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Old October 11th, 2012, 08:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey y'all, this is my first post on this website (or any android site for that matter) and im hoping to get some good info.

I recently (1 week tomorrow) switched to the Droid Razr (ICS 4.0.4) after 1.5 years of having the Droid X. I chose this phone heavily on its price--yes the maxx has better battery etc but i want the benefits to overpower that. Long story short, i always wanted to root--although i never did, mostly because, IMO, i felt the X was shitty to begin with. Through research based on this site (mostly stickys), i was able to root my droid quite quickly and easily. I followed the guidelines and downloaded/upgraded what looked to be the most basic apps (Titanium Backup, SuperSU, ZipSigner2, and of course SetCPU). Since i rooted, i've changed absolutely nothing on these apps for the sole reason to not screw anything up (unless it was part of the root/backup process). I created backup files through TiB but thats it.

The only thing i want out of my RAZR, at the MOMENT, is the enhanced battery/CPU performance. Right now, I DO NOT want to mess with any ROM other than the original, but thats only because i am NOOB and dont have the time to monitor something like that (yet). Along with increased battery life, a maintained phone speed/temperature would be ideal, but, if i can increase the cpu speed as well, ill take that any day.

So now that you know (roughly) what im looking for, what im asking is this:

1.) What (if any) apps should also be downloaded before i move on?
2.) What (if anything) needs to be removed from my phone?
3.) For an increased battery life, but with speed and temperature of the phone for the most part unchanged, what settings/preferences/governors/etc need to be utilized or downloaded on SetCPU (on ICS 4.0.4 original ROM)
4.) If possible, id like some example settings that some of you are using for setcpu (or anything mentioned really)

I understand there are guides to this (ive read them) but, again, im noob, im not sure what they mean by most of it. Also, I still have my Droid X--I'll be experimenting on my own with it. Best Regards to all

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Old October 11th, 2012, 08:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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1) ROM Toolbox Pro I feel is necessary
2) Freeze all the Verizon apps if you don't use them and maybe the games you don't use like stupid Let's Golf! 2 and Madden 12
3 & 4) What i run on non stock ROMs that shoukd also work on stock -

ROM Toolbox set to 1200 MHz max and 300 MHz min with smartassV2 governor
Profiles at charging/full with 1200 MHz max and 1000 MHz min
Battery <100% with 1200 MHz max and 1000 MHz min
Battery <30% with 1200 MHz max and 800 MHz min
Screen Off with 500 MHz max and 300 MHz min
All with smartassV2 governor and 50 priority

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CPU Sleeper Pro (Dual Core Obviously)

And Smart Actions data off during my school time, set from 7:40 to 2:06

To me this gives the best battery life, although I haven't used or tried any other governor or stuff. Apparently from what I've seen many people use HotplugX or whatever its called. I just use this because I always used to use smartass as the governor on my little old LG Ally. But anyways, that's my setup
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Remember that just because certain cpu speeds are stable on one phone doesn't mean they will be on every phone.

Make sure that you don't hit set at boot until you are absolutely sure that it's stable. If you do and your phone gets stuck in a endless reboot cycle you're screwed.
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remember that just because certain cpu speeds are stable on one phone doesn't mean they will be on every phone.
Sorry, i was in a rush and needed to get my post out--let me clarify what i meant. Im under the impression i originally posted in the RAZR/RAZR MAXX root forum. When i mentioned my Droid X, i made it sound like i was going to use the same settings on my RAZR as i would my X. The full plan is this-- since i still have my X (now worthless), i plan to get rooting practice on it before i do anything major with my RAZR. I'll even take it to the limit with its performance once i've gained enough experience for the general process (i have a history of literally blowing up old phones that i hate).

That said, are you saying that each RAZR will be/act different due to manufacturing reasons (date built, OS, etc.)? Or, are you saying that the specific settings im asking for will have a significantly different impact on my phone purely because I do not have the same ROM/apps/settings/etc. as they do? For the most part, I just want an idea of what people use, and furthermore, why they do it. This will help me determine how i should start my rooting career. Hopefully, this thread (and website) will guide me through a simple and easy (yet efficient) process that will increase my phones performance.

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make sure that you don't hit set at boot until you are absolutely sure that it's stable. If you do and your phone gets stuck in a endless reboot cycle you're screwed.
Thanks for the heads up. I was wondering what the checkbox next to that meant. Like i said before, i dont plan on changing/doing anything too, too major, but i know i eventually will. Given what I do at school, I dont think this will be a hard process, but a lengthy one (one i can make occasional time for). The lengthy part is learning all this stuff, and you just made it that much easier. Thanks!
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What I mean by my statement was that even if you put two of the same stock rooted phones next to each other, one may be stable at 1.8ghz( my droid x was lmao, but the battery was 120 degrees) But the other phone might only be stable up to 1.3ghz. Every phone acts differently for some reason.
I suggest you look into flashing roms. It seems to scarier than it is look at this thread bradenfontaine and I wrote up over at Android Central http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=211222

It tells you everything you need to know ow about rooting/flashing roms and using safestrap.

Using safestrap makes it almost impossible to brick your phone because you are basically saving your original system and it creates a second partition which you are flashing on so you don't touch anything that will screw it up. Think of it as dual booting a pc or Mac.
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1) ROM Toolbox Pro I feel is necessary
Seems legit. I am looking into it. Did you download anything more than that, or do you use what they give you?

