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Old November 15th, 2010, 01:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What ever happened to the creation of an app that replaces Tapatalk on this forum? When Tapatalk was blocked last summer, there was talk of one coming to replace it in August, but it has never appeared. Anyone know anything about this?

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Old November 15th, 2010, 01:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes, we have an app. It's currently in beta. It is being tested by staff and premium members. If you'd like to try it, please feel free to sign up. Additionally, there is no word as to when the app will be fully distributed. Take care!
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This has been discussed ad nauseum....

Moved to the Suggestion/Feedback forum.


Might I suggest reading through the following:
Can't connect to AF from Tapatalk
http://androidforums.com/suggestion-box-feedback/41162-why-arent-we-tapatalk-yet-3.html (starting at about post 117)
Tapatalk disabled on AF? (if you don't know why it was disabled).


Basically, as mentioned above, the app is currently under a CLOSED BETA for staff members and Premium members. I'm no developer and have no say on the release of the app, but it IS looking good and IS looking promising.

If having the app NOW is important to you, consider signing up for premium!
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Old November 15th, 2010, 02:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
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This has been discussed ad nauseum....

Moved to the Suggestion/Feedback forum.


Might I suggest reading through the following:
Can't connect to AF from Tapatalk
http://androidforums.com/suggestion-box-feedback/41162-why-arent-we-tapatalk-yet-3.html (starting at about post 117)
Tapatalk disabled on AF? (if you don't know why it was disabled).


Basically, as mentioned above, the app is currently under a CLOSED BETA for staff members and Premium members. I'm no developer and have no say on the release of the app, but it IS looking good and IS looking promising.

If having the app NOW is important to you, consider signing up for premium!
Believe it or not I'm not an idiot. I DID search the forums and read looking for an answer. I have been part of some of those discussions as well, but as far as I could tell nothing had been said as to WHEN it would be released. I had gathered that it was being tested by some and figured that if it was available to some, it would be the premium members.

I realize this has been questioned and angrily questioned in the past. I still believe AF is hosing many by closing Tapatalk. I am willing to accept the hosing because this is a strong community. What I'm not willing to accept is a measure of civility for asking a question. Lighten up Francis, not everyone that asks a question is stirring up a storm. I was asking an honest question of whether or not this app is scheduled to see the light of day anytime soon or not. Apparently, no one knows. I'd say we'll see it when we see Swype opened up from Beta. Never.
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The site owner wants the new app out there as soon as possible, but also as bug free as possible and with as little or no security flaws as possible.

That takes time and patience on the part of all concerned.
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We are getting hosed cause we cant use tapatalk?

Imo tapatalk sucks

i would much rather use the mobile skin available here to all members for free.
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Thanks for the respectful response. I can accept that, I was just wondering if I'd missed it somewhere or if there was a date coming. Like I said, when Tapatalk was disabled, it was widely broadcast that before the end of August it would be out. It's November. I'm sure you can see where I'd have thought it was out and I missed it.
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We are getting hosed cause we cant use tapatalk?

Imo tapatalk sucks

i would much rather use the mobile skin available here to all members for free.
Yeah you're getting hosed, when the ONLY reason why you paid for Tapatalk is to use it here and 2 days after I buy it, it is closed for security reasons. Then the reasons were patched by Tapatalk "allegedly" but it's still closed because a greater app is coming down the pipeline in August. Fine, I just wanted to know if I missed it.
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hosed in that sense, well, i guess....i tried tapatalk before i bought it and it just wasn't for me, its clunky compared to the mobile skin AF offers.
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We know that a lot of people think that AF removed tapatalk to be mean and others are still under the impression that the reasoning behind it was in some ways nefarious or evil. We've even had Nazi comparisons thrown our way for some reason because of it. The conspiracy theories abound on the subject and may be rivaling the JFK assassination, Roswell alien landing and the lunar mission in popularity these days. The truth has and always been the same since the first day it was posted on the forum.

Will tapatalk return to AF? Probably not ever.
Are we evil? Most of us aren't
Is there a Phandroid app in the works? Yes.
Will the app be released for free to everyone that wants it? Yep.
Will the app be released if it has bugs, design flaws, FCs, huge loading times, is battery draining, unroots your phone, converts you to Buddhism, forces you to take pictures out of focus, changes you Facebook status to deceased, sms bombs your mother, sends love emails to your boss or auto downloads every fart app to your phone? Probably......wait......No....I mean no.


