I am sorry some of you paid good money for the behold 2 but it's a crap Android phone. Most likely the worst Android that will ever be made (hopefully). I have used the G1, Mytouch, Hero, Droid, and the Nexus one. I won the Behold 2 from Samsung and I can't use it at all. I won't go into detail about all things that suck about this phone; I am sure most of you know that already. I have emailed Samsung daily for weeks with no real support on the problems of the phone. I spoke with T-mo support many times and they did not even know the phone did not have a external LED for missed calls. My biggest problem is that I feel like people are getting taken advantage of. T-mo and Samsung are selling this phone as a high end Android and it's not. I am not a hater there are a few good things about the phone and they could be made better with many bug fixes and Android 2.1. So, Bottom line! the phone is cheap and full of bugs with an old OS. It should be free with a 2 year contract or maybe $99 without contract. Please don't buy this phone if your looking at Android. T-mo is a good company but lets send them a message that we won't buy crap like this and we will protect other T-mo users from falling into the "Behold 2 is a high end Android because it has an AMOLED screen" trap. We want nice phones with the latest version of Android.
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I sort of have to agree with this though not so much in the almost venomous tone. My experience with the Behold II was to say the least, painful. With the battery issues and sluggish performance, I grew fed up with it. I gave it to my brother (who had an even worse phone, used Blackberry 8100 that was falling apart literally). He enjoys the phone (obviously considering the former), but even he sees the performance issues. Samsung really needs to step up to the plate and fix the problems with this phone.
The behold 2 is more or less an entry level android phone. If you're new to the game it's exciting and offers a great alternative to the other operating systems on the market. It's definitely not for the power android users used to heavy customizations. It's like a starter house when you're making your first foray into the land of mortgage payments.
Albeit a low level entrant, it does offers a rich multimedia experience and has a few redeeming qualities other android handsets could take note of.
I like the phone. I went from the touch pro2 down to this due to the fact that I had barely used the keyboard in the other one. Plus, once you get the BH_man rom it works really fast. The only thing that I don't like is the battery life right now and the onscreen keyboard. The HTC touch pro 2 has a better on screen keyboard than this one.
I like the phone. I went from the touch pro2 down to this due to the fact that I had barely used the keyboard in the other one. Plus, once you get the BH_man rom it works really fast. The only thing that I don't like is the battery life right now and the onscreen keyboard. The HTC touch pro 2 has a better on screen keyboard than this one.
well i won mine for free las year. and if 2.1 dont hurry up and come, i'm selling it and getting the blackberry bold 9700 which i was intending on getting before i won the behold 2
I don't know why but I've never had all the problems most people complain about with their behold2s. I was a heavy windows mobile used a lot of cooked roms on the phone I had which was also a samsung. Going from that I knew kinda what I would have to do to make this phone more usable. So I rooted my phone, deleted bloat ware, got and home replacement app, task killer, and finally an over clocking widget. After doing that I have only had the virbration problem twice in two months and a random restart once. Since I could us the over clocking widget to make sure my phone would be down clocked when I wasn't using it I easily could go from 6am to when I got to bed around midnight on one charge. Plus that was with heavy use such as using internet, google maps for directions using gps, a lot of texting, and a few phone calls. By the end of the night I may be down to between 10 and 30% battery but who cares I'm home and going to sleep so it can charge now. I mean if you want and Iphone out of your behold 2 sell it and go buy one. I've read plenty of forums on all of t-mobiles phones and if there is one thing they have in common it's that every forum there is always someone that wishes they had a better phone, they hate theirs, t-mo falsely advertised the phone they bought, or go knows what else. I like my phone great camera, great screen, built better than my last samsung phone, and I hardly have any problems with the usability.
Yup. Everything he said was either A) Incorrect or B) The case for most Android phones running on older software.
In my opinion, next to the Droid and N1, it's the best Android phone available. And as Shawn mentioned, even those phones have their issues. In fact, every piece of technology has its issues. Android is new... give it time to evolve. Some people will just never be satisfied. Sad.
He also never stuck with one phone, so I can just imagine all the bad things he has said about those phones also.
