So I could only find vague references to Rogers phones in the XDA thread. Does anyone know if this has been tried successfully on Rogers dream or magic post or pre 911?
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So I could only find vague references to Rogers phones in the XDA thread. Does anyone know if this has been tried successfully on Rogers dream or magic post or pre 911?
Let me give a bit of insight:
If you have read lately about the e911 Dream rooting method, it uses the same exploit found in this application.
Simply put, the app automates that process. It gives you root access, without flashing the SPL, Radio, or a new ROM.
Reading in the thread, they have had success with the HTC Magic (which is the Canadian naming), and the HTC Dream.
The root method offers no means of bricking, because it simply uses the exploit to inject the SuperUser.apk into the phone, and give root access. It's one of those "If it works, you have root. If it doesn't, it'll say like 'denied'".
Which device do you have?
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So that all worked except that I needed to install superuser permissions manually after the app rooted the phone. So now if I want to installa custom rom I neede to start from step C in this guide?
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So that all worked except that I needed to install superuser permissions manually after the app rooted the phone. So now if I want to installa custom rom I neede to start from step C in this guide?
If you've pushed the recovery image to /data/local, then do this:
1) On your PC, run ADB shell.
2) If you don't get a # prompt, type "su" without quotes, and SuperUser should give you clearance.
3) When you get your root shell, type "flash_image recovery /data/local/recovery-RA-dream-v1.7.0R-cyan.img" without quotes.
Then, you should be able to start at Step D.
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So it all worked great on my dream. I'm running 5.08 with no problems. I know you kind of already went over this but just so I'm clear... this doesn't touch the radio - if i use this same method on my e911 magic I will end up with a custom rom and no data cut off?
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So it all worked great on my dream. I'm running 5.08 with no problems. I know you kind of already went over this but just so I'm clear... this doesn't touch the radio - if i use this same method on my e911 magic I will end up with a custom rom and no data cut off?
No custom ROM even.
Let me clarify:
This "utility" just gives you root access. It does not flash any ROMs or Radios or SPLs or recovery images. It just injects the app that will allow you to flash a new recovery, at your leisure.
Simply put, root access just means the ability to access functions locked out to a normal user access. This includes write abilities of all folders, flashing new partitions, etc etc.
For the sake of now, root access will only be good for you if you are going to flash a new recovery image, so that you can flash a new SPL / RADIO / ROM.
Sorry, I wasn't clear. The old rooting method (as I understand it) flashed different radio version than the e911 radio. This one doesn't. So if I use this method to root, and then go on to flash a custom recovery and then a rom, am I correct that I will still end up with the current rogers radio and as such, will not have data cut off?
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Sorry, I wasn't clear. The old rooting method (as I understand it) flashed different radio version than the e911 radio. This one doesn't. So if I use this method to root, and then go on to flash a custom recovery and then a rom, am I correct that I will still end up with the current rogers radio and as such, will not have data cut off?
Here's the order that you HAVE to do things:
1) Flash recovery
2) Flash SPL from recovery (not sure which one it is for the Magic, it MUST be compatible with your radio version)
3) Flash ROM
If your phone has an incompatible SPL / RADIO combination, your phone is a brick.
The key here is knowing which SPLs are universally compatible.
Now, I would ask GreatBigDog01, as he knows the Magic much better than I do.
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--edit-- This worked amazingly well on my post 911 dream --
Alright I've reached an in-pass, I had originally followed THIS tutorial on my post 911 dream. Although in step D.1 my phone won't boot in recovery. It just stays at the rogers screen if I hold home, home + pwr, or any other combination I could think of. It does however boot normally so I tried following this 1-click process, although I'm pretty sure that from what I had done and what this 1-click app does is the same point, and I've reached the same point. I'm sure I did something wrong but I was wondering if someone knew where I went wrong and how I could get it working. Any help would be greatly appreciated, and thank you for your time.
