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Old January 21st, 2013, 11:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Will Mr. Obama be the last Black President

Some think he will, at least not in the older crowd lifetime. I think so too! Maybe in another 50 years or so.

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It all depends on the candidates, not just their race. I wouldn't be surprised if the next black president is a republican. They know they need to grow their tent somehow. They'll probably be running a lot of Latino candidates as well.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 09:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Wait..Isn't he biracial? Dad African decent Mother European Decent? The whole race thing is so stupid...everyone is basically a mishmash anyway.
haha reminds me of a true story..I can't remeber who was asking me..census or SS admin..whatever..but I was answering a stupid ethnic background question and I happen to be a mish mash myself.. I have a GG grandmother who came from Spain and they actually put me down as Latino!! um..ok
and I am also 1/8th black...so I asked the question what would any of my children be classified as then?
she takes one look at me(blonde green eyes) and says.....Caucasian
hahaha

bunch of idiots...
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Wait..Isn't he biracial? Dad African decent Mother European Decent? The whole race thing is so stupid...everyone is basically a mishmash anyway.
haha reminds me of a true story..I can't remeber who was asking me..census or SS admin..whatever..but I was answering a stupid ethnic background question and I happen to be a mish mash myself.. I have a GG grandmother who came from Spain and they actually put me down as Latino!! um..ok
and I am also 1/8th black...so I asked the question what would any of my children be classified as then?
she takes one look at me(blonde green eyes) and says.....Caucasian
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bunch of idiots...
That's true, and it always bothers me. Halle Berry winning the Oscar always comes to mind, up there gushing about being the first black actress to win best actress, while her white mother gazes adoringly at her, probably thinking "what about me?".
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 10:39 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Some think he will, at least not in the older crowd lifetime. I think so too! Maybe in another 50 years or so.

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hahahah! according to SOME!!! anyone can write anything and say according to ..some..

who is this some person? and how does he/she know all this stuff?

for serious though..of course there will be more "african american" presidents
and gasp!! women too... and dare I say... Gay too! For the people by the people...

tell ya what..I am going to volunteer to be a surrogate for that loon tune Doctor who wants to clone a Neanderthal and she/he will be the first Neanderthal American President!!!
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Obama will be the last president, according to some
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I don't think you can definitively say last black president. People said there would never be one in the first place. It all depends on the candidates and who can make themselves sound the best to the people..
So last black president, I think not.
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Depends on who's agenda it can benefit the most. If you read the article it mention who "some" are.

If it took 200+ years for him to be president, I hope it won't be another 50-200 yrs. for the next one!
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hahahah! according to SOME!!! anyone can write anything and say according to ..some..

who is this some person? and how does he/she know all this stuff?
You caught that too!

Yes, weasel words like "according to some" is nothing more than a lame attempt to justify nonsense. No self-respecting journalistic organ would ever use weasel words!

What's the source of the phony news? Oh...USA Today...

Figures...
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Default Re: Will Mr. Obama be the last Black President

He's not even 100% black.
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Could care less what his race is.
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Still waiting for as Asian president or a female one.
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Given the rate at which the US population is changing, the question perhaps ought to be: will George W be the last white president?

Jeez, you really have to hope not! What a hideous way to go out ..
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Well, he was largely elected because of his color. No reasonable person would vote for a man with no experience and zero qualifications. So race most certainly played a part in this mess.

I would like to think we could elect another black person for president. Unfortunately, we still consider race and lots of people will likely consider race when we elect the next president.
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So we will never vote for another first black president... the novelty has worn off.
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Doesn't matter the race to me. Would be interesting to see a female president though.
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We all can see that there's still a lot of racial hatred in this nation, and that's a shame. It seems like this country is more in touch with what it hates than what it loves. And we wonder why so many people are going berserk and shooting up schools...
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As long as she is qualified. Obama was elected because he is black and not because he is qualified. He is a grade A mess of a man who should not have been elected.
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I'd hate to see where we'd be after four years of President McCain. Tell Herman Cain all it takes to become president in America is to be black.
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So you approve of our current and declining employment rate?
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You approve of our global decline? Cane has a long business background thought showed growth. Barry? He brought nothing to the table and has little to improve the situation. Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth. Oh, you are aware of the NAACP statement that blacks are worse under Barry.

