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ive been on fi since the first invites and have not gone over my 2gb plan.

of course its obvious i dont use much data and i am 95% around wifi spots when i need to access data so this plan is just amazing.

fi will only get better. they have to start somewhere and they cant compete with the big 2 or the big 3 just yet, but they are changing the way customers should be billed for data/voice and that only encourages healthy competition.
 
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ive been on fi since the first invites and have not gone over my 2gb plan.

of course its obvious i dont use much data and i am 95% around wifi spots when i need to access data so this plan is just amazing.

fi will only get better. they have to start somewhere and they cant compete with the big 2 or the big 3 just yet, but they are changing the way customers should be billed for data/voice and that only encourages healthy competition.

Hi, I just received my invite for Fi the other day, coincidentally, just after the new Nexus phones were announced, lol. My question is, do you still like Fi? What advantages & disadvantages have you seen with your continued use? And, finally, do you think it's worth it for me to switch from Big Red to Google and get the new 6P? I utilize approx 5Gb data per month (and this is a bit high for me because I've stopped using my home wifi connection temporarily). You're the only person I've seen on here so far that has been using it, so that's why I targeted you, lol. TIA.
 
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I love fi. It works for me because I don't use a lot of mobile data (i average less than a gig a month) because I'm around wifi nearly everywhere I need to use the phone for any length of time, plus I have an lte tablet that has a huge mobile data plan that I would use if I'm on the road.

The advantages are I get the best of both worlds (t-mobile and sprint are great in areas I travel) and whatever unused data gets credited back (i.e. You only pay for what you use).

The app to check on your data and such is a button press away as well.

I've been asked by many friends "should I switch?", and I always say it depends on a few things.

Depends on coverage of tmo and sprint in the areas you travel and the cost of the data plan vs, what you have.
 
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Thanks for the feedback. The monthly cost would be well below what I pay to Verizon each month. The unknown factor is the coverage. Sprint is terrible in my area (greater Baltimore); I know because I tried to leave Verizon before and went crawling back with my tail between my legs within 6 months. I've heard T-Mobile is good around here, but I've never gotten any specifics from anyone I know. What's Fi's policy on using the phone as a hot spot? I do that occasionally when I'm using my computer out in public.
 
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Thanks for the feedback. The monthly cost would be well below what I pay to Verizon each month. The unknown factor is the coverage. Sprint is terrible in my area (greater Baltimore); I know because I tried to leave Verizon before and went crawling back with my tail between my legs within 6 months. I've heard T-Mobile is good around here, but I've never gotten any specifics from anyone I know. What's Fi's policy on using the phone as a hot spot? I do that occasionally when I'm using my computer out in public.

The ideal way would seem to be to try Project Fi without porting your number, and not cancelling Verizon until you know Fi will work for you. That will depend on your situation and if you use a Google Voice number.

You can use a hotspot as much as you wish, it will just be counted as data that you are charged for. You can see the details here.
 
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I only found out about google fi recently. Signed up last week. If I had the ability to move to it today, I would try it. That being said I have a couple points of frustration already:

1) While the pricing is cheap-ish, it's not as cheap as it should be. In fact it's *more* expensive than my current plan with Ting (a Sprint MVNO). My wife and I are on a group plan and pay $48per month (on fi this will be 60$). The only reason I'm looking is because the coverage in our house is terrible and the sprint femtocell is an actual joke in hardware form. 20$ base fee for talk and text? That's extremely steep. No family plans/discounts? That's ridiculous. A current MVNO should *not* be able to offer services at a lower price than a new service that will have significantly lower operating costs. Fi will have a significant chunk of its calls/texts/data going over wifi (free for google other than scaling servers). Google's pricing of pay per use model is an excellent choice! However Ting has already embraced this and can offer at lower prices. If you're the new service on the block shouldn't you have a reason to switch?

2) Invite only? Still? I can understand this when the nexus 6 was the only supported phone. Clearly it's a proof of concept at that point. But this week google holds a conference and announces 2 more phones support google fi. Customers hype about the phones and google fi. Then customers realize they can't actually use those shiny new phones on google fi. This is a huge marketing failure on google's part as the customer gets hyped about the new phones then is told by google in the next breath "sorry only the cool kids are allowed on our network - you're an outcast". Huge. Marketing. Failure.

3) Zero visibility into when invites will be completed (bear with me). They have a customized message when you hit the google fi page to give you an estimate of how long it will be. This was a great idea that failed in execution. Most people stare at "We're still determining your status. Check back here in a week for an update." message for weeks. If people are lucky enough to get a week range, they might watch it dwindle from 6-8 weeks, down to 1-2 weeks, and then skyrocketing back up to 12 weeks or more. What's the point of a status bar that doesn't communicate status? Get rid of it and don't misinform (frustrate) your customers.

Am I going to switch? The only reason I'm considering it is the poor reception in my house. If sprint had a femtocell that was worth it's weight in salt I wouldn't even be considering it because i have a better deal already. Despite the disadvantages listed above I'm still planning on trying it out if google ever lets me be one of the cool kids because I am willing to pay a little bit more for reliable wifi calling/texting. Then i won't have to mess with a femtocell at all, i can just use my wireless I'm already paying for.

