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Old December 10th, 2012, 12:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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First off, let me just say that I have been quite unsuccessful at getting CWM to work. I also am new to this, so I could be doing something wrong.

I picked up this phone on Black Friday for $30, what a steal! I am excited to get started in a new community and get the ball rolling for custom recoveries and ROMs. Since there hasn't been any progress on getting CWM onto the Rise, I decided to take up the helm myself and figure out what works and what doesn't work.

So far, this is what I have attempted:
-- I have made backups of recovery, boot, system just in case I screw something up. At the moment, only the recovery backup does me any good, because if I screw up boot or system, and can't boot into Android, I have no adb.
-- Wiped recovery/boot to try and get into fastboot. DONT DO THIS! You will end up with a bootlooping paperweight. So far, fastboot is out of reach.
-- adb reboot fastboot/bootloader and adb reboot-bootloader just reboot the phone normally.
-- Unpacked and then repacked recovery.img and used dd to push it to the phone. Failed to boot into recovery, it just rebooted itself back into Android.
-- Unpacked boot.img and placed the kernel from there into recovery.img. Same thing.
-- Built kernel from Kyocera's sources. placed that into stock recovery.img. Failed to boot into recovery.
-- Built CWM from source using the kernel extracted from the recovery.img. Again, failed to boot into recovery.
-- Built CWM from source using the kernel built from source. Still failed to boot into recovery.
-- Flashed boot.img to /recovery, just to see if it would do anything, and surprisingly enough it booted straight into Android. Before it was attempting to boot into recovery, then it would reboot the phone again, which brought it to Android. Replacing the recovery partition with the boot.img boots straight into Android without any reboots. This might be a clue, maybe not. I'd assume that recovery.img on the /boot partition would boot the phone into stock recovery every time the phone is rebooted.
-- I emailed Kyocera about how to unlock the bootloader. This was their response:
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We are sorry to hear about the difficulties you are experiencing and appreciate the opportunity to assist you.

There are ways to unlock the boot loader but we do not recommend doing so as it will violate our company's agreement with Virgin Mobile. We apologize for the inconvenience.
Maybe if we keep emailing them, they'll tell us.

If anybody has any ideas, I'm willing to try them out, I still have another testing phone just sitting here. If anybody knows a dev who would be willing to port CWM, I could send the dev my testing phone. Let's get this ball rolling!

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Thanks for the info.

I'm surprised more devs aren't jumping on this cheap phone. I mean it runs the same CPU/GPU class as the one v and reverb, and can be had for $29.99.

On my other device, the Acer a100, we needed to flash an a200 bootloader to unlock. As the a100 doesn't respond to the unlock command. I don't know if kyocera locks all of its bootloaders, or if a different device's bootloader would even work on the rise. But that's the only idea I have.
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The only immediate phone that i can think of that could possibly be interchangeable like that is the Kyocera Hydra. Basically they are the same phones, just one is waterproof and one has a keyboard. When one is unlocked and customized, most likely the other will too.
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Well, I just ran another test based on a theory. So the hydro is our sister phone, supposedly the same phone, just different bodies. I took the recovery and boot partitions from the hydro and flashed them onto the recovery partition of my rise. They both booted fine, with a small graphics quirk. The recovery screen was upside down, and the phone screen would flip upside down after the screen was turned off. However, the touch controls were as if the screen was not flipped. This goes to show that the hydro and rise are pretty darn compatible, the only noticeable issue is that the graphics driver is a bit screwy.

What does this mean? Well, maybe we CAN get CWM successfully on the Rise and Hydro, the drivers and config need to be properly setup. I just don't know how to do that.
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I have a new Rise and I'd like to root my phone.

Please show us how you rooted your phone. Preferably a step by step guide, the more specific, the better ... I am sort of new to this.

thanks a million in advance!
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I have a new Rise and I'd like to root my phone.

Please show us how you rooted your phone. Preferably a step by step guide, the more specific, the better ... I am sort of new to this.

