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Old August 31st, 2011, 02:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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"Since June 2009, nearly 40% of the net new jobs in America have been created in Texas, and those jobs are being created in a climate that actually encourages such growth. While it is true that Texas also created jobs in previous decades, so did the nation. But since I became Texas governor in December 2000, Texas has added more than 1 million net new jobs while the rest of the nation has lost nearly 2.5 million jobs."

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A federal judge on Tuesday blocked key provisions of Texas' new law requiring a doctor to perform a sonogram before an abortion, ruling the measure violates the free speech rights of both doctors and patients.

U.S. District Judge Sam Sparks upheld the requirement that sonograms be performed, but struck down the provisions requiring doctors to describe the images to their patients and requiring women to hear the descriptions.

The law made exceptions for women who were willing to sign statements saying they were pregnant as a result of rape or incest or that their fetus had an irreversible abnormality. Sparks questioned whether the Republican-controlled Texas Legislature was trying to "permanently brand" women who are victims of sexual assault.

The law -- one of dozens of anti-abortion measures that advanced through state capitals across the United States this year -- takes effect Thursday. The New York-based Center for Reproductive Rights had sued to block it.

Supporters argued the law ensures women fully understand what an abortion entails and said some women have regretted having abortions. They said the law would lead to fewer abortions in Texas. About 81,000 abortions are performed every year in Texas.

Opponents argued that requiring doctors to describe a fetus' features would force them to say things against their will and would violate medical ethics requiring doctors to respect a patient's autonomy and act in the patient's best interest.

The Texas Medical Association opposed the law because it dictated when a doctor must perform a procedure and how the doctor must deal with a patient. While a pre-abortion ultrasound is routine, it is not considered medically necessary.

Sparks wrote that forcing doctors to discuss the results with a patient who may not want to listen "compels physicians to advance an ideological agenda with which they may not agree, regardless of any medical necessity and irrespective of whether the pregnant women wish to listen."

Sparks was particularly troubled by the requirement that victims of sexual assault or incest sign statements attesting to that fact to get around the provision. That would require women to disclose "extremely personal, medically irrelevant facts" that will be "memorialized in records that are, at best, semi-private," Sparks wrote.

"(It) is difficult to avoid the troubling conclusion the Texas Legislature either wants to permanently brand women who choose to get abortions, or views these certifications as potential evidence to be used against physicians and women," Sparks wrote.

Sparks also struck down several enforcement penalties for doctors who faced losing their medical license and possible criminal misdemeanor prosecution if they did not comply.

The ruling is a "huge victory for women in Texas and a clear signal to the state Legislature that it went too far when it passed this law," said Nancy Northup, president and CEO of the Center for Reproductive Rights.

The group said it had already received notice the state plans to appeal.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry, a Republican who is running for president, was critical of Tuesday's ruling. Perry had made the law one of his top priorities for the 2011 legislative session.

"Every life lost to abortion is a tragedy and today's ruling is a great disappointment to all Texans who stand in defense of life," Perry said in a statement.

State Sen. Dan Patrick, R-Houston, a key sponsor of the measure, said he was confident the law would be upheld on appeal.

"It is clear to me, from the inflammatory language in the order, that Judge Sparks was predisposed to this decision," Patrick said.

Sparks represented doctors and hospitals as an attorney for about 30 years before being appointed a federal judge in 1991.

A similar Oklahoma measure, passed in 2010, has been put on hold there pending legal challenges.
I thought Republicans want LESS government?
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I thought Republicans want LESS government?
We/they do. We can't help it if one of our own decides to go against a key conservative republican tenant. Some republicans are fools and a few are RINOs. We can't help that. All we can do is find those Regan conservatives and vote for them.

I really hate when a republican acts the fool and all republicans are considered the same by the liberal press. We are not the same and I will certainly admit that there are some silly republicans out there.

Conservatives believe in individual liberty, conservatives believe in limited government, conservatives believe in original intent and conservative judges, conservatives believe that the bill of rights limits government, not the people; conservatives believe that the constitution can be altered, but only by amendment, conservatives believe in the right to own property, conservatives believe that no man is free if he is restricted from owning and possessing property, conservatives believe in equality, conservatives believe in limited, fair taxation, conservatives believe that the federal government expansion into socialized benefits is prohibited by the 10th amendment and that it has undermined the 5th amendment to the constitution.
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Wasn't Texas one of the states one of the states least affected by the property/lending bubble due to high property taxes?
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Conservatives believe in individual liberty, conservatives believe in limited government, conservatives believe in original intent and conservative judges, conservatives believe that the bill of rights limits government, not the people; conservatives believe that the constitution can be altered, but only by amendment, conservatives believe in the right to own property, conservatives believe that no man is free if he is restricted from owning and possessing property, conservatives believe in equality, conservatives believe in limited, fair taxation, conservatives believe that the federal government expansion into socialized benefits is prohibited by the 10th amendment and that it has undermined the 5th amendment to the constitution.
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I must apologize to the mods. I replied to some blather about how republicans want this or that when the topic posted by the lovely Bob wanted to discuss Texan and their job creation record.

