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Old July 17th, 2010, 03:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Please Speak and be heard we should not have to eat a $379.00 lost because Samsung/ T-mobile are not honoring there promises.

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Old July 17th, 2010, 03:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Please Speak and be heard we should not have to eat a $379.00 lost because Samsung/ T-mobile are not honoring there promises.

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Old July 17th, 2010, 04:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Too late
Class action if you want to be heard something better than nothing may just get the update, released from contract, or another cell.
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Old July 17th, 2010, 04:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Class action if you want to be heard something better than nothing may just get the update, released from contract, or another cell.
True but how well will that go over usually in the end people have to have the receipt to show that they bought the item to get any piece of the action if we win.
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Old July 17th, 2010, 04:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If you bought the phone through tmo it is no problem at all getting a copy of the recepit
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Please Speak and be heard we should not have to eat a $379.00 lost because Samsung/ T-mobile are not honoring there promises.

I like your charisma, however you missed the big spark when everyone really was into trying to get the class action suit going.

It was great! We even had a petition going and EVERYONE was writing online about us.

We heard samsung first saying that they would no longer support the phone. Then we had them saying that they were looking into it. Then they pulled down the video from their site, and someone was lucky enough to get that video and we all downloaded it. Then samsung made the announcement that the behold II was not upgradable past 1.6 and that we were going to get 1.6.

Then BH_Man got pissed and tried to prove that the behold II could get 2.1, however since we lacked the source for the drivers, we could not get it properly functioning.

Then tmobile stops giving the updates over the air because of all the phones "bricking" and Tmobile had to replace them.


So I'm sorry, but this is all pretty much dead. We have 1.6, if you just bought your phone, then call tmobile and ask for the "loyalty department".

They can help you get another phone.

I did that and they gave me my full discount for the mytouchslide.
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Old July 19th, 2010, 11:39 AM   #7 (permalink)
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There is still a chance for a class action. Someone on the T-Mobile forums is trying to set one up. Is anyone interested?
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Old July 19th, 2010, 11:57 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Did you read the op's post in the link he provided? Or join the group in the link? This guy already has representation and most in this thread here are pissing all over him. Pm him and he'll give you details to get in touch with him and in on the action.
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Do we know who actually made the video claiming the 2.x upgradability?
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Do we know who actually made the video claiming the 2.x upgradability?
It was Samsung's own commercial.

Could someone please post it to youtube though?
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It was Samsung's own commercial.

Could someone please post it to youtube though?
Eugene threw it up there: YouTube - Samsung Promo for Behold 2 that was Pulled for Promised 2.0 Update!
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hmmm...if you tried to go from messaging, to twitter, and then tried to return that important call (like in the video) the dialer would just FC.
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That wasn't the only time they mentioned 2.0... There was a 30 second spot that had the phone twisting around in space that mentioned being upgraded to Android 2.0.

TMobile says THEY never claimed it was getting Android 2.0, that was Samsung's claims. Samsung writing checks that TMobile can't cash should not be the consumer's problem. That's would be like Taco Bell telling the victims of e.coli posioning to take it up with their produce suppliers, claiming that Taco Bell just assembles the food, they don't grow it and therefore have no control over it.
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Can't post the video to YouTube by the way, Samsung will have YouTube pull it off on copyright infringement claims, yet they'll tell you they didn't make the video...oh the twists and turns. You know most days for a company that doesn't really make videos, such as Samsung since they make products, they'll hire out a production company to make a commercial or such. That is where they are passing the buck. But there isn't copyright infringement going on, just to let you know, when posted to YouTube.
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I'm down for a class action suit. We can't allow these people to get away with lying.
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Old August 21st, 2010, 07:57 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Can't post the video to YouTube by the way, Samsung will have YouTube pull it off on copyright infringement claims, yet they'll tell you they didn't make the video...oh the twists and turns. You know most days for a company that doesn't really make videos, such as Samsung since they make products, they'll hire out a production company to make a commercial or such. That is where they are passing the buck. But there isn't copyright infringement going on, just to let you know, when posted to YouTube.
bh_man has that video on youtube and its still on his youtube here is the link YouTube - Getting Screwed By Samsung
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The best way to do damage to samsung is by not buying their shi$$y product .like some of us did. Now you got some dumb people who bought the samsuck vibrant etc becuase in their little heads they thought samsuck wouldnt do them wrong . Guess what . Where is 2.2 on your beloved vibrant .
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Looks like they are doing it again on the Vibrant....
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why cant the new customer see what going on . Is it because they do not do research before buying a phone.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 02:25 PM   #20 (permalink)
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It's a shame that Samsung keeps bringing out some of the nicer Androids on T-Mobile. At least the Nexus S isn't reliant on Samsung for its upgrades, but I still wish Google had stuck with HTC.
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t-mobile can make all the claims they want about how it's samsung problem and not their's. but the reality of it is that they're both douchbag companies and deserve nothing but dumping. I personally got the code from them (I claimed I was moving out of the country and needed the code to use it abroad,) unlocked the damn thing, and switched to at&t.
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Regardless of updates samsung does make some of the better android phones. My question is why not just let it go? I still love my stock 1.5 BH2
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Regardless of updates samsung does make some of the better android phones. My question is why not just let it go? I still love my stock 1.5 BH2
Because most of us hate the stock 1.5.
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I know...ive trolled here for quite some time. Now my question is why? I can see touch wiz being a bit annoying, but an official update would be 2.x with touchwiz
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I know...ive trolled here for quite some time. Now my question is why? I can see touch wiz being a bit annoying, but an official update would be 2.x with touchwiz
There is a bunch of software that won't run on Android 1.5 or 1.6 and there are other features that would be nice to have that are stock on the newer Android releases like voice commands.

Touchwiz is for the most part irrelevant because it would be rooted.
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Yeah some of the 2.1 fluff on my cliq is cool and nice to have, but not needed, or worth throwing a fit about. What software are you referring to?
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Yeah some of the 2.1 fluff on my cliq is cool and nice to have, but not needed, or worth throwing a fit about. What software are you referring to?
software like apps. most now only run on 2.X+ and most have dropped support for 1.6 and lower
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Samsung Vibrant Froyo Upgrade Coming Jan. 21 | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

In the future, T-Mobile aims to update all of its phones to new versions of Google's Android OS within 3-5 months after Google makes the OS version public, Brodman said.

HA! Yea right.
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I contacted MicBeast from XDA-DEVELOPERS, and mentioned to him, all the problems we had with our Behold II, as well as links to the video and the online petition ( I didn't realize we had over 1600 signatures ! Wow. ), now that there's a class action lawsuit open against Sammy/TMo ( makes me a little sad, but hey they know they haven't done the right thing here ) because of the Froyo debacle on the Galaxy S line.

Hopefully what we've gone through, will draw attention to the situation between customers and handset makers/carriers, and getting updates out there. Who knows, with a little luck Google might pipe up and speak out as well ( but I'm not holding my breath ).
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software like apps. most now only run on 2.X+ and most have dropped support for 1.6 and lower

All my favorite apps I have on both phones. Besides there is usually a bunch of developers making apps that do the same thing.
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