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Rooting, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
Follow the how to, use the normal method. After its rooted remove supersu, if it installed it. Supersu will not work.
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Hey dude, I just got the rise too, and i have to say it was quite a steal for $30. I have managed to get into stock recovery, and have backups of my system, but cannot seem to get the recovery.img. I'm interested in helping with this, and have quite a bit of experience with building android and just messing around with Stock ROMs. If you could PM me a link to the recovery.img, or instructions on how to get it, that would be great.
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Hey so do you think there is a way to mod the stock recovery of the rise and be able to flash a cwm recovery as a update.zip and I know it wouldn't be a permanent recovery so we would have to flash the update.zip but then we could be able to back up and be able to flash safely ???
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Hey dude, I just got the rise too, and i have to say it was quite a steal for $30. I have managed to get into stock recovery, and have backups of my system, but cannot seem to get the recovery.img. I'm interested in helping with this, and have quite a bit of experience with building android and just messing around with Stock ROMs. If you could PM me a link to the recovery.img, or instructions on how to get it, that would be great.
The way I pulled a copy of my recovery.img was using dd.
[HIGH]//mmcblk0p15 = recovery block
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p15 of=/sdcard/recovery.img
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dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p8 of=/sdcard/boot.img[/HIGH]
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Hey so do you think there is a way to mod the stock recovery of the rise and be able to flash a cwm recovery as a update.zip and I know it wouldn't be a permanent recovery so we would have to flash the update.zip but then we could be able to back up and be able to flash safely ???
No, currently there is no way that I know of to mod the stock recovery. There is also no option in stock recovery for applying an update.zip. We also need a properly built CWM.
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The way I pulled a copy of my recovery.img was using dd.
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dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p8 of=/sdcard/boot.img[/HIGH]
Wow, I'm stupid. I spent hours trying to mount one of the partitions in Ubuntu, only to realize that it's impossible, and it wasn't even recovery. Anyways, using the right partition this time, i tried using The Online CWM Recovery Builder, and It built succesfully. I have no idea how to flash it to the recovery partition though, because i'm not familiar with flashing to partitions. How would i accomplish this, and how can i make/restore backups so i don't brick this thing?


Edit: I flashed the Recovery, and It wouldn't boot into recovery. Black screened until i let go of the buttons, then rebooted into android. Maybe Kyocera did lock the bootloader.....
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Rom manager should be able to flash it if its a cwm recovery you made but I'm not sure but yet again I think it would work
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Wow, I'm stupid. I spent hours trying to mount one of the partitions in Ubuntu, only to realize that it's impossible, and it wasn't even recovery. Anyways, using the right partition this time, i tried using The Online CWM Recovery Builder, and It built succesfully. I have no idea how to flash it to the recovery partition though, because i'm not familiar with flashing to partitions. How would i accomplish this, and how can i make/restore backups so i don't brick this thing?


Edit: I flashed the Recovery, and It wouldn't boot into recovery. Black screened until i let go of the buttons, then rebooted into android. Maybe Kyocera did lock the bootloader.....
Same thing happened for me. I manually built it using the ics tree, and automatically built it using the online builder which uses the jellybean tree. neither worked. Like you said, it just blackscreens and reboots. As i've stated, the boot and recovery images for the Rise and the Hydro both booth properly. It could be a simple fix, maybe not.

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Again, no. I HAVE flashed two custom builds of CWM, outside of rom manager, for the rise but neither booted. They just blackscreen and reboot. I've also flashed a few versions of stock that have just been repacked. Even if you used rom manager, there is no guarantee that it would flash. Most likely you could very easily just brick your phone.


I think I'm just going to go on a flashing spree to see if I can get a recovery to boot.
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Rom manager should be able to flash it if its a cwm recovery you made but I'm not sure but yet again I think it would work
ROM manager is a death trap for alot of devices. I would stay away from it like the plaque, and do everything with adb.
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ROM manager is a death trap for alot of devices. I would stay away from it like the plaque, and do everything with adb.
The only time I use ROM Manager is to flash CWM to my Optimus V, if I ever do anymore. I've been using Cannibal Open Touch for quite some time on it now, so I haven't touch ROM Manager for awhile. ADB and Terminal Emulator are my best friends.