The key word was USED. I only own the G1 and the Behold 2. My rooted G1 is still the phone I use everyday. I would use the Behold 2 more if Samsung or Tmo would just fix it. The last time tried to mount it to the computer the SD card kept un-mounting. I stand by my point that this phone should not be sold as a high end Android. As far as only posting once, I have a life. I don't spend all day looking for people to insult and call trolls on forums. I post when I think I can contribute. In this case I think people looking for the Andorid experience should stay away from the Behold 2.
The key word was USED. I only own the G1 and the Behold 2. My rooted G1 is still the phone I use everyday. I would use the Behold 2 more if Samsung or Tmo would just fix it. The last time tried to mount it to the computer the SD card kept un-mounting. I stand by my point that this phone should not be sold as a high end Android. As far as only posting once, I have a life. I don't spend all day looking for people to insult and call trolls on forums. I post when I think I can contribute. In this case I think people looking for the Andorid experience should stay away from the Behold 2.
The unmounting issue is caused by a faulty cable, it really has nothing to do with the phone. I had that same experience as well, suffice it say though it was the same cable that shipped with the handset and that's just unacceptable.
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The unmounting issue is caused by a faulty cable, it really has nothing to do with the phone. I had that same experience as well, suffice it say though it was the same cable that shipped with the handset and that's just unacceptable.
Yeah I had a faulty cable that was boxed with the phone as well. That is pretty sad. Luckily a lot of devices are using that type of USB connection now and I had a spare one.
The key word was USED. I only own the G1 and the Behold 2. My rooted G1 is still the phone I use everyday. I would use the Behold 2 more if Samsung or Tmo would just fix it. The last time tried to mount it to the computer the SD card kept un-mounting. I stand by my point that this phone should not be sold as a high end Android. As far as only posting once, I have a life. I don't spend all day looking for people to insult and call trolls on forums. I post when I think I can contribute. In this case I think people looking for the Andorid experience should stay away from the Behold 2.
You came to a forum where everyone already owns a behold 2 to warn us about owning a behold 2?
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The unmounting issue is caused by a faulty cable, it really has nothing to do with the phone. I had that same experience as well, suffice it say though it was the same cable that shipped with the handset and that's just unacceptable.
My unmounting issue is caused by several drops , but it is still hanging in there.. Put the Galaxy rom on it, and swype. Much better!! I actually type faster now.
FYI, I think you are misinformed. This phone is actually awesome, there are things that can be improved, but overall it' a solid product (after you install BH_MAN's rom at least). I believe I can say this, coming from various platforms, SE P800, P900, P910i, P1i, Nokia, Blackberry 8320, 8900, 9700. I holds it's own again other phones, and it's not as pricey as the others. I got my P1i for $800 when it came out, I got this for $149. Ony other android I'll consider over this is the xperia x10, which likely will cost me $800, and assuming it's 3g works with tmobile.
samsung did a good job with this phone hardware-wise...software, well there are fixes out there (bh_man)
My experience with the Behold 2 really has been a huge disappointment. Like many others, I looked forward to this phone and the promise, i.e. hype, of Android. The Behold 2 "Experiment" by Samsung and T-Mobile has just opened my eyes to the plain fact THEY HAVE NO INCENTIVE TO UPDATE A RELEASED PHONE. One of the main tenets of Android was supposed to be this open source, anyone-can-update-your-own-phone mantra; hardly the case from what I have read in the forums. This product was way over promised by T-Mobile and Samsung. I had worse reception at home, more dropped calls, consistent-random reboots with the Behold 2. Never has there been clear and consistent GOOD customer service, neither from Samsung nor T-Mobile; service reps with no clue this phone was even an Android based system, no idea if any updates were coming out.
I have cut my losses on the Behold 2; I sold it and am awaiting a move to Verizon. My $0.02 is to sell your phone on Craigslist or Nextwork.com (that is how I unloaded mine) or some other similar site. That is the only way to send a message to Samsung and T-Mobile; flood the street with used Behold 2's thus, reducing any incentive for new/current customers to but a new Behold 2. The simple responsible thing we can all due here is attempt to educate other consumers to, what I would basically say is a product, Behold 2, not ready for market and services from T-Mobile/Samsung, not ready to support their customers post-purchase.
