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Old November 7th, 2012, 08:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I don't usually post in politics and I'm not going to go into my political preference BUT..

While voting yesterday, an old woman was struggling with the electronic voting process. A poll worker attempted to assist her. You could here the frustration in her voice when she blurts out "I just want to vote for president! I want that mouly gone!"!!!! Suddenly, I wanted what looked like a sweet old grandma to drop dead on the spot. One of the poll workers, a relatively young black woman who with no uncertainty heard the comment loud and clear showed incredible restraint. We have such a long road to travel still.....

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I agree...... intolerance is intolerable

intolerance of her opinion....... an opinion she has every right to have..... thats just plain discriminatory
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Haha, wow, that is hilarious. People are crazy.
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I'm guessing Mouly is some kind of slur for black people? I've never heard it before.
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Since President Obama took office a White backlash has emerged with a vengeance. It has spawned a radical right-wing political movement, the Tea Party, and unleashed whatever muzzle that may have covered the mouths of those steeped in racial hatred. Indeed the president and his family have been called ugly names and threatened often without apology, with those who have hurled insults claiming the “word police” are abridging their right to free expression.
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Since President Obama took office a White backlash has emerged with a vengeance. It has spawned a radical right-wing political movement, the Tea Party, and unleashed whatever muzzle that may have covered the mouths of those steeped in racial hatred. Indeed the president and his family have been called ugly names and threatened often without apology, with those who have hurled insults claiming the “word police” are abridging their right to free expression.

I wouldn't call it racial hatred. Not really. Slurs are kind of just thrown around nowadays. Get mad at the cashier at Walmart and call him a (insert slur here).

It was pretty rude and stupid. I don't think she was actually a racist. (just imo :-))
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He was just throwing bullets around, that doesn't make him a killer. People do that these days.

See how that works?

IMHO, it was a blatant racist remark which means granny's a racist. Doesn't mean her cookies taste bad, but it might mean she'd bake a batch for the clan.
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I don't usually post in politics and I'm not going to go into my political preference BUT..

While voting yesterday, an old woman was struggling with the electronic voting process. A poll worker attempted to assist her. You could here the frustration in her voice when she blurts out "I just want to vote for president! I want that mouly gone!"!!!! Suddenly, I wanted what looked like a sweet old grandma to drop dead on the spot. One of the poll workers, a relatively young black woman who with no uncertainty heard the comment loud and clear showed incredible restraint. We have such a long road to travel still.....
coined by many as a blatantly racist title........ is she the only racist we're talking about here?
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He was just throwing bullets around, that doesn't make him a killer. People do that these days.

See how that works?

IMHO, it was a blatant racist remark which means granny's a racist. Doesn't mean her cookies taste bad, but it might mean she'd bake a batch for the clan.

Words and bullets are not the same. Blurting something out in the heat of the moment doesn't mean anything, except that you've got a potty mouth.


Ill admit, i used my potty mouth with my friends. Neither of us actually hated each other even though we used certain words against each other. I'm not saying i was right to use those words (although they're just words) but that didn't make me hateful.
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Words and bullets are not the same. Blurting something out in the heat of the moment doesn't mean anything, except that you've got a potty mouth.
Tell that to the overweight teenage girl who was tormented into becoming bulimic. Or the gay kid who hung himself because of the words flung at him.

Words carry immense power. They can heal or they can kill.
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Tell that to the overweight teenage girl who was tormented into becoming bulimic. Or the gay kid who hung himself because of the words flung at him.

Words carry immense power. They can heal or they can kill.

I did say blurting it out, not stopping by with a bunch of people to pick on one person. These examples being given are not what granny did. She didn't get her homies from the retirement home and start picking on a fat kid. She blurted out a slur in the heat of the moment.
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I did say blurting it out, not stopping by with a bunch of people to pick on one person. These examples being given are not what granny did. She didn't get her homies from the retirement home and start picking on a fat kid. She blurted out a slur in the heat of the moment.
1. Despite the serious nature of the subject, that made me laugh. Now I keep seeing little old ladies with their canes and walkers puttin' the smack down on some poor unsuspecting soul who thought they were going to get cookies!

