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Old November 28th, 2012, 08:34 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Where can I find a discussion IN NORMAL ENGLISH about some ROMs for rooted phones?

I understand what rooting does, why it does it, but I will be damned if I understand the jargon that devs and rooters use to describe things. The place I truly get lost is with radios. I've rooted both my phones.

I rooted since I am a social rebel. The more I get pushed to do things the normal way, the more I push back. If I read reviews of ROMS - all I see is glowing fanboys.
Looking at JB - everyone is drooling over Google Now. There's nothing in Google Now I would ever use.

I can't seem to find how JB actually does with speed of opening apps if apps have large databases with images, nor how it does with battery life.

I'm not exactly happy with a lot of the stuff that CM10 put in the ROM, so I'd like to look at some other ROMS but can't find anything on searching or in other groups. XDA is no help. They are good, but they have the bad habit of using phone shorthand which I find hard to understand.*

I'll be looking to replace the Nexus S. I bought it used and I like it. I just happen to have my own uses which don't seem to coincide with what most normal people do.

Where do I start looking?

*With acronyms - we discussed ATM once.
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and so it goes.

All ATM.

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Two that you'll see often are EQS and APM. EQS is extended quick settings - more stuff on status drop down so you don't have to wade through settings.

Here's an example -

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APM, advanced power management. When you hold the power button, you get a menu with more choices, example -

Attachment 44046

A rom is a colloquialism. If it were truly read only memory, you couldn't change it. Feature phone operating systems some time back were burned into rom and couldn't be changed. Now, the full operating system is bundled into an easy to install payload, so that's called a rom.

The actual hardware being used is the same as an sd card, nand (not-and logic) flash memory, so installing becomes flashing and backing up becomes nandroid. That's where those terms come from.

The operating system includes a low level component called a kernel, said to tie hardware and software together. Mostly true. Your phone radios are a combination of hardware and programmable firmware. The kernel will tend to connect with the programmable radio firmware.

So, some updates will require radio firmware updates to preserve the correct working of the chain: phone app, Android virtual machine (Dalvik), Linux os, Linux kernel, radio firmware, radio hardware.

Radio firmware installation techniques vary by phone, might install like a rom, might require a different way. Often looks complicated until you do one.

Radio firmware is also called RIL for radio interface layer.

IME - a keyboard, probably making fun of Microsoft calling it an input method editor.

AOSP, Android Open Source Project, the code repository maintained by Google for pure Android. CM, CyanogenMod, is said to be an AOSP type rom, as opposed to a phone maker type rom.

There's a start, hope this helps!
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EQS -

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Thanks - but that still doesn't help me much with customization and performance in phone. I can find plenty of speed tests for upload and download speeds - that doesn't interest me as much as how fast a large app with a stored on phone graphic database will open. I've never seen that speed tested.

I've watched some of this over the years with my computer. It's a very upgraded 286 and kept very basic. I just had hardware upgraded as I needed it, and could see speed differences in performance of Adobe Photoshop. I'm assuming phones work much the same way.

Your settings look much like what is on my phone. I like your advice. It makes sense.

I've bought quite a few apps which I find better than the default. I won't use the built in browser - it's frozen. I like Boat, and I use both Startpage and Duck as search engines. I like Handcent. I also bought Aquamail. I bought ADW. Since the last update to ADW, I deleted Nova and that other popular one. I bought TB. I want to make sure that these will be compatible on any upgrade. No one seems to review this in any one spot.

I took a couple of courses on technical writing, that's why some of the instructions drive me nuts!
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Well, your phone is using a stripped down CPU compared to your PC. Very stripped down even though it is using two to four cores, the instruction set is very limited. Your phone is already optimized for speed. To help speed up for phone a little bit you can try to keep your cache cleared, and perhaps run a program to keep your ram free, but other then that, I don't believe there is a way to make your phone faster then what it already is. The bad thing about this is there is a chance of eating your battery because of running in the background.

The programs on the phone is running stripped down programs and are already light weight for the SOC cpu in the device.

If your device is really struggling, you may need to do a factory reset and baring that, breakdown and get a new device or send the one in for replacement.
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I'll join the club. All of my phones for the last couple years have been rooted. I'm going to stick with stock Android on my Nexus 4 for a while. I really like JB 4.2, so no need for a custom ROM... Yet
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As long as you know that the first rule of root club is "make a back up" and that the second rule of root club is "make a backup!!!"
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I learned that the hard way a few years ago.
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I just liked that comment, so I could unlike it!

I think that, at some point, all of us have done something without backing up and then instantly regretted it though!
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Yay, another thread to follow. I've rooted every android device I've ever had except for this Logitech revue. It's so limited that it really isn't worth it and it's incredibly hard to do on top of that since it requires hardware mods.
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Reminds me of the Nexus S days, you and I were always hanging out in the All Things Root subforum.

