The "Linux questions (and other stuff)" thread

AZgl1500 · Dec 7, 2016

Bg260 said:
I was talking about the automatic fly-out on hover. It's new in 18.1. I'd rather click to open.
18.1 is only Beta right now. It should be official any day now.

oh, I have that "feature" turned off thank you.

I agree, click on it to open it up..... otherwise, it is a royal pain in the ass

Father Guido · Dec 17, 2016

Bg260 said:
I was talking about the automatic fly-out on hover. It's new in 18.1. I'd rather click to open.
18.1 is only Beta right now. It should be official any day now.

It was released yesterday. Updated my Sarah to Serena in only minutes from the command line on my main Linux box. While not the best distro for the diehard Debian folks, it's WAY better than Windows. Fixed a minor issue that I had while scrolling in Firefox too

Bg260 · Dec 17, 2016

Father Guido said:
It was released yesterday. Updated my Sarah to Serena in only minutes from the command line on my main Linux box. While not the best distro for the diehard Debian folks, it's WAY better than Windows. Fixed a minor issue that I had while scrolling in Firefox too

So you're a Debian? How about Linux Mint Debian Edition?

Also, I don't suppose you'd like to share the aforementioned command line? The "Internet" says we won't be able to do that until months end.

Father Guido · Dec 18, 2016

Bg260 said:
So you're a Debian? How about Linux Mint Debian Edition?

Actually I'm not, but some prefer the latest (non-Ubuntu core) package(s)/updates. Thanks for the link tho

Also, I don't suppose you'd like to share the aforementioned command line? The "Internet" says we won't be able to do that until months end.

Credits go to poster Yousif Anwar over here. I just copy/pasted his commands in a terminal.

sudo sed -i 's/sarah/serena/g' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list
Press Enter.
Then you update the packages list:
sudo apt-get update
Then you perform the actual upgrade:
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

I recall needing to do similar when I upgraded my 17.x to 18 (though it took much longer).

Bg260 · Dec 18, 2016

Upgrading! You are the man @Father Guido. How many of these "backport mirrors" exist? I'll have to concede that you're better than me at finding these obscure gems.

mikedt · Jan 11, 2017

Ubuntu for China.
http://www.ubuntukylin.com/

Does anyone actually use this in this country? NO!

Sorry Mark Shuttleworth, you got to try harder if you want to beat Microsoft.

bcrichster · Jan 11, 2017

mikedt said:
Ubuntu for China.
http://www.ubuntukylin.com/

Does anyone actually use this in this country? NO!

Sorry Mark Shuttleworth, you got to try harder if you want to beat Microsoft.

They all build on Windows?! That's like shoveling light snow with a rake.. While it's raining. [emoji41]

bcrichster · Jan 13, 2017

I don't think Mint 18.1 is ready for Android building.. So much grief. Actually demanded I edit my kernel a specific way and when I did, it won't build right. Same exact files I built perfectly fine on 17.3.. Going back to 17.3 tomorrow [emoji36]

AZgl1500 · Jan 14, 2017

bcrichster said:
I don't think Mint 18.1 is ready for Android building.. So much grief. Actually demanded I edit my kernel a specific way and when I did, it won't build right. Same exact files I built perfectly fine on 17.3.. Going back to 17.3 tomorrow [emoji36]

you just talked me out of changing from 17.3 to 18.1
here I was thinking it is the "new Cat's Meow" and come to find out, 17.3 is still a great OS to keep using.

bcrichster · Jan 14, 2017

AZgl1500 said:
you just talked me out of changing from 17.3 to 18.1
here I was thinking it is the "new Cat's Meow" and come to find out, 17.3 is still a great OS to keep using.

It is a beautiful OS without a doubt. If I wasn't trying to compile Android, I'd still be using it. It's perfect in all the ways that don't matter to building. [emoji41] I really hate the non cosmetic overhaul tho, borked the most crucial aspects of my needs.. A stable build environment for someone who doesn't know enough to deal with this new Picasso style coding. [emoji23] (I say Picasso only because I don't understand it and like the new Mint, I'm certain it has it's misunderstood/unknown advantages.)

