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lunatic59 said:
I don't need a smartwatch...or that bottle of 18 year-old single malt. (okay, it's a half bottle already, but you get the idea ;))
WHAT?

I am in the 'now that I have one I really love it' camp. I really like just glancing at notifications and not needing to fumble with my phone. Changing faces is fun too.

Do I need a smart watch? No. Do I need that 12 year old single malt and that bottle of bourbon? Yes, yes I do. :p
 
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I see Huawei have got a new watch on the horizon, and with them still trying to make a name for themselves, and from what I hear, their products being good, I think I'll take a look at that when prices get announced, looks like a very nice one http://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/worldwide/huawei-watch/

I'm still waiting on some actual details, but I'm pretty sure the Huatch is going to be my next bit of tech one way or another.
 
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If I could afford to want a watch it would be the Huawei I think because it's just so pretty and that sums up why I'd want a smartwatch. They're gorgeous and the faces some of my online buddies are making are fing sublime.
If I was a businessman I'm sure I'd find one useful but as a bum I just can't justify one and as (i cant remember now who said above EDIT my fellow limp wristed Savage Robot) I have skinny wrists so I'd look like (I'll use an Americanism) a dork wearing one lol..
The face customisation does really fascinate the geek in me but no.
Can't afford. Don't need :(
Unless someone is offering a g watch urbane?
 
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Even with my slightly-sentient watch, I get a kick out of frequently changing watchfaces.

Also, Pippin says hi!
 
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There is the underlying, but very satisfying geek-cred that goes along with owning (and flaunting) a smartwatch. First, is the look of amazement on the face of onlookers when your watch notifies you that you have an email. Then there is their astonishment when you can actually read the email right on your watch. The total incredulity when you talk to it and it does what you tell it to do, and finally, the opportunity for righteous pontification about how it's NOT an "iWatch" because ... there are no "iWatches" ...it's Apple Watch, and this ain't it. Apple Watches are new, but I've had this for a year and Apple didn't innovate wearables!

Then it's time for a large coffee (or scotch, depending on the time of day.) :D
 
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The best geek-cred instance for me is when I pay for something with my phone/Google Wallet and the clerk asks if I want a receipt. Then my watch lights up with the transaction and I look at it and say 'nope, thanks, all set just got it'. Blows their mind every time. Then I go home and have coffee (or bourbon, depending on the time of day).
 
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A friend of mine has a Pebble. He likes the fact that he gets notifications on his wrist without having to pull out his phone.

For me, I don't feel that what a smartwatch offers is worth the price for one. It's cool to have, but not something so useful that I am willing to pay money for. Perhaps in the next few years, I would feel that a smartwatch is something worth having, but not today.
 
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Just wanted to add my two cents and say that you don't have to spend a lot of money to enjoy a smartwatch and get good use out of it! We got this one in down town Seville a few weeks ago for 30 Euros, and couldn't be more happy. You know it's good if the folks at XDA like it, lol.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/sma.../smartwatch-zgpax-s28-built-sim-card-t2892716
I am actually considering getting one of these just to have a play with and see what a smart-watch is like to use and wear, for the price especially in China can't really go wrong.
 
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Really nice mate.
Anyone think pebble will ever go Wear?

If I could afford to want a watch it would be the Huawei I think because it's just so pretty and that sums up why I'd want a smartwatch.
Unless someone is offering a g watch urbane?
If you ever get a Samsung device,PM me,you can have my GEAR2 watch,probably won't use it again.
 
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You will NOT be disappointed Mike, it really does do a lot of things that the much more expensive brands do, and I imagine that you can practically get them in a box of cereal in China, lol.

I am actually considering getting one of these just to have a play with and see what a smart-watch is like to use and wear, for the price especially in China can't really go wrong.
 
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Anyone think pebble will ever go Wear?

Doubtful. The Pebble's primary strength at this point (well, aside from the battery life afforded by the display type) is that it isn't bound to a single platform - it works just fine on Android and iOS. And as each platform builds up its own offerings (Apple Watch and Android Wear), that cross-platform support will likely continue to be what sets Pebble apart.

Just my guess though. :D
 
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I think they have apps where the watch will sound an alarm if it gets too far away from the phone. Sort of like an electronic leash between you and your phone. That'd make it a lot harder to end up with a lost or stolen phone.
They (separation alarm app) prolly exist,but,ya kinda have that protection built-in already,a pop-up/vibration warning that the BlueTooth connection has been disrupted.
I can definitely see using an aftermarket app w/more options though,as you mentioned an audible alarm.
It's easy to dismiss/forget a pop-up,especially if you're prone to being easily distracted/just get so many notifications that the separation pop-up doesn't really grab your attention.
 