I'll have to join this group as well. Surprisingly enough, I kept my Galaxy Note stock for around 8 months before finally caving in. I'm running Paranoid Android now and now I wonder what took so damn long.
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Can't imagine using a device with out rooting it. May keep the same ROM but must root to kill bloat
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I am definitely in this club. Every android device I have had is rooted. My signature shows my history. Wouldn't have it any other way
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Well, your phone is using a stripped down CPU compared to your PC. Very stripped down even though it is using two to four cores, the instruction set is very limited. Your phone is already optimized for speed. To help speed up for phone a little bit you can try to keep your cache cleared, and perhaps run a program to keep your ram free, but other then that, I don't believe there is a way to make your phone faster then what it already is. The bad thing about this is there is a chance of eating your battery because of running in the background.

The programs on the phone is running stripped down programs and are already light weight for the SOC cpu in the device.

If your device is really struggling, you may need to do a factory reset and baring that, breakdown and get a new device or send the one in for replacement.
Not struggling. Doing very well, but close to EOL since it was used to begin with. Looking for new phone and simply can't find that type of spec. I like to start reading early so I can find all the info I want and need and not wait until a crisis.
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Reminds me of the Nexus S days, you and I were always hanging out in the All Things Root subforum.

I'll have to join this group as well. Surprisingly enough, I kept my Galaxy Note stock for around 8 months before finally caving in. I'm running Paranoid Android now and now I wonder what took so damn long.
That was the last ROM is was running on my GSII. I liked it the best of any ROM I found.
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Well said!
Rooted my razr, but still running stock rom and ICS 4.0.4. Got rid of all the bloatware and phone runs amazing! Just using Apex pro launcher for now until I decide on a ROM.
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Is there any list that compares ROMS? Not so much technically, but like those tables that compare the free version of an app with the paid. They list each function in a header. Also in one table. Not all over different pages.
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Is there any list that compares ROMS? Not so much technically, but like those tables that compare the free version of an app with the paid. They list each function in a header. Also in one table. Not all over different pages.

Not that I'm aware of.
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i have rooted all my android phones...

got my S3 and had it rooted within 3 days.. had to test make sure it was 100% working before I go and mess with it. :P

my S3 is running "the people's ROM" .. very nice! and the Dev is soo active in this support.. helps each person's posted issues fast.
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Is there any list that compares ROMS? Not so much technically, but like those tables that compare the free version of an app with the paid. They list each function in a header. Also in one table. Not all over different pages.
Not that I know of, also it would have to be phone specific. There are the ROMs like AOSP, AOKP, CM10, PA, etc that could be done, but other than the big ones most ROMs are phone specific. Eventually someone will probably get around to doing it, but it is going to be quite a task
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Just the big ones would be fine. I'd love to have all the info so I can ask decent questions.
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Just the big ones would be fine. I'd love to have all the info so I can ask decent questions.
for me its been a trial basis. don't know of any comparison chart except the one in my head and that is just how it works on my particular device. What works for me may not work for you. That also works the other way around. All the info I can give you is that MIUI is more Iphonish where Caynogenmod is pure android with no Google Apps. As far as any real comparison it really boils down to how it works with your device and your personal preference. To be honest it changes when you add in kernels.

The best comparison chart you will find will be here in the forums by just asking your questions and letting us answer them the best way we can. I wish I could be of more help but I'm not much of a comparison chart maker. I'm just a user who know's what he likes and how he likes it.
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I know this is only for the GNex, but AF Guide Petrah has created this:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AggpxyzXBu--dEZMWnZTUWtMVXBpdHNteW5zTXpRVmc#gid=1

There's a link in her signature, too (don't know where the thead is that introduced this, though).

It at least gives a good template for what others could do for their devices.

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Just what I was looking for! Now I have some idea of what's available, and what questions and where to ask.

BTW - Damn Google Docs thinks that FX ESR is an outdated browser. I had to use Iron.
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I finally broke down and installed a custom ROM. I flashed the ParanoidKANGdroid ROM... I am loving it so far!
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Just wondering if anyone actually gets tired of rooting and rom'ing their android devices and keeping up with the manual updates?
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It depends on the frequency. I don't mind once a week or so, but I'd get tired of true Nightly flashes.
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I'm not much into flashing but changing stuff/apps/themes/icons/etc is what I like to do
I just basically keep up with my current rom, Decks Reloaded
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I have a habit of flashing roms, and sticking with them. Very rarely do I flash others, unless the one I am using is having problems. So, its kind of like, yeah, I flashed a rom. Now what? Kind of like it looses its appeal after doing so.
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With the ROM I flashed, it's SO customizable, I doubt I'll ever get bored with it.. I've been pretty impressed with it so far.
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Just wondering if anyone actually gets tired of rooting and rom'ing their android devices and keeping up with the manual updates?
I have. I loved it for a while, but the GSII ruined it for me. So many bugs and bad battery life because Samsung wouldn't release source code.