Lastly, holding a conference and releasing sweet new phones for google fi and then telling everyone "dont worry we'll have all the invites out and completed by *mid-summer* is an epic marketing failure. By the time you release new phones to hype google fi it should no longer be invite - period. It should be open to the public.

This is additionally frustrating because google could have prevented some of this by letting invites expire. We all know there are people who have invites and aren't using them. Some people even *want* to give them away because they know others are waiting. If google were to expire the invite after 2 weeks, those invites would be in a constant cycle of being given to users that will use the service, provide cash flow, provide feedback and in general get this service up faster.
 
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I only found out about google fi recently. Signed up last week. If I had the ability to move to it today, I would try it. That being said I have a couple points of frustration already:

1) While the pricing is cheap-ish, it's not as cheap as it should be. In fact it's *more* expensive than my current plan with Ting (a Sprint MVNO). My wife and I are on a group plan and pay $48per month (on fi this will be 60$). The only reason I'm looking is because the coverage in our house is terrible and the sprint femtocell is an actual joke in hardware form. 20$ base fee for talk and text? That's extremely steep. No family plans/discounts? That's ridiculous. A current MVNO should *not* be able to offer services at a lower price than a new service that will have significantly lower operating costs. Fi will have a significant chunk of its calls/texts/data going over wifi (free for google other than scaling servers). Google's pricing of pay per use model is an excellent choice! However Ting has already embraced this and can offer at lower prices. If you're the new service on the block shouldn't you have a reason to switch?

There are a couple of points to be made here. First, since Google is paying for the actual price of the data, they aren't making money off of unused data. Even on Ting, from what I recall, you still buy "buckets" (even if the bucket can be quite small) of data and don't get credit back for any of the data you don't use. On top of this, Google is working with two different carriers and also has data roaming, which -- particularly with roaming -- costs more for the additional coverage.

It likely could be cheaper, if Google really wanted to, but the other side is they aren't wanting lots of customers as, since this is a "beta" or, as you put it, "proof of concept". Having a higher price per MB helps control the number of customers that will seek to switch to Project Fi.

2) Invite only? Still? I can understand this when the nexus 6 was the only supported phone. Clearly it's a proof of concept at that point. But this week google holds a conference and announces 2 more phones support google fi. Customers hype about the phones and google fi. Then customers realize they can't actually use those shiny new phones on google fi. This is a huge marketing failure on google's part as the customer gets hyped about the new phones then is told by google in the next breath "sorry only the cool kids are allowed on our network - you're an outcast". Huge. Marketing. Failure.

Since you seem to accept it was valid for invite only originally, I won't address that part of it. Instead, I'll say that the invite system now seems to be more to control the geographical location of where users sign up. For example, they may be using it to control the total number of customers they have in particular areas. I suspect this is particularly true in "fringe" areas where Sprint and/or T-Mobile coverage is weak.

3) Zero visibility into when invites will be completed (bear with me). They have a customized message when you hit the google fi page to give you an estimate of how long it will be. This was a great idea that failed in execution. Most people stare at "We're still determining your status. Check back here in a week for an update." message for weeks. If people are lucky enough to get a week range, they might watch it dwindle from 6-8 weeks, down to 1-2 weeks, and then skyrocketing back up to 12 weeks or more. What's the point of a status bar that doesn't communicate status? Get rid of it and don't misinform (frustrate) your customers.

I do believe much of the reason initially, for lack of clear ideas when invites would be extended, was to ensure Project Fi was up and running properly and not to overload their systems. I agree they should be through that phase, though they still may be trying to insure they don't grow Project Fi too quickly for their current size.

However, I think the invite "hold up" is now largely based on my answer to #2 -- how well T-Mobile and Sprint work in the area where the person is wanting service. Both T-Mobile and Sprint are doing a lot of work on improving their network and expanding LTE service into areas that may only be 2G currently. I suspect that, rather than just flat out decline people, they instead (for people in weak service areas) waiting for T-Mobile or Sprint to "fix" those areas. Since T-Mobile and Sprint likely aren't giving frequent updates, they can't give exact promises of when they might invite people in those areas.

My theory is based partially on how most seem to have gotten their invites by now, and many who have requested an invite in the last week have gotten the invite the same or next day.

Am I going to switch? The only reason I'm considering it is the poor reception in my house. If sprint had a femtocell that was worth it's weight in salt I wouldn't even be considering it because i have a better deal already. Despite the disadvantages listed above I'm still planning on trying it out if google ever lets me be one of the cool kids because I am willing to pay a little bit more for reliable wifi calling/texting. Then i won't have to mess with a femtocell at all, i can just use my wireless I'm already paying for.

Lastly, holding a conference and releasing sweet new phones for google fi and then telling everyone "dont worry we'll have all the invites out and completed by *mid-summer* is an epic marketing failure. By the time you release new phones to hype google fi it should no longer be invite - period. It should be open to the public.