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Lot’s of good uses for a watch mentioned already. After having my 2014 moto 360 for a month or so, I’ll add some more of my favorite uses/benefits that might not have been mentioned before:

1. Ability to control playback of podcast from your wrist. When I launch BeyondPod on my phone, it gives me an ongoing notification on my watch that enables me to pause/play, fast-forward/backup, tweak the volume, tweak the playback speed, and some more podcast selection controls In the old days when an embedded commercial came onto within a podcast while my phone was in the holster, I’d probably just listen to the commercial, especially if I was busy doing something. Now I’m more likely to tilt my watch, swipe left a few times and tap fast forward to save some time.

2. Similar to 1, but on chromecast. If I have videos playing on chromecast launched from youtube on my phone, then I have play/pause and volume controls right on my wrist (no fast forward/rewind though). So if I walk out of the room I’m more likely to pause the content and restart it when I get back because it is just a little bit easier especially when phone is not handy. If the next music video in a playlist is suddenly loud or soft I can easily tweak the volume from my wrist.

3. Improved ability to get my attention reliably without disturbing others around me. There is of course the fact that you have vib on your wrist instead of (or in addition to) on your phone. And you’re more likely to glance at it when it’s easy on the watch then digging out your phone. Also as discussed in this thread, the google clock alarm has some killer features for slowly-increasing volume alarm that can be snoozed or dismissed quickly from your wrist before anyone else hears. And if you have Tasker you can also incorporate that into your task management by including a keyword in high-priority tasks (details in the thread). For me it’s a useful tool that helps keep me on track by nagging me in a way that’s not intrusive to others. By the way, on the other side of the coin, you can block notifications from certain apps (lower priority) from going to the phone so you don’t get overloaded.

4. A checkoff-able list on your watch for use as “shopping list” or other “checklist” of items to be performed in a short time. I use Google Keep app on the watch (which is smart enough not to time out). In the grocery store, it keeps me from dragging my phone out in the aisles. I also have a list of about 10 things I have to remember to do when I visit my elderly mother. On the watch, you can’t search for a list, so you have to do something on your phone to put the list near the top of your Keep queue/bucket when you're ready to use it. For the shopping list, I build the list over time on in gtasks on pc or on my phone (which gives me an easy shortcut to single item input from anywhere on my phone using swipepad). Then when I’m about to go shopping (usually in the grocery parking lot), I multi-select in gtasks on phone all the things I want to get at the store and share them as a group to keep… they show up in a single list at top of Keep…ready to go on my watch. For my checklist of things to do at My Mom’s, I search for the Keep list on my phone and then make a copy on the phone. Then I grab the copy from the top of the queue on my watch and start checking things off… the original list remains waiting for next time. If I get my act together, I might set up a location reminder and open the list from the notification on my watch.

5. Steal some time in chunks of 5 or 10 seconds when I’m waiting at an elevator, waiting at a traffic light etc. In these situations I can peek at the weather or my agenda (one tap gives upcoming meetings). Also read notifications and often “disposition them” (clear the notification, mark email as read, delete it etc) so there’s not so much a backlog when I get to my phone. Personally I don’t usually reply to anything on my watch, so if it needs a reply I’ll leave it uncleared as a reminder to take care of it later. At a traffic light, I might make a quick “note to self”. If I’m walking somewhere I prefer to pull my phone out for “note to self” because: A – the voice recognition is better on phone; B – The phone gives audio feedback at beginning and end of recording so you don’t have to watch the screen; C – If you have your phone set up to send note-to-self to google keep, then it saves not only the transcription but also the recording… which is fantastic for unscrambling garbled transcriptions and again relieves me of the burden to watch the screen while I’m dictating to make sure the note is captured correctly (as long as I hear the google say “ok” acknowledging completion of the note…I know I’ll be able to read it or listen to it later).

5a. Item 5 also could be viewed as a negative in that it gives you more opportunity to get lost in your tech, and also could alienate people around you if you do it in their presence. Depends on your attitude/approach. I have to remind myself that interacting with my watch when someone else is around (or in a meeting) is socially equivalent to using my phone in the same situation.

6. Flashlight app. It’s right there if you need it (uses the screen painted white). It's not hugely bright, but plenty of light to find your way around the house at night or maybe help you find a keyhole.

7. “Look Behind”. Use your watch to see what your phone’s camera is looking at. The marketing suggests you could put your phone in your back pocket to spy on people behind you. But it’s also handy for taking a look at hard to get to places (underneath the sink etc). And can shine the flash. If you want to initiate taking a photo from your watch (like a remote shutter), you can use the free google camera app instead.

