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Old July 11th, 2010, 10:54 PM   #51 (permalink)
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So how much is Samsung paying you anyways?

And OMAP > hummingbird (which is sadly > the snapdragon my Droid Incredible has) But for most people in real world use, they're all basically the same (except there are DRIVERS for Snapdragon and OMAP).
The Hummingbird outperforms everything available right now.

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As I said OMAP > Hummingbird. Deal

Again, unless your a gamer, it really doesn't matter. For everything else they basically have the same performance. Probably still OMAP > Hummingbird > Snapdragon, but it really isn't enough of an advantage to mean anything.
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As I said OMAP > Hummingbird. Deal

Again, unless your a gamer, it really doesn't matter. For everything else they basically have the same performance. Probably still OMAP > Hummingbird > Snapdragon, but it really isn't enough of an advantage to mean anything.
That article clearly states that 2.2 boosts performance by 300%. Imagine how the Galaxy S will shoot to the top once it receives 2.2. You are right though, all of the 1ghz processors are very similar, but the Hummingbird is said to put out 3x the GPU performance of its competitors. So while they all might perform similarly in day to day processes, I still think my statement is pretty accurate when I say the Hummingbird is the best all around CPU out there right now.
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That article clearly states that 2.2 boosts performance by 300%. Imagine how the Galaxy S will shoot to the top once it receives 2.2. You are right though, all of the 1ghz processors are very similar, but the Hummingbird is said to put out 3x the GPU performance of its competitors. So while they all might perform similarly in day to day processes, I still think my statement is pretty accurate when I say the Hummingbird is the best all around CPU out there right now.
But the Motorola Shadow, aka the Droid X is above the Galaxy S (1,100 to 750, or so). The X is running 2.1 on an omap 3640 chip. And OMAP procs have traditionally been very amiable to overclocking (should anyone want the battery to last 45 between charges).
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the smarter person always uses sources to site his ramblings.

Otherwise, that person is just rambling off their mind.
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But the Motorola Shadow, aka the Droid X is above the Galaxy S (1,100 to 750, or so). The X is running 2.1 on an omap 3640 chip. And OMAP procs have traditionally been very amiable to overclocking (should anyone want the battery to last 45 between charges).
Ah I missed that... gotcha. I'd be interested to see actual results from users once these phones are released. Either way, the Galaxy S will be far better than anything else TMo carries by a long shot, including that POS MyTouch Slide.
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Ah I missed that... gotcha. I'd be interested to see actual results from users once these phones are rele ased. Either way, the Galaxy S will be far better than anything else TMo carries by a long shot, including that POS MyTouch Slide.
Yah, they need to get the Desire or N1.
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Yah, they need to get the Desire or N1.
Well once the stores actually start selling the N1, it will probably be fairly outdated. It will still be one of the top phones though.

But yeah, TMobile needs to start getting on board with some top phones. The Galaxy S and the Slide are a good start though.
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So how much is Samsung paying you anyways?

And OMAP > hummingbird (which is sadly > the snapdragon my Droid Incredible has) But for most people in real world use, they're all basically the same (except there are DRIVERS for Snapdragon and OMAP).
That's rather debatable, the OMAP>HummingBird thing.

OMAP 1ghz processor hasn't been put against Hummingbird 1ghz yet I don't think.

Either way both are definitely better than snapdragon in any case.
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I heard that the Hummingbird actually runs at approx 1.2GHz. Can anyone confirm this?
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That and the best processor in the world of smart phones.
lol that is just not true. It's your opinion and that's totally cool but it is simply your opinion nothing more and certainly not a fact.
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I heard that the Hummingbird actually runs at approx 1.2GHz. Can anyone confirm this?
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why the f___ care about the processor!

Samsung will not support it once the next phone is ready.

The sega dreamcast had a better processor than the PS1 but the PS! outlived it.

buy a psp or ds if you wanna play little games......... me I will do it on my 55'' TV (vizio with AMOLED technology I might add) and my XBOX360.

I tried being ok with you spiz but really your love affair with Samsung is sickening.

It's suckers like you they plan on selling their next phone to in 6 months and I bet you will be on the Galaxy S board raving that their Dual core processor is 1.5x faster than the competition........ IT"S CALLED OVER/UNDER CLOCKING PUTZ...... err spiz.

I bet my slide sees froyo months before your samsuck pos and that you will never see a samsuck release gingerbread for it and you will be boohooing begging someone to port the epic 4g or fascinate rom.