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Yup, you can read it there but I pulled it from my notes for a speech I was to give at the SLC Public Library. The list came from Rush, I believe. I also saw it in a Heritage Foundation publication.

Still, this is what we believe.

I am likely not a true Republican because I do think abortion is not always evil.

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Wasn't Texas one of the states one of the states least affected by the property/lending bubble due to high property taxes?
Not sure. I must give credit to Texas because they are making it work. I find it astounding that one state is responsible for so many jobs compared to the rest of the country.

I will not move there because I do not like the heat.

Perhaps other states will take a look at Texas and work some of the same magic

Way to Go, Texas.
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So Joe . . . as a proud Texan, can you tell us how Texas did what they did and why it seems to work? I must admit, I do not know your Govenor. He seems on top of things, though.
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I must apologize to the mods. I replied to some blather about how republicans want this or that when the topic posted by the lovely Bob wanted to discuss Texan and their job creation record.
Your thread title was "Way to go Texas."

I'm pointing out that Texas did some stupid things, continuing the Texas discussion.
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Your thread title was "Way to go Texas."

I'm pointing out that Texas did some stupid things, continuing the Texas discussion.

That was the title, indeed it was. And it was to congradulate Texas for job creation, the subject of the thread. I am sure Texas did some stupid things, but not part of the thread. Job creation was.
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So Joe . . . as a proud Texan, can you tell us how Texas did what they did and why it seems to work? I must admit, I do not know your Govenor. He seems on top of things, though.
Tax breaks for companies to come in and open up shop. Low cost of living, no state income tax and affordable housing. California is taxing the hell out of businesses combined with high housing cost, people are leaving that state and coming to Texas. I've had two families move in to my neighborhood from cali this summer. Sure we may lack in some areas but it's finding a job is easier.
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That was the title, indeed it was. And it was to congradulate Texas for job creation, the subject of the thread. I am sure Texas did some stupid things, but not part of the thread. Job creation was.
The quote in the first post is from Rick Perry. Is this about him as much as Texas in general (topic title). It's fine either way, but I keep hoping for a good thread in here about announced Presidential candidates in particular.
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Tax breaks for companies to come in and open up shop. Low cost of living, no state income tax and affordable housing. California is taxing the hell out of businesses combined with high housing cost, people are leaving that state and coming to Texas. I've had two families move in to my neighborhood from cali this summer. Sure we may lack in some areas but it's finding a job is easier.
My guess is as Texas prospers, other states will try to follow. I read a link to why Texas should perhaps be given less credit than the headlines suggest, but apparently, you are growing and creating jobs at a much higher national average. Good for you.

I would move there if the climate were more to my linking.
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I don't see him getting to the general election. When it comes down to it, he just sounds, thinks and acts too much like the last Texas president, and the middle of the country - the one that actually decides elections - isn't going there again anytime soon IMO.

As far as job growth in Texas, he has some problems there, too: A) Those numbers are on the decline; B) A lot of the jobs created were public sector/government jobs that were supported by the $17+ billion in stimulus money he took (after deciding not to secede); C) The vast majority of the rest of those jobs were low-paying, low-skill jobs (to support a population boom - like retail clerks).

It's good campaign rhetoric, but when the time comes for him to prove it, he's going to have a problem. By then, the budget cuts are going to have kicked in and jobs will have been lost in the public sector. Like that USA Today article linked above talks about, this is Michael Dukakis, 1988 all over again. This time with the added issue of that 'Texas swagger' that makes a lot of people uneasy still.
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I don't see him getting to the general election. When it comes down to it, he just sounds, thinks and acts too much like the last Texas president, and the middle of the country - the one that actually decides elections - isn't going there again anytime soon IMO.

As far as job growth in Texas, he has some problems there, too: A) Those numbers are on the decline; B) A lot of the jobs created were public sector/government jobs that were supported by the $17+ billion in stimulus money he took (after deciding not to secede); C) The vast majority of the rest of those jobs were low-paying, low-skill jobs (to support a population boom - like retail clerks).

