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Old June 20th, 2013, 11:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Samsung will be having a live event today at 2pm Eastern time discussing new products.

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Mod Note: Moving this thread into this section since its basically about the ATIV Q.

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I don't have time for that, but I know I can find out all about it later on here. :-)
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The only interesting thing I saw was the ATIV Q.
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I wasn't able to watch the live event, but there are countless videos of the products showcased at the event on other sites and youtube and yes I agree that the ATIB Q is one impressive device.

Currently I use both the Samsung Note 10.1 and the Samsung ATIV 500T equally, but I rather just use one device that would do both OS's and be lighter than carrying around them both.

This device looks sweet. things I like...
  • Dual OS Win8 and Android Jelly Bean (although I read its Android in a VM on top of Win8), but still from the videos it was quite quick switching between them. Some may say why have a dual OS device but I like the fact that it has Android (which I use the most) but it also has Win8/Desktop that allows me to use my current windows apps like Office (since I take stuff home at times to work with).
  • S-pen (which I love on both the Note 10.1 and the ATIV 500T). I have both and have wished that I could have a device that has both Android and Windows. This is it.
  • Intel Haswell Core i5 processor. Which allows the device to have for more memory on board, improved graphics
  • 13 inch display may seem to be to big in terms of carrying around, but with the current 10 inch note and 11.6 inch ATIV 500T, I am at times wanting a bit more screen to work with.
  • Thin, yet has a built in keyboard and enough ports including the hinge itself has ports (usb 3.0, micro hdmi and sd card reader) wow.
  • Vanilla Win 8 and vanilla Android. (Although this may change by time it actually comes out.)
  • The Lenovo like Trackpoint/mouse nipple. I love the lenovo ones and its nice seeing it appearing on other devices.

Things I may not like about it or unknown at this time...
  • With that type of hinge, the display will always be exposed. Therefore a cover might be needed to prevent it getting scratched.
  • No word if the supplied 4GB of memory is upgradeable, embedded or if there is even a 8GB version of this beast.
  • With this being Samsung, would it have multiview windows in the Android OS.
  • How much of that 128GB SSD memory is left over after both OS and default apps for personal use.
  • Price not set, although in one of the videos it mentioned the other tablet announced today as going for $699 USD, so I expect this one to be twice that or ack dare I say it, even more.

Regardless of the second list above, I feel that this is the next laptop/netbook/tablet/ultrabook that I may get.
Now its time to start putting my Note 10.1 and ATIV 500T on the market. or sell a kidney. lol

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I wasn't able to watch the live event, but there are countless videos of the products showcased at the event on other sites and youtube and yes I agree that the ATIB Q is one impressive device.

Currently I use both the Samsung Note 10.1 and the Samsung ATIV 500T equally, but I rather just use one device that would do both OS's and be lighter than carrying around them both.

This device looks sweet. things I like...
  • Dual OS Win8 and Android Jelly Bean (although I read its Android in a VM on top of Win8), but still from the videos it was quite quick switching between them. Some may say why have a dual OS device but I like the fact that it has Android (which I use the most) but it also has Win8/Desktop that allows me to use my current windows apps like Office (since I take stuff home at times to work with).
  • S-pen (which I love on both the Note 10.1 and the ATIV 500T). I have both and have wished that I could have a device that has both Android and Windows. This is it.
  • Intel Haswell Core i5 processor. Which allows the device to have for more memory on board, improved graphics
  • 13 inch display may seem to be to big in terms of carrying around, but with the current 10 inch note and 11.6 inch ATIV 500T, I am at times wanting a bit more screen to work with.
  • Thin, yet has a built in keyboard and enough ports including the hinge itself has ports (usb 3.0, micro hdmi and sd card reader) wow.
  • Vanilla Win 8 and vanilla Android. (Although this may change by time it actually comes out.)
  • The Lenovo like Trackpoint/mouse nipple. I love the lenovo ones and its nice seeing it appearing on other devices.

Things I may not like about it or unknown at this time...
  • With that type of hinge, the display will always be exposed. Therefore a cover might be needed to prevent it getting scratched.
  • No word if the supplied 4GB of memory is upgradeable, embedded or if there is even a 8GB version of this beast.
  • With this being Samsung, would it have multiview windows in the Android OS.
  • How much of that 128GB SSD memory is left over after both OS and default apps for personal use.
  • Price not set, although in one of the videos it mentioned the other tablet announced today as going for $699 USD, so I expect this one to be twice that or ack dare I say it, even more.

Regardless of the second list above, I feel that this is the next laptop/netbook/tablet/ultrabook that I may get.
Now its time to start putting my Note 10.1 and ATIV 500T on the market. or sell a kidney. lol

TS out
Ditto.

This device has taken the lead as my replacement laptop. I'm not a huge fan of Windows 8 at all, but the ATIV Q screams productivity. That's what attracted me to the Note 2 and more recently the Note 8. I don't really have the need for this at all, but the specs are hard to deny.

