets menu and I have to scroll through them every time I get near the end of that menu. If I could uninstall Where, I wouldn't have to deal with that.
__520 KB Activate (aka SSA in Settings>Applications>Manage Applications)
____4 KB airG Chat (not really an app, just a URL shortcut)
__220 KB Downloads
_____ __ My Account (not really an app, just a URL shortcut)
_1.67 MB Poynt
_1.00 MB SCVNGR
_5.93 MB Twidroyd
___28 KB Virgin Mobile Live _1.48 MB Where 10.83 MB Total
I'm not an expert and therefore could be in error on some point. If this initial post does contain factual errors, please post a reply and I'll amend the above.
Last edited by agianne; April 21st, 2011 at 01:10 PM.
Reason: various additions and corrections
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I was actually contemplating rooting my phone to delete a few of the preinstalled apps (SCVNGR and Twidroyd) that I NEVER use since my phone keeps warning me about low space even after moving everything movable to the SD card, but this thread saved me the trouble, if deleting those won't actually help the situation.
Which is GOOD I guess, I've only had the phone a month, usually like to NOT do something that might break it while it's still that new.
There is actually one benefit of removing these apps. For people who actually use these apps, they would want to obviously get updates from Market. The big issue with this is that if you update them, android insists on installing them on the internal memory, and even after using "Move2SD Enabler" as root, these updates can't be moved to SD, so removing the system apps and reinstalling what you want freshly from market will allow you to have them on SD. For those who don't use them, it still helps to remove them, because you would not see updates for them anymore on Market and you can hit "Update All".
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I have rooted my Optimus V. I would like to get rid of some of the bloatware listed above but don't no which program to use safely. I am mainly doing this so I can install the latest version of the app to my SD card. Is there a tutorial on how to do this for the Optimus V.
I have rooted my Optimus V. I would like to get rid of some of the bloatware listed above but don't no which program to use safely. I am mainly doing this so I can install the latest version of the app to my SD card. Is there a tutorial on how to do this for the Optimus V.
Get Titanium pro,you can back up and delete the bloatware,do not delete any google installed apps,then get link2SD to move the apps to he sd card,only move apps you installed,stay away from moving any system or hardware files.
Last edited by lou61166; May 18th, 2011 at 06:27 PM.
Will removing these applications increase internal memory? I have read conflicting reports. I know when I factory reset by phone I have roughly 160mb then after stock apps update it goes down to 130mb.
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Here's A dumb question, how do you increase internal memory? of course the obvious I know (all my apps are on my SD card), or I guess the better question is can you? or is that it. (I'm leaning towards this last statement) but hey does not hurt to ask Right?
No it won't. The bloat is in system/app, all your user apps are stored in data/app.
That makes me curious though I thought they were on internal. When I got my phone I checked the storage space and then I did updates and the internal space went down.
The system apps are in the own internal partition, the updates are not. The updates do go into the available internal memory.
I saw a post somewhere about uninstalling the apps and reinstalling them via the market. Correct me if I am wrong but that would allow me to move the app with link2sd and further increase internal storage?
OK, I removed "bloatware" (with link2SD), no custom ROM. Removed:
airG Chat
Poynt
SCVNGR
Twidroyd
Facebook
Virgin Mobile Live
Where
Smoke Live WP
Music Live WP
Downloads
Kickback
Soundback
Talkback
These do not appear anywhere on my phone and they do not appear in my Appbrain list. But Market still shows them online and on my phone list as installed. Is there away to delete them from my Market account? (without buying Titanium) I've deleted Market cache and data on the phone. I had them all in Quarantine for a month and decided to get rid of them.
Too much misinformation in this thread. link2sd can and does remove apps. I just did it on my Optimus V. Not only that, but removing the stock bloatware did in fact increase my internal "available space" by around 17MB (as displayed in Settings > SD Card & Phone Storage), and got rid of the low storage warning.
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Originally Posted by Legion303
Too much misinformation in this thread. link2sd can and does remove apps. I just did it on my Optimus V. Not only that, but removing the stock bloatware did in fact increase my internal "available space" by around 17MB (as displayed in Settings > SD Card & Phone Storage), and got rid of the low storage warning.
When he made that comment it couldn't. It has had three updates since then. Some apps update and that stores in you memory as well as there data so yes it can reprove some space. The development community has come along way in the last two months which is why sometimes its better to ask questions than to use old threads. Were constantly learning more about this phone.
Not only that, but removing the stock bloatware did in fact increase my internal "available space" by around 17MB (as displayed in Settings > SD Card & Phone Storage), and got rid of the low storage warning.
There have been updates to the stock bloatware. Initially removing them didn't free up any space, but now that there are updates which get installed to the user accessable internal storage it does free up space.
Once you delete it you will have to flash a new ROM in order to get it back if you were ever to need it in the future. Can't be found on the market.
I deleted it using titanium backup a long time ago when i first rooted my phone. Now im having data and signal problems and im not even getting signal at all. Help me please
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Originally Posted by benw1991
I deleted it using titanium backup a long time ago when i first rooted my phone. Now im having data and signal problems and im not even getting signal at all. Help me please
You will have to flash a new froyo rom either harmonia or bumblebee to get it back. But first put it in airplane mode for a few minutes then back and see if that helps.
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You will have to flash a new froyo rom either harmonia or bumblebee to get it back. But first put it in airplane mode for a few minutes then back and see if that helps.
Thanks for the help will try and let you know how it works out
Are you sure? I have seen the apk posted here a couple times, it is possible to reinstall it with the apk.
Is the apk even needed? I was just reading this post.