It's good campaign rhetoric, but when the time comes for him to prove it, he's going to have a problem. By then, the budget cuts are going to have kicked in and jobs will have been lost in the public sector. Like that USA Today article linked above talks about, this is Michael Dukakis, 1988 all over again. This time with the added issue of that 'Texas swagger' that makes a lot of people uneasy still.
Thank you! Someone actually looked at the article link that I put up. lol
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"Since June 2009, nearly 40% of the net new jobs in America have been created in Texas, and those jobs are being created in a climate that actually encourages such growth. While it is true that Texas also created jobs in previous decades, so did the nation. But since I became Texas governor in December 2000, Texas has added more than 1 million net new jobs while the rest of the nation has lost nearly 2.5 million jobs."

Rick Perry: Job creators pick Texas ? USATODAY.com

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"Also, Texas was spared the worst of the housing crisis, partly because it turns out to have surprisingly strict regulation of mortgage lending."

"By the way, one in four Texans lacks health insurance, the highest proportion in the nation, thanks largely to the state’s small-government approach."

"At the same time, the rapid growth in the Texas work force keeps wages low — nearly 10 percent of hourly Texan workers earn the minimum wage or less, well above the national average — and these low wages give corporations an incentive to move production to the Lone Star State."

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/the-texas-unmiracle.html?_r=1
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You know, the worst part is, texas still has an unemployment rate of 8.4% will up there with the nation average. If they managed to add 1 million low paying, no coverage, part time work, congratulations. They took their unemployment from 1 well above 10% to 8 percent by forcing people to work at minimum wage.

Because to be honest, out of the 1 million jobs that perry is boasting about, 269,000 are non seasonal jobs.

Which means that the 731,000 jobs that are seasonal will go away soon.

If you remove those jobs, you will see that texas as grown about the same as the rest of the country.

Regional and State Employment and Unemployment Summary

Notice seasonally adjusted numbers.


If you really want me to go after perry I can, but trust me, he will look not very bright.
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You know, the worst part is, texas still has an unemployment rate of 8.4% will up there with the nation average. If they managed to add 1 million low paying, no coverage, part time work, congratulations. They took their unemployment from 1 well above 10% to 8 percent by forcing people to work at minimum wage.

Because to be honest, out of the 1 million jobs that perry is boasting about, 269,000 are non seasonal jobs.

Which means that the 731,000 jobs that are seasonal will go away soon.

If you remove those jobs, you will see that texas as grown about the same as the rest of the country.


Regional and State Employment and Unemployment Summary

Notice seasonally adjusted numbers.


If you really want me to go after perry I can, but trust me, he will look not very bright.
Edit, I have to edit what I said above. Sorry, did not read the article.

Perry is qouted in saying that he added 1 million jobs IN 10 YEARS. I thought he said he added 1 million jobs in since june 2009.
Looking at the real number, we have lost only 1.4 million jobs since 2009. But considering that clinton add 22 million jobs in 8 years, but bush only added 1 million in 8 years, perry is still changing the facts.
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What kind of assistance would they want for the latest catastrophes? Drought and now another round of fires. If congress is having a tough time dealing with Irene's aftermath which affects more people, then what will this disaster do to Texas?

NASA cutting back won't help either.

BTW - southern CO is included in that drought.
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I don't see him getting to the general election. When it comes down to it, he just sounds, thinks and acts too much like the last Texas president, and the middle of the country - the one that actually decides elections - isn't going there again anytime soon IMO.

As far as job growth in Texas, he has some problems there, too: A) Those numbers are on the decline; B) A lot of the jobs created were public sector/government jobs that were supported by the $17+ billion in stimulus money he took (after deciding not to secede); C) The vast majority of the rest of those jobs were low-paying, low-skill jobs (to support a population boom - like retail clerks).

It's good campaign rhetoric, but when the time comes for him to prove it, he's going to have a problem. By then, the budget cuts are going to have kicked in and jobs will have been lost in the public sector. Like that USA Today article linked above talks about, this is Michael Dukakis, 1988 all over again. This time with the added issue of that 'Texas swagger' that makes a lot of people uneasy still.
We don't want the facts . We just want the hype LOL
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Not sure. I must give credit to Texas because they are making it work. I find it astounding that one state is responsible for so many jobs compared to the rest of the country.

I will not move there because I do not like the heat.