2. It's my belief that the things we say in the heat of the moment are often the most sure indicator of ones true beliefs. Once said, words cannot be unsaid.

There are marked difference in messing around with your buddies and true racist or hate speech. We've all done the former. Heck, if you expect to survive in my family, you better learn to hold your own shortly after you learn to talk.

The latter is I different matter entirely. Whether spoken in the heat of the moment, or written in an op ed, it's mean. Plain and simple. While the language she used, and the manner in which she used it doesn't break any laws, that doesn't make it ok. Nor does the fact that because of the age and the times in which she grew up, she probably sees nothing wrong with using those words. I applaud the African American poll worker for keeping her composure under the circumstances.
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1. Despite the serious nature of the subject, that made me laugh. Now I keep seeing little old ladies with their canes and walkers puttin' the smack down on some poor unsuspecting soul who thought they were going to get cookies!

2. It's my belief that the things we say in the heat of the moment are often the most sure indicator of ones true beliefs. Once said, words cannot be unsaid.

There are marked difference in messing around with your buddies and true racist or hate speech. We've all done the former. Heck, if you expect to survive in my family, you better learn to hold your own shortly after you learn to talk.

The latter is I different matter entirely. Whether spoken in the heat of the moment, or written in an op ed, it's mean. Plain and simple. While the language she used, and the manner in which she used it doesn't break any laws, that doesn't make it ok. Nor does the fact that because of the age and the times in which she grew up, she probably sees nothing wrong with using those words. I applaud the African American poll worker for keeping her composure under the circumstances.

1. LMAO

2. (After thinking about it, i guess ive never really blurted out a slur in anger...)
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Since President Obama took office a White backlash has emerged with a vengeance. It has spawned a radical right-wing political movement, the Tea Party, and unleashed whatever muzzle that may have covered the mouths of those steeped in racial hatred. Indeed the president and his family have been called ugly names and threatened often without apology, with those who have hurled insults claiming the “word police” are abridging their right to free expression.
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I think Mr dangerous is refering to the multiple racist and downright e-mails sent out by Republican and Tea party leaders. Google is your friend. A quick search turned up quite a list. Here are a few:

Richard Cebull- Montana federal judge sent an email inferring Obama was the product of his mom having relations with a dog.

Marilyn Davenport - Tea Party activist/ OC county GOP official sent an email depicting Obama family as monkeys.

Judson Phillips - Tea Party Nation implying Obama was gay.

Pennsylvania Tea Party - sent a long email that concluded with a "joke" about the founding fathers beating Obama to death.

Sam Brownback - R. Kansas speaker of the house called Michelle "Mrs. YoMama" and compared a pic of her to the grinch.

Walt Baker- CEO from Tennessee compared Michelle to Tarzan's chimp Cheetah.

And let's not forget the never ending stream of birthers. Donald Trump topping the list claiming that Obama isn't a natural born citizen. Trying to delegitimize him at every turn. Our country may have elected an African American as president, but we are a long way from racial equality. In some ways, I think his election has stirred up dormant racial hatreds. Some "good old boys" can't stand that some "damn uppity black man" is the leader of the free world. Doesn't he know he should be shinning our shoes?
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Doesn't he know he should be shinning our shoes?
odd that you would quote Bill Clinton in your defense of democrats and portrayal that all republicans are racists

you did forget to quote all the other democratic racism as well.... perhaps the many times Joe Biden (you know our vice president) making racist remarks about blacks

or Hilary Clinton (our Sec of State)

lets not forget Harry Reid's (Senate majority leader) famous comments about how obama could be an electable black man because he was "light skinned" and "no negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one"

or for that matter Obama himself whos made several racists remarks against whites

we could go on and on and on...... there are countless racist remarks on the democrat side that could be quoted.... difference is instead of some nameless blogger making the remarks...... they come from the democrats elected leaders..... you promote racism then blame others for following your lead
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I always find it interesting though that Obama is portrayed as black. He is half white. Surely there should be parity in reporting?
'America reelects first black President' should be followed with 'America reelects 44th white President'
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coined by many as a blatantly racist title........ is she the only racist we're talking about here?
What title is supposed to be used? Black is the best description I can think of and is the only one that I don't find insensitive.
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What title is supposed to be used? Black is the best description I can think of and is the only one that I don't find insensitive.

