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Old June 17th, 2010, 12:27 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Ummm your way off base here, (again, big surprise right?)

Someone being a good teacher has absolutely nothing to do with being a patriot.. o.O sometimes I wonder who line feeds you this crap. Or do you just make it up?

So tell me, what has obama done to better the country? All I see is things he wanted to do that have made the country worse off.

Any patriot who is physically capable will salute our national flag(especially during the national anthem). Period. Anyone who doesn't, simply isn't a patriot. Period. In some places, that would be looked on as treason. Obama can thank god(or is it allah, for him?)this is the land of tolerance.

Man hakr, at the rate your going, your going to need a space shuttle to catch your credibility.

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Old June 17th, 2010, 04:04 PM   #102 (permalink)
 
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Real patriotism involves working to better your country, state, city, community, et cetera, and in defending your country and your fellow citizens, and in improving the possibilities of their futures.
I agree if this is done by someone that is selfless and not doing so for their political aspirations and to help their ulterior motives.

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Person that works for or volunteers with Habitat For Humanity to build homes = Patriot.

Person that works or volunteers as a community organizer to build their political aspirations = Jerk.
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Old June 17th, 2010, 04:29 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Work I can agree with, however only you determine your future and it's possibilities. I am in no way responsible for your future but I do try to make life better for my own kids etc.
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Old June 18th, 2010, 09:14 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Ummm your way off base here, (again, big surprise right?)

Someone being a good teacher has absolutely nothing to do with being a patriot.. o.O sometimes I wonder who line feeds you this crap. Or do you just make it up?

So tell me, what has obama done to better the country? All I see is things he wanted to do that have made the country worse off.

Any patriot who is physically capable will salute our national flag(especially during the national anthem). Period. Anyone who doesn't, simply isn't a patriot. Period. In some places, that would be looked on as treason. Obama can thank god(or is it allah, for him?)this is the land of tolerance.

Man hakr, at the rate your going, your going to need a space shuttle to catch your credibility.

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Oh, wow I had been completely misguided my whole life. Thanks IOWA!

*salutes American flag*

*writes country song employing unsubstantiated rhetoric as to why America is the best country*

The biggest thing here is that through all the bickering everyone has done, nobody has affected change through this. The fact that people actually argue over stuff as trivial and insignificant as Obama not saluting the flag makes me wonder why America is so great. Maybe something better to argue about would be a solution to curb high school dropouts or finding a way to fire every member on the Texas Board of Education who is a member of the Christian Coalition. Maybe we, as a collection of people who have been brought together based on the fact that we like Android, can come up with a viable solution to some of the problems of America or even the world if we set aside our differences and petty bickering.
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Old June 18th, 2010, 09:41 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Oh, wow I had been completely misguided my whole life. Thanks IOWA!

*salutes American flag*

*writes country song employing unsubstantiated rhetoric as to why America is the best country*

The biggest thing here is that through all the bickering everyone has done, nobody has affected change through this. The fact that people actually argue over stuff as trivial and insignificant as Obama not saluting the flag makes me wonder why America is so great. Maybe something better to argue about would be a solution to curb high school dropouts or finding a way to fire every member on the Texas Board of Education who is a member of the Christian Coalition. Maybe we, as a collection of people who have been brought together based on the fact that we like Android, can come up with a viable solution to some of the problems of America or even the world if we set aside our differences and petty bickering.
Pot or kettle?
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Old June 18th, 2010, 09:46 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Pot or kettle?
If you're referring to the beginning where I mocked his argument, yeah it is hypocritical and was mostly a joke. And that joke was meant to illustrate a point. Substantive action trumps symbolic action every time. That said, I don't think there is any denying that there isn't merit to the rest of my post. This isn't a debate that's going on in this thread. It's a mud slinging contest. And we've run out of mud so we've started using cow manure.
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Oh, wow I had been completely misguided my whole life. Thanks IOWA!

*salutes American flag*

*writes country song employing unsubstantiated rhetoric as to why America is the best country*

The biggest thing here is that through all the bickering everyone has done, nobody has affected change through this. The fact that people actually argue over stuff as trivial and insignificant as Obama not saluting the flag makes me wonder why America is so great. Maybe something better to argue about would be a solution to curb high school dropouts or finding a way to fire every member on the Texas Board of Education who is a member of the Christian Coalition. Maybe we, as a collection of people who have been brought together based on the fact that we like Android, can come up with a viable solution to some of the problems of America or even the world if we set aside our differences and petty bickering.
So now your going to turn this into a country war? What are you doing in here if your not even from the states? This doesn't really concern you, now does it? Then your going to mock my country? Thread reported.
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Android Forums has members worldwide, and everyone is perfectly entitled to contribute to whatever thread interests them.

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The same could be said for members who post in threads concerning handsets they don't own. We don't restrict those either.
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Old June 19th, 2010, 07:22 AM   #109 (permalink)
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So now your going to turn this into a country war? What are you doing in here if your not even from the states? This doesn't really concern you, now does it? Then your going to mock my country? Thread reported.

A country war? What do you mean by that?

Many around the world are concerned about what happens in the United States and what the thoughts of its people and government are.
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Old June 19th, 2010, 11:51 AM   #110 (permalink)
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So now your going to turn this into a country war? What are you doing in here if your not even from the states? This doesn't really concern you, now does it? Then your going to mock my country? Thread reported.
I am wondering where you got the idea that I am not an American. I am American. I was born and raised in Houston. I am now going to School in Texas. I have never lived outside the U.S. Also I have no idea how I turned this into a country war.

EDIT: And I am not mocking the U.S.
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I am wondering where you got the idea that I am not an American. I am American. I was born and raised in Houston. I am now going to School in Texas. I have never lived outside the U.S. Also I have no idea how I turned this into a country war.

EDIT: And I am not mocking the U.S.
Meh, maybe a misinterpretation. Carry on.
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What are you doing in here if your not even from the states? This doesn't really concern you, now does it?
On the contrary, I would be very interested to read what folks from North Korea and China would think of this topic... oh... right.
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On the contrary, I would be very interested to read what folks from North Korea and China would think of this topic... oh... right.

Symbolic patriotism? Well, the Chinese were deep into that during the reign of Mao...and the North Koreans are into it now. It's coerced.
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Yes. It's kind of funny because when they see someone else doing whatever they want, they get mad anyway. It reminds me of a joke that I heard a while ago.

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When I first read that joke, I thought the person who sent it to me was the most cynnical person in the world. Sometime later, I got a job with the government and have been getting clobbered by 3 other gorillas for some reason everyday... I imagine that the oppressed feel the same way when they see our decadent culture. Saluting/not saluting the flag at key times is a sign of respect, disrespect, or ignorance. Just like with little kids swearing, I don't care what you do just don't cry foul if people treat you differently because of it.
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 01:10 AM   #115 (permalink)
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After servicing 24 years and just recently retiring from service I think you need to remember that 90 percent of the flags you are speaking of that people wrap themselves in are not really flags and only copies, big difference from where I sit. I have a problem with people who don't respect the flag and so I don't feel that way about athletes that use those copies of flags at sporting events to show their love of our country. You degrade our flag in my presence watch out but not everything is always as it seems. Thanks for your service.
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