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Hello, I bought new phone (Lenovo P780 Plus) few days ago and I noticed that it has like 3.5GB ram free, but it always uses 512. So, is there a way to increase the amount of ram that phone uses, because I can't run games like Asphalt 8 and GTA:SA. Help!
 
Are you sure you are reading that right? 400M + 900M are > 1G, so the /data numbers are inconsistent (and I know the app works correctly on my phone).

Also you talk about RAM in the first post, but this stuff is about storage space, which is different. However, according to all specs on the web this phone only has 1GB RAM, so 3.5GB sounds more like the internal storage than the RAM.
 
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Are you sure you are reading that right? 400M + 900M are > 1G, so the /data numbers are inconsistent (and I know the app works correctly on my phone).

Also you talk about RAM in the first post, but this stuff is about storage space, which is different. However, according to all specs on the web this phone only has 1GB RAM, so 3.5GB sounds more like the internal storage than the RAM.

Sry I'm not familiar with phones ram and stuff. So I think I got ripped off, because when I bought it, it said phone has 4G ram?
 
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More likely ignorance or sloppiness on the part of the person selling it. 4GB internal storage is probably what is meant, but salespeople and shops can be imprecise in their descriptions. They could be confused because the storage technology is technically "flash RAM", or just simply not understand what they are saying (I've also known shops describe the internal storage as "ROM" to distinguish it from RAM, which is also hopelessly incorrect).

To be honest I can't think of any phone that has 4GB RAM yet. Even major flagships such as the HTC M9, Samsung S6 and Note 4 only have 3GB RAM.
 
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Sry I'm not familiar with phones ram and stuff. So I think I got ripped off, because when I bought it, it said phone has 4G ram?

4G Internet maybe? Sometimes they trick people and say 4GB ram but its acculy storage space..
http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_p780-5544.php
MEMORY
Card slot: microSD, up to 32 GB
Internal: 4/8 GB, 1 GB RAM
 
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More likely ignorance or sloppiness on the part of the person selling it. 4GB internal storage is probably what is meant, but salespeople and shops can be imprecise in their descriptions. They could be confused because the storage technology is technically "flash RAM", or just simply not understand what they are saying (I've also known shops describe the internal storage as "ROM" to distinguish it from RAM, which is also hopelessly incorrect).

To be honest I can't think of any phone that has 4GB RAM yet. Even major flagships such as the HTC M9, Samsung S6 and Note 4 only have 3GB RAM.

Check on ali.express Lenovo p780 Plus and tell me :/ Cuz I might just ask for refund :/
 
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Dhgate, popular seller, lists the P780 with an 8 GB ROM (meaning storage) and the P780+ with 16 GB.

Both have 2 GB RAM.

Your PC has a hard disk and it has memory.

The phone's RAM is the same exact thing as the memory on a PC.

When a phone says ROM or storage, it's like the pc hard disk (just no moving parts, it's done with chips).

The storage on the phone is divided into 4 or 5 general areas.

Please think of these areas like special folders, just like on a pc. Unlike a pc, their maximum sizes are FIXED by the factory.
Here are the storage areas -

1. Reserved space you don't see and we don't show - for all of the actual telephone radio stuff to work. Before your Lenovo can be a smartphone, it has to be a phone.

2. The Android system plus the pre-installed apps your phone had when it came out of the box. A little bit of Android is hidden in part 1, above, but most of it is in /system.

3. Separate space for your apps and the private data that goes along with ALL apps, and all of that is in /data.

4. Space for your pictures, movies, music and so forth. This goes by many names, depends on the phone.

5. Optional - an SD card that you plug in. This gets used exactly like part 4, above. You can think of it like adding a second hard disk to a pc.

The first part you don't care about.

Storage Truth shows you parts 2 and 3.

Most people here are used to the part 4 number mixing in with the part 3 number, but I think it doesn't on the Lenovo.

To see parts 4 and 5, and get the rest of your phone story, @scary alien and I recommend another app, called DiskUsage.

You'll find it linked, along with some good explanations about Storage Truth and DiskUsage, here -

http://androidforums.com/threads/qu...e-is-your-storage-truth-read-me-first.906249/

Now you know about storage and how it's like pc hard disks, and how to check it out 100%.

Let's talk about RAM, or memory.

There are no good tools to show what your phone has.

Apps ask the operating system - how much memory is there?

Depending on how you ask the operating system, or which part you ask, it gives different answers.

Plus, it has a hidden, reserved part for the hardware function, just like for storage in part 1, above.

So most people get confused or believe that they've been lied to about RAM.

Dhgate has to give refunds if specs don't match, so I would trust that your actual RAM is 2 GB, available for use after the reserved hardware, probably about 1.7 or 1.8 GB, available after Android starts, probably around 1 GB, and probably left over, free memory after your apps start running, anywhere from 150 to 400 MB, depending on your personal app use.