Watch............................................. .....TO BE CONTINUED
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That won't happen because the fascinate and epic won't see gingerbread if the vibrant doesn't and being a beting man (live in Vegas) I'd beat that never happens.

Side note: Galaxy s=galaxy social life (S-Life), so I wonder when they will bring a galaxy b=galaxy business life (B-Life). J/K
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That won't happen because the fascinate and epic won't see gingerbread if the vibrant doesn't and being a beting man (live in Vegas) I'd beat that never happens.

Side note: Galaxy s=galaxy social life (S-Life), so I wonder when they will bring a galaxy b=galaxy business life (B-Life). J/K
I don't think that is true.

I see Sprint and Verizon having the balls to pressure samsuck into the update (like sprint did with the moment) at&t could care less about any update that is not from apple.

If Tmo don't pressure them for it then it won't come and Tmo is ok with that because it means more money for them and Samsuck.
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Samsung has already stated that all galaxy s phones will run the same os period! The carriers have only been allowed to add apps not make changes to the system or the way updates are release then pushed. Samsung will provide the update to all galaxy s phones or none believe it or not. There is absolutely zero chance one will get an os update and others won't, now maintenance updates are different as small updates will need to happen to keep the phone running smooth across the many different networks running different tech.
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The same samsung that stated the Behold II will see Android 2.0.......

THAT SAMSUNG?
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True but this isn't a promise to update! It's a promise that IF one gets an os update they all will, but I never said samsung would or wouldn't be doing updates.

BTW you should Notice that all the variations say galaxys on the back none say vibrant or epic or captivate or fascinate. No hardware or security differences at all! LISTEN IT IS NOT THE BEHOLD 2! So stop comparing the two. The phone is great...it's samsung as a company that sucks.
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True but this isn't a promise to update! It's a promise that IF one gets an os update they all will, but I never said samsung would or wouldn't be doing updates.

BTW you should Notice that all the variations say galaxys on the back none say vibrant or epic or captivate or fascinate. No hardware or security differences at all! LISTEN IT IS NOT THE BEHOLD 2! So stop comparing the two. The phone is great...it's samsung as a company that sucks.
Oh I have no doubt that is it great hardware.

I am jealous of it at the moment, but I know in the end I made the right decision with the slide because it will be supported either via HTC or the community.
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Agreed! I've been so happy with my slide. it's been helping to keep me away fro the tech blogs...a little, because I'm finally content with my phone so no more endless searches trying to make my phone useable like I had with the b2. I haven't even rooted it and have absolutely no plans to do so. I love the mt3gs stock, with the addition on launcher pro of course.
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Oh I have no doubt that is it great hardware.

I am jealous of it at the moment, but I know in the end I made the right decision with the slide because it will be supported either via HTC or the community.
Do you think before you post? Do you honestly believe that Samsung will drop support for this phone? Do you really not think that the Galaxy S line won't be supported by the community? The same phone across all four carriers and 109 other countries. Really? You say that my love for Samsung is sickening, but to be honest, I don't even like Samsung all that much. The Galaxy S is a great phone, and I recognize that.

On the other hand, what is sickening is your blind hatred for Samsung that leads you to random baseless posts.

Will you be upset when HTC drops support for this phone because of the lackluster sales? We know Samsung will continue support because of how widespread the phone is being pushed, and they know they're on the radar. Common sense my friend.
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Do you think before you post? Do you honestly believe that Samsung will drop support for this phone? Do you really not think that the Galaxy S line won't be supported by the community? The same phone across all four carriers and 109 other countries. Really? You say that my love for Samsung is sickening, but to be honest, I don't even like Samsung all that much. The Galaxy S is a great phone, and I recognize that.

On the other hand, what is sickening is your blind hatred for Samsung that leads you to random baseless posts.

Will you be upset when HTC drops support for this phone because of the lackluster sales? We know Samsung will continue support because of how widespread the phone is being pushed, and they know they're on the radar. Common sense my friend.
The original mytouch, nexus one, hero/eris,and even the G1 (via community) will see android 2.2.

Name me a Samsung product prior to the Galaxy line that will see 2.2....

Behold 2........ nope.
Moment........ nope.
Galaxy i5700.... nope.