Let's just see what it ends up costing. The hardware alone makes me want to prepare to lose a good chunk of change.
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As for Windows 8, I too at first did not like it, but I've gotten used to it plus there are quite a few store apps that gives you more capabilities like bringing back the Win 7 desktop, shutdown/restart menus etc. I've even got to recreate metro links and images (using Obly) to replace some of the links/shortcuts that came with the device. There is another app that puts all metro apps into a win 7 like window to allow more screens. Pretty cool.

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As for Windows 8, I too at first did not like it, but I've gotten used to it plus there are quite a few store apps that gives you more capabilities like bringing back the Win 7 desktop, shutdown/restart menus etc. I've even got to recreate metro links and images (using Obly) to replace some of the links/shortcuts that came with the device. There is another app that puts all metro apps into a win 7 like window to allow more screens. Pretty cool.

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Nice. I need to look into those apps. I hate the tile mumbo jumbo. Doesn't make any sense to me at all.
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I have a feeling this will be the entry level version and they will have one with more ram and better video besides the Intel HD graphics. Maybe it will be ok on this, but I would never buy a laptop unless it also had Nvidia or ATI dedicated graphics. I know on laptops the Intel integrated graphics shares system ram so you may have only 3gb or less of actual ram left.

I'm curious to know how you update the OS on this. When Key Lime Pie is released will we be able to OTA it? Would we need to update the whole Win 8/Android OS?

Will I have to sell both kidneys to buy one?

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Well the issue of storage is a bit confusing. as per the images provided by anantech.com

pic 21 256GB SSD but
pic 23 in the storage settings it shows 15,62 GB total space with 14.60 being used.
Then in the task manager pic 25 it shows 245.mb being used by the dual OS

So does the one that anatech showcase have just 16 gb or the 256 GB drive?

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I have a feeling this will be the entry level version and they will have one with more ram and better video besides the Intel HD graphics. Maybe it will be ok on this, but I would never buy a laptop unless it also had Nvidia or ATI dedicated graphics. I know on laptops the Intel integrated graphics shares system ram so you may have only 3gb or less of actual ram left.

I'm curious to know how you update the OS on this. When Key Lime Pie is released will we be able to OTA it? Would we need to update the whole Win 8/Android OS?

Will I have to sell both kidneys to buy one?

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Very good points and questions. That is why I love this forum. I can get enthusiastic about a product, but many people bring up certain elements that could hold me back from purchasing and making an informed decision.
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Well the issue of storage is a bit confusing. as per the images provided by anantech.com

pic 21 256GB SSD but
pic 23 in the storage settings it shows 15,62 GB total space with 14.60 being used.
Then in the task manager pic 25 it shows 245.mb being used by the dual OS

So does the one that anatech showcase have just 16 gb or the 256 GB drive?

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I don't know which picture # it is, but the display description says up to 256gb SSD....so, that gives us an idea of how the pricing will be. Question is, how much extra will it cost to order the higher storage model. 16gb being the minimum and 256 being the Max, are they gonna offer standard increments (e.g. 32, 64, 128, 256)?
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Good question ^ another point is that it is a intel i5. makes me wonder if there will be a pro version of this using i7. Add a back up battery and Windows 8 64 bit while they are at it.

As for another of my questions above, it seems that PC Advisor did ask Samsung about the device just being stock android.

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Now if Samsung stays true to their word, then that would be awesome.
Although I do like some parts of Touchwiz like calendar, S-Note.

Now the one question no one has asked is.
What do we call this, a Windroid or an Andows tabtop.



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Good question ^ another point is that it is a intel i5. makes me wonder if there will be a pro version of this using i7.

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Exactly what I was thinking. I have to figure out how I can buy this and a Note 3.


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Holy Man of Steel Batman, I just noticed that its not plastic back or plastic anything, its metal.

Damn I wish that event was up on Youtube,

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Good question ^ another point is that it is a intel i5. makes me wonder if there will be a pro version of this using i7. Add a back up battery and Windows 8 64 bit while they are at it.

As for another of my questions above, it seems that PC Advisor did ask Samsung about the device just being stock android.

Read more here
Now if Samsung stays true to their word, then that would be awesome.
Although I do like some parts of Touchwiz like calendar, S-Note.

Now the one question no one has asked is.
What do we call this, a Windroid or an Andows tabtop.



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If that's the case, I wonder if that means no S-Pen unique software features that we find in all of the Note series. I'm assuming so. It wouldn't be a "complete" loss, but would've loved if it did have those features (and just the TouchWiz UI was eliminated).

Win-droid sounds better.
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Damn I wish that event was up on Youtube,

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Video is not great at all, but this is the ATIV Q portion from the event:

Samsung Ativ Q Windows 8 and Android on one Tablet - YouTube
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