Also, why does Barry not pay his female staffers as he does his male staffers.
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Seeing as there's a lot of hot button issues here, I'd like to thank everyone for being civil. Especially when discussing something like race. Discussing race is ok, but racism isn't ok.

Besides, who knows what the future will hold?
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I frankly have no interest in his race; his political goals are my interest.
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Let's see, four years ago we were on the brink of a second Great Depression, the auto industry was ready to collapse, the stock market was around 7000, and the housing market had all but imploded.
Unemployment is down, the auto industry is turning big profits, the stock market has doubled to nearly 14000, and the housing market has been improving every month. All in four years. How quickly people forget the mess he inherited. Pretty impressive if you ask me, no matter what color you are. He could have accomplished more if it wasn't for the blatant republican obstructionism.
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And none of that was because of Obama either.
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Also, why does Barry not pay his female staffers as he does his male staffers.
NAACP have said that under every president, except for Clinton, maybe! It's called male chauvinism, nothing new!

TBH, I would say I'm better off during Obama term, so far, then Bush 8 years.
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So you approve of our current and declining employment rate?
If you're trying to blame a condition that was caused by the actions of Bush, Cheney and the NeoCons on President Obama, I will point out how fallacious it is. So is changing the subject.

The point remains that President (and former US senator, and former Illinois state senator, and Constitutional scholar etc. etc. etc.) Barack Obama did not get elected just because he was black.

If being black was all it took, then Shirley Chisholm would have been our first black President and our first woman President.
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He did not get elected just because he was black. And the employment rate is not declining. The debt is a problem. More could be done about that if congress could work together instead of being against whatever the other party is for, just because they're for it. This isn't something that is specific to one party unfortunately, but the republicans seem to be especially good at it. Particularly lately.

The hatred and bitterness toward Obama is staggering. Considering we've had far worse presidents that garnered less hatred. But to listen to some people out there, you'd think he was the devil himself. Actually there are people who literally claim he's a terrorist, and the Antichrist, just to name a couple. But I digress. Reason usually prevails, and I believe he certainly won't be the last black president. We'll probably have a black republican president soon too, as someone else pointed out.
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And none of that was because of Obama either.
So, he takes all the blame for anything that goes wrong, but gets no credit for anything that goes right?
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As far as the name goes, if you believe Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh, it should be King Hussein.

But no, he will not be the last, but the first of many racially diverse legally elected Presidents.
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So, he takes all the blame for anything that goes wrong, but gets no credit for anything that goes right?

Doooo Telllllll. What has gone so right?
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You're asking, what did Obama achieve?

Apart from turning around the economy, extracting the country from two disasterous (Republican) wars, winning a war in Libya, taking down the world's most wanted man, dragging US health care kicking and screaming into the mid-20th century (only 60 years out), restoring US prestige and power from the absolute nadir of the Bush years and standing up to a Repulican party that tried it's level best to destroy the US just to stop him getting re-elected?

Not much, I guess.

You're a Fox 'News' viewer, right ..?
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You're asking, what did Obama achieve?

Apart from turning around the economy, extracting the country from two disasterous (Republican) wars, winning a war in Libya, taking down the world's most wanted man, dragging US health care kicking and screaming into the mid-20th century (only 60 years out), restoring US prestige and power from the absolute nadir of the Bush years and standing up to a Repulican party that tried it's level best to destroy the US just to stop him getting re-elected?

Not much, I guess.

You're a Fox 'News' viewer, right ..?
WOW, really? Obama turned the economy around? Golly, I guess I stand corrected. Due tell, how did he turn the economy around? Us Fox viewers are really dying to know what he did specifically. I'll give you some extra time to Google your answer.

Before you praise King Obama's health care, you might want to wait and see exactly what this means. You HC supporters think it is grand and great, but this only proves you know nothing about the ramifications of Obamacare.

I think before you castigate us Republicans you find a few facts. Do you have examples--specific examples--of what EXACTLY Obama has actually done?
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WOW, really? Obama turned the economy around?
Lets just take a quick look at a few facts: before Obama got in, the economy was contracting, now it's growing; unemployment was growing, now it's shrinking; the Dow was down, now it's up; house prices were falling, now they're rising ..