I will NEVER buy another Samsung product, again.
I will soon be leaving T-Mobile after over 9 YEARS as a customer.
My experience with the Behold 2 really has been a huge disappointment. Like many others, I looked forward to this phone and the promise, i.e. hype, of Android. The Behold 2 "Experiment" by Samsung and T-Mobile has just opened my eyes to the plain fact THEY HAVE NO INCENTIVE TO UPDATE A RELEASED PHONE. One of the main tenets of Android was supposed to be this open source, anyone-can-update-your-own-phone mantra; hardly the case from what I have read in the forums. This product was way over promised by T-Mobile and Samsung. I had worse reception at home, more dropped calls, consistent-random reboots with the Behold 2. Never has there been clear and consistent GOOD customer service, neither from Samsung nor T-Mobile; service reps with no clue this phone was even an Android based system, no idea if any updates were coming out.
I have cut my losses on the Behold 2; I sold it and am awaiting a move to Verizon. My $0.02 is to sell your phone on Craigslist or Nextwork.com (that is how I unloaded mine) or some other similar site. That is the only way to send a message to Samsung and T-Mobile; flood the street with used Behold 2's thus, reducing any incentive for new/current customers to but a new Behold 2. The simple responsible thing we can all due here is attempt to educate other consumers to, what I would basically say is a product, Behold 2, not ready for market and services from T-Mobile/Samsung, not ready to support their customers post-purchase.
I will NEVER buy another Samsung product, again.
I will soon be leaving T-Mobile after over 9 YEARS as a customer.
Um, excuse me for posting my opinion, but that is what it was. If you have a problem with the fact that my experience was disappointing, it is your problem. My post was no ad; recognize the fact that another user HAS BEEN GREATLY DIS-SATISFIED WITH THE PRODUCT AND SERVICES. Why is it an ad to express that and what I did about it and what else I am going to do? Who's to say you are not some TMO/Samsung employee talking up the product and service line? I have not and don't assume you are because you like the product.
My experience with the Behold 2 really has been a huge disappointment. Like many others, I looked forward to this phone and the promise, i.e. hype, of Android. The Behold 2 "Experiment" by Samsung and T-Mobile has just opened my eyes to the plain fact THEY HAVE NO INCENTIVE TO UPDATE A RELEASED PHONE. One of the main tenets of Android was supposed to be this open source, anyone-can-update-your-own-phone mantra; hardly the case from what I have read in the forums. This product was way over promised by T-Mobile and Samsung. I had worse reception at home, more dropped calls, consistent-random reboots with the Behold 2. Never has there been clear and consistent GOOD customer service, neither from Samsung nor T-Mobile; service reps with no clue this phone was even an Android based system, no idea if any updates were coming out.
I have cut my losses on the Behold 2; I sold it and am awaiting a move to Verizon. My $0.02 is to sell your phone on Craigslist or Nextwork.com (that is how I unloaded mine) or some other similar site. That is the only way to send a message to Samsung and T-Mobile; flood the street with used Behold 2's thus, reducing any incentive for new/current customers to but a new Behold 2. The simple responsible thing we can all due here is attempt to educate other consumers to, what I would basically say is a product, Behold 2, not ready for market and services from T-Mobile/Samsung, not ready to support their customers post-purchase.
I will NEVER buy another Samsung product, again.
I will soon be leaving T-Mobile after over 9 YEARS as a customer.
I have had no issues with this phone. I left verizon because of poor customer service and dropped calls with tmo havent lost one. But I don't go to their fourms and say bla bla bla I just left them
I have had no issues with this phone. I left verizon because of poor customer service and dropped calls with tmo havent lost one. But I don't go to their fourms and say bla bla bla I just left them
...and what do you care if I do? My post suggests a means by which to get the attention of TMO & Samsung is to not buy their products and services.