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Alright I've reached an in-pass, I had originally followed THIS tutorial on my post 911 dream. Although in step D.1 my phone won't boot in recovery. It just stays at the rogers screen if I hold home, home + pwr, or any other combination I could think of. It does however boot normally so I tried following this 1-click process, although I'm pretty sure that from what I had done and what this 1-click app does is the same point, and I've reached the same point. I'm sure I did something wrong but I was wondering if someone knew where I went wrong and how I could get it working. Any help would be greatly appreciated, and thank you for your time.
Sounds like you flashed a bad recovery. For the Rogers Dream, you need that AmonRa v1.7.0R. If you use the regular AmonRa v1.7.0, it won't boot into recovery.
Sounds like you flashed a bad recovery. For the Rogers Dream, you need that AmonRa v1.7.0R. If you use the regular AmonRa v1.7.0, it won't boot into recovery.
1) Put recovery-RA-dream-v1.7.0R-cyan.img in the same folder as adb.exe
In Command Window:
2) Type "adb push recovery-RA-dream-v1.7.0R-cyan.img /data/local"
3) Type "adb shell"
4) Type "flash_image recovery /data/local/recovery-RA-dream-v1.7.0R-cyan.img"
5) Type "exit"
Now, you should have a new recovery for when you boot with HOME + POWER.
I have tried that, I downloaded the img from THIS tutorial along with the one from the previous one that I had linked, and both of them gave me the same problem. Does it matter if I run the recovery from su or not? Cause both times I've run it with those permissions.
-edit- also when I try to run the recovery this is what happens.
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It said it rooted my X10 but It will not let me install Titanium Backup, it says not root access, Not sure if this is because it is not rooted fully or just partially, If anyone has any suggestions on a fix please let me know.
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I have tried that, I downloaded the img from THIS tutorial along with the one from the previous one that I had linked, and both of them gave me the same problem. Does it matter if I run the recovery from su or not? Cause both times I've run it with those permissions.
-edit- also when I try to run the recovery this is what happens.
So the recovery is flashing fine, as you're not getting any errors. If you hold down the HOME key + Power, what happens exactly?
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So the recovery is flashing fine, as you're not getting any errors. If you hold down the HOME key + Power, what happens exactly?
rogers screen shows up and then nothing, if I let go after a bit the rogers screen disappears and I get a black screen and the lights stay on although nothing else ever shows up.
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rogers screen shows up and then nothing, if I let go after a bit the rogers screen disappears and I get a black screen and the lights stay on although nothing else ever shows up.
That is different... Go into HBOOT mode (Power+Camera), give me all the numbers in there
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Ok, no worries, they said that it only exists on rare systems.
I am kind of baffled why it isn't booting. Basically, it sounds like the recovery partition needs to be wiped first on your phone. Problem is, I only know of one way to do it right now, but I don't know how risky it really is. Basically, here's my thought:
Ok, no worries, they said that it only exists on rare systems.
I am kind of baffled why it isn't booting. Basically, it sounds like the recovery partition needs to be wiped first on your phone. Problem is, I only know of one way to do it right now, but I don't know how risky it really is. Basically, here's my thought:
I am concerned that it may not boot properly without a recovery image. I'd consult Amon Ra @ XDA honestly. Sorry
Well good news is that this is by backup phone, thus I don't really care if it bricks, I'd prefer if it doesn't, but which ever. Also if you want I can PM you my skype or msn and we could chat in a more personal matter if it'd suit you.
-edit- although I've just received this error =[
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Well good news is that this is by backup phone, thus I don't really care if it bricks, I'd prefer if it doesn't, but which ever. Also if you want I can PM you my skype or msn and we could chat in a more personal matter if it'd suit you.
-edit- although I've just received this error =[
sorry, should be "adb shell reboot bootloader", I was thinking of fastboot's bootloader reboot.
sorry, should be "adb shell reboot bootloader", I was thinking of fastboot's bootloader reboot.
Before anything I've gotta thank you for your continuous help, I would of given up a long time ago had it not been for you. On that note, this is as far as I've gotten.
Also msn or skype might allow us to have a quicker troubleshooting process, and we could post the solution here afterwards.
It said it rooted my X10 but It will not let me install Titanium Backup, it says not root access, Not sure if this is because it is not rooted fully or just partially, If anyone has any suggestions on a fix please let me know.