Basically, on every measure, the economy has turned around.

Despite the best efforts of the Republicans. They want to cut, cut, cut. Exactly what the right wing has done in the UK where, as a direct result, we are now in our THIRD recession since 2007. And that defiicit they claim they're trying to drive down? It has GROWN.

Which obviously, it would: if your problem is not enough spending in the economy, how is cutting spending - and consequently, tax revenues - going to help? Answer: it doesn't. It makes things worse. It did in the 1930s, it does in the 2010s.

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Before you praise King Obama's health care, you might want to wait and see exactly what this means. You HC supporters think it is grand and great, but this only proves you know nothing about the ramifications of Obamacare.
Obamacare is a Republican policy. It was first proposed by Republicans. It was first implemented by the last Republican presidential candidate - and was the most successful thing he ever did.

Here's an hilarious thing, there's a video of a Tea Party meeting where everyone is screaming their opposition to support Government health care. Then they're asked how many of them on Medicaid and about two thirds of the hands go up.

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Wow! Really?

Did you actually read the post you're responding to? All it contains is a list verifiable and undisputed facts:

The US economy is growing.
The US is out of Iraq and getting out Afganistan.
Gaddafi is dead and Libya free.
Bin Laden is dead.
The US finally has some almost sensible health care provision.
The US has restored some the prestige it lost under Bush.

There's nothing there even you can deny.

On pretty much any measure, Obama is one of the most successful presidents you've had since Lyndon B. Johnson.
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Here's a list of just the highlights of what President Obama has accomplished:

The Washington Monthly - The Magazine - Obama’s Top 50 Accomplishments

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1. Passed Health Care Reform: After five presidents over a century failed to create universal health insurance, signed the Affordable Care Act (2010). It will cover 32 million uninsured Americans beginning in 2014 and mandates a suite of experimental measures to cut health care cost growth, the number one cause of America’s long-term fiscal problems. 2. Passed the Stimulus: Signed $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009 to spur economic growth amid greatest recession since the Great Depression. Weeks after stimulus went into effect, unemployment claims began to subside. Twelve months later, the private sector began producing more jobs than it was losing, and it has continued to do so for twenty-three straight months, creating a total of nearly 3.7 million new private-sector jobs.
3. Passed Wall Street Reform: Signed the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (2010) to re-regulate the financial sector after its practices caused the Great Recession. The new law tightens capital requirements on large banks and other financial institutions, requires derivatives to be sold on clearinghouses and exchanges, mandates that large banks provide “living wills” to avoid chaotic bankruptcies, limits their ability to trade with customers’ money for their own profit, and creates the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (now headed by Richard Cordray) to crack down on abusive lending products and companies.
4. Ended the War in Iraq: Ordered all U.S. military forces out of the country. Last troops left on December 18, 2011.
5. Began Drawdown of War in Afghanistan: From a peak of 101,000 troops in June 2011, U.S. forces are now down to 91,000, with 23,000 slated to leave by the end of summer 2012. According to Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, the combat mission there will be over by next year.
6. Eliminated Osama bin laden: In 2011, ordered special forces raid of secret compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, in which the terrorist leader was killed and a trove of al-Qaeda documents was discovered.
7. Turned Around U.S. Auto Industry: In 2009, injected $62 billion in federal money (on top of $13.4 billion in loans from the Bush administration) into ailing GM and Chrysler in return for equity stakes and agreements for massive restructuring. Since bottoming out in 2009, the auto industry has added more than 100,000 jobs. In 2011, the Big Three automakers all gained market share for the first time in two decades. The government expects to lose $16 billion of its investment, less if the price of the GM stock it still owns increases.
8. Recapitalized Banks: In the midst of financial crisis, approved controversial Treasury Department plan to lure private capital into the country’s largest banks via “stress tests” of their balance sheets and a public-private fund to buy their “toxic” assets. Got banks back on their feet at essentially zero cost to the government.
9. Repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”: Ended 1990s-era restriction and formalized new policy allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military for the first time.
10. Toppled Moammar Gaddafi: In March 2011, joined a coalition of European and Arab governments in military action, including air power and naval blockade, against Gaddafi regime to defend Libyan civilians and support rebel troops. Gaddafi’s forty-two-year rule ended when the dictator was overthrown and killed by rebels on October 20, 2011. No American lives were lost.
11. Told Mubarak to Go: On February 1, 2011, publicly called on Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to accept reform or step down, thus weakening the dictator’s position and putting America on the right side of the Arab Spring. Mubarak ended thirty-year rule when overthrown on February 11.
12. Reversed Bush Torture Policies: Two days after taking office, nullified Bush-era rulings that had allowed detainees in U.S. custody to undergo certain “enhanced” interrogation techniques considered inhumane under the Geneva Conventions. Also released the secret Bush legal rulings supporting the use of these techniques.
13. Improved America’s Image Abroad: With new policies, diplomacy, and rhetoric, reversed a sharp decline in world opinion toward the U.S. (and the corresponding loss of “soft power”) during the Bush years. From 2008 to 2011, favorable opinion toward the United States rose in ten of fifteen countries surveyed by the Pew Global Attitudes Project, with an average increase of 26 percent.
14. Kicked Banks Out of Federal Student Loan Program, Expanded Pell Grant Spending: As part of the 2010 health care reform bill, signed measure ending the wasteful decades-old practice of subsidizing banks to provide college loans. Starting July 2010 all students began getting their federal student loans directly from the federal government. Treasury will save $67 billion over ten years, $36 billion of which will go to expanding Pell Grants to lower-income students.
15. Created Race to the Top: With funds from stimulus, started $4.35 billion program of competitive grants to encourage and reward states for education reform.
16. Boosted Fuel Efficiency Standards: Released new fuel efficiency standards in 2011 that will nearly double the fuel economy for cars and trucks by 2025.
17. Coordinated International Response to Financial Crisis: To keep world economy out of recession in 2009 and 2010, helped secure from G-20 nations more than $500 billion for the IMF to provide lines of credit and other support to emerging market countries, which kept them liquid and avoided crises with their currencies.
18. Passed Mini Stimuli: To help families hurt by the recession and spur the economy as stimulus spending declined, signed series of measures (July 22, 2010; December 17, 2010; December 23, 2011) to extend unemployment insurance and cut payroll taxes.