Seriously, the app is in testing and everyone involved wants it to work as well as humanly possible from day one.
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Believe it or not I'm not an idiot. I DID search the forums and read looking for an answer. I have been part of some of those discussions as well, but as far as I could tell nothing had been said as to WHEN it would be released. I had gathered that it was being tested by some and figured that if it was available to some, it would be the premium members.

I realize this has been questioned and angrily questioned in the past. I still believe AF is hosing many by closing Tapatalk. I am willing to accept the hosing because this is a strong community. What I'm not willing to accept is a measure of civility for asking a question. Lighten up Francis, not everyone that asks a question is stirring up a storm. I was asking an honest question of whether or not this app is scheduled to see the light of day anytime soon or not. Apparently, no one knows. I'd say we'll see it when we see Swype opened up from Beta. Never.
Never said or implied that you were.

Oh, I completely understand. As Frisco mentioned, until it's done, no one knows (except for maybe the owner/dev of the app).
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I'd say we'll see it when we see Swype opened up from Beta. Never.
Wasn't Swype made to be only available to OEMs? That's a whole different story. The site owner (Rob) really wants a quality product to be released as soon as possible.

Just wanted to add that the application really is being worked on: we see new versions pop up frequently. The public beta was started about a month ago and there have been 5 versions that I know of.
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Q: What gives? when will we get the long awaited much anticipated phandroid app? please release it NOW!!! Also, please tell me it will have alerts?

A: Premium AF Members have had access to a private beta of the application for about a month and a public beta SHOULD go live in the next week or two. It’ll feature a boat load of new features including alerts, full forum support, chat and a lot more. I’m convinced you’ll love it and we’ll continually be working on new features such as “recommended apps” based on your personal profile. Stay tuned… I promise it’s almost ready!!!


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so we were talking about this on a thread i started and they locked it and i think why have so many apps to talk on forums tapatalk is one app for so many threads just dont see why the owner cant just allow it its not like he is held for anythign if he puts a disclaimer i rather have 1 app for x amount of forums instead of two apps one for one forum and another for x amount saying that they have a app for ppl who pay for their membership can get a beta just wish ppl could discalimer stuff and let it be but really this forum had died out alot were over at xda is booming so why not just boycott this site till they get it we controll this site as memebers not the owners
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I'm not sure what you mean by adding a disclaimer - how would that help?
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Old November 26th, 2010, 01:49 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I'm not sure what you mean by adding a disclaimer - how would that help?
as in if they stopped using tapatalk cause of a security break or what not state that they will be open tog o back but they are not reliable for anything if you info get taken or what not but i if you going to stop using something that helps ppl post on your thread which we make this all happen with out us this forum wouldnt be long gone and your goign to take away a option that everyone loved then he need to get a reason why he did it
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Having a disclaimer wouldn't be very useful. Disclaimers let people wash their hands of other people's problems, but if people's login details were stolen it would create a massive headache for everybody on the site (including the admins).

That's kind of irrelevant now however, since whilst security is the reason it was pulled, it's not the reason why it wasn't brought back. (See Phases' post here for a full explanation).
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see to me i dont care if my stuff is stolen its to a spam e mail anyways with nothing that links me to me lol try to find my info i have a degree in lan managment so i am a ghost to spammers and what not it would be the ppl choice to choice to use tapatalk with the intent of knowing stuff could be stolen but it is what it is lol

i just know most of these tread either come from xda or link you to go to xda which is the forums of all forums its where everythign starts and dev at
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How do Premium members access the beta and download the software?
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Android community-Team Forums-Staff and Premium Access... thread title says something about Beta app. Rob has a link in the first post.
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just dont see why the owner cant just allow it its not like he is held for anythign if he puts a disclaimer
It's HIS site, HIS money, HIS reputation and HIS security at stake, so he is entitled to do what he wishes.

