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Old June 23rd, 2010, 11:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default How to ensure you get the new OTA update.

There are a few things Tmo says needs to be done or not done to your phone to give you the best possibility of getting the OTA update for behold

First: NO ROOTED PHONES
Second: MUST BE RUNNING TOUCHWIZ(no home replacements such as ahome)
Third: MUST HAVE FIRST OTA UPDATE

That's just so that your phone will begin downloading it. To actually begin the install the phone must be charged atleast 50% before it will start.

That is according to Tmo forums:
The Samsung Behold II Update has started - T-Mobile Community


My suggestions:
Do a COMPLETE backup/sync of everything. (Calender, Contacts, Pictures, etc.)
Since Im not sure if you can get the update through WIFI due to it not reporting to a cell tower to properly Id your phone I would stick with 3g connection. (If someone knows different do not hesitate to correct me)

DO NOT LOSE DATA CONNECTION

Losing your data connection could cause your phone to receive only a partial update which would prevent you from re-downloading the update.

OH one more thing:
If you refuse to update when you are asked you may not get another chance. I declined the last OTA because I was doing something on my phone and was not able to update it after I was finished. I had to use the odin files from here to do it.

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Samsung is really sticking it to us.

They are getting back at us, they are the devil!!!!

If they can check our phone for battery levels, then can check to see if root has ever been changed....

They are going to get the last laugh here, we need BH man to talk to his connections and get us that update for us to try.
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How can we find out if we have touchwiz or not??
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And how can we find out if they even updated the phone, i'm new to this phone but already i want to throw it in a river and go back to Blackberry's which worked 10,000 times better and were so much easier. How would i know these things? Can anyone help?
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Samsung is really sticking it to us.

They are getting back at us, they are the devil!!!!

If they can check our phone for battery levels, then can check to see if root has ever been changed....

They are going to get the last laugh here, we need BH man to talk to his connections and get us that update for us to try.
No they can't check to see if you've ever had root unless they physically looked at your phone. As far as the update is concerned, you'll be fine.
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And how can we find out if they even updated the phone, i'm new to this phone but already i want to throw it in a river and go back to Blackberry's which worked 10,000 times better and were so much easier. How would i know these things? Can anyone help?

Menu -> About this phone???-> OS 1.6 <- if you see that, or something close to that, you have been updated.

Oh someone else that has a behold II around, please just tell him
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I decided to walk on the dark side and rooted my phone. Not going to wait on T-Mo to fix thier stuff.
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What if you have 1.5? I'm new to this as well, before I had the sidekick 08.
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The easiest and fastest way to find out if you have touchwiz running, the app tray is on the left of the screen and you click on the small arrow and drag it to the right to open it. You should also have 3 different home screens, not a single image stretched across multiple screens.

The update you need to see is from before. If you recently got the phone chances are you did not get the update. (My father bought 2 of these phones yesterday neither phone had the earlier update.) Go to menu>>about phone here look under baseband version you may have to scroll a bit to see it. It needs to say T939UVJA3(I think is the most recent). If yours does not say that then head here and follow directions:
http://androidforums.com/samsung-behold-2/54385-updated-odin-images-available-latest-t-mobile-stock-2.html

If your firmware version say 1.5 and the baseband version reads as above then you *should* receive the update with out much problem. There is a way for them to detect if you are currently running a rooted phone. Not sure the exact process but from my understanding they can have the update run a simple script to see if a root action is allowed such as changing into the root directory of the phone.

To test if you have root is to install a good terminal app (I use better terminal) and type "su" without the quotes. if you don't have root it should say something like permission denied I think.
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I will be making Odin packages for the Samsung 1.6 OTA update, but I will need the help of 1 or 2 community members with the update already installed. See my post for more info: http://androidforums.com/samsung-behold-2/54385-updated-odin-images-available-latest-t-mobile-stock-2.html#post1000875
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"How to ensure you get the updated"

Lol you sound like samsung.

So did you get the update? Nope!
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"How to ensure you get the updated"

Lol you sound like samsung.

So did you get the update? Nope!
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at least he is telling everyone, get real dude, i know Ur pissed but c'mon its not his fault, don't be such douche...pardon my french

i called up yesterday and got a hold of a t mobile Representative so that i could make sure my IMEI was right
this is what she told me:
1. If my phone was rooted it would never and will never get any updates
2. touchwiz has to be running as standard
3. all 3rd party homes must be removed completely from both the phone and sd
4. factory reset to completely renew the phone(i asked about this and this is what she said, if for any reason the phone still has knowledge of you running a third party home then it tells t mobile that touchwiz isn't running thus no update notification

i never received the first update so I'm trying out how that works but i already did all the above steps and still no update

........ saddened by the lack of care for these poor electronics, hopefully galaxy will mover to 2.0 can only hope right
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How could this be legal to forbid updates to people who install alternative launchers?
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Simple:

The update also patches TouchWiz. If it doesn't find TouchWiz running, the patch freaks out and doesn't apply (This is the same as using a NoCD patch on a game and then trying to apply a patch: The patch finds the wrong file, and doesn't apply)

It's not a matter of legal. It's just the easiest way to send the patch out.
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The update also patches TouchWiz. If it doesn't find TouchWiz running, the patch freaks out and doesn't apply (This is the same as using a NoCD patch on a game and then trying to apply a patch: The patch finds the wrong file, and doesn't apply)

It's not a matter of legal. It's just the easiest way to send the patch out.
It's alot like windows not updating if your running Firefox, or a other non IE browser (which would NOT be legal). Certainly I'd understand if you REMOVED twiz, but if you're just installed a second/replacement launcher?
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finally, i'm out of samsung bh2 forever...switch to htc hd2, and love it.
comon people, trash all bh2. It's POS.
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finally, i'm out of samsung bh2 forever...switch to htc hd2, and love it.
comon people, trash all bh2. It's POS.
You could have waited a little longer for a better Android phone. WinMo is fail. Sorry.
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You could have waited a little longer for a better Android phone. WinMo is fail. Sorry.
I will never leave Android! I am going with the Droid X!
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The Samsung Behold 2 for T-Mobile greatly improves on the first version of the phone by adding Android to the mix, providing for a powerful combination of hardware and sowftware. With Android, Samsung's custom TouchWiz UI, a 3.2-inch AMOLED Tou... Read More

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