The Galaxy may be widespread but the store down the street from me still had 9 of their 10 in stock at 8pm tonight........... but the Slide was still on backorder

Its good for you that this phone is the same on all carriers so if one is supported they all will be............. kinda like HTC has been since day one (case in point 2.2 ported to the grand daddy 1).
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Maybe if you say it three times it will come true.
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Maybe if you say it three times it will come true.
Oh look, your hatred for Samsung is spewing all over the internet again. Enjoy your mid range device.
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Oh look, your hatred for Samsung is spewing all over the internet again. Enjoy your mid range device.
I have full reason to hate samsung and have no issue saying I hate samsung.

The phone is pretty sweet but as far as support goes I will not trust any company outside of HTC and its community. No Motorola and damn sure no Samsung. I had a Highlight and it had a lot of bugs , I had a Behold II and it had more bugs than a Super 8 motel, I even had an old phone on Sprint back in the day and the screen stopped working on it for no reason......twice.

My slide is not without its flaws...... my battery cover is loose as someones bowels after eating a pack of laxatives...... but 2-sided tape fixed that.

But in 9 months the only thing that will fix your phone's flaw is this:

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Gingerbread-Men/Detail.aspx


Enjoy being ****ed by samsung again
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I have full reason to hate samsung and have no issue saying I hate samsung.

The phone is pretty sweet but as far as support goes I will not trust any company outside of HTC and its community. No Motorola and damn sure no Samsung. I had a Highlight and it had a lot of bugs , I had a Behold II and it had more bugs than a Super 8 motel, I even had an old phone on Sprint back in the day and the screen stopped working on it for no reason......twice.

My slide is not without its flaws...... my battery cover is loose as someones bowels after eating a pack of laxatives...... but 2-sided tape fixed that.

But in 9 months the only thing that will fix your phone's flaw is this:

Gingerbread Men Recipe - Allrecipes.com


Enjoy being ****ed by samsung again
Oh I have no problem with you hating Samsung or any other company for that matter. But when it blinds you to common sense, it actually becomes quite obvious. Comparing this phone to any of Samsung's previous phones is just plain silly.

In 9 months, there's a good chance I'll have upgraded yet again, so this will be a moot point. But I am confident Samsung will support this phone even though I don't plan on using it beyond 2.2.
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Oh I have no problem with you hating Samsung or any other company for that matter. But when it blinds you to common sense, it actually becomes quite obvious. Comparing this phone to any of Samsung's previous phones is just plain silly.

In 9 months, there's a good chance I'll have upgraded yet again, so this will be a moot point. But I am confident Samsung will support this phone even though I don't plan on using it beyond 2.2.
I have said all day the Vibraint is sick. No doubt.

But I refuse to give them my money and let them think I will support them repeating history.

You can look at it 2 ways:

1) Samsung will support this phone because so many people purchased it and will be outraged if they don't........... I hope this happens.

2) Samsung will feel that if people will support them even after what they did with the moment, behold II, and i5700 thus making them billions on galaxy s devices that the public will do it again if they drop support......... i fear this will happen.

I know I will be out of my slide in 6-9 months as well and will do it for free.

See the good thing about my slide is, as much as I like it I know and T-mobile knows it has flaws.

That damn battery cover sucks!

All it will take is 3 complaints in 3 months to get me a "no lemon" claim.

I already have exchange 1 out of the way due to the wifi dropping signal.

Bring on that dual core HTC monster.
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I see what you're saying about Samsung's support, trust me... I was a BH2 owner and was pissed at the news of no more support. So much in fact that I almost decided to not get the Galaxy S.

But here's the thing, I don't think they're going to support this phone because of what happened to the BH2. I think they're going to support this phone because of how much they're putting into it. While Samsung may have lost a lot of respect online due to the BH2 fiasco, they are still not a dumb company. Being their first flagship Android device, it's quite obvious from a business perspective that they have every intention of supporting this device for some time to come.

It didn't have the biggest opening day of sales for TMobile, but once it starts hitting the other, bigger carriers (who are much better at marketing than TMo), it will get bigger and bigger, thus creating a following too big to ignore.

That, and lets not forget that they released the source, proving that they have every intention of allowing the community to have full reign on any kind of programming they want. So if anything, the community will keep this phone going.
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I see what you're saying about Samsung's support, trust me... I was a BH2 owner and was pissed at the news of no more support. So much in fact that I almost decided to not get the Galaxy S.

But here's the thing, I don't think they're going to support this phone because of what happened to the BH2. I think they're going to support this phone because of how much they're putting into it. While Samsung may have lost a lot of respect online due to the BH2 fiasco, they are still not a dumb company. Being their first flagship Android device, it's quite obvious from a business perspective that they have every intention of supporting this device for some time to come.