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I had the same problem with titanium backup on my x10 when routed with this method. What I did was to click on the middle button on the bottom of the screen (not sure what it said) and the app reinstalled bussybox. It worked fine after that.
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I had the same problem with titanium backup on my x10 when routed with this method. What I did was to click on the middle button on the bottom of the screen (not sure what it said) and the app reinstalled bussybox. It worked fine after that.
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Didn't read the whole screen. K... I'll have to sleep on it.
[update] got the dream running 2.1 after many hours of messing around with it
@BigDog I couldnt flash the spl from fastboot so I flashed amon ra 1.6.2R which let me boot in recovery, flashed the spl then flashed amon ra 1.7.0R and continued on like that and it worked
Thanks to the two of you, without you I wouldn't of managed to fix the phone.
Cripes sorry forgot to get back to ya! Sorry! Glad you got it working!
na it's cool, BigDog started PMing me right where you left off, and with what he said, and what you said I managed to troubleshoot my way out of it. So I thank you both!
For us Rogers Magic people (post-911), is it really that straightforward now? Software that deals with the recovery and ROM install for you? I wasn't planning on doing the root/CM thing and waiting for the Rogers 2.1 because I like Sense. But would a Magic update be as simple as...
NOTE to the Over-Eager: Don't do this, I'm asking if this would work, NOT announcing that it does.
1. Install Universal Androot
2. Root
3. Install ROM Manager
4. use ROM Manager to flash Amon RA Hero recovery
5. Install CM
And where does the whole issue of SPL and radio version slide into this method? I keep seeing on other forums guys bricking their magic...but they're always installing the Magic recovery that comes with ROM Manager instead of a Hero recovery, so that's why that keeps bricking. But if you get the Hero part right, what's next?
For us Rogers Magic people (post-911), is it really that straightforward now? Software that deals with the recovery and ROM install for you? I wasn't planning on doing the root/CM thing and waiting for the Rogers 2.1 because I like Sense. But would a Magic update be as simple as...
NOTE to the Over-Eager: Don't do this, I'm asking if this would work, NOT announcing that it does.
1. Install Universal Androot
2. Root
3. Install ROM Manager
4. use ROM Manager to flash Amon RA Hero recovery
5. Install CM
And where does the whole issue of SPL and radio version slide into this method? I keep seeing on other forums guys bricking their magic...but they're always installing the Magic recovery that comes with ROM Manager instead of a Hero recovery, so that's why that keeps bricking. But if you get the Hero part right, what's next?
it's supposed to be that easy... but that way didn't work for me.
my recovery mode was stuck in bootloop, and i still had the rogers splash on startup.
your magic isn't bricked as long as you can get into fastboot mode, 'cause you can only install the RUU if you're in fastboot, or on the OS, not in any of the splash screens, or recovery mode... at least that's what i found.
really, just root the phone the old fashioned way...
check out great big dog's rooting procedure, it's pretty slick.
[update] got the dream running 2.1 after many hours of messing around with it
@BigDog I couldnt flash the spl from fastboot so I flashed amon ra 1.6.2R which let me boot in recovery, flashed the spl then flashed amon ra 1.7.0R and continued on like that and it worked
Thanks to the two of you, without you I wouldn't of managed to fix the phone.
-Adam
I have the same issue as you did, could you shed some light on what you ended up having to do? (also PMed Recc113)
[update] got the dream running 2.1 after many hours of messing around with it
@BigDog I couldnt flash the spl from fastboot so I flashed amon ra 1.6.2R which let me boot in recovery, flashed the spl then flashed amon ra 1.7.0R and continued on like that and it worked
Thanks to the two of you, without you I wouldn't of managed to fix the phone.
-Adam
I know this is an old thread, but this one single post helped me out when I was stuck. I flashed a different img when the "***v1.7.0R-cyan" one wasn't flashing and I finally was able to get to recovery and finish the "post911 rogers dream" guide and now have cyanogen 6.1 on my phone. So, thanks Recc113!!! Couldn't find anyone else with the same problem as me, till I found this thread.
p.s. I flashed the reg recovery-RA-dream-v1.7.0R.img (i.e. no '-cyan')