oh absolutely not..... according to the PC crowd black is a racist term...... they should be referred to as african-american...... which personally I would think would be considered more offensive

since they are not from africa....... and associating them with africa connotates some 3rd world trash image.... not to mention references the slave trading days more than most "racist" terms

they should actually be referred to as 'high melanin americans'

or even better how about just "AMERICANS"

but in the end what YOU dont find insensitive is obviously the most important right?
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Whatever. I actually know many black people, and they have no problem with that term. Funny how the conservative is the one trying to be ridiculously PC here.
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or even better how about just "AMERICANS"

but in the end what YOU dont find insensitive is obviously the most important right?
I find African-American to be very offensive because it takes away from my actual heritage. If I am African-American then every white person should be labeled as European-American even if your ancestors came from the Asian continent. If you need to refer to somebody's color (as the OP) then do so by the color of their skin not by a "PC term" that many find offensive. The color of the woman's skin was 100% relative to the story so it should have been used. To simply say that an AMERICAN, as you put it, heard the comment then the gravity of the story/moment was lost. Also why would you assume she was just AMERICAN? Maybe she holds dual citizenship. In which case simply calling her AMERICAN could be offensive.
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My grandfather came here from China. Do I refer to myself as Asian? Technically not accurate as I was born here in the US. Is Asian American an accurate term for me? I have dark, black hair and slanted eyes. American is a technically accurate term for me as I was born here. It would be a technically accurate term for anyone who is voting as citizenship is a requirement. Oddly enough, I don't find Asian to be offensive at all. I don't find American offensive either. Asian American is somewhat offensive to me though I'm not entirely sure why. Perhaps because it lumps all Asians under one umbrella and acts like we're all the same. We're not. Japanese are very different from Chinese from Filipinos from Vietnamese. If you really want to offend me refer to me as some Asian nationality other than Chinese.
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Probably because you identify yourself as an American first.
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Probably because you identify yourself as an American first.
Possibly. I've honestly never given the question a lot of thought. If the case, then African American would be offensive I would think. I can't imagine someone identifying themselves first with a continent they weren't born in and have never been to.
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odd that you would quote Bill Clinton in your defense of democrats and portrayal that all republicans are racists

you did forget to quote all the other democratic racism as well.... perhaps the many times Joe Biden (you know our vice president) making racist remarks about blacks

or Hilary Clinton (our Sec of State)

lets not forget Harry Reid's (Senate majority leader) famous comments about how obama could be an electable black man because he was "light skinned" and "no negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one"

or for that matter Obama himself whos made several racists remarks against whites

we could go on and on and on...... there are countless racist remarks on the democrat side that could be quoted.... difference is instead of some nameless blogger making the remarks...... they come from the democrats elected leaders..... you promote racism then blame others for following your lead
Not my intention to to chanel Bill, but I'll take it. He was a good president who,with a bit of help from Bush 41's tax increase, left us in a much better place than 43.

I was actually thinking about a scene I witnessed in an airport a while back. While walking in the concourse I passed a shoe shine station. Sitting in the chair with a small smile on his face, getting a sparkling shine put on his shoes, was an elderly African American man. The guy shining his shoes was white. It struck me, how such a small act could speak volumes.

You must not have Googled the Republican remarks. There have been, and continue to be downright hateful remarks and images thrown the President's way by elected officials. While some dems have made questionable remarks, not one has been loaded with the vitriol and bile of the ones I referenced. That doesn't make them right, but I wouldn't put them in the same class.
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yes youre right........ the ones you referrenced were clearly insulting........ while the ones the democrats have made are clearly racist

but high melanin americans and democrats cant be racists so that makes it ok

that race card has been played so much the color has worn out (pun intended)

was listening to a radio broadcast earlier....... couldnt help but laugh

they were discussing the petitions to secede

a high melanin american guy calls in complaining its only because theyre all racists....... that could be the only possible reason people could be upset with obama

he even went so far as to say the only reason people disagree with obamas policies is because hes a high melanin american

if you differ in opinion in any way shape or form its simply because of racism

get over it...... race bait elsewhere
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Not sure why you think stating fact is race baiting

On election night you had the folks on Fox News bemoaning the changing face of America. Complaining about the fact that "traditional America" is gone. They continually throw out terms like "welfare queen" to incite their primarily caucasian base. Again, these are facts. I'm a nerd at heart and read the exit polls from about 30 states..... So far. It's unfortunate that we as a nation still stoop to this type of behavior.