19. Began Asia “Pivot”: In 2011, reoriented American military and diplomatic priorities and focus from the Middle East and Europe to the Asian-Pacific region. Executed multipronged strategy of positively engaging China while reasserting U.S. leadership in the region by increasing American military presence and crafting new commercial, diplomatic, and military alliances with neighboring countries made uncomfortable by recent Chinese behavior.
20. Increased Support for Veterans: With so many soldiers coming home from Iraq and Iran with serious physical and mental health problems, yet facing long waits for services, increased 2010 Department of Veterans Affairs budget by 16 percent and 2011 budget by 10 percent. Also signed new GI bill offering $78 billion in tuition assistance over a decade, and provided multiple tax credits to encourage businesses to hire veterans.
21. Tightened Sanctions on Iran: In effort to deter Iran’s nuclear program, signed Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability, and Divestment Act (2010) to punish firms and individuals who aid Iran’s petroleum sector. In late 2011 and early 2012, coordinated with other major Western powers to impose sanctions aimed at Iran’s banks and with Japan, South Korea, and China to shift their oil purchases away from Iran.
22. Created Conditions to Begin Closing Dirtiest Power Plants: New EPA restrictions on mercury and toxic pollution, issued in December 2011, likely to lead to the closing of between sixty-eight and 231 of the nation’s oldest and dirtiest coal-fired power plants. Estimated cost to utilities: at least $11 billion by 2016. Estimated health benefits: $59 billion to $140 billion. Will also significantly reduce carbon emissions and, with other regulations, comprises what’s been called Obama’s “stealth climate policy.”
23. Passed Credit Card Reforms: Signed the Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility, and Disclosure Act (2009), which prohibits credit card companies from raising rates without advance notification, mandates a grace period on interest rate increases, and strictly limits overdraft and other fees.
24. Eliminated Catch-22 in Pay Equality Laws: Signed Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act in 2009, giving women who are paid less than men for the same work the right to sue their employers after they find out about the discrimination, even if that discrimination happened years ago. Under previous law, as interpreted by the Supreme Court in Ledbetter v. Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co., the statute of limitations on such suits ran out 180 days after the alleged discrimination occurred, even if the victims never knew about it.
25. Protected Two Liberal Seats on the U.S. Supreme Court: Nominated and obtained confirmation for Sonia Sotomayor, the first Hispanic and third woman to serve, in 2009; and Elena Kagan, the fourth woman to serve, in 2010. They replaced David Souter and John Paul Stevens, respectively.
26. Improved Food Safety System: In 2011, signed FDA Food Safety Modernization Act, which boosts the Food and Drug Administration’s budget by $1.4 billion and expands its regulatory responsibilities to include increasing number of food inspections, issuing direct food recalls, and reviewing the current food safety practices of countries importing products into America.
27. Achieved New START Treaty: Signed with Russia (2010) and won ratification in Congress (2011) of treaty that limits each country to 1,550 strategic warheads (down from 2,200) and 700 launchers (down from more than 1,400), and reestablished and strengthened a monitoring and transparency program that had lapsed in 2009, through which each country can monitor the other.
28. Expanded National Service: Signed Serve America Act in 2009, which authorized a tripling of the size of AmeriCorps. Program grew 13 percent to 85,000 members across the country by 2012, when new House GOP majority refused to appropriate more funds for further expansion.
29. Expanded Wilderness and Watershed Protection: Signed Omnibus Public Lands Management Act (2009), which designated more than 2 million acres as wilderness, created thousands of miles of recreational and historic trails, and protected more than 1,000 miles of rivers.
30. Gave the FDA Power to Regulate Tobacco: Signed the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act (2009). Nine years in the making and long resisted by the tobacco industry, the law mandates that tobacco manufacturers disclose all ingredients, obtain FDA approval for new tobacco products, and expand the size and prominence of cigarette warning labels, and bans the sale of misleadingly labeled “light” cigarette brands and tobacco sponsorship of entertainment events.
31. Pushed Federal Agencies to Be Green Leaders: Issued executive order in 2009 requiring all federal agencies to make plans to soften their environmental impacts by 2020. Goals include 30 percent reduction in fleet gasoline use, 26 percent boost in water efficiency, and sustainability requirements for 95 percent of all federal contracts. Because federal government is the country’s single biggest purchaser of goods and services, likely to have ripple effects throughout the economy for years to come.
32. Passed Fair Sentencing Act: Signed 2010 legislation that reduces sentencing disparity between crack versus powder cocaine possessionfrom100 to1 to 18 to1.
33. Trimmed and Reoriented Missile Defense: Cut the Reagan-era “Star Wars” missile defense budget, saving $1.4 billion in 2010, and canceled plans to station antiballistic missile systems in Poland and the Czech Republic in favor of sea-based defense plan focused on Iran and North Korea.