Anyway, I still haven't had any luck getting a recovery to work. I'm stock out of ideas.
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Well when I was monkeying around it said if I had flashed a cwm based recovery click yes
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Well when I was monkeying around it said if I had flashed a cwm based recovery click yes
Just don't play with ROM Manager. ever. It's not a good idea, unless ROM Manager has a listing for the phone. If you picked a random phone model, then chose to flash the recovery, most likely it would not even flash to our recovery partition. This is because different phones have different partition setups. I've seen phones with the recovery on mmcblk0p15, mmcblk0p8, mmcblk0p17, etc. Other phones run on a different partition system altogether. You won't know what the harm is until it's been done.
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The only time I use ROM Manager is to flash CWM to my Optimus V, if I ever do anymore. I've been using Cannibal Open Touch for quite some time on it now, so I haven't touch ROM Manager for awhile. ADB and Terminal Emulator are my best friends.

Anyway, I still haven't had any luck getting a recovery to work. I'm stock out of ideas.
I emailed Kyocera, and they said i should contact Virgin Mobile about the bootloader, assuming it is locked. Virgin Mobile still hasnt responded. Guess im not really their priority right now.
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Symlink: /Volumes/Data/hudson/workspace/android/jellybean/out/target/product/C5155/recovery/root/sbin/depmod -> busy
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I've tried using that, it failed. I've posted about it already.
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Ok, so Virgin Mobile finally got around to emailing me, and they think i'm asking them about unlocking the phone to use it on other networks.....Maybe that's what Kyocera was thinking too. Anyways, I'll probably get around to replying to them today, but another reply will probably take them another 2-3 days.
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Hello you guys I would like to help out with the kyocera rise rom and kernel flashing I believe it is possible. If anyone can see this post get the app voxer and send me your voxeer name and we will get this working .
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Also, Virgin Mobile replied to me finally. They either have no clue what they're talking about, as i keep trying to explain to them that i don't want to unlock the phone, just the bootloader, or there actually isn't any bootloader lock. Either way, It looks like we're on our own with this one.
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Could we potentially unlock the bootloader the same way Nexus device's bootloaders are unlocked, since are Android is pretty much vanilla? (fastboot oem unlock or something like that)
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And here's a log of me booting into recovery
0 /tmp ramdisk (null) (null) 0
1 /sys_boot vfat /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 (null) 0
2 /boot emmc /dev/block/mmcblk0p8 (null) 0
3 /cache ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p13 (null) 0
4 /data ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p20 (null) 0
5 /recovery emmc /dev/block/mmcblk0p15 (null) 0
6 /sdcard vfat /dev/block/mmcblk1p1 /dev/block/mmcblk1 0
7 /system ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p12 (null) 0
8 /sysprop ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p17 (null) 0
9 /carrier ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p18 (null) 0

E:Cannot load volume /misc!
E:Cannot load volume /misc!
I:fopen_path 1 /data/fota/ipth-muc.prop
I:fopen_path 2 /data/fota/ipth-muc.prop
I:fopen_path 3 /data/fota/ipth-muc.prop
I:Failed to open /data/fota/ipth-muc.prop, use default pkg location:/cache/fota
Ielta package does not exist /cache/fota/ipth_package.bin
Command: "/sbin/recovery"

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ro.allow.mock.location=0
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ro.build.id=IML77
ro.build.display.id=IML77
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ro.build.version.sdk=15
ro.build.version.codename=REL
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ro.build.date=Fri Jun 29 18:31:08 JST 2012
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ro.build.type=user
ro.build.user=release
ro.build.host=release
ro.build.tags=release-keys
ro.product.model=C5155
ro.product.brand=kyocera
ro.product.name=C5155
ro.product.device=C5155
ro.product.board=C5155
ro.product.cpu.abi=armeabi-v7a
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To the op, I plan on working on this for the hydro, which is pretty similar specs. We need to get kyocera to unlock the bootloader.
As a group, we will need to repeatedly email them.
As for cwm, as soon as my hydro arrives I will start on it.