...and what do you care if I do? My post suggests a means by which to get the attention of TMO & Samsung is to not buy their products and services.
wow chill I was just saying you can have problems no matter where you go and I really don't think they come here and read anything anyone writes. If you are trying to warn others its too late because its a Behold 2 fourm
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Um, excuse me for posting my opinion, but that is what it was. If you have a problem with the fact that my experience was disappointing, it is your problem. My post was no ad; recognize the fact that another user HAS BEEN GREATLY DIS-SATISFIED WITH THE PRODUCT AND SERVICES. Why is it an ad to express that and what I did about it and what else I am going to do? Who's to say you are not some TMO/Samsung employee talking up the product and service line? I have not and don't assume you are because you like the product.
You're absolutely right you should be free to post your dis_satisfaction , but posting it here where people are doing positive things with the phone was wrong of you , . I am 100% sure this forum is not run by T-mobile or Samsung , which is where you should have posted your complaints .
You did this knowing it would draw attention , did you really think posting here would hurt Samsung or T-mobile ?
You are just wasting development space , this is why I love xda , this post would have been moved to the general talk area ..
If you feel that dis_satisfied , why don't you email said companies over n over till you get an answer .. we just want to be left alone to push forward..... ..
Um, excuse me for posting my opinion, but that is what it was. If you have a problem with the fact that my experience was disappointing, it is your problem. My post was no ad; recognize the fact that another user HAS BEEN GREATLY DIS-SATISFIED WITH THE PRODUCT AND SERVICES. Why is it an ad to express that and what I did about it and what else I am going to do? Who's to say you are not some TMO/Samsung employee talking up the product and service line? I have not and don't assume you are because you like the product.
Why would you post a website that pays pennies on the dollar for used cellphones unless you have a vested interest?
I love my Behold 2. And I have used other android phones. My only dislike is every update Samsung gives you a crap demo of a game....And the button devoted to the cube thing...
Maybe mobileme goes to every forum/message board with this concocted "woe is me" smartphone story. Just plug in said phone and copy & paste the rest ...
My experience with the Behold 2 really has been a huge disappointment.
Entitled to your opinion, that's fine.
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ike many others, I looked forward to this phone and the promise, i.e. hype, of Android.
I'm confused. What about this phone is keeping you from the Android experience? What can't it do that others aside from the N1 and Droid can?
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The Behold 2 "Experiment" by Samsung and T-Mobile has just opened my eyes to the plain fact THEY HAVE NO INCENTIVE TO UPDATE A RELEASED PHONE.
Untrue. They've already said that the BH2 will receive 2.1. And of course there was the leaked info from Androidandme.com that every Android phone will be upgraded. Also, remember the brand new fancy commercial Samsung did on the BH2? Do you think they'd drop millions in advertisements if they had no plans to keep it going for the future?
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One of the main tenets of Android was supposed to be this open source, anyone-can-update-your-own-phone mantra; hardly the case from what I have read in the forums.
Clearly you weren't reading these forums. This forum is littered with how-to's regarding customizing your phone. Rooting or not, the phone is just like any other Android phone and can be completely customized to your tastes. And yes, it is open source. Where do you think the apps come from? Go find me a rooted iPhone that hasn't been destroyed.
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This product was way over promised by T-Mobile and Samsung.
It's still being advertised, as mentioned above. They have high expectations and good intentions for this phone. Many Samsung reps have relayed this info to many TMobile reps. It wasn't "over promised" in any way. It was hyped just as much and no less than every other Android phone.
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I had worse reception at home, more dropped calls, consistent-random reboots with the Behold 2.
What does this have to do with the phone? Did you ever consider doing some research on the causes of this? If you had bad reception from the beginning, you should have either A) asked for a replacement to see if it was indeed the phone or B) taken it back in exchange for another.
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Never has there been clear and consistent GOOD customer service, neither from Samsung nor T-Mobile; service reps with no clue this phone was even an Android based system, no idea if any updates were coming out.
I have cut my losses on the Behold 2; I sold it and am awaiting a move to Verizon.
Fair enough. Thanks for letting us know.
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My $0.02 is to sell your phone on Craigslist or Nextwork.com (that is how I unloaded mine) or some other similar site. That is the only way to send a message to Samsung and T-Mobile; flood the street with used Behold 2's thus, reducing any incentive for new/current customers to but a new Behold 2. The simple responsible thing we can all due here is attempt to educate other consumers to, what I would basically say is a product, Behold 2, not ready for market and services from T-Mobile/Samsung, not ready to support their customers post-purchase.