I'm not excusing any one from it, Republican or Democratic. If you hear it or see it around you and don't stand up against it, you're just as guilty as the guy who said it. I had to berate my 90 year old grandma the other day for complaining about the "half Chinese" on her news show.
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again with the race baiting......

"traditional america"? thats racist??

"welfare queen"? thats racist??

of course you realize that traditional america harkens to over 200 years of democracy vs the perceived socialist path many believe we are on

of course to disagree with a high melanin americans policy must mean racism

and you do realize that the majority of those on welfare happen to be low melanin americans??

so speaking of welfare speaks to the fact that rather than create jobs this administration would rather create dependants

but of course to disagree with a high melanin americans policy must mean racism

thats the problem with the true racists in america........ they cry racism and play the race card anytime someone disagrees with them

the sooner high melanin americans stop feeling sorry for themselves and join society the happier they will be...... until then there will always be racism in America..... coming from the race baiters
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They're called code words. Sorry, but everyone is onto your codes now. The "southern strategy" doesn't work anymore.
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yes all whiteys speak in code..... its a grand conspiracy to bring back the whips

as I said...... if you have an opinion different than a high melanin american it has to be racism

half of america must be racists because they dont like obama...... its only because hes black.... has nothing at all to do with his policies

no race baiting there at all
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I never said that, but we all know what Rush and company mean by "welfare queens". To say there is NO racism behind the rabid opposition to Obama is as dumb as saying EVERYONE who doesn't like Obama is a racist. I don't think that, and surely you can acknowledge there is a racial edge there to some of the criticism from certain elements of the right.

(I am a "Whitey" by the way lol)
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only a fool would claim that racism doesnt exist at all....... and likewise only a fool would claim that some prominent people havent made racist comments

however..... theres fools on both sides....... and only a fool would claim that the race card and race baiting isnt just as prolific

as I said earlier...... some of the most racist comments about obama have come from people like Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, Harry Reid, and the list goes on....... so to bash a few select Republicans who have made remarks and then claim its all about racism is silly

and even sillier is to take totally unrelated remarks and try to fashion them into racism

people are allowed to disagree with obama on the basis that they hate his policies....... they dont have to be racists

just like the petitions for secession.... because people dont want to be part of a collapsing nation....Im sure some of the signatures ARE from racist people..... but Im sure many signatures were most assuredly from high melanin americans...... but maybe theyre just 'uncle toms'
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again with the race baiting......

"traditional america"? thats racist??

"welfare queen"? thats racist??

of course you realize that traditional america harkens to over 200 years of democracy vs the perceived socialist path many believe we are on

of course to disagree with a high melanin americans policy must mean racism

and you do realize that the majority of those on welfare happen to be low melanin americans??

so speaking of welfare speaks to the fact that rather than create jobs this administration would rather create dependants

but of course to disagree with a high melanin americans policy must mean racism

thats the problem with the true racists in america........ they cry racism and play the race card anytime someone disagrees with them

the sooner high melanin americans stop feeling sorry for themselves and join society the happier they will be...... until then there will always be racism in America..... coming from the race baiters
Wow. So much is wrong with what you just wrote I'm not sure where to begin.

As a "low melanin American" I find your attitude disturbing.

I'm perfectly aware of the fact that the majority of "government handouts" go to white Americans in red states. (I read exit polls remember? Or did you just skip part?) But if you listen to the right wing media and elected officials, as I'm sure you do, you'll have heard those terms thrown into rants about the non-whites who are ruining this great country. Welfare queen was a term coined by the Republican party during the Reagan years used to refer to the intercity "high melanin" people on welfare.