"Is the Activate app necessary, since dialing ##VIRGIN# will get you to the... whichever menu it is? (Seems like in that case, Activate is just a shortcut.) "
The Activation App is needed just in case you have data problems, and uninstalling the wrong app from the system partition can cause the ##847446# program menu to disappear. Before making any changes do a Nandroid backup first, do not try Titanium Backup to backup anything in the system partition, cause in most case it will fail.
When I first get my phone the system partition had 116 apps, I Flashed the Bumblebee ROM 3 days ago and started out with 72 apps. I have moved some apps in to the system partition, and moved the updates to the system as will. You can move apps to and from the system with any File Explorer App as longing as it has Root Access and the System Partition is set to writable.
I personally do not use ROM Manger or Titanium Backup, before I make changes I do a Nandroid Backup. Plus the Recovery that ROM Manger flashes is crap, nothing but Recovery loops.
Best way to not have the bloatware and is to Flash a New Recovery (Do not use ROM Mangers ClockworkMod Recovery, it is really bug and most likely will not flash the new ROM currectly) and do a Nondroid backup, then flash a new ROM like Bumblebee.
The Harmonia ROM and the HarmoniousBumblebee are the only two Froyo ROMs that can be flashed by both the Novatek screen Op "V's" and the Hitachi screen "V's" and both have the activate app.
The Bumblebee ROM will cause a Black screen with the Hitachi screen "V's" unless the Xionia kernel is flashed over it.
Whenever a device is rooted it is always recommended to install a custom recovery. The only two that are compatible for both screen versions is the Xionia v1.2518.6 for the Froyo based ROM's and the VM670NH recovery which will work best for all CM-7 IHO gingerbread ROM's.
It is always recommended to go to the backup option in the recovery and backup the currently installed ROM (this is called a nandroid backup) before flashing(installing) a custom ROM. It's best to do so after Rooting as you could delete something vital to the system function while having r/w permissions.
Use Titanium Backup or Fast Uninstall&Installer to backup all downloaded apps.
Never install an app that has been backed up when that very same app has been pre-installed with the ROM. Never install backed up system data. Both these things will cause the ROM to become corrupt.
Last edited by AndyOpie150; February 9th, 2012 at 09:48 AM.
The Harmonia ROM and the HarmoniousBumblebee are the only two Froyo ROMs that can be flashed by both the Novatek screen Op "V's" and the Hitachi screen "V's".
The Bumblebee ROM will cause a Black screen with the Hitachi screen "V's" unless the Xionia kernel is flashed over it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the black screen is due to the Recovery not the ROM it's self. I know that the Recovery that is listed for the ROM is out dated.
I have the older screen, and the Recovery that I use is RA-OptV-3.06 and I like it, no Recovery Loops and a nicer color making it easier to see. Do you know if that recovery works with the Hitachi screen?
The Black screen will also appear because the kernel not being compatible with the screen drivers. This is the case with all IHO ROM's developed before October and all Froyo ROM's but the Harmonia and HarmoniousBumblebee which have the Xionia kernel.
Never heard of the recovery your using, where did you find it? Link would be nice.
The only way to know is for someone to flash it that had the Hitachi screen.
Maybe you could post further questions in a thread as we are taking this one off topic.
That RA recovery is still somewhat experimental, and has had a few bad reports, though I'm not bad mouthing it, just giving a heads up to the unaware, ymmv.
I do look into enabling the activate.apk and assorted sub apks in IHO from time to time. The issue is not just with the necessary apks, but also with their associated (and required) libs. At some point, I'll do a build with just about every apk and lib from the stock OV system dump that isn't android specific that I can cram into our limited partition sizes. If I can get various stock apps we want to work (like activate), I'll then prune down till I find the relevant apk and lib combos.
I have had my OV for about a year now, and never had to use the activate apk since I purchased it, so it's not a huge priority for me tbh.
Actually:
Rodimus, Stock + Xionia and Aphrodite (except Pure) all have Xionia kernels and should work on all phones. These are the very first OV roms, we used Xionia kernels from the Optimus S because we didn't have the ability to make our own at the time. While these should be usable on all phones and have the activation app, I highly advise against it simply due to age. By the time you get the apps updated, you will have little room left.
Bumblebee has a custom kernel that only works on old. Most others use stock or similar kernels, and also only work on old.
Harmonia and Harmonious Bumblebee use a custom kernel that includes support for new screens as well as old. Both are quite up to date and include the activation app and all stock programing codes.
Oh, and don't bother trying the activate app on GB roms, it triggers a hidden menu, which those roms don't have.
As for using the app, I have had to a few times due to experiments with OS roms, apps and kernels, but also, if your data speeds have been bad for a while, sometimes it will give them a jump start. That only works for Froyo, GB roms don't usually have this issue. Older Android was known to lose provisioning.
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Thanks for the info Leslie Ann.
Not to many people asking about those ROM's but will keep the info handy in case it happens.
I have tried the Rodimus ROM and I thought it was a very good ROM, just no support anymore.
I know one of the other two ROM's people use to add the picasticks kernel to so it could be overclocked in the 800MHz range. But that was with the Novatek screen.
Will the picasticks kernel work with the Hitachi screens?
The original Picasticks kernel only supports the old screen.
The rebuilt Picasticks Kernel by BigSuperSquid works with all screens, which is exactly what is in Harmonia and Harmonious Bumblebee. It should work on most any Froyo rom to make them work on the new screens.
The later Xionia kernels will also work on both phones. 014 is the better one according to some, if I remember right. Xionia carries a lot of bloat for the OV, Zefie built it to include a bunch of options that only work on the Optimus S.
I would recommend the new Picasticks if you want to use Froyo on a new phone. If you have an old one, either Picasticks or Bumblebee kernel, but there is really only one good Froyo rom left, and that is Harmonia. Even then, I recommend the IHO roms (including Harmonia 2) for all except those needing as much battery as they can get.
List of Bloatware on the LG Optimus V
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