This is additionally frustrating because google could have prevented some of this by letting invites expire. We all know there are people who have invites and aren't using them. Some people even *want* to give them away because they know others are waiting. If google were to expire the invite after 2 weeks, those invites would be in a constant cycle of being given to users that will use the service, provide cash flow, provide feedback and in general get this service up faster.

And your specific situation makes me think I have close to the right explanation. My understanding is that pretty much everyone that requested an invite got one. Perhaps in your case something has gone wrong -- I'd suggest you might try reaching Project Fi and let them know -- you may have one of those "growing pain" issues that they are trying to solve, part of the reason for the invite system.

OTOH, I suspect it might have something to do with being in a weak Sprint area and that T-Mobile may not be much better. Particularly if Sprint (or T-Mobile) had stated they are going to improve service in your area "soon", Fi may be waiting to issue an invitation until they know service in your area has been improved.
 
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I just found out about this Project and sent in for an 'Invite.' Live in Los Angeles, where I see full 4G coverage. I received confirmation for my request and told to check back in a few weeks. Is Google still limiting the number of subscribers, or is there a good chance I'll get to join? I need a new mobile provider fast, and preordered the Nexus 5X to use specifically for Project Fi.
 
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I just found out about this Project and sent in for an 'Invite.' Live in Los Angeles, where I see full 4G coverage. I received confirmation for my request and told to check back in a few weeks. Is Google still limiting the number of subscribers, or is there a good chance I'll get to join? I need a new mobile provider fast, and preordered the Nexus 5X to use specifically for Project Fi.

It sounds like you should get an invite. They seem to be limiting somewhat, though I'm guessing it is more the rate of growth they are trying to control, not limit the total number of customers.

I know with the new Nexus phones coming out they had several people sign up for invites. They also likely had people like me; I've had an invite since June but decided to wait for the new Nexus to be released, especially since the price of the old Nexus 6 was still high when I got my invite. I finally accepted the invite, along with an order for a new Nexus. So I'm guessing you'll get an invite, just a matter of processing the new subscribers and seeing how many of the outstanding invites are accepted.
 
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You know on average how long it takes now to get an Invite?

No idea. I know back in May/June it was taking a month or more. OTOH, on Sep 29 (day of Google event) there are people who claim to have signed up and had their invite within 24 hours.

I'm going to guess a few weeks to a month -- but that is merely a guess. A lot likely depends on how many requested invites with the release of the two new phones that can be used on Project Fi.
 
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im in Los angeles and i can tell you the fi network is choice. i usually hang out in hollywood and live near burbank and am always in constant lte. i use signal check pro to see what network i am on and just to tell any difference and the hand offs, when they happen, are soft and painless when im on phone conversations (hands free of course whilst in the ride!)

i have an app for the moto 360 that zaps my wrist when im changing carriers as im driving around and its amazing how many times you go betwixt carriers on your daily travels.

i was on the first batch of invites so i have a pretty good feel for the network. i had the nexus 6 since launch last year and have had no issues (i came from being with sprint since 1998).
 
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Really good points Mogelijk especially on Google doing a much finer grain "bucket" of pay per usage than ting provides on data. I do really like paying per MB that Fi provides instead of bigger sized buckets Ting provides in the data category.

However, that being said, Ting also buckets voice and texting. Even though Ting's buckets are "big", since I do next to zero voice and texting, it is attractive to me to pay those low buckets where as with Fi it's a flat $20 for something i almost never use. Fi does not follow the pay for usage model with voice and text. If Fi would consider a pay per usage on calling and texting as well to try to bring that $20 flat fee down, I'd be much more receptive to Fi's pricing model.

On other other points you made I agree with them all. I guess you could simplify most of my rambling to one statement: I wish they would have removed the invite requirement before the marketed the next Fi capable phones.

For the person asking about invite wait time for people requesting now, I requested last week and this week it tells me 3-4 week wait time. I am in the middle of SC. That being said, temper your expectations. From my research those timelines are not to be trusted.
 
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So my issue is, if I get an invitation, I need FOUR of them as I want to move my entire family over to Project Fi. My VZW bill will go to $420 per month in mid-November as they are charging an extra $20 per line for those of us still on unlimited data. Do anyone know how Fi will handle this situation?
 
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one invite=one person.

those other folks will need to sign up for their own invites. there are no family plans currently on fi and each account will be separate.

you can use other new gmail accounts to sign up if those other folks in your family dont have gmail.

https://fi.google.com/about/faq/

We all do have gmail accounts. Thanks for the information. :)

I got my invitation today...it took 10 days.
 
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....but I'm now leaning towards Ting.com, after someone else in this forum mentioned it, gives you more variety of devices too. Debating.
Price wise it depends on your usage. Project Fi will be a better deal if you use lots of minutes and texts, plus you don't buy any unused data. Hopefully Fi will allow more phones sometime.

Ting can be pretty cheap if you don't use many minutes and/or mobile data. They also let you add several phones to one account so if you want a family plan it could end up costing less then Fi (again depending on usage).
 
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