PHILOSOPHICAL VIEW: The watch makes your phone functionality a hair more accessible in many situations. In the spectrum between phone-alone and Google glass, the combination of phone-plus-watch is a few percent of the way from phone-alone towards google glass. You don’t have to carry anything extra on your person (assuming you already carried a watch). The expense for a first-generation watch is relatively small (I got my brand new 1st gen moto 360 for $118 and upgraded to steel band for $11, shipping included in both numbers). When people ask me about the value of the watch, I don’t’ bother trying to explain the sum of multiple tiny conveniences, each of whose value is somewhat subjective and subject to personal preferences. Instead I just say that my watch is a cool toy that’s mildly functional as well. It is certainly true. It's understated imo on the "mildly functional" part, but at least no one can argue that I'm overstating the usefulness. And it still makes the watch sound interesting.

WHAT TYPE OF PEOPLE MIGHT LIKE IT: (To state the OBVIOUS): Techy people who enjoy finding new small capabilities for their phone will probably likewise enjoy a smartwatch. On the other hand, no-nonsense people who want a phone primarily for phone calls and a few other things and who dislike having to tweak their phone in any way (settings/options etc) ... probably won't care for a smartwatch.
 
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Here was a review of Android Wear Huwaei watch from an iphone user and (predictably) he was underwhelmed, but brings up some interesting discussion points.

His “pro’s” for the watch:
Pro 1 – Could glance at the watch in situations when it would be socially uncomfortable to glance at the phone.
Pro 2 – Could use the translation feature to help him during a conversation in antoher language.
Pro 3 - He didn’t have to take his phone out as often in crowded place which apparently made it less susceptible to being stolen.

Some con’s he mentions:
Con 1 – Confusing interface
Con 2 – It’s going to get better over time, but it’s also going to get obsolete quickly.


My thoughts regarding Pro 1, during meetings it’s a double-edged sword. You might get away with a peek at your watch or you might not. With my particular watch (Moto 360), display is not always on, so there is a deliberate action required to turn the screen on (tap it or move my hand to make the watchface vertical), followed by one second lag before the screen comes on for you to see it. It’s not a very discrete maneuver imo. I can set the screen to come on for notifications (which works great most of the time) but I’m a little uncomfortable with the display coming on during small meetings around a conference table because it’s a potential distraction for everyone, especially th. In those cases I think I’ll put the watch into theatre mode.

Another related scenario, when visiting my elderly mother, she sees my looking at my watch frequently, thinks I'm checking the time, and asks "are you in a hurry?". I told her about the smartwatch, but she forgets these things.

My thoughts on Pro 2 - that's not something I'm likely to use... illustrates that everyone finds different uses.

My thoughts regarding Pro 3 – It brings to mind another aspect. You’re less likely to drop your precious $500 big-screen phone if you’re not pulling it out on-the-go so often.

My thoughts regarding Con 1 – It does feel confusing for the first few days, but after that it’s fine. Like everything else, just takes some getting used to.

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One more use not mentioned before – fitness tracking. There are a number of forms that may take:
1 - Some people may like the built-in heart rate monitor and steps counter along with Moto Body app or Google fit which track how busy you’ve been.
2 – If you’ve got a Sony smartwatch 3 with gps, then you can probably use it to track your run without even taking your phone along,
3 – Even though my Moto 360 doesn’t have gps and doesn’t allow me to leave my phone at home during a run, I still find it’s a great running companion because it allows me to monitor my run from the watch and leave my phone in it’s protective holster where I don’t have to worry about dropping it. I use a Zephyr HxM chest b/t heart rate monitor and on my phone I have SportsTracker Pro (sportstracklive.com) app which records speed, route, heart rate flawlessly and allows you to save your complete run data to the cloud. Before I got my watch, I used to listen to the 60-second spoken updates and occasionally peek at my phone screen. Now I keep my phone in the protective holster the whole time and monitor the run continuously on my watch (especially heart rate…I continually adjust my speed to get my heart rate on target). I feel safer about my phone and I get more (continuous) feedback on my heartrate. I ran for a little over an hour with watch continuously on (brightness level 1), and chewed up a little less than 50% watch battery. So I could probably get close to 2 hours of continuous monitoring if I start fully charged…more than enough for my normal jog. If I went on a longer adventure I'd have to get in a habit of putting the watchface to sleep manually (the SportsTracker software disables the auto timeout feature). Two side notes to mention: 1- better have a steel band for jogging... leather wouldnt do so well when mixed with sweat; 2 - I do experience a glitch where every 10-15 minutes the indicated heart rate on watch jumps to an obviously-incorrect static reading, while indicated heart rate on phone still reads fine and continuously updating.... I think it's because the watch chooses at that time to display the cr*ppy rarely-updated moto 360 heart rate signal instead of my accurate continuously-updated Zephyr heart rate signal.... when the glitch occurs I can fix it by swiping right all the way to the watchface screen and then swiping back left on the notification to reopen the run-monitoring displays which are now refreshed with the correct and continuously-updated heart rate value.
 
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