Deleted User · Jan 14, 2017

bcrichster said:
I don't think Mint 18.1 is ready for Android building.. So much grief. Actually demanded I edit my kernel a specific way and when I did, it won't build right. Same exact files I built perfectly fine on 17.3.. Going back to 17.3 tomorrow [emoji36]

Ooh that's a deal breaker for me. But I still maintain that Ubuntu 16.04 LTS is one superb O/S. Does absolutely everything I need.

Dngrsone · Jan 14, 2017

Someone has managed to find a workaround for the one feature I want to keep in KDE, so I may install Mint 18.1 KDE again and try it out.

AZgl1500 · Jan 14, 2017

I have never tried any of the desktops except for Cinnamon.

What is it about KDE that draws you to it?

Dngrsone · Jan 14, 2017

I like having multiple desktops with different wallpapers and shortcuts on each. KDE 4.x has this, but the developers eliminated it in 5.

Sure, I could live without it, but I'd rather have it. The xfce desktop allows the separate wallpapers (and the built-in file manager, thunar, has the best mass-rename function for music files), but KDEs Plasma desktop is much more flexible.

AZgl1500 · Jan 14, 2017

dumkoff question,

can two desktops be run on the same Linux install?

ie, KDE and Cinnamon?

Dngrsone · Jan 14, 2017

You can, but KDE doesn't work well with others.

bcrichster · Jan 14, 2017

Back on Mint 17.3 and things seem to be building/going much better..

Dngrsone · Jan 17, 2017

I must hate myself... I just added another OS to my laptop: Mint 18 KDE

I get to do another set-up, install software, import data... all the fun stuff.

Bg260 · Jan 17, 2017

Here's what you need @Dngrsone

https://flash.newegg.com/Product/9SIA5AD4ZU4417

Dngrsone · Jan 17, 2017

LOL, that will definitely not fit into my laptop.

I have enough space, just not a fan of having to reinstall a bunch of applications, add-ons, reconfigure things, etc.

There are some compelling reasons to move up to the latest KDE: Bluetooth for a start: my MX Master will not work with Mint 17.x and the xfce I am using right now doesn't work with my headset.

I am asking myself right now why I insist on using separate Documents folders for each OS. Talk about unnecessary copying of data...

Bg260 · Jan 17, 2017

I saw that and had a "Good Lord!" moment. I have a 480 GB SSD for my OS's and one dedicated 1Tb Spinner for /home and another for D:\
Talk about confusing, but I did think about the possibility of a 5Tb.... briefly.

Dngrsone · Jan 17, 2017

I'd think about that for my NAS, but I don't think my 2TB one is half-full yet...

Bg260 · Jan 17, 2017

It the words of @Father Guido (or close enough) I've got my own personal cloud.

Dngrsone · Jan 18, 2017

Well, the hardest part so far was trying to pick the right wallpapers... can have the same ones from the other OSs, 'cause then I might be confused where I am.

Plenty left for me to do though: I am going to try getting my Bluetooth devices to work, then I have to install my other applications (Calibre, Clementine, tethering app, et al), and then we will see if I can get LAMPS and PHPMyAdmin to work: that was a major failure on Mint 18 xfce.

bcrichster · Jan 18, 2017

Dngrsone said:
Well, the hardest part so far was trying to pick the right wallpapers... can have the same ones from the other OSs, 'cause then I might be confused where I am.

Plenty left for me to do though: I am going to try getting my Bluetooth devices to work, then I have to install my other applications (Calibre, Clementine, tethering app, et al), and then we will see if I can get LAMPS and PHPMyAdmin to work: that was a major failure on Mint 18 xfce.

For USB tether, you won't need an app if you're running Custom OS (CM, AOSP) on your device.. Just enable in settings. For stock, I use USBTetherPro.apk ..pretty good.

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