Fair warning, another well known developer was working on the hydro when it first came out, and ended up bricking it because of the secure boot and recovery. And he had ported cwm for the prevail and zte warp.
So lets get on kyocera, HTC has an unlock on their developer site, kyocera should also with persuasion.
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So lets get on kyocera, HTC has an unlock on their developer site, kyocera should also with persuasion.
This is partially true, while the htcdev site unlocks the bootloader to allow rom installs the bootloader still retains the s-on flag which will only allow signed radios and kernels to be flashed through recovery. Also some carriers (AT&T) force HTC to remove the meid's from the database so that you can't even use the partial bootloader unlock.
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This is partially true, while the htcdev site unlocks the bootloader to allow rom installs the bootloader still retains the s-on flag which will only allow signed radios and kernels to be flashed through recovery. Also some carriers (AT&T) force HTC to remove the meid's from the database so that you can't even use the partial bootloader unlock.
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Even if we do unlock and add cwm we don't have any flashable roms :/
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To the op, I plan on working on this for the hydro, which is pretty similar specs. We need to get kyocera to unlock the bootloader.
As a group, we will need to repeatedly email them.
As for cwm, as soon as my hydro arrives I will start on it.

Fair warning, another well known developer was working on the hydro when it first came out, and ended up bricking it because of the secure boot and recovery. And he had ported cwm for the prevail and zte warp.
So lets get on kyocera, HTC has an unlock on their developer site, kyocera should also with persuasion.
I don't know much how the recovery stuff works, but would something similar to how the bootstrap recovery works, work for us? It basically enables limited recovery on a bootloader locked device.

I don't see links to them, I'll upload the System.img, Recovery.img and Boot.img files so folks have them. I backed them up immediately after rooting and without doing anything else. Of course, the Recovery.img file is the only one of use, because if you kill the other two, theres not really any way to put them back. What I also found odd is that the stock recovery only has wipe data, wipe cache and reboot. There's not even the option of installing a signed update file. It seems that kyocera put this out as a throwaway phone for Virgin Mobile and doubtful they'll make any attempts to update anything (are there any non-throwaway phones by kyocera?). Since there are no updates available for my device, I haven't even been able to see how an update gets applied. Maybe theres something there to look at (if anyone has an updatable phone) to see how that gets applied and hijack it. Unlike the major android developers, I don't have confidence that kyocera has really locked anything down with any sincere effort, so maybe theres an option.
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Even if we do unlock and add cwm we don't have any flashable roms :/
Can't really make roms until we have a working CWM. Once CWM is available, people can start customizing the stock rom and maybe one day create ports from other devices (although unlikely due to this being a low activity device).
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I thought thne same thing about the no option to flash anything in recovery.. but then again the rise did get updated from 4.0.3 to 4.04
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I thought thne same thing about the no option to flash anything in recovery.. but then again the rise did get updated from 4.0.3 to 4.04
Do you know how the update happened? Did it download a file? What file? Did it reboot to recovery and flash the file? or did it just do it inside the OS? I'm wondering if someone could trigger the update but not flash it, maybe we can get the update file and path for some clue into how updates occur.
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I don't know much how the recovery stuff works, but would something similar to how the bootstrap recovery works, work for us? It basically enables limited recovery on a bootloader locked device.

I don't see links to them, I'll upload the System.img, Recovery.img and Boot.img files so folks have them. I backed them up immediately after rooting and without doing anything else. Of course, the Recovery.img file is the only one of use, because if you kill the other two, theres not really any way to put them back. What I also found odd is that the stock recovery only has wipe data, wipe cache and reboot. There's not even the option of installing a signed update file. It seems that kyocera put this out as a throwaway phone for Virgin Mobile and doubtful they'll make any attempts to update anything (are there any non-throwaway phones by kyocera?). Since there are no updates available for my device, I haven't even been able to see how an update gets applied. Maybe theres something there to look at (if anyone has an updatable phone) to see how that gets applied and hijack it. Unlike the major android developers, I don't have confidence that kyocera has really locked anything down with any sincere effort, so maybe theres an option.
Just because the option isn't there it can still flash ota updates.
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I'll make sure to look around. We need CWM to get a Custom Kernel! If we could just overclock this phone to 1.2-1.3 GHz, it'd be a beast (to me)
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Just emailed Kyocera.. now the bugging begins..
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Well if we can get the bootloader unlocked and build cwm, I will make an oc kernel. The source is similar to the warp sequent.
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My conversation with Live chat at Kyocera Tech support. Also sent emails to Sales and Support.

