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Old January 25th, 2013, 10:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok, everyone who wants the bootloader unlocked needs to call this number! 18003494478 I just got off the phone with them and they said they are checking with the corporate office. It might be a possibility to see this happen, but EVERYONE needs to call and request a bootloader unlock and explain that we don't care about the warranty. Please guys, this may be our only hope!

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Old January 25th, 2013, 01:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Here is the email the corporate office sent...

Thank you for contacting Kyocera Communications Inc. This email message is in response to your inquiry regarding the bootloader for the Kyocera Hydro.

We are sorry to hear about the difficulties you are experiencing and appreciate the opportunity to assist you.

Unlike Samsung, HTC and other phone manufacturers that has allowed you to access the bootloader of the phone, Kyocera doesn't make phones independently and then sell it to the market or end users. We make the phone's upon the specifications of the service provider as they are our direct customers. Giving the bootloader to end users will mean that they can have the phone reflashed to another carrier other than the one's that we have sold the phone to or make modifications the way they want it to, aside from having the phone's warranty voided we will also be charged of breach of contract. The only people who have access to the bootloader of the phone are the authorized distributors.

If you have any further questions, or are interested in purchasing, or information on accessories for your Kyocera Communications Inc. phone, please contact us at any of the phone numbers listed below:

-E-Mail: phone-help@kyocera.com -Phone: (800) 349-4478 (Toll-free USA and Canada only) -Kyocera Accessories: KyoceraWeb@scp4me.com -International Access: (858) 882-1401 (Outside the USA) -Fax: (858) 882-1717

Thank you for contacting Kyocera Communications Inc.

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Old January 25th, 2013, 02:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Ok guys, I just spent 4 hours back and forth with Kyocera and Boost. I have finally gotten a breakthrough! They will be contacting me Wednesday with a possible development program for the Kyocera! Cross your fingers peeps!
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Ok guys, I just spent 4 hours back and forth with Kyocera and Boost. I have finally gotten a breakthrough! They will be contacting me Wednesday with a possible development program for the Kyocera! Cross your fingers peeps!
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I've been trying to get them to do it too.. they are just giving us the run around...
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What a bunch of crap. They are supposedly discussing the issue with their engineers. I am still waiting for the call saying yes or no. I am continually calling and asking, but they just keep telling me that my case is still being reviewed...
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That's lame. THey're just stalling, while it seems a patch has been released to kill the root... Going to have to break open my space Rise and test.
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That's lame. THey're just stalling, while it seems a patch has been released to kill the root... Going to have to break open my space Rise and test.
Agreed, it really sounds like a delay tactic. Why they'd do something so underhanded to their customers is beyond me though.

If they are doing that I can promise I'd never purchase a Kyocera anything ever again.
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we gotta find a way to get our hands on the service software... it holds the key to unlocking the bootloader (or faking a signature) and also getting our msl/spc(it too seems to be locked)...
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we gotta find a way to get our hands on the service software... it holds the key to unlocking the bootloader (or faking a signature) and also getting our msl/spc(it too seems to be locked)...
Well, some of the people over on the Hydro forums have gotten their MSL numbers from Boost Mobile. We could probably just get VM to give us ours.
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Well, some of the people over on the Hydro forums have gotten their MSL numbers from Boost Mobile. We could probably just get VM to give us ours.

thats all well and great but for those of us on public mobile... those guys don't even know what the msl/spc code is... there response is usually "please visit one of our warranty centers for further assistance"...
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ill leave email address out but got my email from them:



Thank you for contacting Kyocera Communications Inc. This email message is in response to your inquiry regarding the bootloaders for the Kyocera phones.

We are sorry to hear about the difficulties you are experiencing and appreciate the opportunity to assist you.

First of all, Kyocera is not like HTC, Samsung or other independent phone manufacturers that creates bootloaders and make it available in the market. The reason behind this is because we don't make phones based on the end-users request, we make phones based on the specification of the service providers who purchases the phone from us. If they don't give any specification to create any bootloaders then Kyocera will not make one. It is true that you purchase the phone but you didn't buy the phone from us, you purchased the phone through your service provider who already bought the phones before you did.

Once we make the phone we are bound by contracts and agreements of what needs to be included when we manufacture the phones for them. Sprint, Boost, Virgin Mobile didn't give any authorization to create or provide bootloaders as it can be used to flash the phone to be used to other service providers as well as the warranty will be voided in case the phone breaks after bootloading it. Again our customers are the service providers so we need to protect their interest as well.

We do understand that other manufacturers provide the bootloaders for the phone, but we are different company from them and we follow a different process as well. If any of those service providers give an authorization to make a bootloader then we won't have any issues creating one and making it available for end users like you to access it.

If you have any further questions, or are interested in purchasing, or information on accessories for your Kyocera Communications Inc. phone, please contact us at any of the phone numbers listed below:

-E-Mail: phone-help@kyocera.com
-Phone: (800) 349-4478 (Toll-free USA and Canada only)
-Kyocera Accessories: KyoceraWeb@scp4me.com
-International Access: (858) 882-1401 (Outside the USA)
-Fax: (858) 882-1717

Thank you for contacting Kyocera Communications Inc.

