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Old February 25th, 2010, 04:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Lobby Group Says Open Source Threatens Capitalism.

Has anyone else seen this on Mashable?

Lobby Group Says Open Source Threatens Capitalism

"Lobby Group Says Open Source Threatens Capitalism

The Guardian reports that the International Intellectual Property Alliance, a lobby group broadly representing the RIAA, MPAA and others, has requested that the U.S. government put countries including Indonesia, Brazil, and India on the “Special 301 watchlist.” Special 301 is a report that concerns the “adequacy and effectiveness of intellectual property rights” around the globe. Being put on the associated watchlist effectively puts those countries on a shortlist of governments considered “enemies of capitalism” who aren’t doing enough to protect intellectual property abroad.

The reason the IIPA is so concerned about the aforementioned countries? They apparently have the audacity to either use or advocate the use of open source software either in government departments or in state-owned businesses. The lobby group has asked the U.S. Trade Representative to accord countries like Indonesia Special 301 status because they feel that encouraging the use of open source threatens the software industry and devalues intellectual property rights..."

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Open source software rocks the very foundation of capitalism. They can't monopolize it and make tons of money while dumbing down the technology, i.e. Microsoft.

The biggest myth of our current form of capitalism is that it is an open source process. The people involved really want to control us and everything we do so they can keep us begging for more technology while they feed it to us in exchange for money like techno-junkies.

They will usually tolerate open source just long enough for us to create something they can sell.

Open source is kind of a revolution against the status quo. I am sure someday the rich people like Bill Gates will outlaw the use of open source software and we will all be jailed like the other criminals, i.e. marijuana smokers.
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That is basically what is happening with Indonesia if this goes through. There was a lot of political pressure placed on the Indonesians to get pirated software cleaned out of the malls, street markets and Internet cafes. There are a lot of people that can't afford to purchase Microsoft products at market prices, other's can't make a profit. In either case, many people went open source to get legal. Now they are to be criminalized for not purchasing Microsoft's products.
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That is basically what is happening with Indonesia if this goes through. There was a lot of political pressure placed on the Indonesians to get pirated software cleaned out of the malls, street markets and Internet cafes. There are a lot of people that can't afford to purchase Microsoft products at market prices, other's can't make a profit. In either case, many people went open source to get legal. Now they are to be criminalized for not purchasing Microsoft's products.
People need to wake up about the truth behind American capitalism. It is basically, indentured servitude for the masses.
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There are plenty of people making money off open source software, they just need to change their business model to adapt. ANDROID, for instance.
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There are plenty of people making money off open source software, they just need to change their business model to adapt. ANDROID, for instance.
You sir express something that I hold very strong feelings about.

I personally believe in economic darwinism. Evolve for die.

If video games *ever* support open source operating systems Microsoft is going to be in a heap of trouble.

I personally don't believe that open source software threatens capitolism, I believe capitolist have gotten lazy!

People don't want to work anymore, nor do they want to be innovative. Rather than trying to find ways to make money off of open source software, modify their business structure and work more efficiently, Companies prefer to have legal monopolies.

Rather than try to sell the best product companies would prefer to use legal means to minimize competition. Sometimes I do believe legal action is justified, Other times I don't.

Capitolism is founded on innovation and putting forth effort to be the best.

If businessmen and entrapenuers have forgotten this most basic fact. They deserve to fail!

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This just goes to show how things are in life. If you think about it, Open source is the very essence of capitolism. It is something that can change, adapt and cater extremely effectively to its market. There are millions of new business possibilites which could *save* money and cost of production. Its ironic those saying that open source is "communistic" are the ones trying to not have any competition in the market!
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You sir express something that I hold very strong feelings about.

I personally believe in economic darwinism. Evolve for die.

If video games *ever* support open source operating systems Microsoft is going to be in a heap of trouble.

I personally don't believe that open source software threatens capitolism, I believe capitolist have gotten lazy!

People don't want to work anymore, nor do they want to be innovative. Rather than trying to find ways to make money off of open source software, modify their business structure and work more efficiently, Companies prefer to have legal monopolies.

Rather than try to sell the best product companies would prefer to use legal means to minimize competition. Sometimes I do believe legal action is justified, Other times I don't.

Capitolism is founded on innovation and putting forth effort to be the best.

If businessmen and entrapenuers have forgotten this most basic fact. They deserve to fail!
I agree with you except for the fact that capitalism is no longer practiced in the US by the upper 50% of corporate enterprise. They now practice cronyism and use their vast resources to buy their way to monopolies. MS now has free anti-virus, will it be free once they run every other anti-virus company out of business.

It should be against the law to give away a product that will be the demise of an American industry. They all complained when the Japanese were loosing money on their cars in order to get a position in our auto market.
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To be honest, I don't care who is willing to take a loss to give me a product. I personally think the greatest threat to the market is legal monopolies.

Although you raise a good point. Its not capitolism being practiced anymore, although many companies would *love* for us to believe that it is capitolism being threatened.

Using the law to put down competition is perhaps one of the most disgusting acts a company can do.

I personally think the problem with the market is a reluctance of consumers to stand up and think for themselves.

Take for example teh car situation.. If the japanese are willing to lose money to make it into american markets.. I believe they deserve to be rewarded. They are doing what it takes to be successful.

Plus i hate the subject of "foriegn" vs "import" cars because, I'm an import guy. I loovvveee porsche style, I want a nissan 370z and I own a toyota atm. Some of my friends actually critisize me for not having an american car.. However, they also stop listening or arguing when I point out that their cars are made in other countries as well and are at best designed in america. But, that is a long argument by itself...
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Open source software rocks the very foundation of capitalism. They can't monopolize it and make tons of money while dumbing down the technology, i.e. Microsoft.

The biggest myth of our current form of capitalism is that it is an open source process. The people involved really want to control us and everything we do so they can keep us begging for more technology while they feed it to us in exchange for money like techno-junkies.

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Open source is kind of a revolution against the status quo. I am sure someday the rich people like Bill Gates will outlaw the use of open source software and we will all be jailed like the other criminals, i.e. marijuana smokers.
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You sir express something that I hold very strong feelings about.

I personally believe in economic darwinism. Evolve for die.

If video games *ever* support open source operating systems Microsoft is going to be in a heap of trouble.

I personally don't believe that open source software threatens capitolism, I believe capitolist have gotten lazy!

People don't want to work anymore, nor do they want to be innovative. Rather than trying to find ways to make money off of open source software, modify their business structure and work more efficiently, Companies prefer to have legal monopolies.

Rather than try to sell the best product companies would prefer to use legal means to minimize competition. Sometimes I do believe legal action is justified, Other times I don't.

Capitolism is founded on innovation and putting forth effort to be the best.

If businessmen and entrapenuers have forgotten this most basic fact. They deserve to fail!

*EDIT*

This just goes to show how things are in life. If you think about it, Open source is the very essence of capitolism. It is something that can change, adapt and cater extremely effectively to its market. There are millions of new business possibilites which could *save* money and cost of production. Its ironic those saying that open source is "communistic" are the ones trying to not have any competition in the market!
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