Android handles the RAM automatically so you don't have to worry about any of that usage.

By the way - a lot of spec sites and websites will call storage as memory.

That is silly.

Do you call your pc hard disk, "the memory?"

No. No you do not.

You call the hard disk a hard disk, and many sites selling PCs call the hard disk, storage.

Only RAM is memory.

Anyway, please check the link, read the information there, use the tools together, maybe read this post more than once to help with confusion from my bad writing style and then ask any questions. :)

http://www.dhgate.com/product/lenovo-phone-p780-2g-ram-8g-rom-android-4/196814686.html

PS to @scary alien - you know, we could build the first tool to tell the RAM truth lol.
 
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PS - how technically oriented are you?

If you want, I can give you the instructions to see the dirty details from under the hood.

You get Terminal Emulator.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jackpal.androidterm

In it, you say -

df

Press the back key to hide the keyboard, put the phone in landscape to read it.

Tap the screen to get the keyboard back. Say -

cat /proc/partitions

cat /proc/meminfo

(mind the space after cat)

The mem total number at the top is the most that the operating system can see.

Round up to the nearest GB because there's a reserved, hidden part, and that's the actual hardware amount.

The partition values that don't have a p in the name, or loop, are the actual storage chips, usually listed in kB.

You will probably see them listed as mmcblk0 for the built-in storage and mmcblk1 for an SD card.
 
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No way do I believe that phone has 4 GB ram.

No. Way.

My under the hood instructions will prove it.
 
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Anyway - $100 to $200 is a very good value for that phone, especially if the 16 GB is true, but still a good value even if it is less.

As for that vendor, I'm not familiar with people being able to get their money back when the product does not match the description, and we've seen a large number of cases where the product descriptions are just silly.

That's why we put their site in our filter and replaced the name with ****** automatically - so people don't come here and click without reading, hoping to get a killer deal.

That and we used to get a lot of spam posts for them.

4 GB phones are rare, as @Hadron pointed out.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/10-recent-new-and-upcoming-4GB-RAM-smartphones-and-tablets_id65141

^ And that was speculation at the time, that list is not correct either, the number is fewer than 10.

The Lenovo you have is not one of them.
 
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Anyway - $100 to $200 is a very good value for that phone, especially if the 16 GB is true, but still a good value even if it is less.

As for that vendor, I'm not familiar with people being able to get their money back when the product does not match the description, and we've seen a large number of cases where the product descriptions are just silly.

That's why we put their site in our filter and replaced the name with ****** automatically - so people don't come here and click without reading, hoping to get a killer deal.

That and we used to get a lot of spam posts for them.

4 GB phones are rare, as @Hadron pointed out.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/10-recent-new-and-upcoming-4GB-RAM-smartphones-and-tablets_id65141

^ And that was speculation at the time, that list is not correct either, the number is fewer than 10.

The Lenovo you have is not one of them.

Thank you for all the help mate
 
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But who on Earth will interpret "G" as "0.25GB", which is the only way that works?? I hate vendors & marketers who take the Humpty Dumpty approach to language:
'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'

But from the Storage Truth results it looks like it no more has 16GB "ROM" than it has 4 GB RAM.

("ROM" in quotes because of course the internal storage is not "Read-Only" - it would be no use to you if it were! This is what I meant earlier about vendors misusing the term ROM to distinguish from RAM)
 
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But who on Earth will interpret "G" as "0.25GB", which is the only way that works??

But from the Storage Truth results it looks like it no more has 16GB "ROM" than it has 4 GB RAM.

("ROM" in quotes because of course the internal storage is not "Read-Only" - it would be no use to you if it were! This is what I meant earlier about vendors misusing the term ROM to distinguish from RAM)
If the internal sd card and the /data partition are separate, and not pooled via FUSE, then Storage Truth won't show all of it, hence the warning statement at the top.

Storage Truth is intended to answer questions about app space available, that's why we also recommend DiskUsage.

With FUSE, /data and /storage/emulated/0 draw from the same pool. Without FUSE, they don't. I wouldn't be surprised to see a budget phone without FUSE.

Can't say without a full look. You may be right, don't know.

And consider 4-bit nibbles. 4G-nibbles would add up to 2 GB. :D

But in reality I doubt they're that clever, the G is just dimensionless and that organization thrives on opportunities for double-talk until people give up.
 
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Hadn't considered that for a phone these days. Yes, a distinct /data partition and separate /sdcard would be possible, but if so what maniac would configure 1GB /data if they had 16GB in total? No, don't tell me, I don't want to know... ;)

Seriously though, all of the vaguely credible sites seem to list the p780 plus as having either 4GB or 8GB internal storage. With those numbers a 1GB /data partition and 2GB or 6 GB /sdcard would seem possible.
 
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