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Old June 13th, 2010, 02:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Panel says candidate Paul not board certified

Posted: Jun 13, 2010 1:50 PM Sunday, June 13, 2010 1:50 PM EST Updated: Jun 13, 2010 1:55 PM Sunday, June 13, 2010 1:55 PM EST
LOUISVILLE, KY (AP) - The national panel that approves doctors as board certified said U.S. Senate candidate Rand Paul isn't on the list, even though he's campaigned as holding the endorsement.


The Louisville Courier-Journal reports that the American Board of Medical Specialities, which works with the American Medical Association, doesn't recognize certification by a group Paul founded in 1991 and heads.


Paul, a Republican from Bowling Green and an ophthalmologist, says he's certified by the National Board of Ophthalmology. But, Lori Boukas, a spokeswoman for the American Board of Medical Specialities, said the organization considers certifications valid only if they are done by the two dozen groups that have its approval and that of the AMA.


Boukas said the group doesn't consider Paul board certified.


Paul, who faces Democrat Jack Conway in the November general election, declined to address the issue to the paper. Paul's campaign did not immediately return a phone message from The Associated Press on Sunday.




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Old June 21st, 2010, 06:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Clearing it up..

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I took the American Board of Ophthalmology (the largest governing body in ophthalmology) boards in 1995, passed them on my first attempt (as well as three times during residency), and was therefore board-certified under this organization for a decade.

In 1997, I, along with 200 other young ophthalmologists formed the National Board of Ophthalmology to protest the American Board of Ophthalmology's decision to grandfather in the older ophthalmologists and not require them to recertify.


I thought this was hypocritical and unjust for the older ophthalmologists to exempt themselves from the recertification exam.

In forming NBO, the younger ophthalmologists agreed to require recertification for all ophthalmologists.

In my protest to the American Board, I asked, “If the ABO thinks that qualify of care would be improved by board testing every decade, shouldn’t this apply to all doctors, not just those of a certain age? In fact, many of us argue that the older ophthalmologists need recertification even more since they are more distant from their training.

Is it fair that the ophthalmologist down the street can claim board certification, without renewing it, but that a younger ophthalmologist, who passed the same boards, is disallowed?

This is the kind of hypocritical power play that I despise and have always fought against. It reminds me of congress passing health care legislation but exempting themselves from their own laws. I protested to the ABO, as did many other younger doctors. This is when I came up with the idea of creating a competitor to the ABO, and formed a new organization, the National Board of Ophthalmology. Keep in mind that neither of these groups have anything to do with medical licensure, which is handled by the state boards.

ABO claims it is illegal to call for recertification of all ophthalmologists. This is untrue. ABO is a private group and create any rules they wish. (even discriminatory policies based on age) Having all its members recertify is not illegal just impractical because the older ophthalmologists will vote against it.

ABO argues that the older ophthalmologists were given "lifetime certification." This is also untrue. The certificates of the older ophthalmologist do not refer or explicity grant "lifetime" certification.

ABO argues that they are the legitamate organization because they are recognized by the American Board of Medical Specialties (ABMS). They fail to explain that ABO helped found ABMS and gets to vote on who is approved by ABMS. One can imagine why ABMS and ABO would not want to approve a competitor.
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Paul is not certified by the board that certifies his specialty. He formed his own board and certified...himself.
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He's certified by the state, which is all that matters.

Hey hakr100, you're not certified by my special club to be on the internet, therefore you aren't on the internet with the rest of us.

Seriously, nobody cares about the spin and lies you peddle.
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If liberals had talk radio, hakr would be their first radio host.
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You boys have me all wrong. I'm in favor of the GOP having as many extremist nutcases in its ranks as it can fit...bring on the Rand Pauls, the Michelle Bachmanns, the Sarah Palins, the Glenn Becks, the Rush Limbaughs, and let them extol the virtues of the oil companies, the health insurance companies, wall street, and of exempting the private sector from civil rights regulations, et cetera. Let's get rid of the minimum wage, OSHA, worker safety regulations, food inspections, the FAA, everything that interferes with the abilities of our masters to make a buck!
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apparantly hakr missed the part where rand paul passed all the boards for ABO and was certified under it, only after disagreeing with the policies enacted that were prejudical and favorable for the opthamologists that were grand-fathered in did he form his own board.

its funny that once again someone posts relevent data showing the full scope of the story and not just some spin and his posts prove that if its not something he wants to read he just bypasses it, only thing different about this time is there was no animated gif yawn thrown in.

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The point was and remains that Paul is NOT CERTIFIED by the specialty board that certifies doctors with his specialty. Instead, he certified himself, and he claims to be a board-certified specialist. It's a deception on his part.

If you want to dispute the hard fact, go for it. You're entitled to believe Paul's rationale. I don't.
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The point was and remains that Paul is NOT CERTIFIED by the specialty board that certifies doctors with his specialty. Instead, he certified himself, and he claims to be a board-certified specialist. It's a deception on his part.

If you want to dispute the hard fact, go for it. You're entitled to believe Paul's rationale. I don't.
He's already state certified.. and he left the ABO (which he was certified under) due to their corrupt practices.

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I have a different view of Mr. Paul's certification activities. My wife is board-certified, and by the board people expect...not by a board she and her buddies created because they didn't like the rules of the established, national board.
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I wouldn't like the board your wife is in, because they grandfather in the 90 year old senile people who don't know what the **** they're doing and don't have to requal test.
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