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so we were talking about this on a thread i started and they locked it and i think why have so many apps to talk on forums tapatalk is one app for so many threads just dont see why the owner cant just allow it its not like he is held for anythign if he puts a disclaimer i rather have 1 app for x amount of forums instead of two apps one for one forum and another for x amount saying that they have a app for ppl who pay for their membership can get a beta just wish ppl could discalimer stuff and let it be but really this forum had died out alot were over at xda is booming so why not just boycott this site till they get it we controll this site as memebers not the owners
is that english?

this forum is dieing?

really?
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Any news on this???? Why not enable Tapatalk in the mean time and switch to the app once its available, its annoying to have to check it on a small screen not so Mobile Friendly site.... PLEASE RELEASE!
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Any news on this???? Why not enable Tapatalk in the mean time and switch to the app once its available, its annoying to have to check it on a small screen not so Mobile Friendly site.... PLEASE RELEASE!
A beta version of the app is already in the market, just search 'Phandroid'

See this post for more details.
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Any news on this???? Why not enable Tapatalk in the mean time and switch to the app once its available, its annoying to have to check it on a small screen not so Mobile Friendly site.... PLEASE RELEASE!

A security risk / issue was realised on the tappatalk app. Peoples accounts were being misused somehow I believe. It was better in the gap to have no app rather than an unsecure app.

The phandroid app we have now is pretty good.
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If we want to use tapatalk we should have the option. If people don't want to use it they don't have to. It is really annoying having this be my only forum without support for tapatalk. I visit much less often because of it. I don't want to have a separate app for every forum. I would gladly risk whatever minimal securiity risk is supposedly present as it doesn't seem to be an issue on any other forum I visit. There is minimal effort required in enabling it.
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The discovered security risk is to the site more than to an individual member; it was important enough to warrant quite a hassle and creation of an app.

Never say never on the return of Tapatalk here, but the need for it seems much less now that Phandroid App is with us.
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I would gladly risk whatever minimal securiity risk is supposedly present as it doesn't seem to be an issue on any other forum I visit. There is minimal effort required in enabling it.
I mean this as nicely and sincerely a possible.

You and I are users of the forum and we both use it for pleasure. If a regular user's account gets compromised, the effect falls on only the one user. If my account were to be compromised, every user's account and identity is compromised.

The ADMIN of this site is very active here. If his account was compromised..., I'd imagine that the forums would be down for ALL of us for quite some time.

The OWNER of the site pays the bills. I'm sure he owns the site in hopes of making money. If his account was compromised it could be a disaster for him personally and financially. Additionally, the forums could essentially cease to exist.


The admin and owner were both the target of the attacks as result of the security flaw (see risk assessment above).

Sure, it's possible that nothing could have happened. It's possible that something could have happened too. Like most people who lock their cars and houses, they felt the need to lock the risk that tapatalk presented at the time.

Since then, they have created their own app (that I'm sure cost them a bit of money to create and develop) that is FREE and of NO CHARGE to view the forums AND post on the forums. The app is also ad-free. The phandroid app is available for free on the market if you chose to download it.

While I personally have no monetary interest or benefit from the removal or installment of tapatalk, I think that the owner made the decision that he deemed best for the forum as a whole.
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If we want to use tapatalk we should have the option. If people don't want to use it they don't have to. It is really annoying having this be my only forum without support for tapatalk. I visit much less often because of it. I don't want to have a separate app for every forum. I would gladly risk whatever minimal securiity risk is supposedly present as it doesn't seem to be an issue on any other forum I visit. There is minimal effort required in enabling it.
Another thing you're not realizing is that it is not just a matter of blocking access to the forums in Tapatalk. You have to understand that there is forum modification required to make Tapatalk work with the forums.

For more info, please see Tapatalk - Forum App on the iPhone, Android, Nokia, and BlackBerry for vBulletin, phpBB, IPBoard, and SMF

It is from this modification that the security risk was exposed. In order to lock down the security risk, the integration of the plugin had to be removed. And without integration, Tapatalk cannot access the forums.

I hope this makes it more clear as to why it's not just a matter of "If we want to use tapatalk we should have the option."
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So is there an update to the status of an app or what?
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So is there an update to the status of an app or what?

It's been available on the market for a while. Search for "phandroid"
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Old October 13th, 2011, 12:37 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Can we get Tapatalk support? I don't see why the most popular app isn't supported here... who needs another forum app installed on their phone? If every forum did that what a mess!
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Old October 25th, 2011, 08:18 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Can we get Tapatalk support? I don't see why the most popular app isn't supported here... who needs another forum app installed on their phone? If every forum did that what a mess!
Go back up to post #3 and click on the links. The answers to your questions are there.
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Wow great news about Tapatalk support glad phandroid finally came to their senses :-)
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