34. Began Post-Post-9/11 Military Builddown: After winning agreement from congressional Republicans and Democrats in summer 2011 budget deal to reduce projected defense spending by $450 billion, proposed new DoD budget this year with cuts of that size and a new national defense strategy that would shrink ground forces from 570,000 to 490,000 over the next ten years while increasing programs in intelligence gathering and cyberwarfare.
35. Let Space Shuttle Die and Killed Planned Moon Mission: Allowed the expensive ($1 billion per launch), badly designed, dangerous shuttle program to make its final launch on July 8, 2011. Cut off funding for even more bloated and problem-plagued Bush-era Constellation program to build moon base in favor of support for private-sector low-earth orbit ventures, research on new rocket technologies for long-distance manned flight missions, and unmanned space exploration, including the largest interplanetary rover ever launched, which will investigate Mars’s potential to support life.
36. Invested Heavily in Renewable Technology: As part of the 2009 stimulus, invested $90 billion, more than any previous administration, in research on smart grids, energy efficiency, electric cars, renewable electricity generation, cleaner coal, and biofuels.
37. Crafting Next-Generation School Tests: Devoted $330 million in stimulus money to pay two consortia of states and universities to create competing versions of new K-12 student performance tests based on latest psychometric research. New tests could transform the learning environment in vast majority of public school classrooms beginning in 2014.
38. Cracked Down on Bad For-Profit Colleges: In effort to fight predatory practices of some for-profit colleges, Department of Education issued “gainful employment” regulations in 2011 cutting off commercially focused schools from federal student aid funding if more than 35 percent of former students aren’t paying off their loans and/or if the average former student spends more than 12 percent of his or her total earnings servicing student loans.
39. Improved School Nutrition: In coordination with Michelle Obama, signed Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act in 2010 mandating $4.5 billion spending boost and higher nutritional and health standards for school lunches. New rules based on the law, released in January, double the amount of fruits and vegetables and require only whole grains in food served to students.
40. Expanded Hate Crimes Protections: Signed Hate Crimes Prevention Act (2009), which expands existing hate crime protections to include crimes based on a victim’s sexual orientation, gender, or disability, in addition to race, color, religion, or national origin.
41. Avoided Scandal: As of November 2011, served longer than any president in decades without a scandal, as measured by the appearance of the word “scandal” (or lack thereof) on the front page of the Washington Post.
42. Brokered Agreement for Speedy Compensation to Victims of Gulf Oil Spill: Though lacking statutory power to compel British Petroleum to act, used moral authority of his office to convince oil company to agree in 2010 to a $20 billion fund to compensate victims of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico; $6.5 billion already paid out without lawsuits. By comparison, it took nearly two decades for plaintiffs in the Exxon Valdez Alaska oil spill case to receive $1.3 billion.
43. Created Recovery.gov: Web site run by independent board of inspectors general looking for fraud and abuse in stimulus spending, provides public with detailed information on every contract funded by $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Thanks partly to this transparency, board has uncovered very little fraud, and Web site has become national model: “The stimulus has done more to promote transparency at almost all levels of government than any piece of legislation in recent memory,” reports Governing magazine.
44. Pushed Broadband Coverage: Proposed and obtained in 2011 Federal Communications Commission approval for a shift of $8 billion in subsidies away from landlines and toward broadband Internet for lower-income rural families.
45. Expanded Health Coverage for Children: Signed 2009 Children’s Health Insurance Authorization Act, which allows the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) to cover health care for 4 million more children, paid for by a tax increase on tobacco products.
46. Recognized the Dangers of Carbon Dioxide: In 2009, EPA declared carbon dioxide a pollutant, allowing the agency to regulate its production.
47. Expanded Stem Cell Research: In 2009, eliminated the Bush-era restrictions on embryonic stem cell research, which shows promise in treating spinal injuries, among many other areas.
48. Provided Payment to Wronged Minority Farmers: In 2009, signed Claims Resolution Act, which provided $4.6 billion in funding for a legal settlement with black and Native American farmers who the government cheated out of loans and natural resource royalties in years past.
49. Helped South Sudan Declare Independence: Helped South Sudan Declare Independence: Appointed two envoys to Sudan and personally attended a special UN meeting on the area. Through U.S. ambassador to the United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice, helped negotiate a peaceful split in 2011.
50. Killed the F-22: In 2009, ended further purchases of Lockheed Martin single-seat, twin-engine, fighter aircraft, which cost $358 million apiece. Though the military had 187 built, the plane has never flown a single combat mission. Eliminating it saved $4 billion.
This is not unsubstantial! And that's only the tip of the iceberg. Not bad for a President who has been embattled every day of his presidency, by rabid partisans who are essentially wanting to kill the USA to make a self-fulfilling prophecy "things aren't as good while coincidentally Obama is President". Thanks to President Obama, that effort (which I consider treasonous) has failed.