Perhaps other states will take a look at Texas and work some of the same magic
Well after a quick Google I found they apparently Texas has one of the highest property taxes in the USA (could be as much as 5% of value apparently)
Such high taxes would quell any property bubble, and thus would lead to less job losses in a bust.
Its just reasonable that it would have a decent net job creation rate.
Proves the importance of a high property tax I'd say!
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Well after a quick Google I found they apparently Texas has one of the highest property taxes in the USA (could be as much as 5% of value apparently)
Such high taxes would quell any property bubble, and thus would lead to less job losses in a bust.
Its just reasonable that it would have a decent net job creation rate.
Proves the importance of a high property tax I'd say!
Here in Texas you can only borrow up to 80% of your home's value unlike many other states where people's homes were treated as personal ATM machines during the bubble. Texas also has less restrictive land use policies which helps keep building costs lower than states with more restrictive land use policies. These are the two main reasons I've seen cited for Texas avoiding the housing bubble.

As far as the criticisms of Texas' performance here's a link to an article that digs a little deeper than the usual drive-by analysis:
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Here in Texas you can only borrow up to 80% of your home's value unlike many other states where people's homes were treated as personal ATM machines during the bubble. Texas also has less restrictive land use policies which helps keep building costs lower than states with more restrictive land use policies. These are the two main reasons I've seen cited for Texas avoiding the housing bubble.

As far as the criticisms of Texas' performance here's a link to an article that digs a little deeper than the usual drive-by analysis:
Rick Perry And Texas Job Numbers Political Math
Thats very sensible regarding the borrow limit! How would less restrictive land zoning stop a bubble though?
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Thats very sensible regarding the borrow limit! How would less restrictive land zoning stop a bubble though?
The lower house prices that result from less restrictive land use policies made Texas less attractive to speculators. On the other hand the artificial scarcity created by more restrictive land use policies in other states helped drive up prices which in turn encouraged rampant speculation.
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Now if we can all just do a rain dance... Texas will be perfect!
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Now if we can all just do a rain dance... Texas will be perfect!
Texas is burning to the ground. You can thank Perry which cut the fire fighting budget by 75%. Which means that people and equipment that is needed to protect you against the fire, has been cut by Perry. He also voted to cut the forestry by 34 million dollars.

But that is ok, because Perry is now crawling to Washington and Obama, begging him to bail texas out of this mess. Of course, he is not willing to say that spending cuts as to be part of the deal. He just wants the money to bail out his failed policies. Could someone close to Perry please inform him that if he becomes president, there is no one that can step in and bail you out once you defiled civil protective infrastructure.

I could hammer on Perry all week, but to be honest, it is way to easy. He makes Bush look like a positive genus.
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Doesn't Perry want a Federal ban on Gay Marriage and Abortion? Whatever happened to state rights etc...?
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If Perry or Palin are anywhere near the GOP ticket, expect a landslide victory for Obama. You betcha...
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Either way, the presidential elections look really depressing...
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+1.

I keep trying to temper my worries, about the coming elections, with some kind of "it can't get any worse" thinking. I did that over the last two elections. That's a long time for things to steadily decline on so many levels.
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I don't think it would be that way, if BOTH parties stopped looking to the fringes for their candidates.It is honestly the wild swings from right to left, and back again, that is causing the most damage to our country.
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I think the property taxes here in texas are extremely fair as it seems that few millioaires are dodging it by living in trailer homes...
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My guess is as Texas prospers, other states will try to follow. I read a link to why Texas should perhaps be given less credit than the headlines suggest, but apparently, you are growing and creating jobs at a much higher national average. Good for you.

I would move there if the climate were more to my linking.
Not trying to be obstinate just for the sake of arguing..

but, I feel inclined to ask "what kind of jobs." I do realize we are quickly reaching a point where any job you can get is a blessing..

On the other hand..no one wants to go to college 4 years to flip burgers or anything..

Heck even those that don't go to college or finish it want better jobs than slave labor..
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Not trying to be obstinate just for the sake of arguing..

but, I feel inclined to ask "what kind of jobs." I do realize we are quickly reaching a point where any job you can get is a blessing..

On the other hand..no one wants to go to college 4 years to flip burgers or anything..

Heck even those that don't go to college or finish it want better jobs than slave labor..
I do not follow Texas and their job situation. I do wonder about prospective employees, however. Here in Utah, many jobs go unfilled because many that apply are completely unqualified.

I'll go out on a limb and suggest that in this economy, employers are looking for qualified people because they cannot afford to waste tine and money training from scratch. I remember when we would train people to setup, troubleshoot and operate surface mount equipment. It took time and effort to do the training.

I know of several local manufacturers looking for machine operators, but they prospective employees must have previous experience. In one case, there is a few jobs for people that can troubleshoot PCBs at the component level and the only applicants this company is getting are those with soldering skills and no electronics experience.