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2) Freeze all the Verizon apps if you don't use them and maybe the games you don't use like stupid Let's Golf! 2 and Madden 12
When i got my phone, the first thing I did was try to uninstall any VZ/3rd party app i knew i wouldnt use/want/need through the [unrooted] phone. Obviously i cannot simply uninstall some things directly--another reason i wanted to root. I just wish there was like a formal/informal list of things i can freeze/delete from my phone without it having any of the adverse effects on the phone. Until i find more info, i wont even go as far as freezing (although it will be done it time!!!!!)

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3 & 4) What i run on non stock ROMs that shoukd also work on stock -

ROM Toolbox set to 1200 MHz max and 300 MHz min with smartassV2 governor
Profiles at charging/full with 1200 MHz max and 1000 MHz min
Battery <100% with 1200 MHz max and 1000 MHz min
Battery <30% with 1200 MHz max and 800 MHz min
Screen Off with 500 MHz max and 300 MHz min
All with smartassV2 governor and 50 priority
Very cool. What ROM do you currently use? I'm not sure you've used this on stock, but i would also assume these settings would not hurt my phone, especially considering these settings' numbers dont look much different than SetCPU's defaults.

One problem i personally have with phones is wanting to check the time (i know i need a watch) or to see if i have a text. This kills the battery life, and when i get to about 20% i tend to stop/slow down. My question is this: When my battery DOES get low, and considering my habits, wouldnt it be better to lower the frequency, i.e. Battery <20% w/ 1000 MHz max and ~800 min? I don't know what the default parameters should be for any rooted/unrooted phone (stock ROM or not). I kind of wish i knew the electrical/computer science engineer that made my phone. It'd be nice if he knew everything root and would just do it for me for free. But no...i personally dont know a damn soul who roots.

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CPU Sleeper Pro (Dual Core Obviously)
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And Smart Actions data off during my school time, set from 7:40 to 2:06
I personally have not messed with the app but thats because i assumed it did its so called magic on its own. That said, although i understand what it does, i dont know what its capable of. What does turning it off do (or literally not do) for you?

One thing i do want to point out is this--one of the first things i ever read about root mentioned something about NOT using smart actions if you are rooted. I may have read it wrong (i usually do) but thats the gist i got. I havent touched the app since. What do you think?

Thank you so much for posting, what you have given me seems like a good starting point for trial and error. Like i said, down the road, when i finally graduate I am going to keep up with the android phone market; for right now I'm going to figure out (for the most part) how to make my phone badass and rub it in my girlfriend's (iPhone loser) face
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Seems legit. I am looking into it. Did you download anything more than that, or do you use what they give you?


When i got my phone, the first thing I did was try to uninstall any VZ/3rd party app i knew i wouldnt use/want/need through the [unrooted] phone. Obviously i cannot simply uninstall some things directly--another reason i wanted to root. I just wish there was like a formal/informal list of things i can freeze/delete from my phone without it having any of the adverse effects on the phone. Until i find more info, i wont even go as far as freezing (although it will be done it time!!!!!)



Very cool. What ROM do you currently use? I'm not sure you've used this on stock, but i would also assume these settings would not hurt my phone, especially considering these settings' numbers dont look much different than SetCPU's defaults.

One problem i personally have with phones is wanting to check the time (i know i need a watch) or to see if i have a text. This kills the battery life, and when i get to about 20% i tend to stop/slow down. My question is this: When my battery DOES get low, and considering my habits, wouldnt it be better to lower the frequency, i.e. Battery &lt;20% w/ 1000 MHz max and ~800 min? I don't know what the default parameters should be for any rooted/unrooted phone (stock ROM or not). I kind of wish i knew the electrical/computer science engineer that made my phone. It'd be nice if he knew everything root and would just do it for me for free. But no...i personally dont know a damn soul who roots.


Are you using something from ROM Toolbox or are you using something else on its own?


I'll google that


I personally have not messed with the app but thats because i assumed it did its so called magic on its own. That said, although i understand what it does, i dont know what its capable of. What does turning it off do (or literally not do) for you?

One thing i do want to point out is this--one of the first things i ever read about root mentioned something about NOT using smart actions if you are rooted. I may have read it wrong (i usually do) but thats the gist i got. I havent touched the app since. What do you think?

Thank you so much for posting, what you have given me seems like a good starting point for trial and error. Like i said, down the road, when i finally graduate I am going to keep up with the android phone market; for right now I'm going to figure out (for the most part) how to make my phone badass and rub it in my girlfriend's (iPhone loser) face

ROM Toolbox Pro is amazing! It has CPU control with profiles, app manager which will allow you to back up, uninstall, and freeze any app, it has ad blocker, scripter, boot logo and animation manager. Its like everything you need. CPU sleeper is amazing too. I currently am on Nx 1.5.1 as my ROM, but might go to Simplex 1.3 because that had UNREAL battery life, but idk, I might need to wipe battery stats. And lastly, I always use smart actions. Its no different when your phone is rooted than if it was unrooted. For CPU control, I have a RAZR Maxx so I don't drop down to 1 GHz but you can if you like That's all I got
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