Thank God we have a President who is saving the country from its worst enemies: the enemies within.
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The Washington Monthly - The Magazine - Obama’s Top 50 Accomplishments

This is not unsubstantial! And that's only the tip of the iceberg. Not bad for a President who has been embattled every day of his presidency, by rabid partisans who are essentially wanting to kill the USA to make a self-fulfilling prophecy "things aren't as good while coincidentally Obama is President". Thanks to President Obama, that effort (which I consider treasonous) has failed.

Thank God we have a President who is saving the country from its worst enemies: the enemies within.
Expanded Pell Grant spending? Seriously, what do you smoke because I'd like some. No one gets Pell Grants unless youre a minority. Please, saving our country my ass!
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Expanded Pell Grant spending? Seriously, what do you smoke because I'd like some. No one gets Pell Grants unless youre a minority. Please, saving our country my ass!
That seems like a very racist/prejudiced comment to me.

From what I gather race has nothing to do with eligibility, but as it suggests, its the income of the household, most probably the parents.

What's wrong with that?

Or is it only the rich that are entitled to an education, the chance to change their life and make something more of it. Are the poor always supposed to be poor?

After all if the poor start to become educated and make money, this means less money and fewer jobs for the rich! And that obviously isn't fair!
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Expanded Pell Grant spending? Seriously, what do you smoke because I'd like some. No one gets Pell Grants unless youre a minority. Please, saving our country my ass!

Ignorance. Your post sounds incredibly racist. Pell Grants are given to anyone and everyone with a qualifying income.

The one and only point you contest, and you are factually, MISERABLY wrong. Try again.
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Maybe we should compare Obama's record to a Replican president's? How about the most recent one? His record was great, he:

- failed to prevent 9/11
- started and lost a war in Afganistan
- illegally started and lost a war in Iraq
- failed to capture or kill the world's leading terrorist
- destroyed US prestige in the world
- destroyed the US economy
- destroyed the global economy
- turned history's largest goverment surplus into history's largest deficit
- ignored or exacerbated real problems like global warming

.. should I go on ..?
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That seems like a very racist/prejudiced comment to me.

From what I gather race has nothing to do with eligibility, but as it suggests, its the income of the household, most probably the parents.

What's wrong with that?

Or is it only the rich that are entitled to an education, the chance to change their life and make something more of it. Are the poor always supposed to be poor?

After all if the poor start to become educated and make money, this means less money and fewer jobs for the rich! And that obviously isn't fair!
In theory that's how it is supposed to work. However, that's not how it works in real life. In both colleges I've attended, I've seen the minorities getting pell grants while the non-minoraties didn't. Following your logic, ibwould have gotten financial aid, but I didn't. Funny thing, when I went to school in Maryland, there was a black guy bragging about all of the money his dad brings in as a lawyer and he still got financial aid. I suggest you at least know what you're talking about when you speak...





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Ignorance. Your post sounds incredibly racist. Pell Grants are given to anyone and everyone with a qualifying income.

The one and only point you contest, and you are factually, MISERABLY wrong. Try again.
Racist? Anytime a White person speaks out against obama, it's considered racist. Read my above statement, I am not wrong! I suggest you see how things happen in the real world, not how they're supposed to happen. Shall I contest his claim of helping veterans? As a commissioned officer I can tell you that is NOT the case! Oh well, as long as we have a democrat in office, they can do no wrong.
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Pell Grants are available to low income individuals based on income. Race has nothing to do with. But I believe the school decides who qualify and request the funds.

Pell Grant Eligibility

Who May Apply: (by category) Individuals

Who May Apply: (specifically) Undergraduate and vocational students enrolled or accepted for enrollment in participating schools may apply.

Pell Grants are awarded usually only to students who have not earned a bachelor's or a professional degree.

To be eligible for a Pell grant, you must also meet the general federal student aid eligibility requirements.
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In theory that's how it is supposed to work. However, that's not how it works in real life. In both colleges I've attended, I've seen the minorities getting pell grants while the non-minoraties didn't. Following your logic, ibwould have gotten financial aid, but I didn't. Funny thing, when I went to school in Maryland, there was a black guy bragging about all of the money his dad brings in as a lawyer and he still got financial aid. Also following your logic, my sister who now lives with my wife and I would qualify. I suggest you at least know what you're talking about when you speak...
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Racist? Go screw your self! Anytime a White person speaks out against obama, it's considered racist
You may not be racist, but a lot of the people who object to Obama are. When people repeat assertions the racists make, it's an easy mistake for people to make. That's definitely not to say that they're right.

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Nope. But are you going to put the blame for refusing the financing on the Republican congress where it belongs?