You do realize that you're in a forum where we actually like our BH2, right? This is a great place to make your phone better until Samsung and TMobile push 2.x to our phones. You are correct in that if no one buys a product, they will make a change. But people do like this phone and as people have already mentioned, it is one of the top Android phones aside from the N1 and Droid.
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I will NEVER buy another Samsung product, again. I will soon be leaving T-Mobile after over 9 YEARS as a customer.
Cool. Nothing wrong with that. Hope you find what you're looking for!
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I thought the whole purpose of a "forum" is "discussion". OK, so my perspective and experience seems to differ than most here, I recognize that. Some valid points were raised regarding my post, however, most were not (e.g. spam/ad). I probably should have posted over on the TMO forum and not here. I would like to state, I do like Android, the experience with BH2 is lacking in my opinion; I will probably buy the Nexus One when it comes to Verizon later this month.
Also, does everyone realize the title of this thread is "Behold 2 is a waste of time" right? I mean, that does not seem to imply a fan whomever started it.
OK, so you guys win. I will not participate in this whole forum of yours.
I thought the whole purpose of a "forum" is "discussion". OK, so my perspective and experience seems to differ than most here, I recognize that. Some valid points were raised regarding my post, however, most were not (e.g. spam/ad). I probably should have posted over on the TMO forum and not here. I would like to state, I do like Android, the experience with BH2 is lacking in my opinion; I will probably buy the Nexus One when it comes to Verizon later this month.
Also, does everyone realize the title of this thread is "Behold 2 is a waste of time" right? I mean, that does not seem to imply a fan whomever started it.
OK, so you guys win. I will not participate in this whole forum of yours.
All the best.
again, how is the experience lacking with the BH2??
Dude, just pick up your ball and go home.
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I thought the whole purpose of a "forum" is "discussion". OK, so my perspective and experience seems to differ than most here, I recognize that. Some valid points were raised regarding my post, however, most were not (e.g. spam/ad). I probably should have posted over on the TMO forum and not here. I would like to state, I do like Android, the experience with BH2 is lacking in my opinion; I will probably buy the Nexus One when it comes to Verizon later this month.
Also, does everyone realize the title of this thread is "Behold 2 is a waste of time" right? I mean, that does not seem to imply a fan whomever started it.
OK, so you guys win. I will not participate in this whole forum of yours.
I will probably buy the Nexus One when it comes to Verizon later this month.
Enjoy your N1, just make sure you don't put it in your pocket or you will break the screen. And I hope your 256 color screen with color banding looks as good as ours with 16+ million colors.
And I hope you don't mind not getting full service because HTC put the antennae in the wrong place, and your hand will probably block most signals.
But good luck, or maybe your phishing website will buy it from you.
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Not to Be a Troll, But I can't Disagree more with this thread..
Um? Maybe Somebody should have Pointed him to the Rooted Thread?
I for one have had the Following Phone's.
-MT3G
-G1
-Cliq
-Droid
-Behold 2
Hands Down the Best Phone I've had Regarding Android, Yeah it suck's there's no Custom Recovery for it.. But, at least we have Options for it now.
Enjoy your N1, just make sure you don't put it in your pocket or you will break the screen. And I hope your 256 color screen with color banding looks as good as ours with 16+ million colors.
And I hope you don't mind not getting full service because HTC put the antennae in the wrong place, and your hand will probably block most signals.
But good luck, or maybe your phishing website will buy it from you.
Enjoy your N1, just make sure you don't put it in your pocket or you will break the screen. And I hope your 256 color screen with color banding looks as good as ours with 16+ million colors.
And I hope you don't mind not getting full service because HTC put the antennae in the wrong place, and your hand will probably block most signals.
But good luck, or maybe your phishing website will buy it from you.
The Samsung Behold 2 for T-Mobile greatly improves on the first version of the phone by adding Android to the mix, providing for a powerful combination of hardware and sowftware. With Android, Samsung's custom TouchWiz UI, a 3.2-inch AMOLED Tou... Read More
Behold 2 is a waste of time.