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Ron R: Thank you for contacting Kyocera technical support.
How may I help you today?
 
Ron R: For documentation purposes, may I please have your
full name and your phone number first?
 
You: *********************
 
Ron R: Thanks. How may I help you today?
You: Hello
You: I'm contacting you to see if the bootloader on the Rise will ever be unlocked?
You: It would be great to unlock the bootloader on the Rise. This could be a great selling phone if the Developement could continue. The kernel source was released (very nice), but with the locked down bootloader it is killing it. Its not Virgin Mobile locking down the bootloader it is Kyocera's choice. All the other Android suppliers are releasing ways to unlock there devices, as they see the potential of android developement to increase sales of a particular phone (see HTC). Please pass this along and allow developement on the Rise and its sister phones. Thanks for your time.
Ron R: Thank you. We have customers who also wanted to unlock the programming of the phone. The only thing is that if we try to, for example, root or unlock the software, that will automatically void the warranty with Virgin Mobile. For Kyocera phones, for example, the Kyocera/Sanyo Zio, you just need to press the up and down volume buttons together with the power button to enter download mode. For the Kyocera Rise, we actually locked the bootloader. If you press and hold the up and down volume buttons and the power button, you will enter safe mode.
You: I dont think we are concerned about voiding our warranties. Will entering safe mode help in unnlocking the bootloader? Ron R: As a troubleshooter I am actually not sure about it. But you can always try if that will work. Just press and hold the up and down volume buttons together with the power button to enter safe mode.
You: what is "safe" mode. Is the Zio's bootloader unlocked?
You: is safe mode the stock recovery console?
Ron R: Let me check my resources here. Hold on please.
Ron R: Thank you for waiting. The purpose of Safe Mode is for the system to remain unharmed if you are planning to run/install apps that may harm the system. Yes, the bootloader for the Zio is unlocked.
You: Thank you.
You: One last thing. I'm hoping you could pass it along to whoever, that there is a growing number of people that are trying to get the bootloader to be unlocked by Kyocera. Were hoping that enough of a push, kinda like what happened with HTC, will get them to release an unlock procedure. I bet is unlocked sales would get a good boost.
You: I do appreciate the information, Sir.
Ron R: Yes. We are already aware of that. We already escalated this case to our corporate office. You're welcome. Here is your reference number: *****. Is there anything else for today?
You: That is all. Have a great day.
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I also emailed them and they said it would be breaking their agreement with Virgin Mobile. But i think they thought i was talking about carrier unlocking it, so i emailed them again and further explained
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Well, you should also include that you understand that this will void warranty.
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i put something along those lines I think
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I also emailed them and they said it would be breaking their agreement with Virgin Mobile. But i think they thought i was talking about carrier unlocking it, so i emailed them again and further explained
The sad part is that you're probably right about the rep being confused , Virgin doesn't care about root, I've been on the phone numerous times with tier 1 and I told them that I was rooted, I've returned about 10 phones for warranty without un rooting before hand. Customer service reps are usually clueless without their script because if Virgin really cared about unlocked bootloaders they would have forced htcdev not to provide the unlocking tools like AT&T did last year. Another reason for his lack of knowledge is that there's no such thing as a carrier unlocked CDMA phone which is what Virgin uses. Only GSM phones can be carrier unlocked because they have sim cards instead.
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I thought we knowingly void the warranties when we root and so on. Hmm.
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I thought we knowingly void the warranties when we root and so on. Hmm.
If your rooting efforts cause you to brick the phone that's one thing but if the power button or touchscreen stops working on my rooted device then they are not related and my warranty would still apply.
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