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As a commissioned officer I can tell you that is NOT the case! Oh well, as long as we have a f***ing democrat in office, they can do no wrong.
They do plenty that's wrong. The drone war, Gitmo, phone tapping etc. There's a long list. Thing is, these tend not to be the things Republicans object to .. largely because they're policies they initiated.
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Racist? Go screw your self! Anytime a White person speaks out against obama, it's considered racist. Read my above statement, I am not wrong! I suggest you see how things happen in the real world, not how they're supposed to happen. Shall I contest his claim of helping veterans? As a commissioned officer I can tell you that is NOT the case! Oh well, as long as we have a f***ing democrat in office, they can do no wrong.
Yes, you ARE wrong. I never said you were racist simply because you speak against Obama. You said only minorities get Pell Grants, but they are for low income people. So it sounds like you are saying minorities are the low income people. I know how things happen in the real world, unlike you I guess. I myself was granted a Pell Grant for school, and I'm not a minority.

On a different subject: For the record, this hatred that many have for Obama comes from somewhere. I wouldn't assume someone was racist just because they disagree with the policies of a black man. But the extreme level of searing HATRED that is shown for him is born of a different place than mere disagreement. People calling him a muslim from Kenya, something that is positively untrue, or claiming he's the Antichrist, something that is laughably ridiculous... I can't prove that comes from racism, but I sure as hell can't imagine where else it comes from. Certainly no place logical and sensible.
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I don't think he will be our last black president.....color should have nothing to do with someones qualifications....unfortunately in this world the color of your skin matters...
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Ignorance. Your post sounds incredibly racist. Pell Grants are given to anyone and everyone with a qualifying income.

The one and only point you contest, and you are factually, MISERABLY wrong. Try again.

Who Are Pell Grant Recipients? | Inside Higher Ed

1999 - 2000, whites received the majority of the PELL Grants if the above is true. It must be because it was on the internet.

This:

http://www.finaid.org/educators/ProfileofPellGrantRecipients.pdf

I think says something different. I did not read it, just posting random facts to fill white space. We call it 'padding.' You read it and tell me. Smiley.

Here is an idea . . before posting mostly blacks or whites or greens recieve more or less Pell cash, how about a little research first? Bob does not know either way.
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how about a little research first?
No, no: the GOP have definitively proved that unsupported assertion (i.e. making sh*t up) is way more efficient.

Not only does Sh*t You Make Up support your irrational biases absolutely, it also costs you nothing to create but costs those irritating sensible people - the ones who think facts matter more than BS - a lot of time to disprove.
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No, no: the GOP have definitively proved that unsupported assertion (i.e. making sh*t up) is way more efficient.

Not only does Sh*t You Make Up support your irrational biases absolutely, it also costs you nothing to create but costs those irritating sensible people - the ones who think facts matter more than BS - a lot of time to disprove.
Please stop asserting that it is only the GOP that is the fault of everything. Democrats are equally to blame for making stuff up that you are laying at the GOP's feet.

So I did a simple google search, and I found:

PolitiFact | Statements we say are False

That provides a mix of democrats and republicans. Mostly of during the past presidential race.

Here's another story utilizing politifact: Fact Checking ABC's This Week: Most 'False' Statements Uttered by Democrats | Media Research Center It describes how democrats are increasingly making false statements about republicans.

This one contradicts the previous one, but is several months older: Study: Fact-checkers find Romney/GOP lie twice as much as Democrats - AMERICAblog

So the conclusion that I am drawing from this is that both parties are quite capable of lying whenever it suits their political needs and that we should be equally distrustful of both in order to try to find the truth of the matter.
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True. Mea culpa.
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Please stop asserting that it is only the GOP that is the fault of everything. Democrats are equally to blame for making stuff up that you are laying at the GOP's feet.
But you know we MUST blame the Republicans, since that's who obama says to blame. The Democrats must learn to take responsibility for their actions and not just pass blame.
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Originally Posted by SiempreTuna View Post
Maybe we should compare Obama's record to a Replican president's? How about the most recent one? His record was great, he:

- failed to prevent 9/11
- started and lost a war in Afganistan
- illegally started and lost a war in Iraq
- failed to capture or kill the world's leading terrorist
- destroyed US prestige in the world
- destroyed the US economy
- destroyed the global economy
- turned history's largest goverment surplus into history's largest deficit
- ignored or exacerbated real problems like global warming

.. should I go on ..?
Now that it's looking more and more like Jeb will run, that's a good reminder for why we should think twice (and thrice) about giving another Bush a shot at our nation. It's also important because it's based 100% on issues, and 0% on race.
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