While reading those pesky exit polls,the ones full of cold hard irrefutable facts, I was struck by which groups the President won, and which he lost. You know the only group he had a problem with? White evangelical Christians. Specifically , old white male evangelical Christians. Tell me truthfully that has nothing to do with race.




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I never said that, but we all know what Rush and company mean by "welfare queens". To say there is NO racism behind the rabid opposition to Obama is as dumb as saying EVERYONEwho doesn't like Obama is a racist. I don't think that, and surely you can acknowledge there is a racial edge there to some of the criticism from certain elements of the right.

(I am a "Whitey" by the way lol)
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As Gmash said, I'm certain there are a lot of Republicans who voted for Romney on policy. Unfortunately, the far right wing has taken over the party, and they are louder. Again, looking at the exit polls gives a pretty clear picture of who voted where and why. I encourage you to take a look for yourself.
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and 93% of high melanin americans voted for Obama.......... all racists right......... its because hes 'black'
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and 93% of high melanin americans voted for Obama.......... all racists right......... its because hes 'black'
So what do you call them when two whites are running and Blacks vote for one of them???

And why does white folks always want to label other people???
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just like the petitions for secession.... because people dont want to be part of a collapsing nation....Im sure some of the signatures ARE from racist people..... but Im sure many signatures were most assuredly from high melanin americans...... but maybe theyre just 'uncle toms'
Nope not uncle toms or aunt jemima, this came up during the 1960s, you're probably too young to know about it and i'm sure history has distorted it since.

Blacks wanted to secede from the USA and create their own Nation within the USA.

So stop your race baiting or is it race hating???
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Wow. White evangelical Christians. Specifically , old white male evangelical Christians. Tell me truthfully that has nothing to do with race.
well it certainly couldnt have anything to do with moral issues........ such as gay marriage or abortion..... evangelicals never pay attention to those issues........ they are just out to be racists

race bait much?
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Asian American is somewhat offensive to me though I'm not entirely sure why. Perhaps because it lumps all Asians under one umbrella and acts like we're all the same. We're not. Japanese are very different from Chinese from Filipinos from Vietnamese. If you really want to offend me refer to me as some Asian nationality other than Chinese.
Majority of Black Americans doesn't know what part of Africa their ancestors are from. Majority of other Americans do know!
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Read this Washington Post article and tell me it's not about race.
http://m.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-republican-convention-emphasizes-diversity-racial-incidents-intrude/2012/08/29/b9023a52-f1ec-11e1-892d-bc92fee603a7_story.html

Lindsay Grahm clearly says they don't have enough angry white men to win the demographics race. The article goes on to list a number of other clearly racially motivated remarks.

It also points out the failings of the Democrats, which is why I think it's a good read. You can't make important decisions by listening to only one voice.

Yes, evangelicals are overly concerned with social issues, and you could hypothesize that's the reason Romney won their vote. Unfortunately, this theory begins to fall apart when you look at the results for other religious groups.

Obama won the Catholic vote, and if the Holy See's new campaign to fight LGBT marriage equality is anything to go by, the Catholic leadership is as anti-gay as the worst of them. They also hate birth control with a passion.

Obama also won the Jewish vote and the vote of people claiming to be Christian that declined to mention a particular sect. While Romney did win the Mormon vote, he actually got less support among his own religious group than Bush did.

Look, I'm not saying all Republicans are racists. Far from it in fact. It's just unfortunate that the extremists within the party have painted the party as a whole in that light with a very broad brush. They have forced the leadership into this awkward dance of denouncing these comments at the mic, while tweeting their support for them under the pulpit. I have some very good friends who are life long Republicans that voted Obama this year because they couldn't stand the hate being spewed by their party.

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Tell that to the overweight teenage girl who was tormented into becoming bulimic. Or the gay kid who hung himself because of the words flung at him.