It didn't have the biggest opening day of sales for TMobile, but once it starts hitting the other, bigger carriers (who are much better at marketing than TMo), it will get bigger and bigger, thus creating a following too big to ignore.

That, and lets not forget that they released the source, proving that they have every intention of allowing the community to have full reign on any kind of programming they want. So if anything, the community will keep this phone going.
It wont sell great on Verizon. By the time it comes out it will be buried by the Droid X, 2, and Incredible.

The keyboard may sell it to Sprint customers but I am not to sure about that because of the Moment (sure it got a 2.1 update but how can a phone with an 800MHz processor not be updated to atleast 2.2).

Nobody goes to At&t for android.

I don't think Samsung is putting that much money into it. I seen the slide on TV 3 times today in 2 hours, Vibrant once.

Development wise they did not spend a whole lot because its the same on every version only with a different shell. So divide the development cost by 4 and that is what the Vibrant cost.
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My girlfriend just got the Vibrant after I complained to Tmobile about her not getting a 2.1 update on her Cliq XT and it was a free exchange. Should be here by the 21st.
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I had a Behold II and it had more bugs than a Super 8 motel

lol, Now that is something that you will be remembered by for centuries to come. lol.

Damn I love hating samsung
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I think this is what happened with samsung.

Bill noticed all the angry beholder's complaining about a promised update.
His programmer said there was no way in hell that we could get 2.1 on the behold II.

Then a shining star came to them and said, well if we twirk the touchwiz interface, we could get 2.1 on the behold II.

And Bill said "Or......we can make a new phone that has a 2.1 on it, and then we can call the upgraded UI, "Touchwiz 3.0" and we can then alter it to work on all carriers. We will make a fortune!!!"

And the programmer asked about the beholders and Bill said "What about them? How about you just give them a few minor updates and slap on 1.6, that should keep them quite happy"

and Bill finally said, "Also lets distract them and put Avatar on there, so that way we can be associated with the best movie this year."

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I think this is what happened with samsung.

Bill noticed all the angry beholder's complaining about a promised update.
His programmer said there was no way in hell that we could get 2.1 on the behold II.

Then a shining star came to them and said, well if twirk the touchwiz interface, we could get 2.1 on the behold II.

And Bill said "Or......we can make a new phone that has a 2.1 on, and then we can call the upgraded UI, "Touchwiz 3.0" and we can then alter it to work on all carriers. We will make a fortune!!!"

And the programmer asked about the beholders and Bill said "What about them? How about you just give them a few minor updates and slap on 1.6, that should keep them quite happy"

and Bill finally said, "Also lets distract them and put Avatar on there, so that way we can be associated with the best movie this year."

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that way we can be associated with the best movie this year."

They put hot tub time machine on it too????

Now I am second guessing getting the slide
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They put hot tub time machine on it too????

Now I am second guessing getting the slide

If it makes you feel better, I can put the Hot tub time machine on your slide for you!




I can maybe even throw in SALT


O come on, dont give up on the slide,

for all you know, those two movies my be part of bloatware and it just sits there taking up space on your sd card.

Keep the faith alive, dont give into their evil ways.
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If it makes you feel better, I can put the Hot tub time machine on your slide for you!




I can maybe even throw in SALT


O come on, dont give up on the slide,

for all you know, those two movies my be part of bloatware and it just sits there taking up space on your sd card.

Keep the faith alive, dont give into their evil ways.
It was pure sarcasm.

I still love my Slide.
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rotfl Yeah I'm pretty sure the rest of us got it. Guess it flew over dudes head.
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Well I'm glad for one thing,

Now that streetman doesn't have a behold II, he won't need a reason for comming back to this thread, unless he is like those old high school jocks that come back to watch football games even after he graduated, and talks about all the things he did in his days.

Ill give him the benefit of the doubt tho.
Didn't behold_this get rid of his BH2 a long time ago?
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lol as a matter of fact...no I did not "get rid" of that pos. I still have my b2...along with my free mt3gs ROTFL! Don't use it cause well I don't have to! but guess what bud I can post to any forum I want, so what the hell is your point?! You think you're cute, huh?
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Well there is a difference between coming back and helping people, and coming back to tell people how bad they have it.

That guy was just all kinds of wrong.

By the way, lol, just because the government has shut down pirated places like ninjavideo.net, I would like to clarify that when I said that i would put "Salt" on your phones, I really meant the ingredient salt and not the movie with angelina jolie
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