Perhaps another problem is poor attitude, a desire to be highly paid from the beginning, a high school diploma, and some past experience in the field they want to work in. It is tough for some people and easy for others.

As for Texas, it is a great place to work and live. If I were not as lazy as I am, I would find a few boxes, pack my crap, buy a Stetson, and head for Texas.
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I do not follow Texas and their job situation. I do wonder about prospective employees, however. Here in Utah, many jobs go unfilled because many that apply are completely unqualified.

I'll go out on a limb and suggest that in this economy, employers are looking for qualified people because they cannot afford to waste tine and money training from scratch. I remember when we would train people to setup, troubleshoot and operate surface mount equipment. It took time and effort to do the training.
See.. I think this is where part of the problem now comes in.

It isn't so much the "economy" as more bad business practices (or at least I believe this even if I can't factually back it up)

I worked at lowes.. and they had insane turn over rates.. They couldn't afford to give a .25$ raise to my girlfriend who had been there a year which is what they promised her at hiring.. a minimum .25$ raise every year.

But, they could afford to train a bunch of new people for 8$ an hour over the course of 2 days most of which would quit in 6 months.

They had no desire to make employees happy, no desire to do anything other than make money.. And while I am not stupid.. I understand all businesses want to make money..

It really doesn't pay to completely not care about your employees.. who in turn won't care about their job.. Being more likely to quit.. which means more work for HR, more training new employees more lost profit because your having to constantly replace people..

A perfect example.. You don't pay your cell phone carrier to make money you pay them for cell phone service..

So.. On one hand I think training employees is wonderful.. They get new skills.. and if you treat them right you may earn some loyalty.

On the flipside.. if you don't treat them right.. it equates directly to lost money and wasted time..

I just think a lot of businesses only look at the negatives these days..
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Perhaps another problem is poor attitude, a desire to be highly paid from the beginning, a high school diploma, and some past experience in the field they want to work in. It is tough for some people and easy for others.

As for Texas, it is a great place to work and live. If I were not as lazy as I am, I would find a few boxes, pack my crap, buy a Stetson, and head for Texas.
I think it goes both ways honestly..

I think people walk in wanting "financial security" which is a big expectation for anyone these days.

I understand companies want to find skilled employees.. but, I think if the company itself isn't doing anything to help out employees then it is really shooting itself in the foot.

There is a great opportunity to create loyal employees and form mutually beneficial relationships when it comes to training.

Sadly most of the negatives come out in those kind of situations I think.
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I live in Texas and the statistic is pretty much a sham. While lower cost of living is more attractive for companies to move here and hire, it's mostly because then they can offer lower wages. It's like we're the last stop before an outsource to India. To give you an idea I was contacted by a few companies this past year (what I get for not deleting my profile in Careerbuilder). One company wanted me to work shift work (open to all hours of the day across all shifts). They didn't offer a shift differential and were paying $10 an hour for helpdesk support. I politely told the recruiter that I couldn't afford to pay my bills and maintain that job. The next recruiter that contacted me was offering a little more, $12.00 per hour, and the requirements were only a Bachelor's degree in Computer Science AND you had to speak fluent Japanese. I'm not sure what the recruiters for this position were thinking, if you had to take out a loan to pay for a 4 year degree, how do they figure a $25,000 a year salary is going to allow you to pay your housing, transportation, AND any student loans.


As bad as we rank in Texas in Education and Healthcare, I'm not sure celebrating that we have created more jobs (many of them low paying jobs) is anything to applaud.

Under Perry, Texas leads in job growth, though many are low-wage | Perry Watch - News for Dallas, Texas - The Dallas Morning News

And another reason we've created jobs in Texas is due to all the drilling of natural gas and oil, which with the loosened regulations, we're seeing an increase in earthquakes in areas that have NEVER seen earthquakes in the past, and we're seeing people near those drilling areas experiencing....well here this does a better job of explaining.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrnnQ17SH_A


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Close. I think Perry has a tenth of a point or so on Junior.


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Way to go... Texas?...
I'd love to see him go against Obama... what an idiot
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Texas does it right, if for profit foreign firms want your private property for their private gain, then have their bought and paid for ALEC politicians declare your property eminent domain, it's the five time convicted criminals outside the state Koch Industries way of crony capitalism.

So Texas, vote ALEX prostitutes (yes I'm defaming prostitutes when I associate them with ALEX) back in office. Here's a list. Texas ALEC Politicians - SourceWatch

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"TransCanada began construction of that portion of the pipeline this summer after receiving the necessary permits. Some Texas landowners, joined by activists from outside the state, have tried through various protests to stop or slow down construction."
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