Words carry immense power. They can heal or they can kill.
Hence the saying "The pen is mightier than the sword".
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Wow! how did I miss this thread? or...maybe that's a good thing
I'm from a long line of Republican's and proud of it!! My ancestery is all over the map including little bits of Europe, Africa, Spain etc etc...(although genes are gonna do what they are gonna do..(tall blonde) I'm usually thrown in the caucasion- European pool... but technically I am a "mutt"
an American... isn't that what all Americans are really?? Isn't that the philosophy of what this country was founded on? why do we have to put labels on everything and everyone? this one time..at band camp.. I actually checked off every single box on a nationality race question...
and yes I know.. America was basically stolen and plundered from Native American's
but I don't have anymore time to stand here on my soap box!!
perhaps.. another time
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When will you all just grow up and stop calling each other names like children?
I'm a matrure student at a new University in Luton UK. the touw has a very mixed population (English, Polish, Pakistani, Irish and that's just the main nationalities) The Uni has students from 110 or so countries and we all get along just fine. Maybe it's because we're all there for the same reason and don't have time for worrying about imaginary diffrences.
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I'm a matrure student at a new University in Luton UK. the touw has a very mixed population (English, Polish, Pakistani, Irish and that's just the main nationalities) The Uni has students from 110 or so countries and we all get along just fine. Maybe it's because we're all there for the same reason and don't have time for worrying about imaginary diffrences.
There isnt the kind of income differences or history of racial discrimination in the UK though. That said, from what I here, the US is oft a better place to be of a non-European ethnicity than Europe itself, which is pretty shameful. Nationalist parties get 10-20% of the vote across Europe, a terrible thing really.
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I'm from a long line of Republican's and proud of it!!
Why are you proud of voting without thought? Being a long term voter of a party that is quite changed from earlier incarnations, and being proud of that, is interesting.
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I do not vote without thought..I take that right and responsibility very seriously..
nor do I listen to the rhetoric and misguided misinformed opinions of the flavor of the day profilers and ignorant people who just follow along cluelessly like sheep and have no clue but
continually bash the republican party without bothering to understand its fundamental philosophy of government .

and .. I am and always will be...proud to be a republican
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continually bash the republican party without bothering to understand its fundamental philosophy of government .
Tell me its philosophy then. I genuinely find that US parties have no philosophy as they are not coherent parties. They are hodge-podges of interest groups.

Unfortunately the Republicans manage to be both economically and socially illiterate, far more so than even the Democratic Party.
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The majority in America is turning Hispanic. That includes Mexican, Puerto Rican, Dominican. That's what's scaring a few people. The culture is not that of New England Puritan or Southern Gentleman.

I can remember a lot of New England Puritan turning their noses up at some of the Italian festivals. The whole neighborhood would have booths, food, fireworks, and a statue of whatever Saint the festival honored. The "gentry" felt it was uncouth, noisy, in some cases blasphemous. The Hispanic culture also has its own ways of celebrating, and that is seen as much the same.

When Kennedy first ran for president, the was a lot of concern about the Pope in the White House. The majority of the Hispanics are Catholic, and their faith might be forced on Evangelical Christians.

Now we have a Mixed Race president. Some of the "good old boys" are outraged. Plus his full name doesn't help. I say, too damn bad.

With the name calling - slang was popular before the 50s. While no one really liked some of the names, it wasn't the federal case it is now. My father used the N word to refer to blacks, but in his case it was more common usage from his youth. (He had to quit school in the third grade to work so he grew up the the late teens early twenties) I'd see him sitting with a bunch of blacks his age just gassing away and enjoying themselves. Just old men enjoying the sun and reminiscing. I think that some of the recipients of the terms could tell whether it was ignorance or malice. Especially the older generation.

We had some pretty inventive terms for Germans, Japanese, and Italians during that time.

There are only PACS behind the politics. Both sides.

I tend to vote for the least likely horse's rear in the bunch. I'd love it if you could vote for Pres. and Vice-Pres. separately.

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k ...well... my original point was..... not all Republican's are rich crotchety with feelings of entitlement protestant anti religion anti human dignity and respect grumpy old white men....i for one am pretty much opposite of that stereotype...
actually...a lot of us are smart young (ishhhhhh ) hey time and age are relative...!!!
anyway.. educated.. philanthropical.. empathetic and truly concerned about our fellow americans... as human beings... and the welfare and progress and evolution of this country are really what matters,,


not profiling and name calling and blah blah blaghhh...


plus Im super hot so.............
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