This is the reason I won't ever buy a non Nexus phone again. I'll always keep rooting because of the apps I want to use, but no more ROMs for me. I may change my mind eventually, but right now I'm very happy with my rooted Android 4.2.1
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If it works, I usually stick with it - but everytime I look at the phone I feel some satisfaction that I got it my way
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I have a habit of flashing roms, and sticking with them. Very rarely do I flash others, unless the one I am using is having problems. So, its kind of like, yeah, I flashed a rom. Now what? Kind of like it looses its appeal after doing so.

i am the same way.. i normally find a ROM that is stable and sit.. till there is some new feature or update that I want. I dont do app backups.. so when i flash a totally new ROM, i reload all apps fresh to reduce possibility of issues...

i dont mind flashing a ROM's minor updates.. because it can be done dirty (not doing a full wipe and starting fresh).


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last night i rooted my sister's S3.. and put TPR ROM on it. her first rooted experience. hope she likes it.
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Just wondering if anyone actually gets tired of rooting and rom'ing their android devices and keeping up with the manual updates?
When I had my Eris flashing roms was almost a daily thing then the Incredible not as much then with the rezound it slowed to a crawl and there's nothing for the DNA yet.

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I hope I didn't miss any discussion on it, but what are folks' experience with flashing zips from TiBu in recovery? I haven't done it yet as restoring apps+data doesn't take too long for me but any more convenience is always nice.
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I hope I didn't miss any discussion on it, but what are folks' experience with flashing zips from TiBu in recovery? I haven't done it yet as restoring apps+data doesn't take too long for me but any more convenience is always nice.
Be interested to hear this myself
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I like stability.

The rom I'm using now has the built-in ota update tool replaced with one from the dev. I don't have to babysit it, and if a carrier update ever hits, I won't accidently take it. I don't have to visit the website and go through the whole 9 yards unless I want to, otherwise I can accept updates normally. Others are going this route as well, I think it's a great idea.

Another thing that I like is having a wizard using the Aroma installer. The rom I have uses it so you can select a customized installation. Don't want social networking? Check them off the list. Don't want the OEM launcher, want to just use a choice of other popular launchers? Want to lose more eye candy? Check some boxes. Another great time saver.
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Wow, EM, lots of great info.
Sourcery also gives you notifications if there's an update.
Love the Franco kernel app (though Sourcery has a whole toolbox allowing you to easily download/flash a kernel) as well.
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I rooted my LG Ally about 2 months after having it back in 2010 and rest is history.

Rooted each of the following thereafter:

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Couldn't live without root.

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So this weekend should be rooting my mates Desire Z and (finally) my wife's Galaxy S... lets just say, I'm hoping rooting the wife's phone goes ok... I'd never live it down if not!!
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I know this is only for the GNex, but AF Guide Petrah has created this:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AggpxyzXBu--dEZMWnZTUWtMVXBpdHNteW5zTXpRVmc#gid=1

There's a link in her signature, too (don't know where the thead is that introduced this, though).

It at least gives a good template for what others could do for their devices.

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Is there any list that compares ROMS? Not so much technically, but like those tables that compare the free version of an app with the paid. They list each function in a header. Also in one table. Not all over different pages.
I know the EVO 4g has one (not a comparison but a list on one page with a little bit of information on each ROM). And the GNex has one as well. Not sure about other phones.
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Been flashing phones since before there were roms, I can still remember the excitement pushing a new ring tone or java app to my RAZR and then scouring the Web for an OS upgrade for WM7 or BlackBerry. Android just makes it ridiculously simple compared to those days. Some of the process might be more involved but back then just finding a software tool that you needed might take a couple of weeks instead of mere minutes using Google.
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Just flashed the PAC man ROM for the EVO LTE and this "Alpha" has already put many of the ROMS out there to shame. IT ROCKS YALL
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So this weekend should be rooting my mates Desire Z and (finally) my wife's Galaxy S... lets just say, I'm hoping rooting the wife's phone goes ok... I'd never live it down if not!!
My wife NEVER let me touch her Droid. Okay, not entirely true, I'd force OTA updates early while she was sleeping.
But, now with the Bionic which I had previously and rooted/ROM'd, I had to unroot it and install a leaked ICS stock ROM. Had to completely wipe the device so back'd up all the texts and as much as I could. Unfortunately, in order to flash the real OTA, I'd have to downgrade and wipe it again. I'm done with that phone.
Trying to get her to pony up not too much money (~$200) for a used Gnex, but she won't bite.
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I really wish my wife would let me root her Nexus 4. Kinda gets to me knowing there is a non-rooted Nexus in the house. My wife never let's me root any of her phones though
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I really wish my wife would let me root her Nexus 4. Kinda gets to me knowing there is a non-rooted Nexus in the house. My wife never let's me root any of her phones though
You have to do it when she is asleep.
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You have to do it when she is asleep.
If she wasn't such a light sleeper I would have already.

Unfortunately it would be pretty hard to do without her noticing it since unlocking the bootloader would wipe it, which she would notice. I've always said "better to ask forgiveness then permission" though.
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