Mary,
Technical Support Specialist
Kyocera Communications Inc.












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Guess they will only hurt when they say stuff like that in the long run so we gotta put pressure on virgin cause if they get a sales drop in the rise my guess is they will have less reason to order from them so hurt there pockets is all i can think of since they dont mind robbing us , funny how they claim that we bought the phone from virgin mobile i wonder since virgin stamps there name on the phone also how much of a discount the get for the phones by allowing kyocera too keep there name stamp on the phones , but just dead end either the head android probs can crack this phones bootloader or i think where in for a long wait

offtopic rootbybin4ry updated his rooting software alot since we orginally used it too root, b4 the update, its offtopic but hopefully useful & on the XDA site, i downloaded but closed out the link & cant reupload somewhere else too link here per his request ,
hopefully this helps others
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
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Yep this will hurt there sales. Which is why im staying away from Kyoceria from now on. HTC is almost as bad with all the steps you must go through to unlock the bootloaders, but at least they allow you.
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Noob to Android Rooting and modding here. Can't we just extract a copy of the boot.img (That is the right file, right?), decompile it and try to reverse engineer it to find an unlocking method? Is that even possible, even with root permissions?

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Ran "dd if=/dev/mtd/mtd2 of=/sdcard/boot.img bs=4096" in Android Terminal Emulator as root to copy the boot.img, and it appears as if the file either does not exist or Kyocera used a different file name for the bootloader.
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Noob to Android Rooting and modding here. Can't we just extract a copy of the boot.img (That is the right file, right?), decompile it and try to reverse engineer it to find an unlocking method? Is that even possible, even with root permissions?

EDIT:
Ran "dd if=/dev/mtd/mtd2 of=/sdcard/boot.img bs=4096" in Android Terminal Emulator as root to copy the boot.img, and it appears as if the file either does not exist or Kyocera used a different file name for the bootloader.
if Reverse Engineering Was Theoretically possible,which im unsure of,youre using the wrong type of mountpoint i beileve.

after giving Terminal emulator root permissions via su,
changing the directory to /dev/block(cd /dev/block)
and running the ls command,my output lists an mmcblk0,
trailing with mmcblk0x,where x is a number 1-20.
it also lists an mmcblk1,and mmcblk1p1.
subsequently,changing directories back to /dev/ and running the same command(ls),gave me no mtd directory,which in theory is more than likely why its creating a file with 0 bytes,becuase that file and/or directory doesnt exist in our file system.
i think you should be eyeballing /dev/block/mmcblk0px where the general file structure would put the boot partition in one of the first numbers 1-20 being x

EDIT:also,after reviewing some of the other mmcblk devices,in this instance,i used the galaxy exhibit 2 4g,the filesystem mountpoints are as follows:


Partition Table
/dev/block/mmcblk0p1 secboot2 partition map
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 dbl.mbn (boot loader)
/dev/block/mmcblk0p3 osbl.mbn (boot loader)
/dev/block/mmcblk0p4 MBR extended partition table
/dev/block/mmcblk0p5 EMMCBOOT.MBN (boot loader, has odin download mode)
/dev/block/mmcblk0p6 amss.mbn
/dev/block/mmcblk0p7 emmcparam.bin
/dev/block/mmcblk0p8 boot.img (linux kernel)
/dev/block/mmcblk0p9 adsp.mbn (baseband)
/dev/block/mmcblk0p10 rmt
/dev/block/mmcblk0p11 rmt
/dev/block/mmcblk0p12 persist.ext4
/dev/block/mmcblk0p13 recovery.img (linux kernel+initrd for recovery mode)
/dev/block/mmcblk0p14 param
/dev/block/mmcblk0p15 system.ext4
/dev/block/mmcblk0p16 cache.ext4
/dev/block/mmcblk0p17 data.ext4
/dev/block/mmcblk0p18 preload.ext4

/dev/block/mmcblk0p19
/dev/block/mmcblk0p20 all 0's
/dev/block/mmcblk0p21 all 0's
/dev/block/mmcblk0p22 all 0's
/dev/block/mmcblk0p23 all 0's
/dev/block/mmcblk0p24 all 0's
/dev/block/mmcblk0p25 all 0's
/dev/block/mmcblk0p26 all 0's
/dev/block/mmcblk0p27 efs (encrypted fs)
/dev/block/mmcblk0p28 /mnt/sdcard

note the bold partitions.after running an ls -l command on the /dev/block directory on our kyocera rise,ALL the partitions are owned by ROOT,except for mmcblk0px,Where X is a number 15-18,which is quite identical to the listing here.
im not sure how close this will get us to unlocking the bootloader,but i would figure if theyre not gunna unlock it for us,we might as well understand it first.
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For what its worth I just picked up one of these on the cheap. If you want to know my dev history check jmztaylor on xda
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jmz,If theres anything any of us users can do to assist you,if you plan on devving for this device,let us or at least me know.i know most of the filesystem structure and basic bash commands.
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